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2013-08-03 11:55:43 PM  
Tebow
 
2013-08-03 11:59:34 PM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: Tebow


lulz.
 
2013-08-04 12:00:07 AM  
Dwight Freeney
 
2013-08-04 12:05:25 AM  
I was gonna say Tomlinson but he was born June 79, and I don't feel like thinking further
 
2013-08-04 12:08:28 AM  
Julius Peppers
 
2013-08-04 12:14:04 AM  
Don't care about that, but I'll be very happy to see Walter Jones inducted.  That guy was a complete badass and was responsible for much of Seattle's success in the mid 2000s.

\pushed his Cadillac Escalade up and down the parking lot to work out
 
2013-08-04 12:16:07 AM  
Depends on when they retire.
 
2013-08-04 12:25:31 AM  
Calvin Johnson
 
2013-08-04 12:51:27 AM  
Richie Incognito
 
2013-08-04 01:14:59 AM  
JaMarcus Russell, because the owners need to thank him for being the death kneel of the old CBA with how rookie deals were structured.

/That or an oil drum full of Purple Drank and a semi-trailer full of cheeseburgers.
 
2013-08-04 01:18:22 AM  
Why the fark would anyone even mention  Ben Roethlisberger in a story about the HOF?
 
2013-08-04 01:29:55 AM  

DoctorCal: Why the fark would anyone even mention  Ben Roethlisberger in a story about the HOF?



He gets in, but not on the first ballot.

Tom Brady gets in on the first ballot. Polamalu was good but not a first ballot guy.  Steve McNair is borderline first ballot.  Shaun Alexander was first ballot but given his collapse, is now probably a third ballot guy.  Randy Moss was first ballot but we;re gonna make him wait.  Eli is first ballot.  Peyton is probably first ballot but I need to see something in Denver.  Seau is first ballot. Urlacher is probably first ballot but more second.  Donovan McNabb was first ballot but his last 2-3 years arguably make him a not-at-all. Tony Gonzales?  I'm thinking first ballot by the numbers but no hardware, sssooooo......Rodgers should be first ballot but being drafted so low hurts him.  I need to see more before I make him first ballot.  Ray Lewis will not be first ballot.  Can't be.  Kurt Warner gets in, but not on first ballot.

/First Ballot Guy
//because we all know what we call the guy who graduates last in med school
///also, BALLOT
 
2013-08-04 01:42:53 AM  

rickythepenguin: DoctorCal: Why the fark would anyone even mention  Ben Roethlisberger in a story about the HOF?


He gets in, but not on the first ballot.

Tom Brady gets in on the first ballot. Polamalu was good but not a first ballot guy.  Steve McNair is borderline first ballot.  Shaun Alexander was first ballot but given his collapse, is now probably a third ballot guy.  Randy Moss was first ballot but we;re gonna make him wait.  Eli is first ballot.  Peyton is probably first ballot but I need to see something in Denver.  Seau is first ballot. Urlacher is probably first ballot but more second.  Donovan McNabb was first ballot but his last 2-3 years arguably make him a not-at-all. Tony Gonzales?  I'm thinking first ballot by the numbers but no hardware, sssooooo......Rodgers should be first ballot but being drafted so low hurts him.  I need to see more before I make him first ballot.  Ray Lewis will not be first ballot.  Can't be.  Kurt Warner gets in, but not on first ballot.

/First Ballot Guy
//because we all know what we call the guy who graduates last in med school
///also, BALLOT


This ballot here would have been McNair's first ballot, as 2007 was his final year.
 
2013-08-04 01:52:32 AM  

rickythepenguin: Steve McNair is borderline first ballot.


I get the feeling he falls victim to what Andre Reed, Timy Brown and (until today) Cris Carter were victim to; their numbers at the time were great but with the offensive explosion we're in now they're average.  Steve McNair is currently 15 passing TD's behind Philip Rivers and only 4000 yards ahead.  It might be hard to make a case for him on his second go-round.

