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(BBC America)   Who will be the Twelfth Doctor? Exactly. More importantly, will The Doctor stay in Cleveland, or play for Miami next season? The Twelfth Doctor is revealed in Doctor Who: The Decision, live at 2 PM Eastern on BBC America   (bbcamerica.com) divider line 414
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2013-08-04 07:22:25 PM  

Anderson's Pooper: Rueened: NeoCortex42: drewogatory: rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: TheManofPA: rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: They need to release the complete Dr. Who on DVD.  As complete as possible at least.  Kind of like what they did with Dark Shadows recently.

This. Holy shiat that would be expensive though.

And would sell probably pretty well.

I'd buy the shiat out of it no matter how much it was (almost)

The Dark Shadows set lists for $600, I can imagine a Dr. Who set hitting 4 figures.

I have a buddy who built a custom Tardis external hd enclosure that houses every episode available on the net. Lights up, makes the noises etc. Geeks me out every time I see it.

How much space does the whole series take up?

Much less than you would think :)

It says 4 TB on the outside but actually holds 20 TB


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2013-08-04 07:24:28 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: She also told her dad when he jokingly suggested there could be two of him, "Now that would be a whole different kind of birthday."


You're mistaken. She implies that's already happened:

Rory: I've come from the Doctor too.
River Song: Yes, but at a different point in time.
Rory: Unless there's two of them.
River Song: No, that's a whole different birthday.
 
2013-08-04 07:30:24 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: HopScotchNSoda: She also told her dad when he jokingly suggested there could be two of him, "Now that would be a whole different kind of birthday."

You're mistaken. She implies that's already happened:
Rory: I've come from the Doctor too.
River Song: Yes, but at a different point in time.
Rory: Unless there's two of them.
River Song: No, that's a whole different birthday.


Good catch.

So, if you are the Eleventh Doctor and it's two of you and River, then it's not really gay if you touch the other one of yourself; I mean, it's basically like having an out-of-body masturbation experience.  But what about if there's been a regeneration between the two of yourself?
 
2013-08-04 07:34:09 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: 100 Watt Walrus: HopScotchNSoda: She also told her dad when he jokingly suggested there could be two of him, "Now that would be a whole different kind of birthday."

You're mistaken. She implies that's already happened:
Rory: I've come from the Doctor too.
River Song: Yes, but at a different point in time.
Rory: Unless there's two of them.
River Song: No, that's a whole different birthday.

Good catch.

So, if you are the Eleventh Doctor and it's two of you and River, then it's not really gay if you touch the other one of yourself; I mean, it's basically like having an out-of-body masturbation experience.  But what about if there's been a regeneration between the two of yourself?


You would have a threesome by yourself
 
2013-08-04 07:38:59 PM  
What happens to waste material in the TARDIS?  I don't mean just what the Doctor and his companions leave in the toilet or litter box, or whatever form the excretorium takes, but also the food waste from the kitchen, Adric's used Kleenexes [Kleenicies?], the waste water from the washing machine, and so-forth? Does it get ejected into oblivion? Metabolised by the TARDIS? Held in a tank and ejected at a convenient space-time?
 
2013-08-04 07:41:11 PM  

Piizzadude: So, if you are the Eleventh Doctor and it's two of you and River, then it's not really gay if you touch the other one of yourself; I mean, it's basically like having an out-of-body masturbation experience.  But what about if there's been a regeneration between the two of yourself?

You would have a threesome by yourself


No, what I mean is what if there has been a regeneration between the you that's you, and the other you? Like you are the Eleventh Doctor, and it's you, River, and the Twelfth Doctor.
 
2013-08-04 07:42:18 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: Moffat's recent comments that the River Song story is essentially complete worries me, in that it suggests that we'll never see what happened between her becoming baby Mels in NYC in January 1970 and her becoming her parents' childhood friend in the late 1990s.

