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(BBC America)   Who will be the Twelfth Doctor? Exactly. More importantly, will The Doctor stay in Cleveland, or play for Miami next season? The Twelfth Doctor is revealed in Doctor Who: The Decision, live at 2 PM Eastern on BBC America   (bbcamerica.com) divider line 414
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2013-08-04 09:30:27 AM  
Benedict Cumberbatch, Brooklyn Nets
 
2013-08-04 09:39:59 AM  
Hugh Laurie, Houston Rockets
 
2013-08-04 09:50:56 AM  
Rupert Front, Washington Generals.
 
2013-08-04 09:51:37 AM  
Grint, stupid auto correct.
 
2013-08-04 09:56:29 AM  
Alfred Hawthorne Hill, but you can call him Benny.
 
2013-08-04 09:56:48 AM  
Rachel Weisz, Oklahoma Sparks
 
2013-08-04 10:10:25 AM  
Miranda Hart, Charlotte Hornets.
 
2013-08-04 10:19:24 AM  
Jennifer Saunders, New York Nets
 
2013-08-04 10:19:59 AM  

Nefarious: Benedict Cumberbatch, Brooklyn Nets


You can see how much of a sports fan I am when I get this wrong in my own city.
 
2013-08-04 10:23:45 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: Nefarious: Benedict Cumberbatch, Brooklyn Nets

You can see how much of a sports fan I am when I get this wrong in my own city.


No, I believe they are the New York Nets now.
 
2013-08-04 10:39:26 AM  
Kate Upton, Dallas Mavericks
 
2013-08-04 10:43:26 AM  
Dwayne Johnson, Manchester United!
 
2013-08-04 10:54:43 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: PC LOAD LETTER: Nefarious: Benedict Cumberbatch, Brooklyn Nets

You can see how much of a sports fan I am when I get this wrong in my own city.

No, I believe they are the New York Nets now.


Like I said...
 
2013-08-04 11:05:11 AM  
I will be much happoer if it is some semi-obscure british actor and not someone who is already famous for other things
 
2013-08-04 11:17:30 AM  
Sue Perkins, Minnesota Lynx.
 
2013-08-04 11:29:48 AM  
Already had a 12th Doctor

*coughtrialofatimelordcough*
 
2013-08-04 11:39:32 AM  

baka-san: Already had a 12th Doctor

*coughtrialofatimelordcough*


No, The Valeyard is an incarnation from between the twelfth Doctor and his final regeneration. That would make him Doctor 12.5.
 
2013-08-04 12:36:55 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: baka-san: Already had a 12th Doctor

*coughtrialofatimelordcough*

No, The Valeyard is an incarnation from between the twelfth Doctor and his final regeneration. That would make him Doctor 12.5.


If we want to play this game we can say that we arn't getting a 12th Doctor but a 11.5.
 
2013-08-04 01:33:31 PM  
John McCain, Detroit Falcons
 
2013-08-04 01:34:08 PM  
Ben Whishaw, Milwaukee Bucks
 
2013-08-04 01:34:14 PM  
You know what I'd love to see?

Paul McGann, appearance slightly altered via time and makeup given a proper run in the role.

/I can dream, dammit.
 
2013-08-04 01:35:19 PM  
Peter Capaldi, and the Seattle  Mariners Sonics Sounders Seahawksoh who the fark cares
 
2013-08-04 01:36:45 PM  
LeBron James?
 
2013-08-04 01:38:05 PM  
George Zimmerman, the Springfield Isotopes
 
2013-08-04 01:38:43 PM  
Christopher Lee, Gallifrey FC
 
2013-08-04 01:40:46 PM  
Dame Edna
 
2013-08-04 01:41:23 PM  
I've heard Peter Capaldi's name tossed around quite a bit as the odds-on favorite to be the 12th Doctor, so that's who I'll go with.  It certainly won't be Benedict Cumberbatch, he's too big of a name (though he is a natural ginger, and the Doctor always seems to despair that he's not), no matter how much I'd love to see him do it.  I think if he played the character with a touch of Sherlock's sociopathy, that would be very, very interesting.

Also, if I see one more "fan" demand that David Tennant come back, I'm going to reach through the computer screen and throttle them.  I loved David Tennant as the Doctor, I think he absolutely defined the role, not to mention the fact he's a stellar actor in everything else he's done, but come on.  The Doctor can't degenerate, no matter how much I'd love to see brown pinstripes and Chuck Taylors back in the TARDIS.  It's time to move forward.
 
2013-08-04 01:42:04 PM  
Your mom, your mom.
 
2013-08-04 01:42:37 PM  
 
2013-08-04 01:43:18 PM  
I just want to see an old(er) man again -- and absolutely NO romantic feelings between The Doctor and the companion(s)!
 
2013-08-04 01:44:39 PM  
AND THE NEW DOCTOR IS....
www.bized.co.uk

 
2013-08-04 01:45:03 PM  
Woman: check.
Ginger: check
static.hypable.com
 
2013-08-04 01:45:03 PM  
But I haven't caught up on the episodes since the end of Season 3. Israeli cable is weird that way.

/watched since Tom Baker when I was a kid -- first episode was "Seeds of Doom"! Really grew into the show with Peter Davidson
 
2013-08-04 01:45:16 PM  
her majesty, queen elizabeth II, millwall fc
 
2013-08-04 01:45:17 PM  
Richard E. Grant, The Toledo Mudhens
 
2013-08-04 01:45:43 PM  

bostonguy: But I haven't caught up on the episodes since the end of Season 3. Israeli cable is weird that way.

/watched since Tom Baker when I was a kid -- first episode was "Seeds of Doom"! Really grew into the show with Peter Davidson


I mean reruns on PBS back in America. Not THAT old for a Farker!
 
2013-08-04 01:46:17 PM  

Mr.Tangent: AND THE NEW DOCTOR IS....
[www.bized.co.uk image 450x443]


Oh man, Rowan Atkinson as The Doctor would be farking GOLD.  I know it'll never happen, but now I want that really, really bad.
 
2013-08-04 01:46:26 PM  
Hugh Laurie, Benedict Cumberbatch , Mos Def...

Give us a Doctor over 30 IRL and I'll be pleased.

15 minutes!
 
2013-08-04 01:46:43 PM  

Mr.Tangent: AND THE NEW DOCTOR IS....
[www.bized.co.uk image 450x443]


No no, that's #9.
 
2013-08-04 01:48:49 PM  

Coco LaFemme: Oh man, Rowan Atkinson as The Doctor would be farking GOLD.  I know it'll never happen, but now I want that really, really bad


It already has happened.
 
2013-08-04 01:48:53 PM  
Lindsay Lohan, Scottsdale Artichokes.
 
2013-08-04 01:49:04 PM  

Kirby Muxloe: Peter Capaldi, and the Seattle Mariners Sonics Sounders Seahawks

oh whothe fark cares  Pilots

FTFY


I kinda dont want it to be this guy, don't know much about him, but it...i don't know, doesnt look right to me
 
2013-08-04 01:49:13 PM  
Jack Gleeson, Toronto Maple Leafs
 
2013-08-04 01:49:22 PM  

Coco LaFemme: Mr.Tangent: AND THE NEW DOCTOR IS....
[www.bized.co.uk image 450x443]

Oh man, Rowan Atkinson as The Doctor would be farking GOLD.  I know it'll never happen, but now I want that really, really bad.


I've been saying this for years.
 
2013-08-04 01:50:43 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2013-08-04 01:50:46 PM  

chapman: Coco LaFemme: Oh man, Rowan Atkinson as The Doctor would be farking GOLD.  I know it'll never happen, but now I want that really, really bad

It already has happened.


Well twist my Dalek bumps!
 
2013-08-04 01:51:18 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
Hai Guys!
 
2013-08-04 01:51:28 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Coco LaFemme: Mr.Tangent: AND THE NEW DOCTOR IS....
[www.bized.co.uk image 450x443]

Oh man, Rowan Atkinson as The Doctor would be farking GOLD.  I know it'll never happen, but now I want that really, really bad.

I've been saying this for years.


I think he's the right combination of Eccleston's seriousness, Tennant's physicality, and Smith's goofiness.  Who do we need to bribe at the BBC to make this happen?  Does Moffat take personal checks directly?
 
2013-08-04 01:52:45 PM  
They aren't  streaming  this anywhere are they?
 
2013-08-04 01:52:56 PM  
Eddie Izzard (preferably in full tranvestite mode) would be awesome too.
 
2013-08-04 01:53:13 PM  
Anyone know if it's streaming online somewhere? No way to watch here... :( BBC America's website doesn't seem to have a way to watch!
 
2013-08-04 01:54:00 PM  
www.thefablife.com

Seriously, imagine the uproar if Prince Joffrey got the role.

He looks a bit alien, don't he?
 
2013-08-04 01:54:21 PM  

Coco LaFemme: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Coco LaFemme: Mr.Tangent: AND THE NEW DOCTOR IS....
[www.bized.co.uk image 450x443]

Oh man, Rowan Atkinson as The Doctor would be farking GOLD.  I know it'll never happen, but now I want that really, really bad.

I've been saying this for years.

I think he's the right combination of Eccleston's seriousness, Tennant's physicality, and Smith's goofiness.  Who do we need to bribe at the BBC to make this happen?  Does Moffat take personal checks directly?


He has to play it straight though, not as a comedian.  It wouldn't work if everybody thinks we've got Doctor Blackadder or Doctor Bean.
 
2013-08-04 01:54:38 PM  
I actually pay for cable TV and Verizon doesn't give me BBC America. Remind me to get someone to pick up that box this week.
 
2013-08-04 01:54:41 PM  

Coco LaFemme: Oh man, Rowan Atkinson as The Doctor would be farking GOLD.  I know it'll never happen, but now I want that really, really bad.


Here you go. Bonus points for Joanna Lumley.

And, my choice for the new Doctor:
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2013-08-04 01:54:55 PM  
David Morrissy - New York Yankees (  They're looking to replace A-Rod).
 
2013-08-04 01:56:15 PM  
My vote's  Jonathan Pryce.
 
2013-08-04 01:56:29 PM  

Confabulat: I actually pay for cable TV and Verizon doesn't give me BBC America. Remind me to get someone to pick up that box this week.


You on FIOS? I have it on Verizon
 
2013-08-04 01:57:02 PM  
It will be none of the people mentioned thus far.
 
2013-08-04 01:57:42 PM  
Peter Capaldi would be an interesting choice but I'd be a bit distracted by his role in Torchwood. It would be far from the first time an actor played multiple characters in the Doctor Who universe but I'd still like to see them minimize it.
 
2013-08-04 01:58:16 PM  

Piizzadude: You on FIOS? I have it on Verizon


Yeah, I get the "you are not subscribed to this channel." Then if I try to subscribe it tells me I can't. I really don't know why I have cable.
 
2013-08-04 01:58:20 PM  
Eddie Izzard,- Action Transvestites.
 
2013-08-04 01:59:53 PM  

Confabulat: Piizzadude: You on FIOS? I have it on Verizon

Yeah, I get the "you are not subscribed to this channel." Then if I try to subscribe it tells me I can't. I really don't know why I have cable.


Huh, thats weird, I have the cheapest package and have it available to me....
 
2013-08-04 02:00:24 PM  
Anyone have a stream?
 
2013-08-04 02:00:25 PM  
Paul Hogan, Paul Hogan.

/ a real man's Brit.
 
2013-08-04 02:01:28 PM  
Samuel L. Jackson
 
2013-08-04 02:01:49 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Coco LaFemme: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Coco LaFemme: Mr.Tangent: AND THE NEW DOCTOR IS....
[www.bized.co.uk image 450x443]

Oh man, Rowan Atkinson as The Doctor would be farking GOLD.  I know it'll never happen, but now I want that really, really bad.

I've been saying this for years.

I think he's the right combination of Eccleston's seriousness, Tennant's physicality, and Smith's goofiness.  Who do we need to bribe at the BBC to make this happen?  Does Moffat take personal checks directly?

He has to play it straight though, not as a comedian.  It wouldn't work if everybody thinks we've got Doctor Blackadder or Doctor Bean.


I agree, and now it's kind of pissing me off that it'll never happen because he's too big of a name.
 
2013-08-04 02:01:53 PM  
Bbamerica is not having commercial but a placeholder.
 
2013-08-04 02:02:10 PM  
David Bowie
 
2013-08-04 02:02:17 PM  

Piizzadude: Confabulat: Piizzadude: You on FIOS? I have it on Verizon

Yeah, I get the "you are not subscribed to this channel." Then if I try to subscribe it tells me I can't. I really don't know why I have cable.

Huh, thats weird, I have the cheapest package and have it available to me....


Ha it figures. Whenever I see something interesting in the guide I'm usually not subscribed to it.
 
2013-08-04 02:03:02 PM  
Richard Ayoade?
 
2013-08-04 02:03:20 PM  
Come on BBCA show us the damn program!
 
2013-08-04 02:03:25 PM  
a 1985 saab 900
 
2013-08-04 02:03:29 PM  
DInglebert Slaptyback
 
rpm
2013-08-04 02:03:41 PM  

Mr.Tangent: AND THE NEW DOCTOR IS....
[www.bized.co.uk image 450x443]


Wrong picture

i.telegraph.co.uk
 
2013-08-04 02:04:04 PM  
I'd have laughed if it was just a placeholder for twenty-five minutes, then a clip of Stephen Moffet saying, "The next Doctor is _," then going back to the placeholder.
 
2013-08-04 02:04:21 PM  
DO IT DAMN IT
 
2013-08-04 02:04:33 PM  
They need to release the complete Dr. Who on DVD.  As complete as possible at least.  Kind of like what they did with Dark Shadows recently.
 
2013-08-04 02:04:37 PM  
I just don't understand how you get to be next to Jenna Coleman and leave Dr. Who.
They'd have to kill me first.
 
2013-08-04 02:04:57 PM  

Smizni: Richard Ayoade?


static.tvtropes.org

We're skipping past Ayoade and going full Matt Berry on this biatch.
 
2013-08-04 02:05:00 PM  
On Graham Norton's set I see.
 
rpm
2013-08-04 02:05:18 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: They need to release the complete Dr. Who on DVD.  As complete as possible at least.  Kind of like what they did with Dark Shadows recently.


This. Holy shiat that would be expensive though.
 
2013-08-04 02:05:20 PM  
THE DOCTOR HATES CLEVELAND!
 
2013-08-04 02:05:24 PM  
can we get zoe heriot instead?
 
2013-08-04 02:05:39 PM  

Confabulat: Piizzadude: Confabulat: Piizzadude: You on FIOS? I have it on Verizon

Yeah, I get the "you are not subscribed to this channel." Then if I try to subscribe it tells me I can't. I really don't know why I have cable.

Huh, thats weird, I have the cheapest package and have it available to me....

Ha it figures. Whenever I see something interesting in the guide I'm usually not subscribed to it.


Welcome to the world of frontier fios, expensive as shiat and you dont get a LOT of the channels others get as part of their basic packages.
 
2013-08-04 02:05:45 PM  
I don't know what placeholder you guys are seeing, I'm watching it fine.

In case you don't know, you have to watch BBCA in HD sometimes to see the right programmes.
 
2013-08-04 02:05:47 PM  
Pete Townsend?
 
2013-08-04 02:05:56 PM  

rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: They need to release the complete Dr. Who on DVD.  As complete as possible at least.  Kind of like what they did with Dark Shadows recently.

This. Holy shiat that would be expensive though.


And would sell probably pretty well.
 
2013-08-04 02:06:04 PM  

Snapper Carr: Smizni: Richard Ayoade?

[static.tvtropes.org image 343x331]

We're skipping past Ayoade and going full Matt Berry on this biatch.


I would be ok with that too.
 
2013-08-04 02:06:25 PM  
Valentino Rossi.
 
2013-08-04 02:06:41 PM  
I'm going to say the Doctor is someone no one has been discussing, someone who is newer to acting with one known role, and is in his 40s.
 
2013-08-04 02:06:56 PM  

Zombie DJ: I just don't understand how you get to be next to Jenna Coleman and leave Dr. Who.
They'd have to kill me first.


Maybe Jenna will be the next doctor
 
2013-08-04 02:07:13 PM  

rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: They need to release the complete Dr. Who on DVD.  As complete as possible at least.  Kind of like what they did with Dark Shadows recently.

This. Holy shiat that would be expensive though.


I'd actually buy it though.  I won't buy all of the little disorganized single-episode-on-a-disc shiat they have now.
 
2013-08-04 02:07:36 PM  
How about one of the gang from Misfits?
 
2013-08-04 02:07:51 PM  
It should be James May. He's already under contract to the BBC and he convincingly plays 900 years old.
 
2013-08-04 02:08:05 PM  

James72: Zombie DJ: I just don't understand how you get to be next to Jenna Coleman and leave Dr. Who.
They'd have to kill me first.

Maybe Jenna will be the next doctor


That would actually be a great twist and completely awesome.
 
2013-08-04 02:08:46 PM  

Metalupis: I will be much happoer if it is some semi-obscure british actor and not someone who is already famous for other things


This is pretty much my theory of what will happen. When has this not happened? Who the hell knew who any of the previous three modern Doctors were in North America? It's a little exasperating seeing people hope beyond hope for a big name, though I will gracefully admit I was wrong if a big name does get it. I just don't think it's bloody likely given, oh, everything.
 
2013-08-04 02:09:00 PM  
I think the guy who plays Davos would be good
 
2013-08-04 02:09:13 PM  

Farkenhostile: Welcome to the world of frontier fios, expensive as shiat and you dont get a LOT of the channels others get as part of their basic packages.


Oh that explains a lot. The half-day the guy spent installing it wasn't annoying at all either.
 
2013-08-04 02:09:16 PM  
They're going to milk the arse out of this.
 
2013-08-04 02:09:43 PM  
Thpffft frbbbbt pfft frrrrt Rowan Atkinson pfrrrrrrrpt.

/Don't blame me if you can't speak Terseran
 
2013-08-04 02:10:30 PM  

Doomed: Who the hell knew who any of the previous three modern Doctors were in North America?


Well I knew who Chris Eccleston was
 
rpm
2013-08-04 02:10:45 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: They need to release the complete Dr. Who on DVD.  As complete as possible at least.  Kind of like what they did with Dark Shadows recently.

This. Holy shiat that would be expensive though.

I'd actually buy it though.  I won't buy all of the little disorganized single-episode-on-a-disc shiat they have now.


Big problem I see is what do you do as more episodes are found?
 
2013-08-04 02:10:54 PM  
It's going to be Gordon Ramsey.