Rodgers should be first ballot but being drafted so low hurts him.

Quoi? I don't recall it hurting Joe Montana... Although Rodgers needs another two to three top flight years before a healthy debate on his first ballot bona fides can commence.
 
2013-08-04 01:56:45 AM  
Personally i don't see any one born in the 1980s making the hall of fame until 2019-2020  as there are many deserving players who played in them1980s and 1990s  that should go in first.
 
2013-08-04 02:11:52 AM  
I'm going with Clinton Portis squeaking in first by virtue of earliest eligibility.

Should be Peppers, Reed or Freeney
 
2013-08-04 02:21:18 AM  

rickythepenguin: DoctorCal: Why the fark would anyone even mention  Ben Roethlisberger in a story about the HOF?


He gets in, but not on the first ballot.

Tom Brady gets in on the first ballot. Polamalu was good but not a first ballot guy.  Steve McNair is borderline first ballot.  Shaun Alexander was first ballot but given his collapse, is now probably a third ballot guy.  Randy Moss was first ballot but we;re gonna make him wait.  Eli is first ballot.  Peyton is probably first ballot but I need to see something in Denver.  Seau is first ballot. Urlacher is probably first ballot but more second.  Donovan McNabb was first ballot but his last 2-3 years arguably make him a not-at-all. Tony Gonzales?  I'm thinking first ballot by the numbers but no hardware, sssooooo......Rodgers should be first ballot but being drafted so low hurts him.  I need to see more before I make him first ballot.  Ray Lewis will not be first ballot.  Can't be.  Kurt Warner gets in, but not on first ballot.

/First Ballot Guy
//because we all know what we call the guy who graduates last in med school
///also, BALLOT

 
2013-08-04 02:22:24 AM  
Dammit Ricky,
I meant to say:

Did you just say that Steve McNair should get in on first ballot but Ray Lewis shouldn't???

Did you?
 
2013-08-04 02:26:40 AM  
Lance Briggs
 
2013-08-04 02:27:12 AM  

socially inept was taken: Dammit Ricky,
I meant to say:

Did you just say that Steve McNair should get in on first ballot but Ray Lewis shouldn't???

Did you?


Well, Ray is really more of an edge weapons guy.

Oh, he said ballot, not bullet. Never mind.
 
2013-08-04 02:43:28 AM  

rickythepenguin: DoctorCal: Why the fark would anyone even mention  Ben Roethlisberger in a story about the HOF?


He gets in, but not on the first ballot.

Tom Brady gets in on the first ballot. Polamalu was good but not a first ballot guy.  Steve McNair is borderline first ballot.  Shaun Alexander was first ballot but given his collapse, is now probably a third ballot guy.  Randy Moss was first ballot but we;re gonna make him wait.  Eli is first ballot.  Peyton is probably first ballot but I need to see something in Denver.  Seau is first ballot. Urlacher is probably first ballot but more second.  Donovan McNabb was first ballot but his last 2-3 years arguably make him a not-at-all. Tony Gonzales?  I'm thinking first ballot by the numbers but no hardware, sssooooo......Rodgers should be first ballot but being drafted so low hurts him.  I need to see more before I make him first ballot.  Ray Lewis will not be first ballot.  Can't be.  Kurt Warner gets in, but not on first ballot.

/First Ballot Guy
//because we all know what we call the guy who graduates last in med school
///also, BALLOT


The article is about which football player born in the 80s will be the first inducted.  Of everyone you listed, only Polamalu and Eli  Manning were born in the 80s.

Eli should get in if he keeps up his stuff, and since he came out strong and was born in 81, he may be the first.  Flacco will get in, but he won't be the first.
 
2013-08-04 02:58:53 AM  
If Eli Manning is First Ballot, Ben Roethlisberger should be unanimously selected.
 
2013-08-04 03:22:54 AM  

rickythepenguin: DoctorCal: Why the fark would anyone even mention  Ben Roethlisberger in a story about the HOF?