Presumably, she went to NY for a reason, possibly because she knew her sixty-something-year-old parents were there (maybe adult River had told her that off-camera in Florida), or maybe just because it is a major air and shipping port from which it would be relatively easy to stow away to England. Did she meet up with Amy & Rory and let them rear her for a few years?  If so, how did they meet up in a city of 8 million (particularly since Rory having a little garden suggests that they lived in one of the outlying boroughs instead of Manhattan where she regenerated)?  Did adult River take her ahead in time via her vortex manipulator? Or did she cross the Atlantic, sneak into UNIT HQ, and take the TARDIS ahead, since the TARDIS knows who she is implied to feel somewhat maternal toward her? Maybe it was she who fixed the TARDIS for the Third Doctor, without him realising it.  Does Anthony know about her?


If nothing else, unless Moffat's lying, it shows that for all the fun he has with characters' timelines, deep down he doesn't know what the fark he's doing and doesn't care if it makes sense.

River has made it clear on at least one occasion that she's encountered many, if not all, of his incarnations. From "The Time of Angels":

<blockquote>
RIVER: So you don't know who I am yet? 
DOCTOR: How do you know who I am? I don't always look the same. 
RIVER: I've got pictures of all your faces. You never show up in the right order, though. I need the spotter's guide.
</blockquote>

So for her story to be done is pretty much wrong right there.

But furthermore, Moffat needs to account for everything you mention above, especially...

- How child Melody got to 1969 Florida
- How child Melody got from Florida to New York when already injured
- What happened to regenerated Melody between 1969 New York and 1990s Leadworth
- What happened to River (other than college) between the end of "Let's Kill Hitler" and being taken by Madam Kevorkian and placed in the space suit at the bottom of Lake Silencio

BTW, Mels was a terrible, incongruous, and very sloppy character, and the fact that Amy and Rory make no effort to recover their baby after Demon's Run is an unforgivably huge emotional plot hole.
 
2013-08-04 07:44:33 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: If nothing else, unless Moffat's lying, it shows that for all the fun he has with characters' timelines, deep down he doesn't know what the fark he's doing and doesn't care if it makes sense.


He's basically said as much in interviews for DWM.  He says things like "the great thing about the show is you can't make mistakes!"
 
2013-08-04 07:46:53 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: Piizzadude: So, if you are the Eleventh Doctor and it's two of you and River, then it's not really gay if you touch the other one of yourself; I mean, it's basically like having an out-of-body masturbation experience.  But what about if there's been a regeneration between the two of yourself?

You would have a threesome by yourself

No, what I mean is what if there has been a regeneration between the you that's you, and the other you? Like you are the Eleventh Doctor, and it's you, River, and the Twelfth Doctor.


Here's the especially weird and kinky part of that: Whichever Doctor was the elder in that threesome knew going in every detail of what was about to happen.

Although given the nature of the characters involved, I imagine what"really" happened was that she was visited on her the same birthday by two version of the Doctor at different times. She was twice boinked, but not as the meat in a Doctor sandwich.
 
2013-08-04 07:55:16 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: 100 Watt Walrus: If nothing else, unless Moffat's lying, it shows that for all the fun he has with characters' timelines, deep down he doesn't know what the fark he's doing and doesn't care if it makes sense.

He's basically said as much in interviews for DWM.  He says things like "the great thing about the show is you can't make mistakes!"


100wattwalrus.com
 
2013-08-04 07:58:36 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: whizbangthedirtfarmer: 100 Watt Walrus: If nothing else, unless Moffat's lying, it shows that for all the fun he has with characters' timelines, deep down he doesn't know what the fark he's doing and doesn't care if it makes sense.

He's basically said as much in interviews for DWM.  He says things like "the great thing about the show is you can't make mistakes!"

[100wattwalrus.com image 400x250]


WTF did Fark do to my animated GIF? Hang on...
 
2013-08-04 07:58:55 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: BTW, Mels was a terrible, incongruous, and very sloppy character, and the fact that Amy and Rory make no effort to recover their baby after Demon's Run is an unforgivably huge emotional plot hole.



She was also a character who, had it been an American show, would have generated screams of "Oh, noes! Racism!"

