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(New York Daily News)   I've got great news for really stupid Americans that don't have airfare to Spain   (nydailynews.com) divider line 73
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2013-08-03 11:59:48 PM  
Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead!
 
2013-08-04 12:01:50 AM  
I never thought it would come here because of the litigation and tort insurance costs. A statement on the website is not going to take care of liability.

FTFA: Other bull runs are planned for cities in Texas, Florida, California, Minnesota, Illinois and Pennsylvania.

Oh I can't WAIT for THAT one to hit the Main Page.
 
2013-08-04 12:16:22 AM  
It was only a matter of time.

/sponsored by Red Bull
 
2013-08-04 12:26:33 AM  
Oh, great.  Americans don't need yet another way to be stupid.
 
2013-08-04 12:28:53 AM  
I always root for the bulls to kill as many idiots as possible.
 
2013-08-04 12:33:52 AM  

Somacandra: FTFA: Other bull runs are planned for cities in Texas, Florida, California, Minnesota, Illinois and Pennsylvania.

Oh I can't WAIT for THAT one to hit the Main Page.


Things will happen that would make  Julio Aparicio Díaz flinch...

/I'm not posting the pic of what happened to him...
 
2013-08-04 12:46:50 AM  
Then in February, you can go to Anchorage for the Running of the Reindeer.
 
2013-08-04 12:50:31 AM  

Somacandra: I never thought it would come here because of the litigation and tort insurance costs. A statement on the website is not going to take care of liability.



No worries

/the bulls will have realistic looking rubber horns
//what could possibly go wrong?
///assuming a carefully chosen route that avoids china shops
 
2013-08-04 01:06:09 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Then in February, you can go to Anchorage for the Running of the Reindeer.


Don't you mean the flying of the reindeer?
 
2013-08-04 01:17:05 AM  

Bucky Katt: Lenny_da_Hog: Then in February, you can go to Anchorage for the Running of the Reindeer.

Don't you mean the flying of the reindeer?


That's in December, you Communist heathen.
 
2013-08-04 01:27:03 AM  

Somacandra: I never thought it would come here because of the litigation and tort insurance costs. A statement on the website is not going to take care of liability.

FTFA: Other bull runs are planned for cities in Texas, Florida, California, Minnesota, Illinois and Pennsylvania.

Oh I can't WAIT for THAT one to hit the Main Page.


Heh. Let me tell you about a friend who was a blood-red, tort-reform loving GOP voter - until about a minute after his homebuilder actually laughed in his face when he threatened to sue.

I think municipalities might be squeamish about allowing it, mostly because of the idiocy it'd bring, but... you just need to find one, right?
 
2013-08-04 01:36:43 AM  

MisterTweak: Heh. Let me tell you about a friend who was a blood-red, tort-reform loving GOP voter - until about a minute after his homebuilder actually laughed in his face when he threatened to sue.


Everyone hates frivolous law suits, and no one thinks their law suit is frivolous. That's why "tort reform" is just a way for corporations to limit the ordinary citizen's access to the legal system.
 
2013-08-04 01:45:55 AM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro: That's why "tort reform" is just a way for corporations to limit the ordinary citizen's access to the legal system.


Why should they pay for their gross incompetence? They are just small businessmen. They put their pants on the same way you do.

If they kill or harm someone, the market will sort that out.

Or something. Just pray on it.
 
2013-08-04 02:21:14 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Mitch Taylor's Bro: That's why "tort reform" is just a way for corporations to limit the ordinary citizen's access to the legal system.

Why should they pay for their gross incompetence? They are just small businessmen. They put their pants on the same way you do.

If they kill or harm someone, the market will sort that out.

Or something. Just pray on it.


Or study it out :-)
 
2013-08-04 02:28:30 AM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro: MisterTweak: Heh. Let me tell you about a friend who was a blood-red, tort-reform loving GOP voter - until about a minute after his homebuilder actually laughed in his face when he threatened to sue.

Everyone hates frivolous law suits, and no one thinks their law suit is frivolous. That's why "tort reform" is just a way for corporations to limit the ordinary citizen's access to the legal system.


Many people are screaming tort reform in order to lower health care costs.
Texas passed massive tort reform bills, and it didn't affect their health care prices whatsoever.

Less than 1% of your doctor, or hospital bill goes to cover malpractice insurance.
 
2013-08-04 03:09:53 AM  

TommyymmoT: Less than 1% of your doctor, or hospital bill goes to cover malpractice insurance.


I'm not really doubting you. From what I have learned it is a rather low percentage. But, do you have a citation for this?
 
2013-08-04 03:23:14 AM  
i43.tinypic.com
 
2013-08-04 03:53:51 AM  

Philbb: TommyymmoT: Less than 1% of your doctor, or hospital bill goes to cover malpractice insurance.

I'm not really doubting you. From what I have learned it is a rather low percentage. But, do you have a citation for this?


I tell you what, do your ownresearch and prove me wrong.
The onus isn't upon me, it is upon you, unless of course you would like to pay me for my time.
Mr Feeny,  I am not.
 