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-08-04 02:11:01 PM  

TheManofPA: I'm going to say the Doctor is someone no one has been discussing, someone who is newer to acting with one known role, and is in his 40s.


I agree, except I think the actor will be early 30s at the oldest.

I'd prefer someone in their 40s or 50s for a couple series.
 
2013-08-04 02:11:09 PM  
the 5th doctor actually has sense in declaring th 2nd the best
 
2013-08-04 02:11:28 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: It should be James May. He's already under contract to the BBC and he convincingly plays 900 years old.


L oh L
 
2013-08-04 02:11:40 PM  

rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: They need to release the complete Dr. Who on DVD.  As complete as possible at least.  Kind of like what they did with Dark Shadows recently.

This. Holy shiat that would be expensive though.

I'd actually buy it though.  I won't buy all of the little disorganized single-episode-on-a-disc shiat they have now.

Big problem I see is what do you do as more episodes are found?


Who Rarities.
 
2013-08-04 02:11:41 PM  

TheManofPA: rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: They need to release the complete Dr. Who on DVD.  As complete as possible at least.  Kind of like what they did with Dark Shadows recently.

This. Holy shiat that would be expensive though.

And would sell probably pretty well.


I'd buy the shiat out of it no matter how much it was (almost)
 
2013-08-04 02:12:24 PM  
Seriously though, can someone explain to me why we need a TV special announcing who the next Doctor is?  Just issue a press release.  They didn't do this in 2009.
 
2013-08-04 02:12:30 PM  
If it wasn't for the fact that he has already appeared in the show, Mark Sheppard would have been brilliant
 
2013-08-04 02:12:43 PM  
Simon Pegg!
 
2013-08-04 02:13:05 PM  

rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: They need to release the complete Dr. Who on DVD.  As complete as possible at least.  Kind of like what they did with Dark Shadows recently.

This. Holy shiat that would be expensive though.

I'd actually buy it though.  I won't buy all of the little disorganized single-episode-on-a-disc shiat they have now.

Big problem I see is what do you do as more episodes are found?


at this point, as much as i want the missing episodes to be found, what are the odds of too many being located?
 
2013-08-04 02:13:23 PM  
img.fark.net
img.fark.net

* TARDIS cloister bell rings *

WHO'S THAT AT THE DOOR?

freshalmighty.com
 
2013-08-04 02:13:33 PM  
It's good to see farkers get so wound up about their political representatives. I'm not even sure who's in line for the Surgeon General's seat.
 
2013-08-04 02:13:43 PM  
Definitely a guy
 
2013-08-04 02:13:45 PM  

Metalupis: If it wasn't for the fact that he has already appeared in the show, Mark Sheppard would have been brilliant


Hasn't stopped numerous other actors from the show.
 
2013-08-04 02:14:03 PM  

Coco LaFemme: Seriously though, can someone explain to me why we need a TV special announcing who the next Doctor is?  Just issue a press release.  They didn't do this in 2009.


getting rid of matt smith is worthy of celebration
 
2013-08-04 02:14:13 PM  
Matt Smith with short hair is odd.
 
2013-08-04 02:14:20 PM  

Metalupis: If it wasn't for the fact that he has already appeared in the show, Mark Sheppard would have been brilliant


If they really wanted to use him, they could always retcon his previous character as being the Doctor undercove, or something else. Continuity has always taken a back seat to the current story they want to tell on this show.
 
2013-08-04 02:14:35 PM  
It's going to be a he, and Matt Smith knows who it is.
 
2013-08-04 02:14:41 PM  

Coco LaFemme: Seriously though, can someone explain to me why we need a TV special announcing who the next Doctor is?  Just issue a press release.  They didn't do this in 2009.


Because this is it.
There can only be 12 regenerations.
It's the end.....of time.....
 
2013-08-04 02:14:54 PM  

Coco LaFemme: Seriously though, can someone explain to me why we need a TV special announcing who the next Doctor is?  Just issue a press release.  They didn't do this in 2009.


Because the show's popularity has exploded internationally over the last 3 or 4 years.

TL;DR - Because they can
 
2013-08-04 02:15:14 PM  

Metalupis: If it wasn't for the fact that he has already appeared in the show, Mark Sheppard would have been brilliant


He always plays a badish guy though.
 
2013-08-04 02:15:43 PM  
Oh shiat she just said it could be a woman
 
2013-08-04 02:15:55 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Metalupis: If it wasn't for the fact that he has already appeared in the show, Mark Sheppard would have been brilliant

Hasn't stopped numerous other actors from the show.


Good point, could even lampshade it by having him say something along the lines of likeing his style
 
2013-08-04 02:16:25 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Coco LaFemme: Seriously though, can someone explain to me why we need a TV special announcing who the next Doctor is?  Just issue a press release.  They didn't do this in 2009.

Because the show's popularity has exploded internationally over the last 3 or 4 years.

TL;DR - Because they can


Moichandising!
 
2013-08-04 02:16:40 PM  
The Doctor is in the building.
 
2013-08-04 02:16:40 PM  

BizarreMan: Metalupis: If it wasn't for the fact that he has already appeared in the show, Mark Sheppard would have been brilliant

He always plays a badish guy though.


Maybe after the 50th Special they could have the Doctor acting a bit harsher for a couple series.
 
2013-08-04 02:16:57 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Oh shiat she just said it could be a woman


Matt just said, "He came up to me on the street."  So it's a male, and likely not American.
 
2013-08-04 02:17:13 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Oh shiat she just said it could be a woman


Maybe it could be Aisha Taylor, that would be a nice curveball.
 
2013-08-04 02:17:14 PM  

Zombie DJ: Coco LaFemme: Seriously though, can someone explain to me why we need a TV special announcing who the next Doctor is?  Just issue a press release.  They didn't do this in 2009.

Because this is it.
There can only be 12 regenerations.
It's the end.....of time.....


You can't count.  1+12 regens = 13 Doctors.

And that implies they plan to hold onto something to the detriment of not making money.  Esepcialliy after they have retconned essentially every other known fact about the Doctor at least 3 times
 
2013-08-04 02:17:25 PM  
Steven Hawking would make a good Dalek.
 
2013-08-04 02:17:30 PM  

BizarreMan: Metalupis: If it wasn't for the fact that he has already appeared in the show, Mark Sheppard would have been brilliant

He always plays a badish guy though.


So let him play a baddish Doctor, would be interesting to see
 
2013-08-04 02:17:52 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: Coco LaFemme: Seriously though, can someone explain to me why we need a TV special announcing who the next Doctor is?  Just issue a press release.  They didn't do this in 2009.

getting rid of matt smith is worthy of celebration


I like Matt Smith; he had a yeoman's job anyway, following up Tennant.  No matter who they chose, they'd have their work cut out for them, but I think he did a great job.  I'm sorry to see him go, but that's the whole point of the show after all.
 
2013-08-04 02:18:15 PM  
OH BRIAN COX SHOULD BE THE DOCTOR
 
2013-08-04 02:18:25 PM  
It's going to be a The Wire cast member. McNulty, Stringer Bell or Bubs
 
2013-08-04 02:18:41 PM  

Smizni: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Oh shiat she just said it could be a woman

Maybe it could be Aisha Taylor, that would be a nice curveball.


A VERY nice curveball.
 
2013-08-04 02:18:44 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: OH BRIAN COX SHOULD BE THE DOCTOR


I THINK YOU MEAN BRIAN BLESSED.
 
2013-08-04 02:19:13 PM  
Christopher ecclestone was the best of NuWho
 
2013-08-04 02:19:26 PM  

No Line For Beer: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Oh shiat she just said it could be a woman

Matt just said, "He came up to me on the street."  So it's a male, and likely not American.


It's not allowed to be an American as long as it's produced by the BBC. All actors must be British.
 
2013-08-04 02:19:40 PM  

Coco LaFemme: Dead for Tax Reasons: Coco LaFemme: Seriously though, can someone explain to me why we need a TV special announcing who the next Doctor is?  Just issue a press release.  They didn't do this in 2009.

getting rid of matt smith is worthy of celebration

I like Matt Smith; he had a yeoman's job anyway, following up Tennant.  No matter who they chose, they'd have their work cut out for them, but I think he did a great job.  I'm sorry to see him go, but that's the whole point of the show after all.


By the time Matt Smith came along, I think a lot of people were ready for Dr. Teeth to take a hike.
 
2013-08-04 02:19:41 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's going to be a The Wire cast member. McNulty, Stringer Bell or Bubs


Bubs would be awesome, if he played it like that character. Or Omar.
 
2013-08-04 02:19:48 PM  

t3knomanser: The All-Powerful Atheismo: OH BRIAN COX SHOULD BE THE DOCTOR

I THINK YOU MEAN BRIAN BLESSED.


Well, who wants to be The Doctor forever?
 
2013-08-04 02:19:53 PM  
www.moviebrainrot.com

The Tardis interior of the TARDIS will be the loudest place in the universe
 
2013-08-04 02:19:56 PM  
Did they just skip over Eccleston?
 
2013-08-04 02:20:13 PM  

Coco LaFemme: Dead for Tax Reasons: Coco LaFemme: Seriously though, can someone explain to me why we need a TV special announcing who the next Doctor is?  Just issue a press release.  They didn't do this in 2009.

getting rid of matt smith is worthy of celebration

I like Matt Smith; he had a yeoman's job anyway, following up Tennant.  No matter who they chose, they'd have their work cut out for them, but I think he did a great job.  I'm sorry to see him go, but that's the whole point of the show after all.


he was good for a while, maybe my issue is he stayed on too long, maybe i'm bitter eccleston only stayed on for one season
 
2013-08-04 02:20:13 PM  
My money is on Moffat pulling a Pat Riley and making himself the star.
 
2013-08-04 02:20:17 PM  
Wil Wheaton is the Doctor
 
2013-08-04 02:20:50 PM  

NeoCortex42: By the time Matt Smith came along, I think a lot of people were ready for Dr. Teeth to take a hike.


Oh yeah. By the end of Tennant's era, he had... yeesh.

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Well, who wants to be The Doctor forever?


DIIIIIIIVVVVVVEEEEEE!
 
2013-08-04 02:20:52 PM  
They wouldn't even let David Tenant use his natural, Scottish accent so there's no way they'd let an American play the part.
 
rpm
2013-08-04 02:21:09 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: TheManofPA: rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: They need to release the complete Dr. Who on DVD.  As complete as possible at least.  Kind of like what they did with Dark Shadows recently.

This. Holy shiat that would be expensive though.

And would sell probably pretty well.

I'd buy the shiat out of it no matter how much it was (almost)


The Dark Shadows set lists for $600, I can imagine a Dr. Who set hitting 4 figures.
 
2013-08-04 02:21:17 PM  

Lost Thought 00: No Line For Beer: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Oh shiat she just said it could be a woman

Matt just said, "He came up to me on the street."  So it's a male, and likely not American.

It's not allowed to be an American as long as it's produced by the BBC. All actors must be British.


I really wish we had gotten a second series out of him. It's too bad we don't even get an appearance in the 50th Special.
 
2013-08-04 02:21:22 PM  
i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-08-04 02:21:37 PM  

phalamir: You can't count. 1+12 regens = 13 Doctors.

And that implies they plan to hold onto something to the detriment of not making money. Esepcialliy after they have retconned essentially every other known fact about the Doctor at least 3 times


Don't be pissy in a Dr. Who thread.
 
2013-08-04 02:21:43 PM  

phalamir: Zombie DJ: Coco LaFemme: Seriously though, can someone explain to me why we need a TV special announcing who the next Doctor is?  Just issue a press release.  They didn't do this in 2009.

Because this is it.
There can only be 12 regenerations.
It's the end.....of time.....

You can't count.  1+12 regens = 13 Doctors.

And that implies they plan to hold onto something to the detriment of not making money.  Esepcialliy after they have retconned essentially every other known fact about the Doctor at least 3 times


River gave up all of her regenerations to bring the Doctor back to life. They can just say she gave those regenerations to him.
 
2013-08-04 02:21:51 PM  
LOL, Guardian live blog ...

"Now for a celebrity talking heads package. Like the I Love The 70s shows, remember? Let's call this one I Love Not Finding Out Who The New Doctor Is, Even Though That's Literally The Only Reason Why I Tuned Into This Flipping Thing Anyway."
 
2013-08-04 02:22:04 PM  
Bernard Cribbins?
 
2013-08-04 02:22:16 PM  
Eccleston was bullied out of the role hence only staying one season.
 
2013-08-04 02:22:56 PM  
www.jeffbots.com

I stand here for the Daleks, what to us from The Doctor?

nuldi.com

Scorn and defiance... slight regard.
 
2013-08-04 02:23:15 PM  
Frankie Boyle.

"It looks like we've materialised in the 19th century. Oh, no, it's Glasgow 2007."
 
2013-08-04 02:23:26 PM  

t3knomanser: The All-Powerful Atheismo: OH BRIAN COX SHOULD BE THE DOCTOR

I THINK YOU MEAN BRIAN BLESSED.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-08-04 02:23:27 PM  
I'm happy Doctor Who has made it to the point that they air something

Zombie DJ: Coco LaFemme: Seriously though, can someone explain to me why we need a TV special announcing who the next Doctor is?  Just issue a press release.  They didn't do this in 2009.

Because this is it.
There can only be 12 regenerations.
It's the end.....of time.....


I'm happy Doctor Who has made it to the point that they air it at the same time on both sides of the pond.
//See ya Matt Smith!!
 
2013-08-04 02:23:35 PM  

Serious Black: phalamir: Zombie DJ: Coco LaFemme: Seriously though, can someone explain to me why we need a TV special announcing who the next Doctor is?  Just issue a press release.  They didn't do this in 2009.

Because this is it.
There can only be 12 regenerations.
It's the end.....of time.....

You can't count.  1+12 regens = 13 Doctors.

And that implies they plan to hold onto something to the detriment of not making money.  Esepcialliy after they have retconned essentially every other known fact about the Doctor at least 3 times

River gave up all of her regenerations to bring the Doctor back to life. They can just say she gave those regenerations to him.


Even easier: No Timelords, no rules.

They were the ones that gifted the Master with extra lives. The limit seems to be artificial anyway.
 
2013-08-04 02:23:42 PM  

rpm: The Dark Shadows set lists for $600, I can imagine a Dr. Who set hitting 4 figures.


I'd pay 4 figures
 
2013-08-04 02:23:47 PM  

CarrieWhite: Eccleston was bullied out of the role hence only staying one season.


I heard that's all he wanted to do because TV was too strict.
Am I wrong?
 
2013-08-04 02:23:50 PM  
So is the swerve going to be that they'll only show the Doctor from far away in the last five seconds and then cut to black?
 
2013-08-04 02:23:51 PM  

NeoCortex42: Coco LaFemme: Dead for Tax Reasons: Coco LaFemme: Seriously though, can someone explain to me why we need a TV special announcing who the next Doctor is?  Just issue a press release.  They didn't do this in 2009.

getting rid of matt smith is worthy of celebration

I like Matt Smith; he had a yeoman's job anyway, following up Tennant.  No matter who they chose, they'd have their work cut out for them, but I think he did a great job.  I'm sorry to see him go, but that's the whole point of the show after all.

By the time Matt Smith came along, I think a lot of people were ready for Dr. Teeth to take a hike.


I'm biased, but I could have easily had another series or two of the Tenth Doctor.  I understood why he wanted to go though, it's an all-consuming part that takes 3/4 of a year to film, and it wears you out.  Plus, he had that back surgery in December of 2008.
 
rpm
2013-08-04 02:24:11 PM  

Lernaeus: LOL, Guardian live blog ...

"Now for a celebrity talking heads package. Like the I Love The 70s shows, remember? Let's call this one I Love Not Finding Out Who The New Doctor Is, Even Though That's Literally The Only Reason Why I Tuned Into This Flipping Thing Anyway."


I like the one before that

"Now Zoe Ball is explaining that the Doctor has the ability to regenerate, which apparently means that he changes in appearance. I don't know about anyone else, but I had no idea about this. I hope she explains what that funny blue box that he flies around is next, or what Doctor Who is. Or what a television is."
 
2013-08-04 02:24:19 PM  

Serious Black: phalamir: Zombie DJ: Coco LaFemme: Seriously though, can someone explain to me why we need a TV special announcing who the next Doctor is?  Just issue a press release.  They didn't do this in 2009.

Because this is it.
There can only be 12 regenerations.
It's the end.....of time.....

You can't count.  1+12 regens = 13 Doctors.

And that implies they plan to hold onto something to the detriment of not making money.  Esepcialliy after they have retconned essentially every other known fact about the Doctor at least 3 times

River gave up all of her regenerations to bring the Doctor back to life. They can just say she gave those regenerations to him.


Or if they wanted just say "oh yeah when Eckelsons Doctor absorbed the vortex from Rose he reset the regeneration counter"
 
2013-08-04 02:24:22 PM  

rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: TheManofPA: rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: They need to release the complete Dr. Who on DVD.  As complete as possible at least.  Kind of like what they did with Dark Shadows recently.

This. Holy shiat that would be expensive though.

And would sell probably pretty well.

I'd buy the shiat out of it no matter how much it was (almost)

The Dark Shadows set lists for $600, I can imagine a Dr. Who set hitting 4 figures.


I've spent probably around 2k on the various Doctor Who DVDs.  It takes up 3 shelves on a bookcase.
 
2013-08-04 02:24:22 PM  
Tilda Swinton has been spotted in the building.
 
2013-08-04 02:24:24 PM  

rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: TheManofPA: rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: They need to release the complete Dr. Who on DVD.  As complete as possible at least.  Kind of like what they did with Dark Shadows recently.

This. Holy shiat that would be expensive though.

And would sell probably pretty well.

I'd buy the shiat out of it no matter how much it was (almost)

The Dark Shadows set lists for $600, I can imagine a Dr. Who set hitting 4 figures.


I have a buddy who built a custom Tardis external hd enclosure that houses every episode available on the net. Lights up, makes the noises etc. Geeks me out every time I see it.
 
2013-08-04 02:25:03 PM  

LectertheChef: Tilda Swinton has been spotted in the building.


So it's not a woman?
 
2013-08-04 02:25:03 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: rpm: The Dark Shadows set lists for $600, I can imagine a Dr. Who set hitting 4 figures.

I'd pay 4 figures


The only thing that may make a Complete Who set cheap is the fact that it's just a matter of slapping already paid for material into one set.
 
2013-08-04 02:25:23 PM  

Zombie DJ: CarrieWhite: Eccleston was bullied out of the role hence only staying one season.