White Melody was a scared, innocent kid and yet resourceful enough to make her way from the greater Cocoa Beach area* to New York.  Adult white River, once she recovered from her regeneration and saving the Doctor's life, was a studious scholar, who although a bit rogue was loyal, brave, responsible, and otherwise someone whom you'd be glad to have on your side.  Black Mels, however, was a delinquent, a car thief, a bus thief, an armed hijacker, an obnoxious disruptive influence at school, and well on her way to a life in HM prisons instead of Stormcage.

*Heyyyyy, maybe Jeanie Nelson transported her with a snap of her head and a blink of her eyes.
 
2013-08-04 08:00:08 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: WTF did Fark do to my animated GIF? Hang on...


Oh, I guess it's just my browser. Carry on.
 
2013-08-04 08:01:10 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Mad_Radhu: HopScotchNSoda: Moffat's recent comments that the River Song story is essentially complete worries me, in that it suggests that we'll never see what happened between her becoming baby Mels in NYC in January 1970 and her becoming her parents' childhood friend in the late 1990s.

Didn't he also recently admit to "lying his arse off for months" about the 50th special? Someone along the line during the NYC filming for "The Angels Take Manhattan" Karen Gillan shot a scene in old age makeup based on her twitter comments at the time (which were a year after The Girl Who Waited" was filmed). I'm betting that at some point we wind up seeing an aged Amy Pond in the last two Matt Smith stories to tie up that plot point. There Ponds being in NYC at the same time young River was there is just too convenient for it not to pay off at some point.

I can only hope the "Amy Pond Story" is contained to Smith's Doctor, much as Rose was a Tennant Doctor thing.

Of course, the new Doctor would probably call her a farking wanker for waiting, so I can deal with that.


But Rose wasn't contained to Tennant's Doctor. Hell, the first episode of Nu-Who is named after her.
 
2013-08-04 08:07:42 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: 100 Watt Walrus: whizbangthedirtfarmer: 100 Watt Walrus: If nothing else, unless Moffat's lying, it shows that for all the fun he has with characters' timelines, deep down he doesn't know what the fark he's doing and doesn't care if it makes sense.

He's basically said as much in interviews for DWM.  He says things like "the great thing about the show is you can't make mistakes!"

[100wattwalrus.com image 400x250]

WTF did Fark do to my animated GIF? Hang on...


its gone, let it go
 
2013-08-04 08:08:56 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: Although given the nature of the characters involved, I imagine what"really" happened was that she was visited on her the same birthday by two version of the Doctor at different times. She was twice boinked, but not as the meat in a Doctor sandwich.


On the other hand, maybe there was an unseen scene within "Last Night" (like how "Time Crash" took place within what had appeared to be the final seconds of "Last of the Time Lords"), in which the two of them had a five-way.

Although I earlier said that the Doctor would have been embarrassed about possibly being discovered by Amy & Rory,

it occurs to me that River might well have actually wanted it to get weird that way. I can definitely imagine her trying to line up something with her then-best mates, sometime between when she stole the bus and got her parents together, and when she stole the car and hijacked the TARDIS.
 
2013-08-04 08:17:47 PM  

Hebalo: mafiageek1980: whizbangthedirtfarmer: You can tell the hipster fans from the actual fans. On Facebook a lot of the hipsters are saying things like "ew a grandpa doctor!!!" Meanwhile most of the real fans are exuberant.

\still no cure for Moffat

^This

That.


I love what Moffat has done.  Infinitely better than RTD.

/not sarcasm
 
2013-08-04 08:18:07 PM  
Matt Smith is going away! There is no way the new Doctor will ever be as bad as Smith. I'll be able to start watching the series again.
 
2013-08-04 08:23:16 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: 100 Watt Walrus: If nothing else, unless Moffat's lying, it shows that for all the fun he has with characters' timelines, deep down he doesn't know what the fark he's doing and doesn't care if it makes sense.

He's basically said as much in interviews for DWM.  He says things like "the great thing about the show is you can't make mistakes!"