2013-08-04 04:23:59 AM  

TommyymmoT: Philbb: TommyymmoT: Less than 1% of your doctor, or hospital bill goes to cover malpractice insurance.

I'm not really doubting you. From what I have learned it is a rather low percentage. But, do you have a citation for this?

I tell you what, do your ownresearch and prove me wrong.
The onus isn't upon me, it is upon you, unless of course you would like to pay me for my time.
Mr Feeny,  I am not.


I did spend quite sometime looking for a source for your "less that 1%" claim. Also, as I said, I did "learn that it is a low percentage." But, I didn't find anything that indicated that doctor/hospital bills only charge 1% to cover malpractice insurance. I also mentioned that I didn't doubt you based on what I was able to find/learn. I was simply asking if you had a citation for your specific claim of "less than 1%" since I wasn't able to corroborate that with my own research.

I found that the specialty of the doctor made a big difference in how much the doctor paid for malpractice insurance. But that the difference could be between ~4K per year or 20+k per year. But I could not find info about what percentage of billing that would be.
 
2013-08-04 05:36:16 AM  
The only problem I have with things like bull fighting and the running of the bulls is they try and rescue the dumbfark if he gets himself in trouble..... In order to taunt animals you should have to go by thunderdome rules, 2 enter 1 leaves.
 
2013-08-04 05:38:36 AM  
They should replace the horns with lawn darts.
 
2013-08-04 05:41:19 AM  
What a Bull Run might look like:
www.history.com
 
2013-08-04 05:43:03 AM  
Since 1924, 15 people have been killed in the famed San Fermin festival in Spain


May we outdo our Spanish counterparts by tripling the death toll! It's the patriotic thing to do, amirite?!

/ head smackingly idiotic concept.
 
2013-08-04 05:44:27 AM  

TommyymmoT: Philbb: TommyymmoT: Less than 1% of your doctor, or hospital bill goes to cover malpractice insurance.

I'm not really doubting you. From what I have learned it is a rather low percentage. But, do you have a citation for this?

I tell you what, do your ownresearch and prove me wrong.
The onus isn't upon me, it is upon you, unless of course you would like to pay me for my time.
Mr Feeny,  I am not.


You made the assertion. You get to back it up.
 
2013-08-04 05:51:09 AM  
Yeah, nobody will be sued over this.

Doesn't matter if you have to sign something, the city that allows it, the organisator or the supplier of the bulls will be sued.
 
2013-08-04 05:53:36 AM  

lucksi: Yeah, nobody will be sued over this.

Doesn't matter if you have to sign something, the city that allows it, the organisator or the supplier of the bulls will be sued.


Sure. Anyone can sue over anything. The question is if it is frivolous.

I'd like to think that it would be.
 
2013-08-04 05:59:34 AM  

sendtodave: TommyymmoT: Philbb: TommyymmoT: Less than 1% of your doctor, or hospital bill goes to cover malpractice insurance.

I'm not really doubting you. From what I have learned it is a rather low percentage. But, do you have a citation for this?

I tell you what, do your ownresearch and prove me wrong.
The onus isn't upon me, it is upon you, unless of course you would like to pay me for my time.
Mr Feeny,  I am not.

You made the assertion. You get to back it up.


I really don't get why people can never understand this. You make the claim, YOU have to back it up if someone calls it into question.
 
2013-08-04 06:00:27 AM  
http://www.thegreatbullrun.com/events/mn2014/

This is a link the MN event.  When I looked at various different locations, they are all running around a quarter mile track.  Pretty lame.   If they are going to be stupid enough to run while being chased by bulls, why not go all out.
 
2013-08-04 06:15:23 AM  

HoneyDog: http://www.thegreatbullrun.com/events/mn2014/

This is a link the MN event.  When I looked at various different locations, they are all running around a quarter mile track.  Pretty lame.   If they are going to be stupid enough to run while being chased by bulls, why not go all out.


Probably because it's the only place they can truly keep spectators out of harms way.. If they did it on city streets there is no way to keep spectators out of the way... The runners they can have sign 9000000 "don't sue us" forms.. Spectators they can't.. Hence why they are doing it at tracks.
 
2013-08-04 06:24:30 AM  
It seems appropriate that this is somehow tied in with Black Friday shopping at Walmart
 
2013-08-04 06:54:55 AM  
Who will be sued in the (inevitable) event of injuries? The cities, the organizers, or the bulls?
 
2013-08-04 06:58:10 AM  

styckx: HoneyDog: http://www.thegreatbullrun.com/events/mn2014/

This is a link the MN event.  When I looked at various different locations, they are all running around a quarter mile track.  Pretty lame.   If they are going to be stupid enough to run while being chased by bulls, why not go all out.

Probably because it's the only place they can truly keep spectators out of harms way.. If they did it on city streets there is no way to keep spectators out of the way... The runners they can have sign 9000000 "don't sue us" forms.. Spectators they can't.. Hence why they are doing it at tracks.