He gets in, but not on the first ballot.

Tom Brady gets in on the first ballot. Polamalu was good but not a first ballot guy.  Steve McNair is borderline first ballot.  Shaun Alexander was first ballot but given his collapse, is now probably a third ballot guy.  Randy Moss was first ballot but we;re gonna make him wait.  Eli is first ballot.  Peyton is probably first ballot but I need to see something in Denver.  Seau is first ballot. Urlacher is probably first ballot but more second.  Donovan McNabb was first ballot but his last 2-3 years arguably make him a not-at-all. Tony Gonzales?  I'm thinking first ballot by the numbers but no hardware, sssooooo......Rodgers should be first ballot but being drafted so low hurts him.  I need to see more before I make him first ballot.  Ray Lewis will not be first ballot.  Can't be.  Kurt Warner gets in, but not on first ballot.

/First Ballot Guy
//because we all know what we call the guy who graduates last in med school
///also, BALLOT


Ray Lewis gets in on the first ballot. No doubt about it. You are not intelligent.
 
2013-08-04 03:59:58 AM  
Lebron James.
 
2013-08-04 04:05:19 AM  

rickythepenguin: DoctorCal: Why the fark would anyone even mention  Ben Roethlisberger in a story about the HOF?


He gets in, but not on the first ballot.

Tom Brady gets in on the first ballot. Polamalu was good but not a first ballot guy.  Steve McNair is borderline first ballot.  Shaun Alexander was first ballot but given his collapse, is now probably a third ballot guy.  Randy Moss was first ballot but we;re gonna make him wait.  Eli is first ballot.  Peyton is probably first ballot but I need to see something in Denver.  Seau is first ballot. Urlacher is probably first ballot but more second.  Donovan McNabb was first ballot but his last 2-3 years arguably make him a not-at-all. Tony Gonzales?  I'm thinking first ballot by the numbers but no hardware, sssooooo......Rodgers should be first ballot but being drafted so low hurts him.  I need to see more before I make him first ballot.  Ray Lewis will not be first ballot.  Can't be.  Kurt Warner gets in, but not on first ballot.

/First Ballot Guy
//because we all know what we call the guy who graduates last in med school
///also, BALLOT


Uh, if you think Polamalu, Peyton Manning, Gonzales and Ray Lewis have even a chance of not making it on their first ballot, you're nuts.
 
2013-08-04 05:25:34 AM  
rickythepenguin:Peyton is probably first ballot but I need to see something in Denver.

www.craftsandmorestore.com
 
2013-08-04 05:26:19 AM  

Tumbleweed Garden: rickythepenguin: DoctorCal: Why the fark would anyone even mention  Ben Roethlisberger in a story about the HOF?


He gets in, but not on the first ballot.

Tom Brady gets in on the first ballot. Polamalu was good but not a first ballot guy.  Steve McNair is borderline first ballot.  Shaun Alexander was first ballot but given his collapse, is now probably a third ballot guy.  Randy Moss was first ballot but we;re gonna make him wait.  Eli is first ballot.  Peyton is probably first ballot but I need to see something in Denver.  Seau is first ballot. Urlacher is probably first ballot but more second.  Donovan McNabb was first ballot but his last 2-3 years arguably make him a not-at-all. Tony Gonzales?  I'm thinking first ballot by the numbers but no hardware, sssooooo......Rodgers should be first ballot but being drafted so low hurts him.  I need to see more before I make him first ballot.  Ray Lewis will not be first ballot.  Can't be.  Kurt Warner gets in, but not on first ballot.

/First Ballot Guy
//because we all know what we call the guy who graduates last in med school
///also, BALLOT

Uh, if you think Polamalu, Peyton Manning, Gonzales and Ray Lewis have even a chance of not making it on their first ballot, you're nuts.


Yeah, Gonzales was widely considered to be a first-round lock after he left KC. The fact that he's still a top three TE at age 37 is downright ridiculous.