If he actually planned things out in advance, then Mels and Brian would have been at the wedding at the head table, and Mels would have been Amy's maid of honour since she was her best mate. OK, maybe he would still have had to keep Mels away so that she wouldn't try to kill the Doctor right then and there, or maybe not; maybe she wouldn't have had the poison lipstick then because the Doctor didn't exist when she was getting dressed that morning and only returned to this universe when Amy remembered him after getting the diary. He also wouldn't have killed off Strax in AGMGTW, only to have to create that awkward mini-episode to recon him back to life.

Sure, he'll pull stuff from the old and non-canonical past, like Prof. Candy, Kate Stewart, the etymology of the word doctor having been from  the Doctor, et cet. but he does less multi-season planning than even  Battlestar Galactica or Lost had.
 
2013-08-04 08:31:10 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: What happened to River (other than college) between the end of "Let's Kill Hitler" and being taken by Madam Kevorkian and placed in the space suit at the bottom of Lake Silencio


I suspect that, even if Prof. Candy wasn't a member of the Silence (the movement, not the Edvard Munch  Scream-looking creatures), he was likely in league with them.  His views on the Doctor - as Moffat wrote in "Continuity Errors" long ago - are basically the same as theirs.  As her graduate advisor, he was merely another step in her preparation, training, and indoctrination.
 
2013-08-04 08:56:26 PM  

diaphoresis: Matt Smith is going away! There is no way the new Doctor will ever be as bad as Smith. I'll be able to start watching the series again.


I feel sorry for you.
 
2013-08-04 09:01:20 PM  

cduke23: The All-Powerful Atheismo: George Zimmerman, the Springfield Isotopes

Um, it's the Albuquerque Isotopes


For *I* am the MAYOR of  ALBUQUERQUE!!!
 
2013-08-04 09:08:23 PM  

bborchar: Hebalo: mafiageek1980: whizbangthedirtfarmer: You can tell the hipster fans from the actual fans. On Facebook a lot of the hipsters are saying things like "ew a grandpa doctor!!!" Meanwhile most of the real fans are exuberant.

\still no cure for Moffat

^This

That.

I love what Moffat has done.  Infinitely better than RTD.

/not sarcasm


I love what Moffat has done for the complexity of the narrative. I love his embracing of the wibbly-wobbly, and I like the increased complexity of the characters.

But he's gone off the rails. Series 7b was lifeless and disjointed. Even the Neil Gaiman episode stunk. Clara went from fascinating, sexy enigma to a bland everygirl whose personality changed with every script, and there was very little through-line for her arc. And, as noted above, it's just become clear that he doesn't give a damn if his stories make sense. Worse, in the last year or so, he's relinquished the complexity he brought to the series in favor of his stupid every-episode-as-a-movie-poster concept of plotting.

But I hope he will change direction once again with the 12th Doctor. I'll give him this: He's very good at changing tone and trajectory. I hope he and Capaldi return the show to the level of Series 5 (minus "Victory of the Daleks" and forgiving the ruining of the Angels) and Series 6 (forgiving the colossal, idiotic plot holes in "The Impossible Astronaut"/"Day of the Moon").
 
2013-08-04 09:26:55 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: so who else are they going to recycle from  fire of pompeii....


Well, not a person, but they keep re-using Temple Hall and other parts of Cardiff's Temple of Peace, both before and since that episode. Virtually all of "End of the World" was in there. So were the Face of Boe's scenes in "Gridlock", and the big Silurian meeting room in "Cold Blood". It was the restaurant in "Let's Kill Hitler" while one of the smaller rooms with the same parquet floor was Hitler's office and its exterior was the Reichstag exterior where the Williamses steal motorcycles from the SS. Most recently, it was in "Nightmare in Silver". The exterior has also been used numerous other DW & TW episodes.

The Coal Exchange may be in more episodes than the Temple of Peace, but at least its rooms are varied enough that it's not as obvious.
 
2013-08-04 09:33:41 PM  
At least it didn't turn out to be Rupert Grint or Jedward.

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2013-08-04 09:41:45 PM  

James72: Mike Chewbacca: bionicjoe: SithLord: [24.media.tumblr.com image 310x225]

THIS

I'd give Dr. Who a chance, but I watched a few episodes of the 70s version on PBS when I was a kid. It looked & still looks cheaply made.
Also now that it's some kind of 'geek cred' thing I'm passing. Tired of the popular geek thing.

