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2013-08-04 07:50:24 AM
 Might stop some small arms fire, but bet you can't dig a fox hole with it.
 
2013-08-04 07:51:26 AM
Nobody ever listens to General Veers' uniform ideas.

images4.wikia.nocookie.net

I wouldn't know why.
 
2013-08-04 08:23:12 AM
"Urgent requirement" and "2009." Yup , this is the government I work for.
 
2013-08-04 08:54:10 AM
blog.syracuse.com
Keep firing, assholes!
 
2013-08-04 09:09:32 AM
So wait, it's basically an ACH painted in Marine Corps Drab?

BRILLIANT!
 
2013-08-04 09:49:03 AM

hardinparamedic: So wait, it's basically an ACH painted in Marine Corps Drab?

BRILLIANT!


I'm assuming they have some kind of new material to improve the armor. New synthetic sh*t or something. They've gotten pretty good at that over the years. I think MIT has been doing a lot of R&D on new types of anti-ballistic material.

My main problem is that they trimmed the helmet. Sure, it provides better field of view, but you're exposing a lot more of the head compared to the old K-Pot, especially the ears! Like a lot of things, I assume they stole the ideas from Special Forces who have an entirely different role and would use something like that because of all the CQB they undertake.

It is suitable for MOUT, but I really don't like slimming down something that should provide the maximum amount of protection. I dunno, maybe just me. Something drilled into me when we were taught to move under fire by digging our Pot into the dirt and crawling forward.

Hell, maybe we've seen the end of large military movements and it'll all be mostly urban fighting. The one thing about the ACH is that it was actually comfortable. I'll give them that. That padding was awesome and entirely customizable.
 
2013-08-04 10:48:06 AM
Either that mans ears are huge or the helmet seems to be riding a big high on his head.
 
2013-08-04 11:00:48 AM
Are you rated to repair that helmet, Private Rico?
 
2013-08-04 11:08:57 AM

NewportBarGuy: My main problem is that they trimmed the helmet. Sure, it provides better field of view, but you're exposing a lot more of the head compared to the old K-Pot, especially the ears!


Well, the old PASGT helmet was causing a lot of neck problems because of it's size, so you get some trade-offs.
 
2013-08-04 11:12:55 AM

way south: Either that mans ears are huge or the helmet seems to be riding a big high on his head.


Ditto.
 
2013-08-04 11:16:06 AM
i236.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-04 11:37:09 AM

edmo: "Urgent requirement" and "2009." Yup , this is the government I work for.


Trying to make a one size fits all solution for  3 branches of the military maybe a little more complicated than it initially looks.
 
2013-08-04 11:44:44 AM

Click Click D'oh: Well, the old PASGT helmet was causing a lot of neck problems because of it's size, so you get some trade-offs.


True. I remember the joy of taking that thing off and whipping it into a corner. Heavy f*cker. Those leather head guards got nasty real quick.
 
2013-08-04 11:45:20 AM
To my untrained eyes, it looks about the same as the old ones.
 
2013-08-04 11:46:06 AM
Hopefully none of the "selected small-arms ammunition and fragmentation" is ever fired at their face, ears, or back of head.
 
2013-08-04 11:48:02 AM

NewportBarGuy: My main problem is that they trimmed the helmet. Sure, it provides better field of view, but you're exposing a lot more of the head compared to the old K-Pot, especially the ears! Like a lot of things, I assume they stole the ideas from Special Forces who have an entirely different role and would use something like that because of all the CQB they undertake.


It could also have something to do with the recent research on how the old helmets collect and focus IED shockwaves right into the brain.
 
2013-08-04 11:54:52 AM
ultra-high molecular-weight polyethylene materials,

All right, something is getting garbled like a motherfarker in the transcription, because this would mean basically nothing as far as the efficacy of the helmet is concerned, and LDPE frequently has a weight of like infinity to begin with.
 