I heard that's all he wanted to do because TV was too strict.
Am I wrong?


I believe he said he only wanted to do one series because he didn't want to be typecast.
 
2013-08-04 02:25:35 PM  

LectertheChef: Bernard Cribbins?


someone has to represent the crappy peter cushing movies
 
2013-08-04 02:25:46 PM  
Stephen Hawking should be the next Doctor
 
2013-08-04 02:26:01 PM  

drewogatory: rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: TheManofPA: rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: They need to release the complete Dr. Who on DVD.  As complete as possible at least.  Kind of like what they did with Dark Shadows recently.

This. Holy shiat that would be expensive though.

And would sell probably pretty well.

I'd buy the shiat out of it no matter how much it was (almost)

The Dark Shadows set lists for $600, I can imagine a Dr. Who set hitting 4 figures.

I have a buddy who built a custom Tardis external hd enclosure that houses every episode available on the net. Lights up, makes the noises etc. Geeks me out every time I see it.


How much space does the whole series take up?
 
2013-08-04 02:26:08 PM  

Zombie DJ: CarrieWhite: Eccleston was bullied out of the role hence only staying one season.

I heard that's all he wanted to do because TV was too strict.
Am I wrong?


He initially signed on as a 1 year contract with that belief. He changed his mind after the new series took off and wanted to stay on longer, but the producers wouldn't let him.
 
2013-08-04 02:26:13 PM  
Christopher Lee?
 
2013-08-04 02:26:19 PM  
Kenneth Branagh
 
2013-08-04 02:26:21 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: LectertheChef: Tilda Swinton has been spotted in the building.

So it's not a woman?


*Golf Clap*
 
2013-08-04 02:26:23 PM  

Metalupis: Serious Black: phalamir: Zombie DJ: Coco LaFemme: Seriously though, can someone explain to me why we need a TV special announcing who the next Doctor is?  Just issue a press release.  They didn't do this in 2009.

Because this is it.
There can only be 12 regenerations.
It's the end.....of time.....

You can't count.  1+12 regens = 13 Doctors.

And that implies they plan to hold onto something to the detriment of not making money.  Esepcialliy after they have retconned essentially every other known fact about the Doctor at least 3 times

River gave up all of her regenerations to bring the Doctor back to life. They can just say she gave those regenerations to him.

Or if they wanted just say "oh yeah when Eckelsons Doctor absorbed the vortex from Rose he reset the regeneration counter"


I'd rather they play up him dying after the next regeneration as the last, and at least let the *handwave* of more regen's be a mystery.
 
2013-08-04 02:26:36 PM  
IMDB is about to explode
 
2013-08-04 02:26:41 PM  

Coco LaFemme: I believe he said he only wanted to do one series because he didn't want to be typecast.


He said that at the time. Since then, he's essentially admitted that he and RTD wanted to kill each other.
 
2013-08-04 02:26:47 PM  
ZOMG, IT'S...

Monty Python's Flying Circus!
 
2013-08-04 02:26:52 PM  
OLD MAN DOCTOR!
 
2013-08-04 02:26:54 PM  
Cary Elwes's triumphant return?
 
2013-08-04 02:27:02 PM  
who?
 
2013-08-04 02:27:04 PM  
Who?
 
2013-08-04 02:27:07 PM  
Peter Capaldi
 
2013-08-04 02:27:13 PM  
imageshack.us
 
2013-08-04 02:27:18 PM  
Holy shiat, I like the choice already!
 
2013-08-04 02:27:20 PM  

Coco LaFemme: Zombie DJ: CarrieWhite: Eccleston was bullied out of the role hence only staying one season.

I heard that's all he wanted to do because TV was too strict.
Am I wrong?

I believe he said he only wanted to do one series because he didn't want to be typecast.


The typecast line was just the polite way of putting it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2017666/Christopher-Ecc le ston-left-Doctor-Who-just-1-series-politics-bullying.html
 
2013-08-04 02:27:25 PM  
Well, that's not really a surprise.
 
2013-08-04 02:27:26 PM  
Peter Capaldi!!!

I didn't think they'd get him.
 
2013-08-04 02:27:32 PM  
Hm.

There is never more promise for Doctor Who fans than when a new Doctor is announced.
 
2013-08-04 02:27:53 PM  
Peter Capaldi?  Who the hell is that?
 
2013-08-04 02:27:54 PM  
I don't know who he is, so that's good. He does look a he will be a fine Doctor.
 
2013-08-04 02:27:57 PM  
Peter Capaldi
 
2013-08-04 02:27:59 PM  

Zombie DJ: Who?


Just like I figured back at the start of the speculation. It was going to be someone nobody's ever heard of.
 
2013-08-04 02:28:01 PM  
encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com

If they made the Doctor an Azn female, the ratings would skyrocket.

And if it's an Azn female Doctor and kept her young companions? Well, you may as well just forget changing tat channel bud cuz you're never leaving BBC America ever again!
 
2013-08-04 02:28:03 PM  
Our new doctor is more than a worthless piece of s star star t.
 
2013-08-04 02:28:06 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
When are we going to get to the fireworks factory announcement?
 
2013-08-04 02:28:13 PM  

Zombie DJ: Who?


Played Snarky british politicians in many comedies.
 
2013-08-04 02:28:25 PM  
I suppose it makes sense, He played W.H.O. Doctor in World War Z.
 
2013-08-04 02:28:27 PM  
Wiki is already updated
 
2013-08-04 02:28:28 PM  
55?

Damn. They went older.

Nice.

/weren't Hartnell, Troughton, and Pertwee all roughly this age?
 
2013-08-04 02:28:43 PM  
Where do you think you are, some farking regency costume drama? This is Doctor Who, not some farking Jane farking Austen novel! Allow me to pop a jaunty little bonnet on your purview and ram it up your shiatter with a lubricated horse cock!
 
2013-08-04 02:28:47 PM  

NeoCortex42: drewogatory: rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: TheManofPA: rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: They need to release the complete Dr. Who on DVD.  As complete as possible at least.  Kind of like what they did with Dark Shadows recently.

This. Holy shiat that would be expensive though.

And would sell probably pretty well.

I'd buy the shiat out of it no matter how much it was (almost)

The Dark Shadows set lists for $600, I can imagine a Dr. Who set hitting 4 figures.

I have a buddy who built a custom Tardis external hd enclosure that houses every episode available on the net. Lights up, makes the noises etc. Geeks me out every time I see it.

How much space does the whole series take up?


I think he told me it's a 2.5 TB drive, but I'm pretty sure there's a ton of free space but it's not like I looked at his properties or anything.
 
2013-08-04 02:28:58 PM  
Strange they'd use Peter Capaldi  after him being in Torchwood.
 
2013-08-04 02:29:02 PM  
so who else are they going to recycle from  fire of pompeii....
 
2013-08-04 02:29:12 PM  
Kinda disappointed they didn't go with a different look.
Tall, high hair and skinny....again.
 
2013-08-04 02:29:17 PM  
So far, so good. At least they didn't keep going younger.
 
2013-08-04 02:29:24 PM  
All this fuss about a new English doctor... maybe national health care isn't all that it's cracked up to be...
 
2013-08-04 02:29:30 PM  
The funniest thing about it, is  Peter Capaldi played a WHO doctor in World War Z.
 
2013-08-04 02:29:41 PM  
Okay, if older guy is hitting on the young girls, that will be creepy, so hopefully they won't be doing that.
 
2013-08-04 02:29:42 PM  
I was right, it's Peter Capaldi.  Interesting selection, I must say.
 
2013-08-04 02:29:43 PM  

LowbrowDeluxe: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 438x580]
When are we going to get to the fireworks factory announcement?


Seriously, BBC A?  *right* as I hit post?
 
2013-08-04 02:30:06 PM  
He seems like he could do a Pertwee-style Doctor. We need a 21st century Pertwee - that just sounds refreshing!
 
2013-08-04 02:30:24 PM  
Malcolm Tucker is the New Doctor? Hell Farking Yes, you shiate. I want swears out the arse!
 
2013-08-04 02:30:26 PM  
at least they went older finally...was waiting for an infant to be the next doctor
 
2013-08-04 02:30:36 PM  

CarrieWhite: Coco LaFemme: Zombie DJ: CarrieWhite: Eccleston was bullied out of the role hence only staying one season.

I heard that's all he wanted to do because TV was too strict.
Am I wrong?

I believe he said he only wanted to do one series because he didn't want to be typecast.

The typecast line was just the polite way of putting it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2017666/Christopher-Ecc le ston-left-Doctor-Who-just-1-series-politics-bullying.html


IMO, the Eccleston  version was "Ted Bundy In Space!".
 
2013-08-04 02:30:37 PM  

TheManofPA: Wiki is already updated


Peter Dougan Capaldi (born 14 April 1958) is a Scottish actor and film director. He has played numerous roles in film and television, but is best known for his role as, a in the series and its follow-up film. In 1995, his short film won the. He is to be the Twelfth Doctor in Doctor Who. Bummer.
 
2013-08-04 02:30:43 PM  

labman: Peter Capaldi?  Who the hell is that?


Good actor. Check out "In the Loop" if you have netflix.
 
2013-08-04 02:30:52 PM  

CarrieWhite: Strange they'd use Peter Capaldi  after him being in Torchwood.


Not really...

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-08-04 02:31:54 PM  
AND STILL NOT GINGER!
 
2013-08-04 02:32:24 PM  
media.tumblr.com

Previously on Doctor Who...
 
2013-08-04 02:32:27 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Okay, if older guy is hitting on the young girls, that will be creepy, so hopefully they won't be doing that.


I think that could actually work. Make the Doctor fairly creepy and pervy. Give him a couple of ferrets as pets too.
 
2013-08-04 02:32:42 PM  
YES YES YES!

He was DAMN good in "The Hour"!
 
rpm
2013-08-04 02:32:44 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: CarrieWhite: Strange they'd use Peter Capaldi  after him being in Torchwood.

Not really...

[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x384]


And don't forget the princess that became Romana II
 
2013-08-04 02:32:48 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: 55?

Damn. They went older.

Nice.

/weren't Hartnell, Troughton, and Pertwee all roughly this age?


Thank potato it wasn't a teenager.
 
2013-08-04 02:32:53 PM  

Zombie DJ: Kinda disappointed they didn't go with a different look.
Tall, high hair and skinny....again.


Well, not like they can do a fat Doctor. How would he run?
 
2013-08-04 02:33:12 PM  
Lots of people: Who?

I see what you did there.
 
2013-08-04 02:33:24 PM  
He was Azolan in Dangerous Liaisons, a movie I've seen probably 50 times. He was good. That's all I know of him.

/American
 
2013-08-04 02:33:34 PM  
Next season is looking pretty good..
 
2013-08-04 02:33:41 PM  
They could used the fact that Capaldi is Scottish as a clue to fark with everyone's heads before the announcement.
 
2013-08-04 02:33:46 PM  
Will be fun to see him reunite with Craig Ferguson. Grew up together.
 
2013-08-04 02:34:30 PM  
Wow, Matt Smith totally had no idea who #12 was yet when he did that last interview.
 
2013-08-04 02:34:38 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Will be fun to see him reunite with Craig Ferguson. Grew up together.


They were in a punk band, which makes me want to see Ferguson doing punk.
 
2013-08-04 02:35:13 PM  
Peter Capaldi ?

encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com+ images.wikia.com = i41.tinypic.com
 
2013-08-04 02:35:24 PM  

BattleFrenchie28: Zombie DJ: Kinda disappointed they didn't go with a different look.
Tall, high hair and skinny....again.

Well, not like they can do a fat Doctor. How would he run?


You'd need to find a British John Belushi, but some fat people can move.

The new guy is 55!
 
2013-08-04 02:35:36 PM  

BattleFrenchie28: Zombie DJ: Kinda disappointed they didn't go with a different look.
Tall, high hair and skinny....again.

Well, not like they can do a fat Doctor. How would he run?


Antigravity belt?
 
2013-08-04 02:36:38 PM  

BattleFrenchie28: Zombie DJ: Kinda disappointed they didn't go with a different look.
Tall, high hair and skinny....again.

Well, not like they can do a fat Doctor. How would he run?


By eating all his celery.
 
2013-08-04 02:37:42 PM  

Zombie DJ: BattleFrenchie28: Zombie DJ: Kinda disappointed they didn't go with a different look.
Tall, high hair and skinny....again.

Well, not like they can do a fat Doctor. How would he run?

By eating all his celery.


Nobody has ever gotten fat eating lots of celery. Not in all time and space. It just doesn't happen.
 
2013-08-04 02:37:54 PM  

BattleFrenchie28: Zombie DJ: Kinda disappointed they didn't go with a different look.
Tall, high hair and skinny....again.

Well, not like they can do a fat Doctor. How would he run?


It would certainly put more wibbly-wobbly in show.
 
2013-08-04 02:37:58 PM  
CHANGE IS SCARY! THIS NEW LAYOUT IS HORRIBLE, ADMINS!
 
2013-08-04 02:38:46 PM  
So, the W.H.O. Doctor in World War Z will now play Doctor Who?
 
2013-08-04 02:38:57 PM  

Zombie DJ: BattleFrenchie28: Zombie DJ: Kinda disappointed they didn't go with a different look.
Tall, high hair and skinny....again.

Well, not like they can do a fat Doctor. How would he run?

By eating all his celery.


If he eats his celery, does he turn purple if he's poisoned?
 
2013-08-04 02:38:57 PM  

AtomPeepers: Zombie DJ: BattleFrenchie28: Zombie DJ: Kinda disappointed they didn't go with a different look.
Tall, high hair and skinny....again.

Well, not like they can do a fat Doctor. How would he run?

By eating all his celery.

Nobody has ever gotten fat eating lots of celery. Not in all time and space. It just doesn't happen.


abcnews.go.com
 
2013-08-04 02:39:09 PM  
sphotos-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net

HAHAHAHAHHA
 
2013-08-04 02:39:58 PM  
So, Peter Capaldi is a Doctor Who fanboy, Scottish, and previously appeared on the show.  I'm thinking Moffat & Co. really dropped the ball on this one.  They could have come out and said, "Fine, here's some hints as to who the new Doctor is going to be.  He's been on the show before, he's Scottish, and he's a huge fanboy."  Then everyone could shiat their pants thinking Tennant was coming back, only to hear the BBC announce Peter as the new Doctor.  Then Moffat could stroll out and say, "Who did you think we were talking about?"

MAXIMUM TROLLING.
 
2013-08-04 02:40:25 PM  
Everyone knows geek girls have lots of daddy issues so this change is geared toward them.
 
2013-08-04 02:41:22 PM  

BattleFrenchie28: Zombie DJ: Kinda disappointed they didn't go with a different look.
Tall, high hair and skinny....again.

Well, not like they can do a fat Doctor. How would he run?


Colin Baker. Argument invalid.
 
2013-08-04 02:42:21 PM  

Coco LaFemme: I've heard Peter Capaldi's name tossed around quite a bit as the odds-on favorite to be the 12th Doctor, so that's who I'll go with.  It certainly won't be Benedict Cumberbatch, he's too big of a name (though he is a natural ginger, and the Doctor always seems to despair that he's not), no matter how much I'd love to see him do it.  I think if he played the character with a touch of Sherlock's sociopathy, that would be very, very interesting.

Also, if I see one more "fan" demand that David Tennant come back, I'm going to reach through the computer screen and throttle them.  I loved David Tennant as the Doctor, I think he absolutely defined the role, not to mention the fact he's a stellar actor in everything else he's done, but come on.  The Doctor can't degenerate, no matter how much I'd love to see brown pinstripes and Chuck Taylors back in the TARDIS.  It's time to move forward.


Looks like you win
 
2013-08-04 02:42:23 PM  

AtomPeepers: Zombie DJ: BattleFrenchie28: Zombie DJ: Kinda disappointed they didn't go with a different look.
Tall, high hair and skinny....again.

Well, not like they can do a fat Doctor. How would he run?

By eating all his celery.

Nobody has ever gotten fat eating lots of celery. Not in all time and space. It just doesn't happen.


You do if you eat the previous Dr's jacket.
media.tumblr.com
 
2013-08-04 02:44:06 PM  

Outrageous Muff: Everyone knows geek girls have lots of daddy issues so this change is geared toward them.


You're confusing geek girls with strippers who wear glasses again.
 
2013-08-04 02:45:38 PM  

Zombie DJ: AtomPeepers: Zombie DJ: BattleFrenchie28: Zombie DJ: Kinda disappointed they didn't go with a different look.
Tall, high hair and skinny....again.

Well, not like they can do a fat Doctor. How would he run?

By eating all his celery.

Nobody has ever gotten fat eating lots of celery. Not in all time and space. It just doesn't happen.

You do if you eat the previous Dr's jacket.
[media.tumblr.com image 290x400]


images.tvnz.co.nz
 
2013-08-04 02:47:01 PM  

dopekitty74: Coco LaFemme: I've heard Peter Capaldi's name tossed around quite a bit as the odds-on favorite to be the 12th Doctor, so that's who I'll go with.  It certainly won't be Benedict Cumberbatch, he's too big of a name (though he is a natural ginger, and the Doctor always seems to despair that he's not), no matter how much I'd love to see him do it.  I think if he played the character with a touch of Sherlock's sociopathy, that would be very, very interesting.

Also, if I see one more "fan" demand that David Tennant come back, I'm going to reach through the computer screen and throttle them.  I loved David Tennant as the Doctor, I think he absolutely defined the role, not to mention the fact he's a stellar actor in everything else he's done, but come on.  The Doctor can't degenerate, no matter how much I'd love to see brown pinstripes and Chuck Taylors back in the TARDIS.  It's time to move forward.

Looks like you win


She's just in the final round. Now she needs to guess what his outfit is going to feature
 
2013-08-04 02:47:56 PM  
Here's hoping he kicks Claire out of the TARDIS with a "farkitybye!".
 
2013-08-04 02:47:57 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-08-04 02:48:38 PM  

Zombie DJ: AtomPeepers: Zombie DJ: BattleFrenchie28: Zombie DJ: Kinda disappointed they didn't go with a different look.
Tall, high hair and skinny....again.

Well, not like they can do a fat Doctor. How would he run?

By eating all his celery.

Nobody has ever gotten fat eating lots of celery. Not in all time and space. It just doesn't happen.

You do if you eat the previous Dr's jacket.
[media.tumblr.com image 290x400]


#7, Sylvester McCoy is only Doctor I skipped. I took a break from Colin Baker (ARGH! the outfit my eyes!)  until Eccleston re-invented the role in 2005.
 