I hear ya. When Battlestar Galactica first aired in the 70s, it was cheaply made. So when SciFi made a new BSG, I didn't watch that because the one from 25 years earlier sucked.

If you didn't already have TF, I'd have sponsored you because of that comment


Cheers, mate! bionicjoe's comment was just ridiculous. "I tried watching that old Lord of the Rings cartoon but it was crap, so I didn't bother watching Peter Jackson's LotR series." "I tried steak in the 70s but it was overcooked so when I had a chance to eat some steak in 2006, I said no thanks."
 
2013-08-04 10:32:45 PM  

Surool: 100 Watt Walrus: People spend so much wasted energy on this non-issue.

The Doctor said he had unlimited regenerations when Matt Smith appeared in the Sarah Jane Adventures.


The Doctor lies.

ts1.mm.bing.net
 
2013-08-04 11:07:57 PM  

Surool: 100 Watt Walrus: People spend so much wasted energy on this non-issue.

The Doctor said he had unlimited507 regenerations when Matt Smith appeared in the Sarah Jane Adventures.


FTFY.

/I suppose that's close enough


CL: Can you change color? or are you always white?
DW: No, I can be anything.
DW: [is always a white guy]
 
2013-08-04 11:08:47 PM  
Don't know the announced actor, and really didn't care for Matt Smith or Eccelston that much, but Tennant is my favorite since the Baker through Davidson era. Know that's not really that popular of an opinion, I just feel Tennant handled the character better than anyone had in years.
 
2013-08-04 11:19:37 PM  
I don't think history will look all that favorably on the Smith run as the Doctor.  For the life of me, I can't figure out what went wrong.  Smith is okay.  Moffat is okay.  Smith and Moffat together...aren't okay.  Not a terribly bad run.  Just a weak run.
 
2013-08-04 11:22:07 PM  

CarrieWhite: Strange they'd use Peter Capaldi  after him being in Torchwood.


They used Colin Baker after he played a prominent role in a 5th Doctor story as a completely unrelated character.

Hell, they used Lalla Ward after she played a prominent role; Romana explained it on-screen as "she liked the body" so much that she regenerated into it.

Capaldi was not only on Torchwood, he was back in explody-volcano-day episode with Tennant's 10th... and with Karen Gillan who later got cast as Amy Pond.

Reusing actors is not a big deal.
 
2013-08-04 11:42:51 PM  

gadian: I don't think history will look all that favorably on the Smith run as the Doctor.  For the life of me, I can't figure out what went wrong.


popcorninmyteeth.files.wordpress.com


/just saying... If nothing else, everyone can agree that 7a was ill advised and beating a dead horse.
//IMO, the jury is still out on Moffat. If the upcoming season turns into yet another year all about the new mostest specialest girl in all the universe, it's time for a showrunner.
 
2013-08-04 11:44:03 PM  

sirbissel: I'd really like #12 to show up in the 50th... just because I think it'd be interesting to see a multi-Doctor story with a future Doctor.


Agreed. It would be different, nigh heretical, but it's an aspect of The Doctor that would be nice to see even once.
 
2013-08-04 11:53:39 PM  

diaphoresis: Matt Smith is going away! There is no way the new Doctor will ever be as bad as Smith. I'll be able to start watching the series again.


Now that's just trolling Fate.
 
2013-08-05 12:38:00 AM  
First of all, regarding River Song's story, if any of you are really interested in 'what happened between such-and-such times' then you should check this out:  http://kickass.to/doctor-who-fan-edit-the-river-song-chronology-t7193 9 91.html

It's a fan edit that present River's story in HER chronological order, with some handy captions that help explain the way thing went. It's actually pretty handy if you have time and the interest in the character to watch all of it.

Second, add me to those who consider Seven and Ace to be an awesome duo who were unfortunately saddled with a few bad scripts. Ace is my favorite companion. She's just the right combination of post-punk, tomboy, and sexy bisexual Brit armed with explosives. I also think it's pretty cool that she's the only companion who rarely called The Doctor by his name, and instead referred to him as "professor."