Manning, Lewis, Brady, Seau, Urlacher, Polamalu, and Warner are easy first ballot guys in my eyes, with Rodgers well on his way. Moss and McNabb are probably second/third guys given that they weren't as consistent.  I actually think it'll take a while for Alexander to get in (if he makes it at all).
 
2013-08-04 05:39:23 AM  

rickythepenguin: DoctorCal: Why the fark would anyone even mention  Ben Roethlisberger in a story about the HOF?


He gets in, but not on the first ballot.

Tom Brady gets in on the first ballot. Polamalu was good but not a first ballot guy.  Steve McNair is borderline first ballot.  Shaun Alexander was first ballot but given his collapse, is now probably a third ballot guy.  Randy Moss was first ballot but we;re gonna make him wait.  Eli is first ballot.  Peyton is probably first ballot but I need to see something in Denver.  Seau is first ballot. Urlacher is probably first ballot but more second.  Donovan McNabb was first ballot but his last 2-3 years arguably make him a not-at-all. Tony Gonzales?  I'm thinking first ballot by the numbers but no hardware, sssooooo......Rodgers should be first ballot but being drafted so low hurts him.  I need to see more before I make him first ballot.  Ray Lewis will not be first ballot.  Can't be.  Kurt Warner gets in, but not on first ballot.

/First Ballot Guy
//because we all know what we call the guy who graduates last in med school
///also, BALLOT


Brady - first ballot
McNair - it isn't the hall of very good
Alexander - 2-3 great seasons doesn't make a HOF career
Moss - Probably not first ballot because of the glut at receiver
Eli - Again, not the hall of very good
Peyton - first ballot, the bust is probably already cast
Seau - Maybe first ballot
Urlacher - MAYBE HOF
McNabb - MAYBE HOF
Gonzalez - First ballot.  In the discussion for all time TE, a career that WRs envy. No hardware? Really?
Rodgers - too early, maybe HOF if he keeps it up at this pace for a long career
Lewis - scumbag, but lock for first ballot
Warner - HOF QBs don't disappear for half a decade in the middle of their career.  Probably gets in because football media loves him and he took two teams to a super bowl.
 
2013-08-04 06:22:24 AM  
I have a question for you guys. I do NOT know the answer.. but how many QBs in history have 2 superbowl rings and are NOT in the hall of fame?
 
2013-08-04 06:33:21 AM  

poisonedpawn78: I have a question for you guys. I do NOT know the answer.. but how many QBs in history have 2 superbowl rings and are NOT in the hall of fame?


I just looked it up .. ONLY Jim Plunkett has 2 superbowl rings and is NOT in the hall of fame. only 3 others have that stat and they are ACTIVE , Brady, Roths and Eli.

Jim Plunkett
Td-Int  164-198 , 25882 yards, 67.5 rating.

Brady
334-123, 44806, 96.6

Ben
191-108, 29844, 92.7

Eli
211-144, 31527, 82.7


Now there are TONS of people who say plunkett is HoF worthy. If you even remotely think that he is even able to be considered then guess what, Brady, Ben and Eli are ALL getting in guaranteed. If you don't think so, you are just a bogus, biased football hater. Stats are stats and they all should be in the HoF when their careers are done. They are in an elite group of QBs who have done what very few have done before them.
 
2013-08-04 07:04:19 AM  

Forecaster18: rickythepenguin: DoctorCal: Why the fark would anyone even mention  Ben Roethlisberger in a story about the HOF?


He gets in, but not on the first ballot.