2013-08-04 02:49:51 PM  

SithLord: [24.media.tumblr.com image 310x225]


Peter Griffin doesn't care?
 
2013-08-04 02:50:16 PM  

SithLord: [24.media.tumblr.com image 310x225]


Ahh, obviously you're lost. The Episode Seven wank thread is somewhere else.
 
2013-08-04 02:51:46 PM  
On the positive side, Tilda Swinson now can help out in the backcourt for the Cavs.
 
2013-08-04 02:52:48 PM  
I'm pretty happy about this, although Rufus Hound said, "Peter Eccleston" so I'm wondering if he almost blew it. Anyway, Peter Capaldi is older, which is what I wanted. He's also a lifelong fan of the show, as was Tennant, so that gives me hope. I didn't dislike Matt Smith, but I just didn't care about his Doctor. I loved Rory, and Amy was pretty cool. But Matt Smith's Doctor? Eh, whatevs.
 
2013-08-04 02:53:22 PM  

Coco LaFemme: So, Peter Capaldi is a Doctor Who fanboy, Scottish, and previously appeared on the show.  I'm thinking Moffat & Co. really dropped the ball on this one.  They could have come out and said, "Fine, here's some hints as to who the new Doctor is going to be.  He's been on the show before, he's Scottish, and he's a huge fanboy."  Then everyone could shiat their pants thinking Tennant was coming back, only to hear the BBC announce Peter as the new Doctor.  Then Moffat could stroll out and say, "Who did you think we were talking about?"

MAXIMUM TROLLING.


sylvester mccoy?

when welsh doctor, when?
 
2013-08-04 02:54:07 PM  

SithLord: [24.media.tumblr.com image 310x225]


I know, what kind of an asshat would look up a themed, ready made image macro and post it into a thread they don't care about?
 
2013-08-04 02:55:54 PM  
Huh, so who'll be older, Harnell in An Unearthly Child, or  Capaldi at Christmas?
 
2013-08-04 02:57:29 PM  
 
2013-08-04 02:57:46 PM  

sirbissel: Huh, so who'll be older, Harnell in An Unearthly Child, or  Capaldi at Christmas?


Hartnell by about two months.
 
2013-08-04 02:58:03 PM  

RminusQ: [media.tumblr.com image 500x333]

Previously on Doctor Who...


Making an otherwise unremarkable episode unique for having both a future companion and future Doctor
 
2013-08-04 02:59:02 PM  

Doomed: SithLord: [24.media.tumblr.com image 310x225]

Ahh, obviously you're lost. The Episode Seven wank thread is somewhere else.


Point being, why devote an entire broadcast show to announce the next actor to play the title character in a 50 year old serial drama whose sole point is that they can recast the title character with the simple in-universe explanation of reincarnation or soul redistribution to perpetually keep the show running forever.  Imagine if they did that with Jersey Shore.
 
2013-08-04 02:59:08 PM  
I still kind of wished it was Craig Ferguson or James Nesbitt, but I'm sure he will be a great Doctor.
 
2013-08-04 03:00:00 PM  

sirbissel: Huh, so who'll be older, Harnell in An Unearthly Child, or  Capaldi at Christmas?


By my quick math Hartnell by two or three months.
 
2013-08-04 03:00:05 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: sirbissel: Huh, so who'll be older, Harnell in An Unearthly Child, or  Capaldi at Christmas?

Hartnell by about two months.


4 month, close enough
 
2013-08-04 03:00:24 PM  

SithLord: Doomed: SithLord: [24.media.tumblr.com image 310x225]

Ahh, obviously you're lost. The Episode Seven wank thread is somewhere else.

Point being, why devote an entire broadcast show to announce the next actor to play the title character in a 50 year old serial drama whose sole point is that they can recast the title character with the simple in-universe explanation of reincarnation or soul redistribution to perpetually keep the show running forever.  Imagine if they did that with Jersey Shore.


Because you touch yourself at night.

Hey, new Law and Order UK, where Martha Jones works for the Fifth Doctor.
 
2013-08-04 03:00:29 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: sirbissel: Huh, so who'll be older, Harnell in An Unearthly Child, or  Capaldi at Christmas?

Hartnell by about two months.


...only Hartnell looked much older than he was.
 
2013-08-04 03:02:35 PM  

SithLord: Doomed: SithLord: [24.media.tumblr.com image 310x225]

Ahh, obviously you're lost. The Episode Seven wank thread is somewhere else.

Point being, why devote an entire broadcast show to announce the next actor to play the title character in a 50 year old serial drama whose sole point is that they can recast the title character with the simple in-universe explanation of reincarnation or soul redistribution to perpetually keep the show running forever.  Imagine if they did that with Jersey Shore.


Because Fark you, that's why.
3/10, because you'll get a few more bites
 
2013-08-04 03:03:49 PM  
William Hartnell        8 January 1908       23 November 1963    55 10 mos 15 days
peter capaldi           14 April 1958           25 december 2013    55 8 mos  11 days

my bad
 
2013-08-04 03:04:11 PM  
I hope they make him a real pervert, trying to get into the pants of all the young female companions who crushed on him since the reboot.
 
2013-08-04 03:06:08 PM  

CarnySaur: I hope they make him a real pervert, trying to get into the pants of all the young female companions who crushed on him since the reboot.


I hope he's an asexual who constantly talks about it as well as his love of animated anthromorphic ponies.
 
2013-08-04 03:07:09 PM  

FunkOut: CarnySaur: I hope they make him a real pervert, trying to get into the pants of all the young female companions who crushed on him since the reboot.

I hope he's an asexual who constantly talks about it as well as his love of animated anthromorphic ponies.


Sadly, I know a few people who actually think this.
 
2013-08-04 03:09:09 PM  

Bane of Broone: FunkOut: CarnySaur: I hope they make him a real pervert, trying to get into the pants of all the young female companions who crushed on him since the reboot.

I hope he's an asexual who constantly talks about it as well as his love of animated anthromorphic ponies.

Sadly, I know a few people who actually think this.


But if he has a cute, blonde, cross-eyed companion, I won't complain

fc08.deviantart.net
 
2013-08-04 03:09:12 PM  
pjmedia.com
 
2013-08-04 03:09:23 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: FirstNationalBastard: baka-san: Already had a 12th Doctor
*coughtrialofatimelordcough*
No, The Valeyard is an incarnation from between the twelfth Doctor and his final regeneration. That would make him Doctor 12.5.

If we want to play this game we can say that we arn't getting a 12th Doctor but a 11.5.



I hold that the Shalka Doctor is 11.5, created during the Great Intelligence's / Dr. Simeon's adventures in screwing with the Doctor's timeline in "The Name of the Doctor".  They have the same voice and fondness for winged collars.

Congratulations to Peter Capaldi, though.  He was good in "The Fires of Pompeii" and great in  Torchwood: Children of Earth.  I guess we know what Craig Ferguson will spend his entire show talking about on Monday night, between his love of  Doctor Who and his nearly life-long close friendship with Capaldi.  The main downside, to my mind, is that it pretty much dashes the dream I had of him guest-starring on  Veep; the show desperately needs Malcolm Tucker or someone like him, and it's what makes it so meh, compared to  The Thick of It. Maybe Jamie MacDonald can show up instead of Malcolm.
 
2013-08-04 03:10:02 PM  
Loving the comments about his age when the character of The Doctor travels about in time and is essentially ageless.

Capaldi is a fine, fine actor and if he brings even the slightest bit of Malcolm Tucker with him, it should be brilliant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MSScBIopM8
 
2013-08-04 03:12:19 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Bane of Broone: FunkOut: CarnySaur: I hope they make him a real pervert, trying to get into the pants of all the young female companions who crushed on him since the reboot.

I hope he's an asexual who constantly talks about it as well as his love of animated anthromorphic ponies.

Sadly, I know a few people who actually think this.

But if he has a cute, blonde, cross-eyed companion, I won't complain

[fc08.deviantart.net image 850x637]


I doubt it....

derpicdn.net
 
2013-08-04 03:13:57 PM  
So Lurch is the new Doctor? At least Moffat can finally retire his young/old man schtick.  Now he can move to his old/old man, too tired for this shiat schtick.
 
2013-08-04 03:20:22 PM  
William Dafoe, Juventus
 
2013-08-04 03:20:30 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: CarrieWhite: Strange they'd use Peter Capaldi  after him being in Torchwood.

Not really...

[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x384]


Who all am I looking at in this pic...
 
2013-08-04 03:20:33 PM  
After looking at his IMDB entry, what is the opening betting line that Peter Capaldi will be a one-and-done? I don't think that he will be able to move around as much with Doctor Who.
 
2013-08-04 03:23:28 PM  

Bane of Broone: FirstNationalBastard: Bane of Broone: FunkOut: CarnySaur: I hope they make him a real pervert, trying to get into the pants of all the young female companions who crushed on him since the reboot.

I hope he's an asexual who constantly talks about it as well as his love of animated anthromorphic ponies.

Sadly, I know a few people who actually think this.

But if he has a cute, blonde, cross-eyed companion, I won't complain

[fc08.deviantart.net image 850x637]

I doubt it....


It's like a girl and a boy.
 
2013-08-04 03:26:31 PM  
You can tell the hipster fans from the actual fans. On Facebook a lot of the hipsters are saying things like "ew a grandpa doctor!!!" Meanwhile most of the real fans are exuberant.

\still no cure for Moffat
 
2013-08-04 03:28:54 PM  

SithLord: [24.media.tumblr.com image 310x225]


THIS

I'd give Dr. Who a chance, but I watched a few episodes of the 70s version on PBS when I was a kid. It looked & still looks cheaply made. 
Also now that it's some kind of 'geek cred' thing I'm passing. Tired of the popular geek thing.
 
2013-08-04 03:34:23 PM  

bionicjoe: SithLord: [24.media.tumblr.com image 310x225]

THIS

I'd give Dr. Who a chance, but I watched a few episodes of the 70s version on PBS when I was a kid. It looked & still looks cheaply made. 
Also now that it's some kind of 'geek cred' thing I'm passing. Tired of the popular geek thing.


you look cheaply made...at least doctor who is worth paying attention to
 
2013-08-04 03:36:38 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: You can tell the hipster fans from the actual fans. On Facebook a lot of the hipsters are saying things like "ew a grandpa doctor!!!" Meanwhile most of the real fans are exuberant.

\still no cure for Moffat


^This
 
2013-08-04 03:48:45 PM  

mafiageek1980: whizbangthedirtfarmer: You can tell the hipster fans from the actual fans. On Facebook a lot of the hipsters are saying things like "ew a grandpa doctor!!!" Meanwhile most of the real fans are exuberant.

\still no cure for Moffat

^This


That.
 
2013-08-04 03:48:45 PM  
If someone told me that the Doctor would be an older male, who had already been in NuWho, I would have had a squeesploshion at the thought of it possibly being Anthony Stewart Head.

Just saying...
 
2013-08-04 03:51:35 PM  

Shadow Blasko: If someone told me that the Doctor would be an older male, who had already been in NuWho, I would have had a squeesploshion at the thought of it possibly being Anthony Stewart Head.

Just saying...


Well sure, everyone wants Head...
 
2013-08-04 03:56:20 PM  

bionicjoe: SithLord: [24.media.tumblr.com image 310x225]

THIS

I'd give Dr. Who a chance, but I watched a few episodes of the 70s version on PBS when I was a kid. It looked & still looks cheaply made. 
Also now that it's some kind of 'geek cred' thing I'm passing. Tired of the popular geek thing.


I don't know or care about "geek cred", I just enjoy the storylines and it's fun as hell to watch.  I don't care what the Doctor looks like as long as he is *the* Doctor.
 
2013-08-04 04:04:22 PM  

NeoCortex42: How much space does the whole series take up?


1963-1989 (including the special features and Shada, but excluding the  K-9 & Company pilot) takes up about 285.99 gigabytes. [look for the torrent labelled "Doctor Who - The Complete Classic 26 Seasons Collection + Extras"]  I don't have a total for K9 & Company, the PaulMcGann movie, the Richard E. Grant cartoon, nor the revived era. Besides, in the revived era, it would depend upon many factors, like HD versus SD; whether or not to include Torchwood; whether or not to include The Sarah Jane Adventures; whether or not to include K-9, et cet.


Serious Black:  River gave up all of her regenerations to bring the Doctor back to life. They can just say she gave those regenerations to him.

Or that the High Council granted him 13 more, or an unlimited number, or whatever during the Last Great Time War; they had given the Master more lives in exchange for his services, after all.
Or, as the self-proclaimed Time Lord Victorious, he has no such limitations.
Or that sealing Amy's crack (now  there's a good album title) re-set the limit to 13 more lives.
Or that the events of "The End of Time" gave him more/unlimited lives.
Or that the Great Intelligence's & Clara's screwings about  in his timeline somehow added more lives.
Or any other waives of the hand.
 
2013-08-04 04:09:06 PM  

bionicjoe: SithLord: [24.media.tumblr.com image 310x225]

THIS

I'd give Dr. Who a chance, but I watched a few episodes of the 70s version on PBS when I was a kid. It looked & still looks cheaply made. 
Also now that it's some kind of 'geek cred' thing I'm passing. Tired of the popular geek thing.


I hear ya. When Battlestar Galactica first aired in the 70s, it was cheaply made. So when SciFi made a new BSG, I didn't watch that because the one from 25 years earlier sucked.
 
2013-08-04 04:10:20 PM  
Excellent choice. This should be interesting.

Paging to this thread all the nitwits who bellyached about how the Doctor keeps getting younger, and who predicted someone young again. Come take your punishment, nitwits.
 
2013-08-04 04:12:21 PM  

bionicjoe: SithLord: [24.media.tumblr.com image 310x225]

THIS

I'd give Dr. Who a chance, but I watched a few episodes of the 70s version on PBS when I was a kid. It looked & still looks cheaply made. 
Also now that it's some kind of 'geek cred' thing I'm passing. Tired of the popular geek thing.


And yet here you both are, being assholes.
 
2013-08-04 04:12:54 PM  

Pentaxian: All this fuss about a new English doctor... maybe national health care isn't all that it's cracked up to be...


I think Peter Capaldi - along with Sylvester McCoy, Karen Gillan, and every other Scot who ever lived - would like to have a word with you. Sean Connery would probably drop you on your arse.
 
2013-08-04 04:13:59 PM  

Cheesehead_Dave: Wow, Matt Smith totally had no idea who #12 was yet when he did that last interview.


Don't think that's the case. In that same interview, he mentioned how the guy playing the next Doctor (Capaldi) approached him on the street the day after The Eleventh Hour was broadcast and complimented him on his portrayal. IIMO Smith was just being skittish about it lest he accidentally reveal somehow in the interview (though it had been recorded and edited).
 
2013-08-04 04:15:52 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: NeoCortex42: How much space does the whole series take up?

1963-1989 (including the special features and Shada, but excluding the  K-9 & Company pilot) takes up about 285.99 gigabytes. [look for the torrent labelled "Doctor Who - The Complete Classic 26 Seasons Collection + Extras"]  I don't have a total for K9 & Company, the PaulMcGann movie, the Richard E. Grant cartoon, nor the revived era. Besides, in the revived era, it would depend upon many factors, like HD versus SD; whether or not to include Torchwood; whether or not to include The Sarah Jane Adventures; whether or not to include K-9, et cet.


Serious Black:  River gave up all of her regenerations to bring the Doctor back to life. They can just say she gave those regenerations to him.

Or that the High Council granted him 13 more, or an unlimited number, or whatever during the Last Great Time War; they had given the Master more lives in exchange for his services, after all.
Or, as the self-proclaimed Time Lord Victorious, he has no such limitations.
Or that sealing Amy's crack (now  there's a good album title) re-set the limit to 13 more lives.
Or that the events of "The End of Time" gave him more/unlimited lives.
Or that the Great Intelligence's & Clara's screwings about  in his timeline somehow added more lives.
Or any other waives of the hand.


This.

People spend so much wasted energy on this non-issue.
 
2013-08-04 04:17:11 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: NeoCortex42: How much space does the whole series take up?

1963-1989 (including the special features and Shada, but excluding the  K-9 & Company pilot) takes up about 285.99 gigabytes. [look for the torrent labelled "Doctor Who - The Complete Classic 26 Seasons Collection + Extras"]  I don't have a total for K9 & Company, the PaulMcGann movie, the Richard E. Grant cartoon, nor the revived era. Besides, in the revived era, it would depend upon many factors, like HD versus SD; whether or not to include Torchwood; whether or not to include The Sarah Jane Adventures; whether or not to include K-9, et cet.


Serious Black:  River gave up all of her regenerations to bring the Doctor back to life. They can just say she gave those regenerations to him.

Or that the High Council granted him 13 more, or an unlimited number, or whatever during the Last Great Time War; they had given the Master more lives in exchange for his services, after all.
Or, as the self-proclaimed Time Lord Victorious, he has no such limitations.
Or that sealing Amy's crack (now  there's a good album title) re-set the limit to 13 more lives.
Or that the events of "The End of Time" gave him more/unlimited lives.
Or that the Great Intelligence's & Clara's screwings about  in his timeline somehow added more lives.
Or any other waives of the hand.


He bought a Groupon for 50% off new regenerations.
 
2013-08-04 04:21:56 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: People spend so much wasted energy on this non-issue.


The Doctor said he had unlimited regenerations when Matt Smith appeared in the Sarah Jane Adventures.
 
2013-08-04 04:24:44 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Hey, new Law and Order UK, where Martha Jones works for the Fifth Doctor.


That's a few years old.  She's been off the show for a couple of seasons.  She plays what is effectively the proto-Samantha on the Sex & The City prequel series, The Carrie Diaries. (i.e., sophisticated somewhat older, over-sexed Englishwoman in the publishing industry who mentors Carie).

Interestingly, all companions with a fondness for cawk, who travelled to olde-tyme New York City have American acting careers now. Moreover, both female regular companions who did so, have since done non-Who period pieces in NYC - Amy in the oddly coincidently titled film,  We'll Take Manhattan, set in the 1960s, and Martha in the 1980s-set  The Carrie Diaries.
 
2013-08-04 04:26:03 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: Pentaxian: All this fuss about a new English doctor... maybe national health care isn't all that it's cracked up to be...

I think Peter Capaldi - along with Sylvester McCoy, Karen Gillan, and every other Scot who ever lived - would like to have a word with you. Sean Connery would probably drop you on your arse.