They were implying during the Seven/Ace run that The Doctor was prepping Ace for something big-- possibly even teaching her to be a Timelady. The fact that she called him "professor" added to the idea that she saw him as a teacher, not just a friend. The Doctor hinted that there was a lot more to Dorothy than anyone else knew. After all, she ended up hurtling herself through time and space before she ever met The Doctor when she whipped up a Time Storm. She was a time traveler before The Doctor ever met her.

And she had a great ass, too. Really. Her butt looked quite nice in tight jeans. I was always happy to look at her every week.

I crushed on Ace. I admit it. I considered going to a convention just to meet Sophie Aldred and flirt with her. I never did it, but the fantasy ran through my mind at least a couple times.

However, it IS icky that they intended for Ace to have lost her virginity to Sabalom Glitz. Ewww. Girl shoots herself across time and space, and she ends up losing her cherry to the hairy, sweaty Doctor Who version of Harry Mudd? BLARGH.
 
2013-08-05 01:52:05 AM  

ZeroCorpse: First of all, regarding River Song's story, if any of you are really interested in 'what happened between such-and-such times' then you should check this out:  http://kickass.to/doctor-who-fan-edit-the-river-song-chronology-t7193 9 91.html
It's a fan edit that present River's story in HER chronological order, with some handy captions that help explain the way thing went. It's actually pretty handy if you have time and the interest in the character to watch all of it.


That's all well and good (but doesn't look like it includes her post-Library 'life' as shown in "The Name of the Doctor" and I don't know if it includes the mini-episodes.  Still, though, my point was there are important holes in her life that have not been filled. Yes, yes, I too volunteer to fill her important holes, but that's not what I mean.

---

Second, add me to those who consider Seven and Ace to be an awesome duo who were unfortunately saddled with a few bad scripts.

[cough, cough], the Kandyman, [cough]  The Happiness Patrol [cough]

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Ace is my favorite companion. She's just the right combination of post-punk, tomboy, and sexy bisexual Brit armed with explosives.

Indeed:
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lh3.googleusercontent.com

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I also think it's pretty cool that she's the only companion who rarely called The Doctor by his name, and instead referred to him as "professor."

To be clear, neither Susan nor any of the K-9s usually called him "Doctor" either, Susan addressing him as "Grandfather", and all of the K9s called him "Master".  River uses "Doctor", but also "Sweetie" and other affectations.

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They were implying during the Seven/Ace run that The Doctor was prepping Ace for something big-- possibly even teaching her to be a Timelady. The fact that she called him "professor" added to the idea that she saw him as a teacher, not just a friend. The Doctor hinted that there was a lot more to Dorothy than anyone else knew. After all, she ended up hurtling herself through time and space before she ever met The Doctor when she whipped up a Time Storm. She was a time traveler before The Doctor ever met her.

There was a multi-part webcast audio story in which she did become a Timelady, ''Death Comes to Time''. It wasn't all that good.

In some of the books, she becomes a space warrior, fighting Daleks and not bothering with the Doctor's niceties.  The cover art illustrations were based loosely on a costumed photo shoot from which these gems originated:
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And she had a great ass, too. Really. Her butt looked quite nice in tight jeans. I was always happy to look at her every week.

Good rack, too:
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I crushed on Ace. I admit it. I considered going to a convention just to meet Sophie Aldred and flirt with her. I never did it, but the fantasy ran through my mind at least a couple times.

How about a companion sammich:
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However, it IS icky that they intended for Ace to have lost her virginity to Sabalom Glitz. Ewww. Girl shoots herself across time and space, and she ends up losing her cherry to the hairy, sweaty Doctor Who version of Harry Mudd? BLARGH.

