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(USA Today)   Want to lead a life of crime? Just become an FBI informant. Last year the FBI permitted informants to commit 5,600 crimes   (usatoday.com) divider line 43
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2013-08-04 09:47:26 AM
We all lead lives of crime. Most of us can't even count how many laws we already broke this morning, mostly because we probably didn't even know we were breaking them. There's just too much shiat on the books.

I'm less concerned about the activities the informants are performing and more concerned about what specific activities are considered illegal.  Sunshine is a great disinfectant. When non-violent illegal activities are made legal, they are drawn into the light and their negative aspects are more able to be managed.

Then you don't need to do this shades of gray type of law enforcement where we hold peoples mistakes above their heads, label them an informant, and force them to do the police's dirty work.
 
2013-08-04 10:03:41 AM
www.biography.com
No, go on!  Get out of here!
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2013-08-04 10:21:43 AM
thefilmstage.com

He was just raising money for a new baseball field, honest!
 
2013-08-04 10:38:11 AM
If it leads to a stronger case an a conviction of the intended target, I don't really care.

If it's the gunwalking thing, I have a BIG problem.

5,600 is just a number. If you actually do some work, McPaper, and find out how many of those crimes led to convictions then maybe we'll give a sh*t about your crappy reporting. Also, you need more pie charts. We LOVE pie charts!
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-08-04 12:50:17 PM
Generally informants are criminals.  Law abiding people usually don't have a lot of dirt on criminal organizations.
 
2013-08-04 01:43:27 PM

MBK: [thefilmstage.com image 378x195]

He was just raising money for a new baseball field, honest!


I believe in overtipping.  Hey!  That's my philosophy!

/came for My Blue Heaven
//leaving happy
///merengue
 
2013-08-04 01:54:31 PM

NewportBarGuy: 5,600 is just a number. If you actually do some work, McPaper, and find out how many of those crimes led to convictions then maybe we'll give a sh*t about your crappy reporting. Also, you need more pie charts. We LOVE pie charts!


The FBI does not track that information, and won't waste resources manually redacting 5600+ reports to make sure journalists don't get their hands on informants' names.
 
2013-08-04 01:54:41 PM
Like Avis, they're #2
Politics is still #1
USA USA USA
 
2013-08-04 01:58:30 PM

MBK: [thefilmstage.com image 378x195]

He was just raising money for a new baseball field, honest!


That is an underrated movie..

"How's the turtle Mrs. Stubbs? Did your kids ever figure out you switched turtles on them because I know it would be a major disappointment for them to find out."
 
2013-08-04 02:10:04 PM
and that would be different than my current job, how? 3 corporate rules, 3 federal laws broken, 3 sins committed each, and every, workday.
 
2013-08-04 02:14:50 PM
Well in this day and age nothing the FBI does surprises me.   If anything it just makes me wonder what the number of crimes FBI agents committed is....
 
2013-08-04 02:17:14 PM
Why think small?  If you really want to lead a life of crime, join the FBI.

/a 45 will blow a barn door out the back of your head and there's a lot of dry cleaning involved
 
2013-08-04 02:17:55 PM
Never forget that any law enforcement agency really only exists to fulfill quotas and satisfy politicians. That remains true whether it's some local podunk county sheriffs office or the FBI. Everything they do makes perfect sense as long as you don't get that false ideal in your head that they are interested on a personal level in being a positive force for the public.
 
2013-08-04 02:22:17 PM
FTFA: "The agency said in a 2007 budget request that it has a network of about 15,000 confidential sources. "

So about 1 in 3 informants are authorized to commit a crime?
 
2013-08-04 02:34:21 PM
Concrete shoes... cyanide... T.N.T....
 
2013-08-04 02:34:59 PM

NewportBarGuy: If it leads to a stronger case an a conviction of the intended target, I don't really care.


Exactly why I believe that beating the truth out of a suspect is okay.  If it leads to a stronger case and a conviction, why coddle the criminal?

/troll-trolling?  What's that?
 
2013-08-04 02:36:09 PM
We let the little fish go so we can catch the big fish later...
www.wilson-brothers.com

/oh so hot
 
2013-08-04 02:36:59 PM

netcentric: Well in this day and age nothing the FBI does surprises me.   If anything it just makes me wonder what the number of crimes FBI agents committed is....


Would that not make the FBI an accessory to the crime if they knew planning and allowed it to happen?
 
2013-08-04 02:44:10 PM
"A snitch in time saves nine."

-- FBI
 
2013-08-04 02:45:15 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-08-04 02:47:52 PM
What is the difference between a pregnant woman and a light bulb?
You can unscrew a lightbulb.
 
2013-08-04 02:55:34 PM

NewportBarGuy: If it leads to a stronger case an a conviction of the intended target, I don't really care.

If it's the gunwalking thing, I have a BIG problem.

5,600 is just a number. If you actually do some work, McPaper, and find out how many of those crimes led to convictions then maybe we'll give a sh*t about your crappy reporting. Also, you need more pie charts. We LOVE pie charts!


If it's a property crime and you're the victim, you'd care... especially if your loss was uninsured. If the FBI made any effort to make such victims whole after the case at hand is over, I see no suggestion of that in the article.
 
2013-08-04 02:57:04 PM

MythDragon: What is the difference between a pregnant woman and a light bulb?
You can unscrew a lightbulb.


Keep a shop-vac by the bed.
 
2013-08-04 03:12:37 PM
Todd. It's Italian for "Extra Special."

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-08-04 03:17:51 PM
Well an informant wouldn't be of much use if he refused to commit any crime, the criminals tend to look suspiciously on such behavior.
 
2013-08-04 03:17:54 PM
images.45cat.com
 
2013-08-04 03:24:33 PM
Keep in mind that this without Henry Hill or Whitey Bulger on the payroll anymore.