Just leave it for the man himself (Bonus: Gandolfini)
 
2013-08-04 04:29:04 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: Sean Connery would probably drop you on your arse.


Connery can barely get out of his wheelchair at the moment.. But yeah, I agree with the sentiment.
 
2013-08-04 04:29:09 PM  
Finally, a Doctor who won't get all weepy after some London chav.

Already a huge improvement.
 
2013-08-04 04:36:49 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: NeoCortex42: How much space does the whole series take up?

1963-1989 (including the special features and Shada, but excluding the  K-9 & Company pilot) takes up about 285.99 gigabytes. [look for the torrent labelled "Doctor Who - The Complete Classic 26 Seasons Collection + Extras"]  I don't have a total for K9 & Company, the PaulMcGann movie, the Richard E. Grant cartoon, nor the revived era. Besides, in the revived era, it would depend upon many factors, like HD versus SD; whether or not to include Torchwood; whether or not to include The Sarah Jane Adventures; whether or not to include K-9, et cet.


Serious Black:  River gave up all of her regenerations to bring the Doctor back to life. They can just say she gave those regenerations to him.

Or that the High Council granted him 13 more, or an unlimited number, or whatever during the Last Great Time War; they had given the Master more lives in exchange for his services, after all.
Or, as the self-proclaimed Time Lord Victorious, he has no such limitations.
Or that sealing Amy's crack (now  there's a good album title) re-set the limit to 13 more lives.
Or that the events of "The End of Time" gave him more/unlimited lives.
Or that the Great Intelligence's & Clara's screwings about  in his timeline somehow added more lives.
Or any other waives of the hand.



I don't think whatever solves the regeneration limit has happened yet, because that removes a great storyline of the Doctor facing his mortality when we reach the end of the 12th Doctor's tenure. Since they are adding Hurt's incarnation in between 8 and 9, Smith to Capaldi is now technically the 12th regeneration, so that storyline would come at the end of his tenure, unless of course 10 fixing himself during Journey's End counted as a regeneration so you would have 11 thinking he is going to his final death in the Christmas special. Either way they do it, they are giving up what is potentially a good storyline in the Doctor getting to the end of his limit, and if he wants to try to find a loophole or not.
 
2013-08-04 04:39:06 PM  

AtomPeepers: [upload.wikimedia.org image 250x402]
Hai Guys!


pbs.twimg.com
 
2013-08-04 04:48:20 PM  
Cory Monteith
 
2013-08-04 04:54:59 PM  
So what exactly is the Doctor's deal when it comes to asexually creeping (which is tough to do) on his young companions?

Is there some backstory I've missed that explains his fetish?
 
2013-08-04 04:56:55 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: So what exactly is the Doctor's deal when it comes to asexually creeping (which is tough to do) on his young companions?

Is there some backstory I've missed that explains his fetish?


The BBC originally made DW as a childrens' program. They needed a reason to get the fathers watching as well -- ergo, young, attractive, female companions.
 
2013-08-04 05:03:17 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: So what exactly is the Doctor's deal when it comes to asexually creeping (which is tough to do) on his young companions?

Is there some backstory I've missed that explains his fetish?


But if you're asking for a in-story explanation -- I don't know. Perhaps The Doctor is just the quintessential alpha male that young, attractive women would like? Who knows.

/pun intended
 
2013-08-04 05:05:58 PM  
Moffat's recent comments that the River Song story is essentially complete worries me, in that it suggests that we'll never see what happened between her becoming baby Mels in NYC in January 1970 and her becoming her parents' childhood friend in the late 1990s.

Presumably, she went to NY for a reason, possibly because she knew her sixty-something-year-old parents were there (maybe adult River had told her that off-camera in Florida), or maybe just because it is a major air and shipping port from which it would be relatively easy to stow away to England. Did she meet up with Amy & Rory and let them rear her for a few years?  If so, how did they meet up in a city of 8 million (particularly since Rory having a little garden suggests that they lived in one of the outlying boroughs instead of Manhattan where she regenerated)?  Did adult River take her ahead in time via her vortex manipulator? Or did she cross the Atlantic, sneak into UNIT HQ, and take the TARDIS ahead, since the TARDIS knows who she is implied to feel somewhat maternal toward her? Maybe it was she who fixed the TARDIS for the Third Doctor, without him realising it.  Does Anthony know about her?
 
2013-08-04 05:11:55 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Is there some backstory I've missed that explains his fetish?


For that matter, how about his marriages to a pair of step-sisters, yet turning down the offer for the (non-simultaneous) mother-daughter combination?
 
2013-08-04 05:13:41 PM  

bostonguy: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: So what exactly is the Doctor's deal when it comes to asexually creeping (which is tough to do) on his young companions?

Is there some backstory I've missed that explains his fetish?

But if you're asking for a in-story explanation -- I don't know. Perhaps The Doctor is just the quintessential alpha male that young, attractive women would like? Who knows.

/pun intended


He must get off on not getting off. I'll be patient and await the next special Doctor Who: After Dark.
 
2013-08-04 05:15:13 PM  

Shadow Blasko: HopScotchNSoda: Sean Connery would probably drop you on your arse.

Connery can barely get out of his wheelchair at the moment.. But yeah, I agree with the sentiment.


He doesnt have to
 
2013-08-04 05:20:47 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: He must get off on not getting off. I'll be patient and await the next special Doctor Who: After Dark.


Hey, that reminds me, in "First Night" and "Last Night", he passed up the chance to be the meat in a River-River sandwich and in a River-River-River sandwich.  Given her parents' shared reaction to a second Amy in "Time", I'm pretty sure she'd have been totally up for it.
 
2013-08-04 05:24:38 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: Moffat's recent comments that the River Song story is essentially complete worries me, in that it suggests that we'll never see what happened between her becoming baby Mels in NYC in January 1970 and her becoming her parents' childhood friend in the late 1990s.


Didn't he also recently admit to "lying his arse off for months" about the 50th special? Someone along the line during the NYC filming for "The Angels Take Manhattan" Karen Gillan shot a scene in old age makeup based on her twitter comments at the time (which were a year after The Girl Who Waited" was filmed). I'm betting that at some point we wind up seeing an aged Amy Pond in the last two Matt Smith stories to tie up that plot point. There Ponds being in NYC at the same time young River was there is just too convenient for it not to pay off at some point.
 
2013-08-04 05:27:34 PM  

Mad_Radhu: HopScotchNSoda: Moffat's recent comments that the River Song story is essentially complete worries me, in that it suggests that we'll never see what happened between her becoming baby Mels in NYC in January 1970 and her becoming her parents' childhood friend in the late 1990s.

Didn't he also recently admit to "lying his arse off for months" about the 50th special? Someone along the line during the NYC filming for "The Angels Take Manhattan" Karen Gillan shot a scene in old age makeup based on her twitter comments at the time (which were a year after The Girl Who Waited" was filmed). I'm betting that at some point we wind up seeing an aged Amy Pond in the last two Matt Smith stories to tie up that plot point. There Ponds being in NYC at the same time young River was there is just too convenient for it not to pay off at some point.


I can only hope the "Amy Pond Story" is contained to Smith's Doctor, much as Rose was a Tennant Doctor thing.

Of course, the new Doctor would probably call her a farking wanker for waiting, so I can deal with that.
 
2013-08-04 05:30:12 PM  
It should have been Betty white
 
2013-08-04 05:30:18 PM  

AtomPeepers: Zombie DJ: AtomPeepers: Zombie DJ: BattleFrenchie28: Zombie DJ: Kinda disappointed they didn't go with a different look.
Tall, high hair and skinny....again.

Well, not like they can do a fat Doctor. How would he run?

By eating all his celery.

Nobody has ever gotten fat eating lots of celery. Not in all time and space. It just doesn't happen.

You do if you eat the previous Dr's jacket.
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#7, Sylvester McCoy is only Doctor I skipped. I took a break from Colin Baker (ARGH! the outfit my eyes!)  until Eccleston re-invented the role in 2005.


You missed two great episodes.  One of which was my all-time favorite "old-Who".
 
2013-08-04 05:33:38 PM  

Mad_Radhu: HopScotchNSoda: Moffat's recent comments that the River Song story is essentially complete worries me, in that it suggests that we'll never see what happened between her becoming baby Mels in NYC in January 1970 and her becoming her parents' childhood friend in the late 1990s.

Didn't he also recently admit to "lying his arse off for months" about the 50th special? Someone along the line during the NYC filming for "The Angels Take Manhattan" Karen Gillan shot a scene in old age makeup based on her twitter comments at the time (which were a year after The Girl Who Waited" was filmed). I'm betting that at some point we wind up seeing an aged Amy Pond in the last two Matt Smith stories to tie up that plot point. There Ponds being in NYC at the same time young River was there is just too convenient for it not to pay off at some point.



Six months earlier, there were, momentarily, six or seven Williamses/Ponds there at once - along with two Cantons.  The Doctor was the only person in the TARDIS when River splashed into the pool, who wasn't simultaneously elsewhere in or en route to NYC (although he was also elsewhere).  OK, in Amy's case, only one real Amy was in NY, as the one aboard the TARDIS was a Ganger. Still, Amy & Rory were 60-something residents of the city. Canton's days-younger self was a few stories above, having just tried to arrest River. Melody was either wandering about the city or was on her way there, and her adopted brother Anthony would have been about 25 years old. The Third Doctor was working for UNIT, and the TARDIS' younger self was non-functional.
 
2013-08-04 05:42:55 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: He must get off on not getting off. I'll be patient and await the next special Doctor Who: After Dark.

Hey, that reminds me, in "First Night" and "Last Night", he passed up the chance to be the meat in a River-River sandwich and in a River-River-River sandwich.  Given her parents' shared reaction to a second Amy in "Time", I'm pretty sure she'd have been totally up for it.


River had her own thoughts on things (paraphrased): "Two Doctors? The mind races at the possibilities...."
 
2013-08-04 05:53:55 PM  

OhioKnight: AtomPeepers: Zombie DJ: AtomPeepers: Zombie DJ: BattleFrenchie28: Zombie DJ: Kinda disappointed they didn't go with a different look.
Tall, high hair and skinny....again.

Well, not like they can do a fat Doctor. How would he run?

By eating all his celery.

Nobody has ever gotten fat eating lots of celery. Not in all time and space. It just doesn't happen.

You do if you eat the previous Dr's jacket.
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#7, Sylvester McCoy is only Doctor I skipped. I took a break from Colin Baker (ARGH! the outfit my eyes!)  until Eccleston re-invented the role in 2005.

You missed two great episodes.  One of which was my all-time favorite "old-Who".


More than two.  Ghost Light, Remembrance of the Daleks, The Happiness Patrol, The Curse of Fenric, and The Greatest Show in the Galaxy were all very good to excellent.

\except for the soundtrack
 
2013-08-04 05:54:36 PM  
I'd really like #12 to show up in the 50th... just because I think it'd be interesting to see a multi-Doctor story with a future Doctor.
 
2013-08-04 05:54:38 PM  

OhioKnight: AtomPeepers: 
#7, Sylvester McCoy is only Doctor I skipped. I took a break from Colin Baker (ARGH! the outfit my eyes!)  until Eccleston re-invented the role in 2005.

You missed two great episodes.  One of which was my all-time favorite "old-Who".



Agreed.Apart from his too frequent 'r'-rolling, the Seventh Doctor was pretty darn good.  He had secrets and manipulated people for his ends.

But even if not for the Seventh Doctor, then his serials are quite worth viewing at least for Ace.  Ace kicked serious ass - and was the first more-or-less openly sexual (and a bit less openly bi-sexual) companion before 2005.  She physically beat the snot out of a Dalek, and she blew up a Cyber landing craft with her home-made Nitro-9.

Among the insane Daleks who surrounded Oswin in the asylum (such as the special weapons Dalek) were ones who fought and lost to Ace & Seven at the Battle of Shoreditch, over the course of the two days immediately after the First Doctor left with Susan, Ian, and Barbara.

The Seventh Doctor and Sabalom Glitz also essentially swapped 'wives'. Mel (who had been originally introduced alongside Glitz in Trial of a Time Lord) dumped the Doctor to travel with the big, hairy, sweaty space smuggler; while his resentful ex-lover Ace (whose cork Glitz had popped previously) eagerly flew off with the "Professor".

Long before Luke Smith met his infant mother and watched his grandparents drive off to save her, Ace did that.  Long before (audience perspective) Jenny Flint had a beastial lesbian marriage to Vastra, Ace shared romantic feelings with Karra the cat girl.
 
2013-08-04 05:59:21 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: bionicjoe: SithLord: [24.media.tumblr.com image 310x225]

THIS

I'd give Dr. Who a chance, but I watched a few episodes of the 70s version on PBS when I was a kid. It looked & still looks cheaply made.
Also now that it's some kind of 'geek cred' thing I'm passing. Tired of the popular geek thing.

I hear ya. When Battlestar Galactica first aired in the 70s, it was cheaply made. So when SciFi made a new BSG, I didn't watch that because the one from 25 years earlier sucked.


If you didn't already have TF, I'd have sponsored you because of that comment
 
2013-08-04 06:02:00 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: HopScotchNSoda: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: He must get off on not getting off. I'll be patient and await the next special Doctor Who: After Dark.

Hey, that reminds me, in "First Night" and "Last Night", he passed up the chance to be the meat in a River-River sandwich and in a River-River-River sandwich.  Given her parents' shared reaction to a second Amy in "Time", I'm pretty sure she'd have been totally up for it.

River had her own thoughts on things (paraphrased): "Two Doctors? The mind races at the possibilities...."



She also told her dad when he jokingly suggested there could be two of him, "Now that would be a whole different kind of birthday."

She could have had a five-way like that in "Last Night".  There were three adult Rivers and two Eleventh Doctors.

The Doctor, being a bit of a prude, would have probably wanted to take the party rather deep into the TARDIS so as not to be discovered by Amy & Rory.  It's awkward enough being caught in bed with your gal by her parents; let alone with three of her and a second one of yourself.
 
2013-08-04 06:02:52 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: But even if not for the Seventh Doctor, then his serials are quite worth viewing at least for Ace. Ace kicked serious ass - and was the first more-or-less openly sexual (and a bit less openly bi-sexual) companion before 2005. She physically beat the snot out of a Dalek, and she blew up a Cyber landing craft with her home-made Nitro-9.


As I rewatch the Seventh Doctor and Ace, I realized that in almost all of the episodes, Ace beats the shiat out of something with a large stick, or otherwise blows it up.  Ghost Light=insect guys.  Greatest Show in the Galaxy=laser beam shootin' robot.  Remembrance of the Daleks=Dalek.
 
2013-08-04 06:02:56 PM  
This is what I want to see the 12th Doctor say at some point, preferably to a Dalek:

"I'm sorry, I know how sensitive you are to bad language, so I'll make it better for you.  You are boring as F-star-star-coont."

I have no idea how the fark I'm going to get Malcolm Tucker out of my head when I see him as the Doctor.
 
2013-08-04 06:04:17 PM  
Anyone else a little annoyed that with 30 minutes to fill in the announcement special, they didn't show us trailers for the 50th special or An Adventure in Space and Time? Those would have been much better than the mostly useless guests (Peter Davidson excepted).
 
2013-08-04 06:11:30 PM  

Jesus Farking Christ: This is what I want to see the 12th Doctor say at some point, preferably to a Dalek:
"I'm sorry, I know how sensitive you are to bad language, so I'll make it better for you.  You are boring as F-star-star-coont."
I have no idea how the fark I'm going to get Malcolm Tucker out of my head when I see him as the Doctor.



To Davros: "To fully convey the extent of my displeasure at your attempt to destroy the Earth, I'm likely to use what we would call 'violent sexual imagery'."

Of course, we were making these same comments years ago when Samuel L. Jackson was cast as Mace Windu.  "Which light sabre is yours?"  "It's the one that says 'bad mother farker' on it."  or "I've had it with these mother farking Sandpeople on this mother farking spaceship!"
 
2013-08-04 06:25:07 PM  
 
2013-08-04 06:26:56 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: George Zimmerman, the Springfield Isotopes


Um, it's the Albuquerque Isotopes
 
2013-08-04 06:29:37 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: OhioKnight: AtomPeepers: 
#7, Sylvester McCoy is only Doctor I skipped. I took a break from Colin Baker (ARGH! the outfit my eyes!)  until Eccleston re-invented the role in 2005.

You missed two great episodes.  One of which was my all-time favorite "old-Who".


Agreed.Apart from his too frequent 'r'-rolling, the Seventh Doctor was pretty darn good.  He had secrets and manipulated people for his ends.

But even if not for the Seventh Doctor, then his serials are quite worth viewing at least for Ace.  Ace kicked serious ass - and was the first more-or-less openly sexual (and a bit less openly bi-sexual) companion before 2005.  She physically beat the snot out of a Dalek, and she blew up a Cyber landing craft with her home-made Nitro-9.

Among the insane Daleks who surrounded Oswin in the asylum (such as the special weapons Dalek) were ones who fought and lost to Ace & Seven at the Battle of Shoreditch, over the course of the two days immediately after the First Doctor left with Susan, Ian, and Barbara.

The Seventh Doctor and Sabalom Glitz also essentially swapped 'wives'. Mel (who had been originally introduced alongside Glitz in Trial of a Time Lord) dumped the Doctor to travel with the big, hairy, sweaty space smuggler; while his resentful ex-lover Ace (whose cork Glitz had popped previously) eagerly flew off with the "Professor".

Long before Luke Smith met his infant mother and watched his grandparents drive off to save her, Ace did that.  Long before (audience perspective) Jenny Flint had a beastial lesbian marriage to Vastra, Ace shared romantic feelings with Karra the cat girl.


Good gravy, ,man! I'll have to queue up the McCoy years on the passion of your post alone! Alon Zeee'd'?!?
 
2013-08-04 06:35:59 PM  
I've got mixed feelings on the new Doctor, but I'm sure he will be good.

/went through the same thing with Matt Smith.
 
2013-08-04 06:47:54 PM  

Hebalo: mafiageek1980: whizbangthedirtfarmer: You can tell the hipster fans from the actual fans. On Facebook a lot of the hipsters are saying things like "ew a grandpa doctor!!!" Meanwhile most of the real fans are exuberant.

\still no cure for Moffat

^This

That.


And the other.
 
2013-08-04 06:53:49 PM  

NeoCortex42: drewogatory: rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: TheManofPA: rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: They need to release the complete Dr. Who on DVD.  As complete as possible at least.  Kind of like what they did with Dark Shadows recently.

This. Holy shiat that would be expensive though.

And would sell probably pretty well.