Glitz, that greasy bastage, got all the prime trim. Peri was so moist for him in  The Mysterious Planet that she nearly slipped on the floor from her own secretions, and she ended up marrying the aesthetically similar King Yrcanos a few episodes later (maybe she had a fetish for hairy fat guys). Even though Mel was, on the one hand, disgusted by him (particularly in The Ultimate Foe) he was so compelling that she left the Doctor and the TARDIS to run away with Glitz in  Dragonfire.He probably sold her into slavery the next time he was broke and/or bored with her.  The script editing got rid of the  overt references to Glitz having broken Ace's maidenhead, but she certainly performed it as a clearly disgruntled former lover.
 
2013-08-05 02:47:58 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: Surool: 100 Watt Walrus: People spend so much wasted energy on this non-issue.

The Doctor said he had unlimited507 regenerations when Matt Smith appeared in the Sarah Jane Adventures.

FTFY.

/I suppose that's close enough


CL: Can you change color? or are you always white?
DW: No, I can be anything.
DW: [is always a white guy]


1) So far.

2) You have to keep in mind that this is a money-making franchise, and they do have to be at least somewhat careful in casting the role if for no other reason than to keep the licensing sterling rolling in.

I know that's a less-than-ideal fact, but it's a fact nonetheless. The most passionate "Doctor Who" audience is young, geeky white boys. People like to see themselves in their heroes, thus the Doctor is a intelligent oddball white guy.

If Capaldi's run is successful - if it's demonstrated that they're safe to branch out from the relatively young and handsome (well, British handsome) actors - the next time I would not be at all surprised to see a black Doctor. (If this happens, they'll certainly go younger than Capaldi.)

But you'll never see a woman in the role. Too much of a fundamental shift in the underlying dynamic of the show.
 
2013-08-05 03:33:35 AM  
you know it occurred to me they could've trolled everyone and announced John Simm as the new Doctor. Yes have the man who's the best Master be the Doctor, cause why the hell not?
 
2013-08-05 04:37:47 AM  

100 Watt Walrus: DW: [is always a white guy]

1) So far.


That was said by Smith's Doctor; his regeneration will also be a white guy.

100 Watt Walrus: ) You have to keep in mind that this is a money-making franchise


Well, duh. But using r/l excuses to hand-wave in-show stuff is lame.

The point is, in-show, he says he can be whatever he wants, yet consistently chooses to be a white male.
 
2013-08-05 05:15:18 AM  

WhyteRaven74: you know it occurred to me they could've trolled everyone and announced John Simm as the new Doctor. Yes have the man who's the best Master be the Doctor, cause why the hell not?


Because Anthony Ainley is dead.
 
2013-08-05 05:42:57 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: 100 Watt Walrus: DW: [is always a white guy]

1) So far.

That was said by Smith's Doctor; his regeneration will also be a white guy.

100 Watt Walrus: ) You have to keep in mind that this is a money-making franchise

Well, duh. But using r/l excuses to hand-wave in-show stuff is lame.

The point is, in-show, he says he can be whatever he wants, yet consistently chooses to be a white male.


While it is possible for Time Lords to choose their form during a willing regeneration (Romana), this has not yet ever been the case for any of the Doctor's on-screen regenerations (we don't yet know what the hell happened with the John Hurt incarnation).

When a Time Lord regenerates in the process of otherwise dying, he/she doesn't have the time or the energy available to pause and select a form. The Doctor has never  chosen to be a white male. He's just almost died, then found himself recovering in a new body.

An argument could be made (although no one ever has as far as I know) that under such circumstances, the body sticks to certain known parameters to make sure the process goes as smoothly as possible.

(Of course, taking that argument to its logical conclusion, one would have to wonder why the Doctor's body wouldn't just regenerate into the same form it was in already - Matt Smith, Mark II, so to speak. Plus, when Davison's Doctor says in "Castrovalva" "That's the trouble with regeneration -- you never know what you're going to get," and in Eccleston's regeneration scene he says "I might have two heads, or no head. It's a bit dodgy, this process. You never know what you're going to end up with." But let's not go down that rabbit hole.)
 
2013-08-05 05:44:08 AM  

Tax Boy: [img.fark.net image 288x432]
[img.fark.net image 850x531]

* TARDIS cloister bell rings *

WHO'S THAT AT THE DOOR?