2013-08-04 12:03:08 PM

Theaetetus: It could also have something to do with the recent research on how the old helmets collect and focus IED shockwaves right into the brain.


Seriously? Wow, I didn't think of that. I guess below the ear would create a larger chamber for the wave to impact. Not only causing TBI, but also ear damage.

With the IED here to stay, I guess that's a solid approach.
 
2013-08-04 12:12:22 PM

NewportBarGuy: Click Click D'oh: Well, the old PASGT helmet was causing a lot of neck problems because of it's size, so you get some trade-offs.

True. I remember the joy of taking that thing off and whipping it into a corner. Heavy f*cker. Those leather head guards got nasty real quick.


Kevlar headaches were a stone biatch.
 
2013-08-04 12:20:20 PM

MFAWG: edmo: "Urgent requirement" and "2009." Yup , this is the government I work for.

Trying to make a one size fits all solution for  3 branches of the military maybe a little more complicated than it initially looks.


Especially for the Navy, what with all that ship to ship handgun fire they go through all the time.
 
2013-08-04 12:28:48 PM
localtvwtkr.files.wordpress.com
Amazing, looks exactly like haircut
 
2013-08-04 12:32:08 PM

NewportBarGuy: Theaetetus: It could also have something to do with the recent research on how the old helmets collect and focus IED shockwaves right into the brain.

Seriously? Wow, I didn't think of that.


No? Wait a second... Have you been wearing one of those old helmets?! Get to an MRI machine, stat!

/teehee
 
2013-08-04 12:40:49 PM

MFAWG: edmo: "Urgent requirement" and "2009." Yup , this is the government I work for.

Trying to make a one size fits all solution for  3 branches of the military maybe a little more complicated than it initially looks.


It's also silly to try.

Army and Marines having the same helmets, fine. They fill similar roles as infantry units. But when you have guys miles away in a boat, they don't need the same kind of helmet. They could wear speedos and tan butter for all the good a helmet is gonna do them if a naval weapon happens to impact where they're standing.
 
2013-08-04 12:41:01 PM

Theaetetus: No? Wait a second... Have you been wearing one of those old helmets?! Get to an MRI machine, stat!

/teehee


I'd hate you if I wasn't laughing. Ass! heh...
 
2013-08-04 12:54:41 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Hopefully none of the "selected small-arms ammunition and fragmentation" is ever fired at their face, ears, or back of head.


You know, stormtroopers couldn't shoot for shiat with their full face, ears and back of head protection.
 
2013-08-04 12:55:37 PM

doglover: MFAWG: edmo: "Urgent requirement" and "2009." Yup , this is the government I work for.

Trying to make a one size fits all solution for  3 branches of the military maybe a little more complicated than it initially looks.

It's also silly to try.

Army and Marines having the same helmets, fine. They fill similar roles as infantry units. But when you have guys miles away in a boat, they don't need the same kind of helmet. They could wear speedos and tan butter for all the good a helmet is gonna do them if a naval weapon happens to impact where they're standing.


what about after broadsides are fired and you have to swing over to the enemy ship and sword fight?! didn't think of that did you?!
 
2013-08-04 01:00:34 PM

doglover: MFAWG: edmo: "Urgent requirement" and "2009." Yup , this is the government I work for.

Trying to make a one size fits all solution for  3 branches of the military maybe a little more complicated than it initially looks.

It's also silly to try.

Army and Marines having the same helmets, fine. They fill similar roles as infantry units. But when you have guys miles away in a boat, they don't need the same kind of helmet. They could wear speedos and tan butter for all the good a helmet is gonna do them if a naval weapon happens to impact where they're standing.



This helmet is for the US Marines only. The US Army may decide to use it as well but it's more likely they will see how good the helmet is then spend another few $millions to make their own version of its which will be made in the district/contributor of a different senator.
 