I'd buy the shiat out of it no matter how much it was (almost)

The Dark Shadows set lists for $600, I can imagine a Dr. Who set hitting 4 figures.

I have a buddy who built a custom Tardis external hd enclosure that houses every episode available on the net. Lights up, makes the noises etc. Geeks me out every time I see it.

How much space does the whole series take up?


Much less than you would think :)
 
2013-08-04 06:55:45 PM  

Rueened: NeoCortex42: drewogatory: rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: TheManofPA: rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: They need to release the complete Dr. Who on DVD.  As complete as possible at least.  Kind of like what they did with Dark Shadows recently.

This. Holy shiat that would be expensive though.

And would sell probably pretty well.

I'd buy the shiat out of it no matter how much it was (almost)

The Dark Shadows set lists for $600, I can imagine a Dr. Who set hitting 4 figures.

I have a buddy who built a custom Tardis external hd enclosure that houses every episode available on the net. Lights up, makes the noises etc. Geeks me out every time I see it.

How much space does the whole series take up?

Much less than you would think :)


It says 4 TB on the outside but actually holds 20 TB
 
2013-08-04 07:11:59 PM  

Gsm136: HopScotchNSoda: Pentaxian: All this fuss about a new English doctor... maybe national health care isn't all that it's cracked up to be...

I think Peter Capaldi - along with Sylvester McCoy, Karen Gillan, and every other Scot who ever lived - would like to have a word with you. Sean Connery would probably drop you on your arse.

Just leave it for the man himself (Bonus: Gandolfini)


Watching that led me to this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg-pnGFbwMQ

Apropos of nothing except Capaldi and sci-fi, but funny as hell all the same.
 
2013-08-04 07:20:10 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: Gsm136: HopScotchNSoda: Pentaxian: All this fuss about a new English doctor... maybe national health care isn't all that it's cracked up to be...

I think Peter Capaldi - along with Sylvester McCoy, Karen Gillan, and every other Scot who ever lived - would like to have a word with you. Sean Connery would probably drop you on your arse.

Just leave it for the man himself (Bonus: Gandolfini)

Watching that led me to this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg-pnGFbwMQ

Apropos of nothing except Capaldi and sci-fi, but funny as hell all the same.


Oops. Looks like  HopScotchNSoda beat me to it.
 
2013-08-04 07:22:25 PM  

Anderson's Pooper: Rueened: NeoCortex42: drewogatory: rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: TheManofPA: rpm: The All-Powerful Atheismo: They need to release the complete Dr. Who on DVD.  As complete as possible at least.  Kind of like what they did with Dark Shadows recently.

This. Holy shiat that would be expensive though.

And would sell probably pretty well.

I'd buy the shiat out of it no matter how much it was (almost)

The Dark Shadows set lists for $600, I can imagine a Dr. Who set hitting 4 figures.

I have a buddy who built a custom Tardis external hd enclosure that houses every episode available on the net. Lights up, makes the noises etc. Geeks me out every time I see it.

How much space does the whole series take up?

Much less than you would think :)

It says 4 TB on the outside but actually holds 20 TB


100wattwalrus.com
 
2013-08-04 07:24:28 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: She also told her dad when he jokingly suggested there could be two of him, "Now that would be a whole different kind of birthday."


You're mistaken. She implies that's already happened:

Rory: I've come from the Doctor too.
River Song: Yes, but at a different point in time.
Rory: Unless there's two of them.
River Song: No, that's a whole different birthday.
 
2013-08-04 07:30:24 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: HopScotchNSoda: She also told her dad when he jokingly suggested there could be two of him, "Now that would be a whole different kind of birthday."

You're mistaken. She implies that's already happened:
Rory: I've come from the Doctor too.
River Song: Yes, but at a different point in time.
Rory: Unless there's two of them.
River Song: No, that's a whole different birthday.


Good catch.

So, if you are the Eleventh Doctor and it's two of you and River, then it's not really gay if you touch the other one of yourself; I mean, it's basically like having an out-of-body masturbation experience.  But what about if there's been a regeneration between the two of yourself?
 
2013-08-04 07:34:09 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: 100 Watt Walrus: HopScotchNSoda: She also told her dad when he jokingly suggested there could be two of him, "Now that would be a whole different kind of birthday."

You're mistaken. She implies that's already happened:
Rory: I've come from the Doctor too.
River Song: Yes, but at a different point in time.
Rory: Unless there's two of them.
River Song: No, that's a whole different birthday.

Good catch.

So, if you are the Eleventh Doctor and it's two of you and River, then it's not really gay if you touch the other one of yourself; I mean, it's basically like having an out-of-body masturbation experience.  But what about if there's been a regeneration between the two of yourself?


You would have a threesome by yourself
 
2013-08-04 07:38:59 PM  
What happens to waste material in the TARDIS?  I don't mean just what the Doctor and his companions leave in the toilet or litter box, or whatever form the excretorium takes, but also the food waste from the kitchen, Adric's used Kleenexes [Kleenicies?], the waste water from the washing machine, and so-forth? Does it get ejected into oblivion? Metabolised by the TARDIS? Held in a tank and ejected at a convenient space-time?
 
2013-08-04 07:41:11 PM  

Piizzadude: So, if you are the Eleventh Doctor and it's two of you and River, then it's not really gay if you touch the other one of yourself; I mean, it's basically like having an out-of-body masturbation experience.  But what about if there's been a regeneration between the two of yourself?

You would have a threesome by yourself


No, what I mean is what if there has been a regeneration between the you that's you, and the other you? Like you are the Eleventh Doctor, and it's you, River, and the Twelfth Doctor.
 
2013-08-04 07:42:18 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: Moffat's recent comments that the River Song story is essentially complete worries me, in that it suggests that we'll never see what happened between her becoming baby Mels in NYC in January 1970 and her becoming her parents' childhood friend in the late 1990s.

Presumably, she went to NY for a reason, possibly because she knew her sixty-something-year-old parents were there (maybe adult River had told her that off-camera in Florida), or maybe just because it is a major air and shipping port from which it would be relatively easy to stow away to England. Did she meet up with Amy & Rory and let them rear her for a few years?  If so, how did they meet up in a city of 8 million (particularly since Rory having a little garden suggests that they lived in one of the outlying boroughs instead of Manhattan where she regenerated)?  Did adult River take her ahead in time via her vortex manipulator? Or did she cross the Atlantic, sneak into UNIT HQ, and take the TARDIS ahead, since the TARDIS knows who she is implied to feel somewhat maternal toward her? Maybe it was she who fixed the TARDIS for the Third Doctor, without him realising it.  Does Anthony know about her?


If nothing else, unless Moffat's lying, it shows that for all the fun he has with characters' timelines, deep down he doesn't know what the fark he's doing and doesn't care if it makes sense.

River has made it clear on at least one occasion that she's encountered many, if not all, of his incarnations. From "The Time of Angels":

<blockquote>
RIVER: So you don't know who I am yet? 
DOCTOR: How do you know who I am? I don't always look the same. 
RIVER: I've got pictures of all your faces. You never show up in the right order, though. I need the spotter's guide.
</blockquote>

So for her story to be done is pretty much wrong right there.

But furthermore, Moffat needs to account for everything you mention above, especially...

- How child Melody got to 1969 Florida
- How child Melody got from Florida to New York when already injured
- What happened to regenerated Melody between 1969 New York and 1990s Leadworth
- What happened to River (other than college) between the end of "Let's Kill Hitler" and being taken by Madam Kevorkian and placed in the space suit at the bottom of Lake Silencio

BTW, Mels was a terrible, incongruous, and very sloppy character, and the fact that Amy and Rory make no effort to recover their baby after Demon's Run is an unforgivably huge emotional plot hole.
 
2013-08-04 07:44:33 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: If nothing else, unless Moffat's lying, it shows that for all the fun he has with characters' timelines, deep down he doesn't know what the fark he's doing and doesn't care if it makes sense.


He's basically said as much in interviews for DWM.  He says things like "the great thing about the show is you can't make mistakes!"
 
2013-08-04 07:46:53 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: Piizzadude: So, if you are the Eleventh Doctor and it's two of you and River, then it's not really gay if you touch the other one of yourself; I mean, it's basically like having an out-of-body masturbation experience.  But what about if there's been a regeneration between the two of yourself?

You would have a threesome by yourself

No, what I mean is what if there has been a regeneration between the you that's you, and the other you? Like you are the Eleventh Doctor, and it's you, River, and the Twelfth Doctor.


Here's the especially weird and kinky part of that: Whichever Doctor was the elder in that threesome knew going in every detail of what was about to happen.

Although given the nature of the characters involved, I imagine what"really" happened was that she was visited on her the same birthday by two version of the Doctor at different times. She was twice boinked, but not as the meat in a Doctor sandwich.
 
2013-08-04 07:55:16 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: 100 Watt Walrus: If nothing else, unless Moffat's lying, it shows that for all the fun he has with characters' timelines, deep down he doesn't know what the fark he's doing and doesn't care if it makes sense.

He's basically said as much in interviews for DWM.  He says things like "the great thing about the show is you can't make mistakes!"


100wattwalrus.com
 
2013-08-04 07:58:36 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: whizbangthedirtfarmer: 100 Watt Walrus: If nothing else, unless Moffat's lying, it shows that for all the fun he has with characters' timelines, deep down he doesn't know what the fark he's doing and doesn't care if it makes sense.

He's basically said as much in interviews for DWM.  He says things like "the great thing about the show is you can't make mistakes!"

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WTF did Fark do to my animated GIF? Hang on...
 
2013-08-04 07:58:55 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: BTW, Mels was a terrible, incongruous, and very sloppy character, and the fact that Amy and Rory make no effort to recover their baby after Demon's Run is an unforgivably huge emotional plot hole.



She was also a character who, had it been an American show, would have generated screams of "Oh, noes! Racism!"

White Melody was a scared, innocent kid and yet resourceful enough to make her way from the greater Cocoa Beach area* to New York.  Adult white River, once she recovered from her regeneration and saving the Doctor's life, was a studious scholar, who although a bit rogue was loyal, brave, responsible, and otherwise someone whom you'd be glad to have on your side.  Black Mels, however, was a delinquent, a car thief, a bus thief, an armed hijacker, an obnoxious disruptive influence at school, and well on her way to a life in HM prisons instead of Stormcage.

*Heyyyyy, maybe Jeanie Nelson transported her with a snap of her head and a blink of her eyes.
 
2013-08-04 08:00:08 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: WTF did Fark do to my animated GIF? Hang on...


Oh, I guess it's just my browser. Carry on.
 
2013-08-04 08:01:10 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Mad_Radhu: HopScotchNSoda: Moffat's recent comments that the River Song story is essentially complete worries me, in that it suggests that we'll never see what happened between her becoming baby Mels in NYC in January 1970 and her becoming her parents' childhood friend in the late 1990s.

Didn't he also recently admit to "lying his arse off for months" about the 50th special? Someone along the line during the NYC filming for "The Angels Take Manhattan" Karen Gillan shot a scene in old age makeup based on her twitter comments at the time (which were a year after The Girl Who Waited" was filmed). I'm betting that at some point we wind up seeing an aged Amy Pond in the last two Matt Smith stories to tie up that plot point. There Ponds being in NYC at the same time young River was there is just too convenient for it not to pay off at some point.

I can only hope the "Amy Pond Story" is contained to Smith's Doctor, much as Rose was a Tennant Doctor thing.

Of course, the new Doctor would probably call her a farking wanker for waiting, so I can deal with that.


But Rose wasn't contained to Tennant's Doctor. Hell, the first episode of Nu-Who is named after her.
 
2013-08-04 08:07:42 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: 100 Watt Walrus: whizbangthedirtfarmer: 100 Watt Walrus: If nothing else, unless Moffat's lying, it shows that for all the fun he has with characters' timelines, deep down he doesn't know what the fark he's doing and doesn't care if it makes sense.

He's basically said as much in interviews for DWM.  He says things like "the great thing about the show is you can't make mistakes!"

[100wattwalrus.com image 400x250]

WTF did Fark do to my animated GIF? Hang on...


its gone, let it go
 
2013-08-04 08:08:56 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: Although given the nature of the characters involved, I imagine what"really" happened was that she was visited on her the same birthday by two version of the Doctor at different times. She was twice boinked, but not as the meat in a Doctor sandwich.


On the other hand, maybe there was an unseen scene within "Last Night" (like how "Time Crash" took place within what had appeared to be the final seconds of "Last of the Time Lords"), in which the two of them had a five-way.

Although I earlier said that the Doctor would have been embarrassed about possibly being discovered by Amy & Rory,

it occurs to me that River might well have actually wanted it to get weird that way. I can definitely imagine her trying to line up something with her then-best mates, sometime between when she stole the bus and got her parents together, and when she stole the car and hijacked the TARDIS.
 
2013-08-04 08:17:47 PM  

Hebalo: mafiageek1980: whizbangthedirtfarmer: You can tell the hipster fans from the actual fans. On Facebook a lot of the hipsters are saying things like "ew a grandpa doctor!!!" Meanwhile most of the real fans are exuberant.

\still no cure for Moffat

^This

That.


I love what Moffat has done.  Infinitely better than RTD.

/not sarcasm
 
2013-08-04 08:18:07 PM  
Matt Smith is going away! There is no way the new Doctor will ever be as bad as Smith. I'll be able to start watching the series again.
 
2013-08-04 08:23:16 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: 100 Watt Walrus: If nothing else, unless Moffat's lying, it shows that for all the fun he has with characters' timelines, deep down he doesn't know what the fark he's doing and doesn't care if it makes sense.

He's basically said as much in interviews for DWM.  He says things like "the great thing about the show is you can't make mistakes!"


If he actually planned things out in advance, then Mels and Brian would have been at the wedding at the head table, and Mels would have been Amy's maid of honour since she was her best mate. OK, maybe he would still have had to keep Mels away so that she wouldn't try to kill the Doctor right then and there, or maybe not; maybe she wouldn't have had the poison lipstick then because the Doctor didn't exist when she was getting dressed that morning and only returned to this universe when Amy remembered him after getting the diary. He also wouldn't have killed off Strax in AGMGTW, only to have to create that awkward mini-episode to recon him back to life.

Sure, he'll pull stuff from the old and non-canonical past, like Prof. Candy, Kate Stewart, the etymology of the word doctor having been from  the Doctor, et cet. but he does less multi-season planning than even  Battlestar Galactica or Lost had.
 
2013-08-04 08:31:10 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: What happened to River (other than college) between the end of "Let's Kill Hitler" and being taken by Madam Kevorkian and placed in the space suit at the bottom of Lake Silencio


I suspect that, even if Prof. Candy wasn't a member of the Silence (the movement, not the Edvard Munch  Scream-looking creatures), he was likely in league with them.  His views on the Doctor - as Moffat wrote in "Continuity Errors" long ago - are basically the same as theirs.  As her graduate advisor, he was merely another step in her preparation, training, and indoctrination.
 
2013-08-04 08:56:26 PM  

diaphoresis: Matt Smith is going away! There is no way the new Doctor will ever be as bad as Smith. I'll be able to start watching the series again.


I feel sorry for you.
 
2013-08-04 09:01:20 PM  

cduke23: The All-Powerful Atheismo: George Zimmerman, the Springfield Isotopes

Um, it's the Albuquerque Isotopes


For *I* am the MAYOR of  ALBUQUERQUE!!!
 
2013-08-04 09:08:23 PM  

bborchar: Hebalo: mafiageek1980: whizbangthedirtfarmer: You can tell the hipster fans from the actual fans. On Facebook a lot of the hipsters are saying things like "ew a grandpa doctor!!!" Meanwhile most of the real fans are exuberant.

\still no cure for Moffat

^This

That.

I love what Moffat has done.  Infinitely better than RTD.

/not sarcasm


I love what Moffat has done for the complexity of the narrative. I love his embracing of the wibbly-wobbly, and I like the increased complexity of the characters.

But he's gone off the rails. Series 7b was lifeless and disjointed. Even the Neil Gaiman episode stunk. Clara went from fascinating, sexy enigma to a bland everygirl whose personality changed with every script, and there was very little through-line for her arc. And, as noted above, it's just become clear that he doesn't give a damn if his stories make sense. Worse, in the last year or so, he's relinquished the complexity he brought to the series in favor of his stupid every-episode-as-a-movie-poster concept of plotting.

But I hope he will change direction once again with the 12th Doctor. I'll give him this: He's very good at changing tone and trajectory. I hope he and Capaldi return the show to the level of Series 5 (minus "Victory of the Daleks" and forgiving the ruining of the Angels) and Series 6 (forgiving the colossal, idiotic plot holes in "The Impossible Astronaut"/"Day of the Moon").
 
2013-08-04 09:26:55 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: so who else are they going to recycle from  fire of pompeii....


Well, not a person, but they keep re-using Temple Hall and other parts of Cardiff's Temple of Peace, both before and since that episode. Virtually all of "End of the World" was in there. So were the Face of Boe's scenes in "Gridlock", and the big Silurian meeting room in "Cold Blood". It was the restaurant in "Let's Kill Hitler" while one of the smaller rooms with the same parquet floor was Hitler's office and its exterior was the Reichstag exterior where the Williamses steal motorcycles from the SS. Most recently, it was in "Nightmare in Silver". The exterior has also been used numerous other DW & TW episodes.

The Coal Exchange may be in more episodes than the Temple of Peace, but at least its rooms are varied enough that it's not as obvious.
 
2013-08-04 09:33:41 PM  
At least it didn't turn out to be Rupert Grint or Jedward.

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-08-04 09:41:45 PM  

James72: Mike Chewbacca: bionicjoe: SithLord: [24.media.tumblr.com image 310x225]

THIS

I'd give Dr. Who a chance, but I watched a few episodes of the 70s version on PBS when I was a kid. It looked & still looks cheaply made.
Also now that it's some kind of 'geek cred' thing I'm passing. Tired of the popular geek thing.

I hear ya. When Battlestar Galactica first aired in the 70s, it was cheaply made. So when SciFi made a new BSG, I didn't watch that because the one from 25 years earlier sucked.

If you didn't already have TF, I'd have sponsored you because of that comment


Cheers, mate! bionicjoe's comment was just ridiculous. "I tried watching that old Lord of the Rings cartoon but it was crap, so I didn't bother watching Peter Jackson's LotR series." "I tried steak in the 70s but it was overcooked so when I had a chance to eat some steak in 2006, I said no thanks."
 
2013-08-04 10:32:45 PM  

Surool: 100 Watt Walrus: People spend so much wasted energy on this non-issue.