/Today everything is different
//There's no action anymore
//...Have to wait around like everyone else
 
2013-08-04 03:48:40 PM
at this very moment i'm actively committing almost 5000 intellectual property violations, so... getting a kick?

i've committed at least 3 other crimes today without even leaving my apartment.

and i'm not even helping anyone reign in organized crime.

so i'm not really seeing how tfa is worth caring about in any way.
 
2013-08-04 03:53:15 PM
mafiatoday.com

Hey, what's going on in here?
 
2013-08-04 04:07:24 PM
Bearing in mind those crimes might be as small as letting an informant smoke pot when they go to a drug buy sting..
 
2013-08-04 04:07:43 PM
This is what happens when you live by the motto "The ends justify the means."

The lines start blurring, the grey area starts becoming more and more larger until you find yourself in areas you previously wouldn't have considered.

The problem is then you are supposed to be cleaning the world when you yourself have dirty hands.

Politicized justice.


/analogy doesn't hold true. A lot of times your hands get dirty when you clean, but y'know what I'm trying to say
 
2013-08-04 04:11:46 PM

Popcorn Johnny: More of that "hope and change" that Obama promised.


You used to be fun, but you're really phoning it in lately.
 
2013-08-04 04:14:22 PM

Somaticasual: Bearing in mind those crimes might be as small as letting an informant smoke pot when they go to a drug buy sting..


Or actually buy drugs so they can arrest the dealer and follow it up the chain. Since the article says violent crimes aren't allowed I don't see the outrage.
 
2013-08-04 04:21:52 PM

Carth: Somaticasual: Bearing in mind those crimes might be as small as letting an informant smoke pot when they go to a drug buy sting..

Or actually buy drugs so they can arrest the dealer and follow it up the chain. Since the article says violent crimes aren't allowed I don't see the outrage.


Assuming that's true, or that unauthorized violations aren't tolerated. It seems to me that we too often after the fact find out years later that these grey area government programs deal with a lot fewer grey areas then we're led to believe at the time. Secrecy + power often leads to a lot of bad shiat.
 
2013-08-04 04:28:57 PM

Carth: Somaticasual: Bearing in mind those crimes might be as small as letting an informant smoke pot when they go to a drug buy sting..

Or actually buy drugs so they can arrest the dealer and follow it up the chain. Since the article says violent crimes aren't allowed I don't see the outrage.


Would you be outraged if an informant non-violently stole your car and you had to eat your insurance deductible (and likely face higher insurance rates in the future?)
 
2013-08-04 04:35:08 PM

Carth: Somaticasual: Bearing in mind those crimes might be as small as letting an informant smoke pot when they go to a drug buy sting..

Or actually buy drugs so they can arrest the dealer and follow it up the chain. Since the article says violent crimes aren't allowed I don't see the outrage.


Well the buying drugs is obviously part of the sting process. I'm talking about incidentally smoking pot or doing one of the drugs involved so the undercover cop won't look suspicious (and things like that). Hard to get outraged about that kind of stuff, but if the undercover is harming the community with their crime it would be a different story.
 
2013-08-04 05:08:02 PM

BitwiseShift: Todd. It's Italian for "Extra Special."

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 276x182]


Filmed in San Luis Obispo. I happened to be doing some late shopping when they were filming that scene. The crew seemed to really be enjoying themselves, but, I had to wait to get my Eskimo Pies. Bastards. (JK, everyone there seemed quit polite).
 
2013-08-04 05:08:48 PM

AndreMA: Carth: Somaticasual: Bearing in mind those crimes might be as small as letting an informant smoke pot when they go to a drug buy sting..

Or actually buy drugs so they can arrest the dealer and follow it up the chain. Since the article says violent crimes aren't allowed I don't see the outrage.

Would you be outraged if an informant non-violently stole your car and you had to eat your insurance deductible (and likely face higher insurance rates in the future?)


No more so than if a run of the mill criminal stole my car. And if my stolen car helped bring down a crime ring preventing other cars from being stolen I"d be all for it. That is why I have insurance.

mongbiohazard: Secrecy + power often leads to a lot of bad shiat.


I agree. I just don't see a way they could effectively do their jobs if they weren't allowed do commit certain crimes. You'd run into the "hey this guy might be an informant lets see if he'll do drugs or not" and kill anyone who won't.
 
2013-08-04 05:34:26 PM
There's a gentleman that's goin' round
Turning the joint upside down
STOOL PIGEON
Ha-ha-ha-ha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-NGlOB4hJA
 
2013-08-04 05:38:54 PM
You can thank the War on Terror for most of this.

si.wsj.net
 
2013-08-04 05:56:07 PM

AndreMA: Carth: Somaticasual: Bearing in mind those crimes might be as small as letting an informant smoke pot when they go to a drug buy sting..

Or actually buy drugs so they can arrest the dealer and follow it up the chain. Since the article says violent crimes aren't allowed I don't see the outrage.

Would you be outraged if an informant non-violently stole your car and you had to eat your insurance deductible (and likely face higher insurance rates in the future?)




Waahhhhh!

Get a car you can afford.
 
2013-08-05 09:54:03 AM
Rule number 1: Don't blow your cover.

Rule number 2: The cops are not your friends.

Just ask Rachel Hoffman. She got busted with an ounce of weed so cops asked her to buy 1,500 e-pills, crack and a gun.  They also "lost track of her" and she was shot 5 times and left in a ditch to die.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=4844484&page=1

// Should have taken the weed charge
 
2013-08-05 02:34:06 PM
I *KNEW* all those Smash-N-Grab robberies in town were secretly the FBI investigating the Sikh Al-Qaeda.  There is literally no other explanation for it!
 
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