[freshalmighty.com image 850x566]


Why would they go for the drummer when they could get the lead singer.
www.rsanews.com
 
2013-08-05 06:14:11 AM  
Surprisingly little biatching that the new, good Doctor isn't black, or a chick, or anything other than a white guy. Given the rampant wishlisting for a nonsense diversity-rainbow Doctor prior to the announcement. Although it IS amusing to see the whining across various boards and social media that the new Doctor is "soooo old". It's almost like there's a geek chic bandwagon based on the Doctor being young and cute or something.

NuWho. Snert.

/nuwho is goddamned preachy pandering, but not as badly as it could be
 
2013-08-05 06:21:33 AM  

robohobo: Surprisingly little biatching that the new, good Doctor isn't black, or a chick, or anything other than a white guy. Given the rampant wishlisting for a nonsense diversity-rainbow Doctor prior to the announcement. Although it IS amusing to see the whining across various boards and social media that the new Doctor is "soooo old". It's almost like there's a geek chic bandwagon based on the Doctor being young and cute or something.

NuWho. Snert.

/nuwho is goddamned preachy pandering, but not as badly as it could be


You sound white. Very, very white.
 
2013-08-05 06:22:17 AM  

ADHD Librarian: Tax Boy: [img.fark.net image 288x432]
[img.fark.net image 850x531]

* TARDIS cloister bell rings *

WHO'S THAT AT THE DOOR?

[freshalmighty.com image 850x566]

Why would they go for the drummer when they could get the lead singer.
[www.rsanews.com image 634x461]


Fantastic find!
 
2013-08-05 06:28:48 AM  

robohobo: It's almost like there's a geek chic bandwagon based on the Doctor being young and cute or something.


Behold: http://12thdoctorbutthurt.tumblr.com/ (NSFW language)
 
2013-08-05 06:35:46 AM  

100 Watt Walrus: robohobo: Surprisingly little biatching that the new, good Doctor isn't black, or a chick, or anything other than a white guy. Given the rampant wishlisting for a nonsense diversity-rainbow Doctor prior to the announcement. Although it IS amusing to see the whining across various boards and social media that the new Doctor is "soooo old". It's almost like there's a geek chic bandwagon based on the Doctor being young and cute or something.

NuWho. Snert.

/nuwho is goddamned preachy pandering, but not as badly as it could be

You sound white. Very, very white.


Oh, boo hoo.

avalanche: robohobo: It's almost like there's a geek chic bandwagon based on the Doctor being young and cute or something.

Behold: http://12thdoctorbutthurt.tumblr.com/ (NSFW language)


Farking hilarious. "Moffat is racist, sexist, homophobic, and an animal abuser because he didn't make the Doctor a gay transgendered black anthropomorphic dog woman from a 3rd world country." lulz. And it perfectly describes the little biatches whining about Capaldi.
 
2013-08-05 06:39:33 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: CL: Can you change color? or are you always white?
DW: No, I can be anything.
DW: [is always a white guy]


According to Neil Gaiman the role has been offered to a black guy, and he turned it down.

So, basically, shut the fark up about shiat you don't know about?
 
2013-08-05 06:41:58 AM  

avalanche: robohobo: It's almost like there's a geek chic bandwagon based on the Doctor being young and cute or something.

Behold: http://12thdoctorbutthurt.tumblr.com/ (NSFW language)


Wrath of the Tennant fangirls.

/I think Davison and Tennant have been the only "heartthrob" Doctors. A "pretty" Doctor is an aberration, not a requirement.
 
2013-08-05 06:45:14 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: avalanche: robohobo: It's almost like there's a geek chic bandwagon based on the Doctor being young and cute or something.

Behold: http://12thdoctorbutthurt.tumblr.com/ (NSFW language)

Wrath of the Tennant fangirls.

/I think Davison and Tennant have been the only "heartthrob" Doctors. A "pretty" Doctor is an aberration, not a requirement.


Also fanboys, And fanthings. Musn't forget to be inclusive. Remember, a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of fans aren't normal folk, and they DEMAND to be heard and normalized.
 
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