2013-08-04 01:07:21 PM
Anybody remember how freaking awkward it was to fire from the prone position with the old PASGT? The extended back portion would suddenly push forward into your eye line farking up your aim forcing you to try to til the mother up to clear your eye sight only for it to slip right back down. the MICH was a godsend in that department.
 
2013-08-04 01:12:25 PM
Helmet sucks if you need someone else to put it on you.
 
2013-08-04 01:17:52 PM

doglover: MFAWG: edmo: "Urgent requirement" and "2009." Yup , this is the government I work for.

Trying to make a one size fits all solution for  3 branches of the military maybe a little more complicated than it initially looks.

It's also silly to try.

Army and Marines having the same helmets, fine. They fill similar roles as infantry units. But when you have guys miles away in a boat, they don't need the same kind of helmet. They could wear speedos and tan butter for all the good a helmet is gonna do them if a naval weapon happens to impact where they're standing.


What about hospital corpsmen? The Navy would presumably have an interest in the continued survival of those personnel who are currently assigned to Marine units.
 
2013-08-04 01:53:43 PM
It looks just like the current helmets and past helmets.  Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 
2013-08-04 01:59:46 PM

NewportBarGuy: hardinparamedic: So wait, it's basically an ACH painted in Marine Corps Drab?

BRILLIANT!

I'm assuming they have some kind of new material to improve the armor. New synthetic sh*t or something. They've gotten pretty good at that over the years. I think MIT has been doing a lot of R&D on new types of anti-ballistic material.

My main problem is that they trimmed the helmet. Sure, it provides better field of view, but you're exposing a lot more of the head compared to the old K-Pot, especially the ears! Like a lot of things, I assume they stole the ideas from Special Forces who have an entirely different role and would use something like that because of all the CQB they undertake.

It is suitable for MOUT, but I really don't like slimming down something that should provide the maximum amount of protection. I dunno, maybe just me. Something drilled into me when we were taught to move under fire by digging our Pot into the dirt and crawling forward.

Hell, maybe we've seen the end of large military movements and it'll all be mostly urban fighting. The one thing about the ACH is that it was actually comfortable. I'll give them that. That padding was awesome and entirely customizable.


It's pretty common to wear a large earmuff-style headset called a VIC system while inside a vehicle in today's military. Gear changes as warfighting changes. The new helmet designs have nothing to do with imitating SF. Wearing VIC headsets is much easier with an ACH than with the old kelvar.
 
2013-08-04 02:21:23 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Hopefully none of the "selected small-arms ammunition and fragmentation" is ever fired at their face, ears, or back of head.


Even with the older helmets, if a bullet hits it directly there was a good chance it would either penetrate anyway or the helmet will shatter.  Most of these helmets are only good for saving your brain box from a glancing hit, where they're engineered to deflect a bullet instead of absorbing the full impact.
 
2013-08-04 02:34:58 PM

MurphyMurphy: Nobody ever listens to General Veers' uniform ideas.



I wouldn't know why.


He's not that great at choosing drinking glasses, either.

//just now noticed that BTW
 
2013-08-04 04:06:22 PM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Hopefully none of the "selected small-arms ammunition and fragmentation" is ever fired at their face, ears, or back of head.

You know, stormtroopers couldn't shoot for shiat with their full face, ears and back of head protection.


It's not like they provided any protection, anyway. They were very vulnerable to blaster fire and rocks hurled by teddy bears
 
2013-08-04 04:52:08 PM
German Army helmets.
Interesting.

/Gott Mit Uns!
 
2013-08-04 05:03:39 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: German Army helmets.
Interesting.

/Gott Mit Uns!


It is an interesting parallel.

lh3.ggpht.com
 
2013-08-04 06:16:10 PM
My little army man has a helmet... IN MY PANTS!
 
2013-08-04 06:36:07 PM

AngryDragon: HotIgneous Intruder: German Army helmets.
Interesting.

/Gott Mit Uns!