The Doctor said he had unlimited regenerations when Matt Smith appeared in the Sarah Jane Adventures.


The Doctor lies.

ts1.mm.bing.net
 
2013-08-04 11:07:57 PM  

Surool: 100 Watt Walrus: People spend so much wasted energy on this non-issue.

The Doctor said he had unlimited507 regenerations when Matt Smith appeared in the Sarah Jane Adventures.


FTFY.

/I suppose that's close enough


CL: Can you change color? or are you always white?
DW: No, I can be anything.
DW: [is always a white guy]
 
2013-08-04 11:08:47 PM  
Don't know the announced actor, and really didn't care for Matt Smith or Eccelston that much, but Tennant is my favorite since the Baker through Davidson era. Know that's not really that popular of an opinion, I just feel Tennant handled the character better than anyone had in years.
 
2013-08-04 11:19:37 PM  
I don't think history will look all that favorably on the Smith run as the Doctor.  For the life of me, I can't figure out what went wrong.  Smith is okay.  Moffat is okay.  Smith and Moffat together...aren't okay.  Not a terribly bad run.  Just a weak run.
 
2013-08-04 11:22:07 PM  

CarrieWhite: Strange they'd use Peter Capaldi  after him being in Torchwood.


They used Colin Baker after he played a prominent role in a 5th Doctor story as a completely unrelated character.

Hell, they used Lalla Ward after she played a prominent role; Romana explained it on-screen as "she liked the body" so much that she regenerated into it.

Capaldi was not only on Torchwood, he was back in explody-volcano-day episode with Tennant's 10th... and with Karen Gillan who later got cast as Amy Pond.

Reusing actors is not a big deal.
 
2013-08-04 11:42:51 PM  

gadian: I don't think history will look all that favorably on the Smith run as the Doctor.  For the life of me, I can't figure out what went wrong.


popcorninmyteeth.files.wordpress.com


/just saying... If nothing else, everyone can agree that 7a was ill advised and beating a dead horse.
//IMO, the jury is still out on Moffat. If the upcoming season turns into yet another year all about the new mostest specialest girl in all the universe, it's time for a showrunner.
 
2013-08-04 11:44:03 PM  

sirbissel: I'd really like #12 to show up in the 50th... just because I think it'd be interesting to see a multi-Doctor story with a future Doctor.


Agreed. It would be different, nigh heretical, but it's an aspect of The Doctor that would be nice to see even once.
 
2013-08-04 11:53:39 PM  

diaphoresis: Matt Smith is going away! There is no way the new Doctor will ever be as bad as Smith. I'll be able to start watching the series again.


Now that's just trolling Fate.
 
2013-08-05 12:38:00 AM  
First of all, regarding River Song's story, if any of you are really interested in 'what happened between such-and-such times' then you should check this out:  http://kickass.to/doctor-who-fan-edit-the-river-song-chronology-t7193 9 91.html

It's a fan edit that present River's story in HER chronological order, with some handy captions that help explain the way thing went. It's actually pretty handy if you have time and the interest in the character to watch all of it.

Second, add me to those who consider Seven and Ace to be an awesome duo who were unfortunately saddled with a few bad scripts. Ace is my favorite companion. She's just the right combination of post-punk, tomboy, and sexy bisexual Brit armed with explosives. I also think it's pretty cool that she's the only companion who rarely called The Doctor by his name, and instead referred to him as "professor."

They were implying during the Seven/Ace run that The Doctor was prepping Ace for something big-- possibly even teaching her to be a Timelady. The fact that she called him "professor" added to the idea that she saw him as a teacher, not just a friend. The Doctor hinted that there was a lot more to Dorothy than anyone else knew. After all, she ended up hurtling herself through time and space before she ever met The Doctor when she whipped up a Time Storm. She was a time traveler before The Doctor ever met her.

And she had a great ass, too. Really. Her butt looked quite nice in tight jeans. I was always happy to look at her every week.

I crushed on Ace. I admit it. I considered going to a convention just to meet Sophie Aldred and flirt with her. I never did it, but the fantasy ran through my mind at least a couple times.

However, it IS icky that they intended for Ace to have lost her virginity to Sabalom Glitz. Ewww. Girl shoots herself across time and space, and she ends up losing her cherry to the hairy, sweaty Doctor Who version of Harry Mudd? BLARGH.
 
2013-08-05 01:52:05 AM  

ZeroCorpse: First of all, regarding River Song's story, if any of you are really interested in 'what happened between such-and-such times' then you should check this out:  http://kickass.to/doctor-who-fan-edit-the-river-song-chronology-t7193 9 91.html
It's a fan edit that present River's story in HER chronological order, with some handy captions that help explain the way thing went. It's actually pretty handy if you have time and the interest in the character to watch all of it.


That's all well and good (but doesn't look like it includes her post-Library 'life' as shown in "The Name of the Doctor" and I don't know if it includes the mini-episodes.  Still, though, my point was there are important holes in her life that have not been filled. Yes, yes, I too volunteer to fill her important holes, but that's not what I mean.

---

Second, add me to those who consider Seven and Ace to be an awesome duo who were unfortunately saddled with a few bad scripts.

[cough, cough], the Kandyman, [cough]  The Happiness Patrol [cough]

---

Ace is my favorite companion. She's just the right combination of post-punk, tomboy, and sexy bisexual Brit armed with explosives.

Indeed:
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lh3.googleusercontent.com

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I also think it's pretty cool that she's the only companion who rarely called The Doctor by his name, and instead referred to him as "professor."

To be clear, neither Susan nor any of the K-9s usually called him "Doctor" either, Susan addressing him as "Grandfather", and all of the K9s called him "Master".  River uses "Doctor", but also "Sweetie" and other affectations.

---

They were implying during the Seven/Ace run that The Doctor was prepping Ace for something big-- possibly even teaching her to be a Timelady. The fact that she called him "professor" added to the idea that she saw him as a teacher, not just a friend. The Doctor hinted that there was a lot more to Dorothy than anyone else knew. After all, she ended up hurtling herself through time and space before she ever met The Doctor when she whipped up a Time Storm. She was a time traveler before The Doctor ever met her.

There was a multi-part webcast audio story in which she did become a Timelady, ''Death Comes to Time''. It wasn't all that good.

In some of the books, she becomes a space warrior, fighting Daleks and not bothering with the Doctor's niceties.  The cover art illustrations were based loosely on a costumed photo shoot from which these gems originated:
28.media.tumblr.com 3.bp.blogspot.com

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And she had a great ass, too. Really. Her butt looked quite nice in tight jeans. I was always happy to look at her every week.

Good rack, too:
3.bp.blogspot.com i193.photobucket.com

---

I crushed on Ace. I admit it. I considered going to a convention just to meet Sophie Aldred and flirt with her. I never did it, but the fantasy ran through my mind at least a couple times.

How about a companion sammich:
24.media.tumblr.com

---

However, it IS icky that they intended for Ace to have lost her virginity to Sabalom Glitz. Ewww. Girl shoots herself across time and space, and she ends up losing her cherry to the hairy, sweaty Doctor Who version of Harry Mudd? BLARGH.

Glitz, that greasy bastage, got all the prime trim. Peri was so moist for him in  The Mysterious Planet that she nearly slipped on the floor from her own secretions, and she ended up marrying the aesthetically similar King Yrcanos a few episodes later (maybe she had a fetish for hairy fat guys). Even though Mel was, on the one hand, disgusted by him (particularly in The Ultimate Foe) he was so compelling that she left the Doctor and the TARDIS to run away with Glitz in  Dragonfire.He probably sold her into slavery the next time he was broke and/or bored with her.  The script editing got rid of the  overt references to Glitz having broken Ace's maidenhead, but she certainly performed it as a clearly disgruntled former lover.
 
2013-08-05 02:47:58 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: Surool: 100 Watt Walrus: People spend so much wasted energy on this non-issue.

The Doctor said he had unlimited507 regenerations when Matt Smith appeared in the Sarah Jane Adventures.

FTFY.

/I suppose that's close enough


CL: Can you change color? or are you always white?
DW: No, I can be anything.
DW: [is always a white guy]


1) So far.

2) You have to keep in mind that this is a money-making franchise, and they do have to be at least somewhat careful in casting the role if for no other reason than to keep the licensing sterling rolling in.

I know that's a less-than-ideal fact, but it's a fact nonetheless. The most passionate "Doctor Who" audience is young, geeky white boys. People like to see themselves in their heroes, thus the Doctor is a intelligent oddball white guy.

If Capaldi's run is successful - if it's demonstrated that they're safe to branch out from the relatively young and handsome (well, British handsome) actors - the next time I would not be at all surprised to see a black Doctor. (If this happens, they'll certainly go younger than Capaldi.)

But you'll never see a woman in the role. Too much of a fundamental shift in the underlying dynamic of the show.
 
2013-08-05 03:33:35 AM  
you know it occurred to me they could've trolled everyone and announced John Simm as the new Doctor. Yes have the man who's the best Master be the Doctor, cause why the hell not?
 
2013-08-05 04:37:47 AM  

100 Watt Walrus: DW: [is always a white guy]

1) So far.


That was said by Smith's Doctor; his regeneration will also be a white guy.

100 Watt Walrus: ) You have to keep in mind that this is a money-making franchise


Well, duh. But using r/l excuses to hand-wave in-show stuff is lame.

The point is, in-show, he says he can be whatever he wants, yet consistently chooses to be a white male.
 
2013-08-05 05:15:18 AM  

WhyteRaven74: you know it occurred to me they could've trolled everyone and announced John Simm as the new Doctor. Yes have the man who's the best Master be the Doctor, cause why the hell not?


Because Anthony Ainley is dead.
 
2013-08-05 05:42:57 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: 100 Watt Walrus: DW: [is always a white guy]

1) So far.

That was said by Smith's Doctor; his regeneration will also be a white guy.

100 Watt Walrus: ) You have to keep in mind that this is a money-making franchise

Well, duh. But using r/l excuses to hand-wave in-show stuff is lame.

The point is, in-show, he says he can be whatever he wants, yet consistently chooses to be a white male.


While it is possible for Time Lords to choose their form during a willing regeneration (Romana), this has not yet ever been the case for any of the Doctor's on-screen regenerations (we don't yet know what the hell happened with the John Hurt incarnation).

When a Time Lord regenerates in the process of otherwise dying, he/she doesn't have the time or the energy available to pause and select a form. The Doctor has never  chosen to be a white male. He's just almost died, then found himself recovering in a new body.

An argument could be made (although no one ever has as far as I know) that under such circumstances, the body sticks to certain known parameters to make sure the process goes as smoothly as possible.

(Of course, taking that argument to its logical conclusion, one would have to wonder why the Doctor's body wouldn't just regenerate into the same form it was in already - Matt Smith, Mark II, so to speak. Plus, when Davison's Doctor says in "Castrovalva" "That's the trouble with regeneration -- you never know what you're going to get," and in Eccleston's regeneration scene he says "I might have two heads, or no head. It's a bit dodgy, this process. You never know what you're going to end up with." But let's not go down that rabbit hole.)
 
2013-08-05 05:44:08 AM  

Tax Boy: [img.fark.net image 288x432]
[img.fark.net image 850x531]

* TARDIS cloister bell rings *

WHO'S THAT AT THE DOOR?

[freshalmighty.com image 850x566]


Why would they go for the drummer when they could get the lead singer.
www.rsanews.com
 
2013-08-05 06:14:11 AM  
Surprisingly little biatching that the new, good Doctor isn't black, or a chick, or anything other than a white guy. Given the rampant wishlisting for a nonsense diversity-rainbow Doctor prior to the announcement. Although it IS amusing to see the whining across various boards and social media that the new Doctor is "soooo old". It's almost like there's a geek chic bandwagon based on the Doctor being young and cute or something.

NuWho. Snert.

/nuwho is goddamned preachy pandering, but not as badly as it could be
 
2013-08-05 06:21:33 AM  

robohobo: Surprisingly little biatching that the new, good Doctor isn't black, or a chick, or anything other than a white guy. Given the rampant wishlisting for a nonsense diversity-rainbow Doctor prior to the announcement. Although it IS amusing to see the whining across various boards and social media that the new Doctor is "soooo old". It's almost like there's a geek chic bandwagon based on the Doctor being young and cute or something.

NuWho. Snert.

/nuwho is goddamned preachy pandering, but not as badly as it could be


You sound white. Very, very white.
 
2013-08-05 06:22:17 AM  

ADHD Librarian: Tax Boy: [img.fark.net image 288x432]
[img.fark.net image 850x531]

* TARDIS cloister bell rings *

WHO'S THAT AT THE DOOR?

[freshalmighty.com image 850x566]

Why would they go for the drummer when they could get the lead singer.
[www.rsanews.com image 634x461]


Fantastic find!
 
2013-08-05 06:28:48 AM  

robohobo: It's almost like there's a geek chic bandwagon based on the Doctor being young and cute or something.


Behold: http://12thdoctorbutthurt.tumblr.com/ (NSFW language)
 
2013-08-05 06:35:46 AM  

100 Watt Walrus: robohobo: Surprisingly little biatching that the new, good Doctor isn't black, or a chick, or anything other than a white guy. Given the rampant wishlisting for a nonsense diversity-rainbow Doctor prior to the announcement. Although it IS amusing to see the whining across various boards and social media that the new Doctor is "soooo old". It's almost like there's a geek chic bandwagon based on the Doctor being young and cute or something.

NuWho. Snert.

/nuwho is goddamned preachy pandering, but not as badly as it could be

You sound white. Very, very white.


Oh, boo hoo.

avalanche: robohobo: It's almost like there's a geek chic bandwagon based on the Doctor being young and cute or something.

Behold: http://12thdoctorbutthurt.tumblr.com/ (NSFW language)


Farking hilarious. "Moffat is racist, sexist, homophobic, and an animal abuser because he didn't make the Doctor a gay transgendered black anthropomorphic dog woman from a 3rd world country." lulz. And it perfectly describes the little biatches whining about Capaldi.
 
2013-08-05 06:39:33 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: CL: Can you change color? or are you always white?
DW: No, I can be anything.
DW: [is always a white guy]


According to Neil Gaiman the role has been offered to a black guy, and he turned it down.

So, basically, shut the fark up about shiat you don't know about?
 
2013-08-05 06:41:58 AM  

avalanche: robohobo: It's almost like there's a geek chic bandwagon based on the Doctor being young and cute or something.

Behold: http://12thdoctorbutthurt.tumblr.com/ (NSFW language)


Wrath of the Tennant fangirls.

/I think Davison and Tennant have been the only "heartthrob" Doctors. A "pretty" Doctor is an aberration, not a requirement.
 
2013-08-05 06:45:14 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: avalanche: robohobo: It's almost like there's a geek chic bandwagon based on the Doctor being young and cute or something.

Behold: http://12thdoctorbutthurt.tumblr.com/ (NSFW language)

Wrath of the Tennant fangirls.

/I think Davison and Tennant have been the only "heartthrob" Doctors. A "pretty" Doctor is an aberration, not a requirement.


Also fanboys, And fanthings. Musn't forget to be inclusive. Remember, a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of fans aren't normal folk, and they DEMAND to be heard and normalized.
 
2013-08-05 06:56:35 AM  

if_i_really_have_to: ArcadianRefugee: CL: Can you change color? or are you always white?
DW: No, I can be anything.
DW: [is always a white guy]

According to Neil Gaiman the role has been offered to a black guy, and he turned it down.

So, basically, shut the fark up about shiat you don't know about?


Put down the crack pipe.

So, a black actor turned down the role, thus disproving that the role is always played by a white actor.

Your logic is impeccable.
 
2013-08-05 10:14:05 AM  

bborchar: Hebalo: mafiageek1980: whizbangthedirtfarmer: You can tell the hipster fans from the actual fans. On Facebook a lot of the hipsters are saying things like "ew a grandpa doctor!!!" Meanwhile most of the real fans are exuberant.

\still no cure for Moffat

^This

That.

I love what Moffat has done.  Infinitely better than RTD.

/not sarcasm


Agreed. Moffat's story lines are better than RTD. His use of time and consequences add a great layer to an already great story.

RTD was good but moffat is a superior story teller.

And a lot of you don't know what a plot hole is. A plot hole is not something missing. A plot hole is where the plot directly contradicts itself. A see a lot of people in this thread claiming moffat has too many plot holes because they didn't see something on screen. That's not a plot hole. That just means it wasn't on screen.
 
2013-08-05 10:20:17 AM  

100 Watt Walrus: bborchar: Hebalo: mafiageek1980: whizbangthedirtfarmer: You can tell the hipster fans from the actual fans. On Facebook a lot of the hipsters are saying things like "ew a grandpa doctor!!!" Meanwhile most of the real fans are exuberant.

\still no cure for Moffat

^This

That.

I love what Moffat has done.  Infinitely better than RTD.

/not sarcasm

I love what Moffat has done for the complexity of the narrative. I love his embracing of the wibbly-wobbly, and I like the increased complexity of the characters.

But he's gone off the rails. Series 7b was lifeless and disjointed. Even the Neil Gaiman episode stunk. Clara went from fascinating, sexy enigma to a bland everygirl whose personality changed with every script, and there was very little through-line for her arc. And, as noted above, it's just become clear that he doesn't give a damn if his stories make sense. Worse, in the last year or so, he's relinquished the complexity he brought to the series in favor of his stupid every-episode-as-a-movie-poster concept of plotting.

But I hope he will change direction once again with the 12th Doctor. I'll give him this: He's very good at changing tone and trajectory. I hope he and Capaldi return the show to the level of Series 5 (minus "Victory of the Daleks" and forgiving the ruining of the Angels) and Series 6 (forgiving the colossal, idiotic plot holes in "The Impossible Astronaut"/"Day of the Moon").


That doesn't even make sense. You say you like the new complexities but then trash the impossible astronaut. Season 6 was Moffat's crowning moment. It kept everyone glued to the TV to see how the hell he was going to save the doctor from death. And let's give him some credit. He covered any major plot hole to the point where the story is congruent. People can at least plot all of season 6 on a time line and it makes sense. There are shows with gigantic plot issues but dr who season 6 was certainly not one of them.
 
2013-08-05 10:30:12 AM  
We are through the looking glass. First there were complaints of Matt Smith being too young and now Peter Capaldi is too old. BS. Besides, this same crowd probably wanted a black/female/gay Doctor but now it's discriminating on age to boot?