I don't think waivers are worth much. I remember a story about a woman who went skydiving and whose parachute didn't open. Her instructor grabbed her and held her the entire way down. They both landed safely, and she wound up suing because of a broken finger. And skydiving companies require customers to sign releases.
 
2013-08-04 06:59:59 AM  
"We do what we can to minimize those risks by using less-aggressive bulls than those used in Spain


images.wikia.com
 
2013-08-04 07:12:40 AM  
Bulls? Why not let people in cars chase them instead?
 
2013-08-04 07:15:57 AM  
taunting and terrorizing animals for amusement is behavior an elder would explain is unacceptable to a child. america should exploit it's own natural resources by having Prison Runs.
 
2013-08-04 07:20:34 AM  

Somacandra: I never thought it would come here because of the litigation and tort insurance costs. A statement on the website is not going to take care of liability.

FTFA: Other bull runs are planned for cities in Texas, Florida, California, Minnesota, Illinois and Pennsylvania.

Oh I can't WAIT for THAT one to hit the Main Page.


TX and Florida? Think of it as culling the herd, and I'm not talking about cattle.
 
2013-08-04 07:21:13 AM  
Remember the Murican version will have the people chasing the bulls in their Ford250's. Cattle catcher included.
 
2013-08-04 07:24:02 AM  
Self loathing comes in many flavors.

/Stupidest thing I've ever seen.
//These rocket surgeons should be allowed to get smashing drunk before they run, too.
///Won't someone please think of the lawyers?!
 
2013-08-04 07:29:01 AM  
I predict that this will be either totally lame, or very short-lived.

The second pic in TFA would make a great Demotivational poster about the moment of realizing you've made a bad decision. I hope his phone was on video record.
 
2013-08-04 07:39:43 AM  

sendtodave: lucksi: Yeah, nobody will be sued over this.

Doesn't matter if you have to sign something, the city that allows it, the organisator or the supplier of the bulls will be sued.

Sure. Anyone can sue over anything. The question is if it is frivolous.

I'd like to think that it would be.


Frivolous?
Running with bulls is inherently negligent behavior on its face.
Everyone who allows it will be eligible to pay lawyer fees.
Who's going to respond to the accidents/gorings?
EMS? Fire department? State police?

Gawd Amerikuns are a stupid lot.
 
2013-08-04 07:41:47 AM  
I'm waiting for the running of the school buses...
 
2013-08-04 07:47:11 AM  

KrispyKritter: taunting and terrorizing animals for amusement is behavior an elder would explain is unacceptable to a child. america should exploit it's own natural resources by having Prison Runs.


Hey how about this!
Prisoners could run and citizens could chase, hunt, and shoot/kill/maim them.
If the prisoners survive to a certain point 10 or 15 or 20 or 30 miles away, they get to go free.
Could call it the running of the prisoners.
 
2013-08-04 08:00:31 AM  
subversiveinfluence.com

Florida?  Yeah, this will end well.
 
2013-08-04 08:17:59 AM  

Nogale: Who will be sued in the (inevitable) event of injuries? The cities, the organizers, or the bulls?


Yes.
 
2013-08-04 08:22:01 AM  
Since this is America, they won't have to worry about being gored
i277.photobucket.com
Being shot by a bull standing it's ground, however....

/stop steamin' up my tail!
 
2013-08-04 08:22:23 AM  
imageshack.com
 
2013-08-04 08:23:51 AM  
Perhaps we should have a Running of the Politicians.
The weapons manufacturers could sponsor it, Colt, Remington, etc.

/What will PETA do, since they're based just down the road from Richmond in Norfolk?
http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/latest-news-ap/inspired-by-pamplon a- great-bull-run-coming-to-richmond/article_40a7cfb2-fc87-11e2-b847-001a 4bcf6878.html
 
2013-08-04 08:29:18 AM  
always good to see people getting what they deserve
 
2013-08-04 08:33:43 AM  

Nogale: styckx: HoneyDog: http://www.thegreatbullrun.com/events/mn2014/

This is a link the MN event.  When I looked at various different locations, they are all running around a quarter mile track.  Pretty lame.   If they are going to be stupid enough to run while being chased by bulls, why not go all out.

Probably because it's the only place they can truly keep spectators out of harms way.. If they did it on city streets there is no way to keep spectators out of the way... The runners they can have sign 9000000 "don't sue us" forms.. Spectators they can't.. Hence why they are doing it at tracks.

I don't think waivers are worth much. I remember a story about a woman who went skydiving and whose parachute didn't open. Her instructor grabbed her and held her the entire way down. They both landed safely, and she wound up suing because of a broken finger. And skydiving companies require customers to sign releases.


It depends on state law. Virtually all major sports teams include those waivers on their tickets, it doesn't mean they can't be held responsible for injuries. It's just there to deter gullible people from trying to sue.
 
2013-08-04 08:36:48 AM  
sounds like the government is running dry on their 'population control' schemes.
 
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