It is an interesting parallel.

[lh3.ggpht.com image 550x516]




farkers knew what they were doing.

Now, where are the halos?
images.dakkadakka.com
 
2013-08-04 07:19:23 PM

AngryDragon: HotIgneous Intruder: German Army helmets.
Interesting.

/Gott Mit Uns!

It is an interesting parallel.

[lh3.ggpht.com image 550x516]


It's almost as if they were designed to fit on the same species.
 
2013-08-04 07:21:53 PM

StoPPeRmobile: AngryDragon: HotIgneous Intruder: German Army helmets.
Interesting.

/Gott Mit Uns!

It is an interesting parallel.

[lh3.ggpht.com image 550x516]

farkers knew what they were doing.


Germans: great at making hats, terrible at winning wars.
 
2013-08-04 08:04:37 PM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: StoPPeRmobile: AngryDragon: HotIgneous Intruder: German Army helmets.
Interesting.

/Gott Mit Uns!

It is an interesting parallel.

[lh3.ggpht.com image 550x516]

farkers knew what they were doing.

Germans: great at making hats, terrible at winning wars.




Good thing America had it's genocide years before.
 
2013-08-04 08:06:07 PM

SuperT: what about after broadsides are fired and you have to swing over to the enemy ship and sword fight?! didn't think of that did you?!


You're gonna sit there and tell me with a straight face you wouldn't give a nut to be the guy broadcast on an international news camera winning a sword fight in a speedo?
 
2013-08-04 08:15:45 PM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: StoPPeRmobile: AngryDragon: HotIgneous Intruder: German Army helmets.
Interesting.

/Gott Mit Uns!

It is an interesting parallel.

[lh3.ggpht.com image 550x516]

farkers knew what they were doing.

Germans: great at making hats, terrible at winning wars.


Not that I disagree, but they did manage to hold off most of the world for the better part of a decade.

/But it turned out the idiot who got the war going was an idiot right on through to the end.
/Shouldn't take away from the fact that they were the most powerful army the world had ever seen.
/Everyone copied them.
 
2013-08-04 09:44:29 PM

doglover: SuperT: what about after broadsides are fired and you have to swing over to the enemy ship and sword fight?! didn't think of that did you?!

You're gonna sit there and tell me with a straight face you wouldn't give a nut to be the guy broadcast on an international news camera winning a sword fight in a speedo?


They don't broadcast gay porn.
/Face is, by definition, straight.
 
2013-08-04 10:04:37 PM

One Bad Apple: AngryDragon: HotIgneous Intruder: German Army helmets.
Interesting.

/Gott Mit Uns!

It is an interesting parallel.

[lh3.ggpht.com image 550x516]

It's almost as if they were designed to fit on the same species.


The predecessor to the PASGT helmet was the M1 helmet worn by the Air Force, Army, Coast Guard, Marines, and Navy from 1941 to 1985. Before that was the M1917 helmet (the "Brodie Helmet") used by all US services between 1917 and well into WWII. The US military has almost always had a common helmet for all services, with variations on the basic design of course.
 
2013-08-04 10:34:14 PM

AmericanEagle:


The predecessor to the PASGT helmet was the M1 helmet worn by the Air Force, Army, Coast Guard, Marines, and Navy from 1941 to 1985. Before that was the M1917 helmet (the "Brodie Helmet") used by all US services between 1917 and well into WWII. The US military has almost always had a common helmet for all services, with variations on the basic design of course.


As late as the mid 90's the navy still used the Vietnam era steel pots with fiberglass liners for damage control/battle stations.
 
2013-08-04 11:54:36 PM
This story brought to you by the year 1982.
 
2013-08-05 08:29:39 AM
It IS the german army helmet, theres a reason why they used it
 
2013-08-05 08:40:10 AM

LewDux: Amazing, looks exactly like haircut


When did the Marines start working with cross dressers?

/it's a man, baby
 
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