I don't believe Capaldi is too old to play The Doctor. That said, the mean age for a new Doctor is 40, making Tom Baker, Colin Baker, and Chris Eccleston your average aged Doctors. Capaldi skews it to 42 once he starts. Might as well shoot for that with the 13th, but goddammit let's try not to talk about the 13th Doctor at all until Capaldi is officially stepping down.

And given the average run, we should be able to do just that by 2017.
 
2013-08-05 10:51:26 AM  

enforcerpsu: bborchar: Hebalo: mafiageek1980: whizbangthedirtfarmer: You can tell the hipster fans from the actual fans. On Facebook a lot of the hipsters are saying things like "ew a grandpa doctor!!!" Meanwhile most of the real fans are exuberant.

\still no cure for Moffat

^This

That.

I love what Moffat has done.  Infinitely better than RTD.

/not sarcasm

Agreed. Moffat's story lines are better than RTD. His use of time and consequences add a great layer to an already great story.

RTD was good but moffat is a superior story teller.

And a lot of you don't know what a plot hole is. A plot hole is not something missing. A plot hole is where the plot directly contradicts itself. A see a lot of people in this thread claiming moffat has too many plot holes because they didn't see something on screen. That's not a plot hole. That just means it wasn't on screen.



WAT?
You miss RTD and his masturbatory paving-stone pilot-lines?

/Sarcasm
 
2013-08-05 11:16:24 AM  

enforcerpsu: 100 Watt Walrus: bborchar: Hebalo: mafiageek1980: whizbangthedirtfarmer: You can tell the hipster fans from the actual fans. On Facebook a lot of the hipsters are saying things like "ew a grandpa doctor!!!" Meanwhile most of the real fans are exuberant.

\still no cure for Moffat

^This

That.

I love what Moffat has done.  Infinitely better than RTD.

/not sarcasm

I love what Moffat has done for the complexity of the narrative. I love his embracing of the wibbly-wobbly, and I like the increased complexity of the characters.

But he's gone off the rails. Series 7b was lifeless and disjointed. Even the Neil Gaiman episode stunk. Clara went from fascinating, sexy enigma to a bland everygirl whose personality changed with every script, and there was very little through-line for her arc. And, as noted above, it's just become clear that he doesn't give a damn if his stories make sense. Worse, in the last year or so, he's relinquished the complexity he brought to the series in favor of his stupid every-episode-as-a-movie-poster concept of plotting.

But I hope he will change direction once again with the 12th Doctor. I'll give him this: He's very good at changing tone and trajectory. I hope he and Capaldi return the show to the level of Series 5 (minus "Victory of the Daleks" and forgiving the ruining of the Angels) and Series 6 (forgiving the colossal, idiotic plot holes in "The Impossible Astronaut"/"Day of the Moon").

That doesn't even make sense. You say you like the new complexities but then trash the impossible astronaut. Season 6 was Moffat's crowning moment. It kept everyone glued to the TV to see how the hell he was going to save the doctor from death. And let's give him some credit. He covered any major plot hole to the point where the story is congruent. People can at least plot all of season 6 on a time line and it makes sense. There are shows with gigantic plot issues but dr who season 6 was certainly not one of them.


I think Season 6 serves as an arguable dividing line in the quality of Moffatt's run so far. Season 6a and earlier was Moffatt firing on all cylinders. Season 6b and on is Moffatt off the rails.

I think the key problem is that in S5 and S6a, Moffatt raised DW's season arc standards. Before him, RTD would make light references here, introduce ingredients there, and it all came together in the finale. Moffatt integrated the season arc into the plot of the week and added plot twists along the way. It worked well in S5. He ramped things up with Season 6a by having more plotlines running through the season. They were integrated into episodes of the week and had plot twists but they also intersected. It really was good stuff that kept us in suspense from week to week.

But most of those plotlines resolved by the beginning of S6b and it felt flat from then on. The mystery of River Song was solved, Amy had Melody, she and Rory found Melody, and The Silence was largely dealt with. All that was left was the Death of The Doctor, which wouldn't resolve until the finale and played out more like a RTD finale.

Season 7 continued this. 7a had very little in the ways of season arc. They were like the Tennant specials of 2009 but for The Ponds. 7b had The Impossible Girl which was a flat storyline which only teased but never had twists or actually amounted to anything in a plot of the week. That's what really sucked about Season 7. I'm fine with the episodic, "blockbuster" idea if not always in execution, but imagine if "The Impossible Girl" story arc was more integrated into the departure of The Ponds.

What if Clara/Oswin returned in "A Town Called Mercy" as a local who sacrifices herself to save The Doctor instead of Sheriff Crichton? It would fit for her character in hindsight and start the "Impossible Girl" arc earlier. The Doctor could have been bored during TPOT because of that same mystery he would be obsessed with later. He wants to solve it but The Ponds are mystified by what he's talking about as they move on with their lives.

The Doctor's search leads him to Manhattan, where he meets Clara/Oswin again, but of course she gets nabbed by an angel and dies. Then The Doctor, in his obsession, gets sloppy and it leads to losing Amy and Rory. Or hell, what if it was The Great Intelligence that tipped off the Angels, thus introducing it to the season?

I think those are simple ways S7 could have been better, if only for S7a. Season 7b? Why couldn't The Doctor and Clara have run into... another Clara/Oswin? Why couldn't The Great Intelligence have virtually hijacked an episode or teamed up with the monster/villain of the week at least once?

I'm sure others can come up with small ways S7 could have been made more interesting, but there's a few ideas of mine.
 
2013-08-05 11:31:22 AM  

enforcerpsu: He covered any major plot hole to the point where the story is congruent.


Please tell me how the story arc of an alien cult kidnapping a kid to raise as their own, watching her escape, then recapture her, then putting her in an astronaut's suit under a lake to shoot the Doctor, then the Doctor figures this out, somehow decides to force humanity to commit genocide on the creatures, and then marrying the girl who tried to shoot him to repair the universe is in any way "congruent."

I call it befuddled and ridiculous.

\let's face it, Moffat's scripts are pretty on the inside, but don't hold up to the slightest scrutiny
\\ditto with Sherlock = pretty, but inane
 
2013-08-05 03:17:45 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: enforcerpsu: He covered any major plot hole to the point where the story is congruent.

Please tell me how the story arc of an alien cult kidnapping a kid to raise as their own, watching her escape, then recapture her, then putting her in an astronaut's suit under a lake to shoot the Doctor, then the Doctor figures this out, somehow decides to force humanity to commit genocide on the creatures, and then marrying the girl who tried to shoot him to repair the universe is in any way "congruent."

I call it befuddled and ridiculous.

\let's face it, Moffat's scripts are pretty on the inside, but don't hold up to the slightest scrutiny
\\ditto with Sherlock = pretty, but inane


If you took a moment to understand it instead of just talking...you might understand it. All of this stuff happens over 100s of years.
 
2013-08-05 03:40:38 PM  

enforcerpsu: whizbangthedirtfarmer: enforcerpsu: He covered any major plot hole to the point where the story is congruent.

Please tell me how the story arc of an alien cult kidnapping a kid to raise as their own, watching her escape, then recapture her, then putting her in an astronaut's suit under a lake to shoot the Doctor, then the Doctor figures this out, somehow decides to force humanity to commit genocide on the creatures, and then marrying the girl who tried to shoot him to repair the universe is in any way "congruent."

I call it befuddled and ridiculous.

\let's face it, Moffat's scripts are pretty on the inside, but don't hold up to the slightest scrutiny
\\ditto with Sherlock = pretty, but inane

If you took a moment to understand it instead of just talking...you might understand it. All of this stuff happens over 100s of years.


You missed the point.  That is the most convoluted plot point, and you're relying on "it happens over time!" thing, which, in itself, makes no sense (and it also didn't really happen over centuries). Tell me why the Silence, then, brought in Amy's daughter?  And why they put her at the bottom of a lake?  And why she was wearing an astronaut's suit?  And, biggest of all, how the Doctor condoned genocide?  All of these questions don't have clear answers, and never will.  Like "the impossible girl," Moffat just likes the sound of "the impossible astronaut".
 
2013-08-05 04:44:41 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: enforcerpsu: whizbangthedirtfarmer: enforcerpsu: He covered any major plot hole to the point where the story is congruent.

Please tell me how the story arc of an alien cult kidnapping a kid to raise as their own, watching her escape, then recapture her, then putting her in an astronaut's suit under a lake to shoot the Doctor, then the Doctor figures this out, somehow decides to force humanity to commit genocide on the creatures, and then marrying the girl who tried to shoot him to repair the universe is in any way "congruent."

I call it befuddled and ridiculous.

\let's face it, Moffat's scripts are pretty on the inside, but don't hold up to the slightest scrutiny
\\ditto with Sherlock = pretty, but inane

If you took a moment to understand it instead of just talking...you might understand it. All of this stuff happens over 100s of years.

You missed the point.  That is the most convoluted plot point, and you're relying on "it happens over time!" thing, which, in itself, makes no sense (and it also didn't really happen over centuries). Tell me why the Silence, then, brought in Amy's daughter?  And why they put her at the bottom of a lake?  And why she was wearing an astronaut's suit?  And, biggest of all, how the Doctor condoned genocide?  All of these questions don't have clear answers, and never will.  Like "the impossible girl," Moffat just likes the sound of "the impossible astronaut".


This.

The worst parts of the "The Impossible Astronaut"/"Day of the Moon" arc for me tho is the beginning of "Day of the Moon," in which Amy, Rory, and River are being fake hunted down by Delaware. Among the myriad other problems with the plot at that point is that it's never explained why anyone would want them hunted down at that point, who ordered the hunting, why they're being killed instead of captured, and for whose benefit their deaths are being faked. And don't even get me started on the imprisonment of the Doctor. Moffat just wanted a particular set of circumstances, and a particular couple of set pieces (e.g., Amy being chased through the desert), and he didn't give a single fark how he got the characters there. He just threw together a few flashbacks and slapped a "three months later" title card on the screen. It was a sign of things to come from Moffat.

And I'm right there with you on "Sherlock." For the most part, those stories don't stand up to even a modicum of intellectual scrutiny. The leads are brilliant (and brilliantly cast), and the storytelling is unique and compelling enough to make them fun to watch. But if your Sherlock farking Holmes story requires the viewer to check his/her brain at the door, you've utterly failed to write a good Sherlock Holmes story.
 
2013-08-05 07:54:03 PM  

ZeroCorpse: First of all, regarding River Song's story, if any of you are really interested in 'what happened between such-and-such times' then you should check this out:  http://kickass.to/doctor-who-fan-edit-the-river-song-chronology-t7193 9 91.html

It's a fan edit that present River's story in HER chronological order, with some handy captions that help explain the way thing went. It's actually pretty handy if you have time and the interest in the character to watch all of it.



Thanks. I downloaded that, and the separately torrented new part 6 (her post-upload 'life' in "The Name of the Doctor").

It was well done, and something I had considered doing myself. I liked the momentary captions for Amy, Rory and the Doctor, whenever a new point in their lives occurs, showing how many years it is for them until or since Demon's Run.

In addition to some editing discontinuities with the material from "The Wedding of River Song" and "The Name of the Doctor", and leaving out "Good Night" (River was off-camera at the start of it), it had one rather significant chronology error: He put "The Pandorica Opens"/"The Big Bang" several stories too late.

From River's perspective, those two episodes (with the possible exception of her parents' wedding reception) occurred during the first five years of her sentence;  i.e., between her younger two selves in "First Night"/"Last Night". It was at the beginning of "The Pandorica Opens" that she extorted the vortex manipulator from Dorium Moldovar. That particular scene was missing, so that would explain the editor's confusion. Did it get cut on BBCA maybe?

I would also argue that adult River at the beginning of "A Good Man Goes to War" had already lived through her arrival and reveal at the end of the episode.

Re-watching the scenes of her at the end of "The Pandorica Opens" confirmed for me that, even though Moffat and Kingston knew that River was Amy & Rory's daughter, he had not yet decided to make her their childhood best mate. River was surprised by Amelia's collection of TARDIS sculptures & Raggedy Doctor dolls, sighing about the impact the Doctor unwittingly had on the girl. She then proceeded to search through Amelia's books, not as one who had not seen them for years, but as one who had never been in the room before.
 
2013-08-05 09:49:28 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: It was well done, and something I had considered doing myself. I liked the momentary captions for Amy, Rory and the Doctor, whenever a new point in their lives occurs, showing how many years it is for them until or since Demon's Run.

In addition to some editing discontinuities with the material from "The Wedding of River Song" and "The Name of the Doctor", and leaving out "Good Night" (River was off-camera at the start of it), it had one rather significant chronology error: He put "The Pandorica Opens"/"The Big Bang" several stories too late.

From River's perspective, those two episodes (with the possible exception of her parents' wedding reception) occurred during the first five years of her sentence;  i.e., between her younger two selves in "First Night"/"Last Night". It was at the beginning of "The Pandorica Opens" that she extorted the vortex manipulator from Dorium Moldovar. That particular scene was missing, so that would explain the editor's confusion. Did it get cut on BBCA maybe?

I would also argue that adult River at the beginning of "A Good Man Goes to War" had already lived through her arrival and reveal at the end of the episode.

Re-watching the scenes of her at the end of "The Pandorica Opens" confirmed for me that, even though Moffat and Kingston knew that River was Amy & Rory's daughter, he had not yet decided to make her their childhood best mate. River was surprised by Amelia's collection of TARDIS sculptures & Raggedy Doctor dolls, sighing about the impact the Doctor unwittingly had on the girl. She then proceeded to search through Amelia's books, not as one who had not seen them for years, but as one who had never been in the room before.


Agree with all of this except River at the beginning of "Good Man" having already lived through her visit to Demon's run. That could be the case, but I don't know that there's any evidence pointing to it being so.

You're 100% right about River's visit to Amy's room in "Pandorica." The whole Mels thing was pulled out of Moffat's ass and crowbarred into River's timeline. It seems obvious to me that Moffat didn't have a biography ready for her, and was just making up each encounter as he went along. There are many, many, many points in her storylines that she is supposedly "acting" like she doesn't know something that it's later revealed she did know - but there are only hints of foreknowledge in Kingston's performance when that foreknowledge has been pre-planned. Moffat retcons the shiat out of River's story every time he writes a new script with her.

What's worse, there are times when she supposedly knows things (after retconning) but "pretends" she doesn't even when there's nobody around.

It really pisses me off sometimes how much Moffat expects to go over the heads of fans, even when he knows (from personal experience) how fans pour over the details and expect some kind of internal logic from a show that is centered on an intellectual character who's usually 10 steps ahead of everyone around him.

Moffat's all about the "wouldn't it be clever if..." and never considers the "yeah, but what about..."
 
2013-08-05 11:37:30 PM  
100 Watt Walrus:

The worst parts of the "The Impossible Astronaut"/"Day of the Moon" arc for me tho is the beginning of "Day of the Moon," in which Amy, Rory, and River are being fake hunted down by Delaware. Among the myriad other problems with the plot at that point is that it's never explained why anyone would want them hunted down at that point,

They split up to search for evidence of the Silence/Silents and possibly for weaknesses, and had themselves hunted down as a ruse to bring them all back together to compare notes, since they could not completely remember why they were searching or what they were searching for except upon seeing the Silents, but they could remember a suggestion given to them while in the visual presence of one.
Earlier in the story they had come up with a plan to mark themselves every time they encountered one of the Aliens, and by doing so they came up with a sample census of their population and whereabouts on Earth.

who ordered the hunting,

President Nixon ordered the manhunt, at the request of the Doctor in return for solving the mystery of the phone calls to the oval office coming from a scared little girl in Florida.  Delaware was highly enough ranked in government service to be allowed free reign to do so.

why they're being killed instead of captured,

To Fool any Silents/Silence who might be observing the hunt to conclude they were being eliminated as a possible threat, even to the remote possibility of a threat they seemed to be.   In the meantime the Doctor had concocted a plan to find their hideout or weakness to fight them with.

 and for whose benefit their deaths are being faked.

See above.

And don't even get me started on the imprisonment of the Doctor.

That part made the most sense of all.  The Doctor could not trick the Silents into entering the Tardis to be captured.  So he had himself captured first, placed under 24 hour observation by no less than 4 armed special forces soldiers (multiple eyes watching the scene at all times) and imprisoned in a room that an enemy would eventually have to physically enter to challenge the Doctor - But could not themselves escape from.  Then he arranged for Rory, Amy, and River to be brought in (Dead or Alive, preferably fake Dead) to the same place where they could compare notes.

The setup was the scene in the Tardis where the doctor was able to create a holographic projection of a Silent and used that to force some post hypnotic suggestions into the minds of his companions.
 
2013-08-06 01:12:06 AM  

Seequinn: 100 Watt Walrus:

The worst parts of the "The Impossible Astronaut"/"Day of the Moon" arc for me tho is the beginning of "Day of the Moon," in which Amy, Rory, and River are being fake hunted down by Delaware. Among the myriad other problems with the plot at that point is that it's never explained why anyone would want them hunted down at that point,

They split up to search for evidence of the Silence/Silents and possibly for weaknesses, and had themselves hunted down as a ruse to bring them all back together to compare notes, since they could not completely remember why they were searching or what they were searching for except upon seeing the Silents, but they could remember a suggestion given to them while in the visual presence of one.
Earlier in the story they had come up with a plan to mark themselves every time they encountered one of the Aliens, and by doing so they came up with a sample census of their population and whereabouts on Earth.

who ordered the hunting,

President Nixon ordered the manhunt, at the request of the Doctor in return for solving the mystery of the phone calls to the oval office coming from a scared little girl in Florida.  Delaware was highly enough ranked in government service to be allowed free reign to do so.

why they're being killed instead of captured,

To Fool any Silents/Silence who might be observing the hunt to conclude they were being eliminated as a possible threat, even to the remote possibility of a threat they seemed to be.   In the meantime the Doctor had concocted a plan to find their hideout or weakness to fight them with.

 and for whose benefit their deaths are being faked.

See above.

And don't even get me started on the imprisonment of the Doctor.

That part made the most sense of all.  The Doctor could not trick the Silents into entering the Tardis to be captured.  So he had himself captured first, placed under 24 hour observation by no less than 4 armed special forces soldiers (multiple eyes watching the ...


Holy crap. All of that seems to actually make sense. Too bad none of it was explained in the show.

Have to ask: How much work was it to figure that out? I'm a pretty bright guy, and one who appreciates complex storytelling, and a life-long "Doctor Who" fan, so I'm wondering if you feel this was all somehow obvious and I missed it, or if you worked on figuring it out instead of just getting frustrated with Moffat's lack of clarity, like I did.
 
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