Tom Brady gets in on the first ballot. Polamalu was good but not a first ballot guy.  Steve McNair is borderline first ballot.  Shaun Alexander was first ballot but given his collapse, is now probably a third ballot guy.  Randy Moss was first ballot but we;re gonna make him wait.  Eli is first ballot.  Peyton is probably first ballot but I need to see something in Denver.  Seau is first ballot. Urlacher is probably first ballot but more second.  Donovan McNabb was first ballot but his last 2-3 years arguably make him a not-at-all. Tony Gonzales?  I'm thinking first ballot by the numbers but no hardware, sssooooo......Rodgers should be first ballot but being drafted so low hurts him.  I need to see more before I make him first ballot.  Ray Lewis will not be first ballot.  Can't be.  Kurt Warner gets in, but not on first ballot.

/First Ballot Guy
//because we all know what we call the guy who graduates last in med school
///also, BALLOT

Brady - first ballot
McNair - it isn't the hall of very good
Alexander - 2-3 great seasons doesn't make a HOF career
Moss - Probably not first ballot because of the glut at receiver
Eli - Again, not the hall of very good
Peyton - first ballot, the bust is probably already cast
Seau - Maybe first ballot
Urlacher - MAYBE HOF
McNabb - MAYBE HOF
Gonzalez - First ballot.  In the discussion for all time TE, a career that WRs envy. No hardware? Really?
Rodgers - too early, maybe HOF if he keeps it up at this pace for a long career
Lewis - scumbag, but lock for first ballot
Warner - HOF QBs don't disappear for half a decade in the middle of their career.  Probably gets in because football media loves him and he took two teams to a super bowl.


If you think a Manning boy is missing the HoF, you're nuts.  Those two brothers are one of the keystones of the modern NFL, they'll have a shine to everybody named Manning.
 
2013-08-04 07:36:02 AM  

DoctorCal: Why the fark would anyone even mention  Ben Roethlisberger in a story about the HOF?


Because he's a lock for the Hall if he plays another 3 or 4 years. Duh.
 
2013-08-04 08:23:44 AM  
DoctorCal: Why the fark would anyone even mention Ben Roethlisberger in a story about the HOF?
===================================================

Because he's a first ballot hall of famer, douchenozzle.

Lemme guess, you're a Browns or Ravens fan?
 
2013-08-04 08:34:38 AM  
I've lost a ton of respect for the HOF.  It isn't the hall of the pretty good.  I think names get thrown around for the HOF when someone has had, 1)  a 2-3 year run of top flight performance or 2) a 10-12 year run of being above average.  In my opinion a HOF career should be a 10-12 year run of top flight performance.  Way too may pretty good players getting in now.

So, who is sitting out there *should* get in (IMHO)?

First Ballot
Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Dree Brees
Ray Lewis (as much as I hate it)
Junior Seau
Tony Gonzalez
Randy Moss
Ed Reed
Larry Fitzgerald
Troy Polamalu
Brian Urlacher

First Ballot (if they have just a couple more dominant years)
Adrian Peterson
Aaron Rogers
Calvin Johnson
Darrelle Revis
Patrick Willis
Demarcus Ware
Andre Johnson
Ben Roethlisberger

Will get in sooner or later
Kurt Warner
Reggie Wayne
Haloti Ngata
Dwight Freeney
Steve Smith
Wes Welker
Eli Manning

Should get into the hall of the pretty good
Shaun Alexander
Donovan McNabb
Steve McNair


I'm sure I've forgotten some
 
2013-08-04 09:05:07 AM  
 
2013-08-04 10:26:22 AM  

Jack_Knopf: Donovan McNabb


1) all you jackholes yammering on about whether i believe RayLewis gets in before joe blow, the "RAWR HE'S FIRST BALLOT!", i'm not in fact debating whether he gets in first ballot or not. it is a commentary on how so many talking heads on ESPN (and to a lesser extent, broadcast radio) have elevated HOF status in any sport, to a near-"if you aren't first ballot, it doesn't really count" status, which is silly.  ____ "GETS IN BUT NOT ON THE FIRST BALLOT!"  ummm...he still got in.


2) to the McNabb post here, i can't farking stand Mike and Mike, but I caught abit recently and Skinny "did you know I still refer to myself as 'metrosexual', as if that's still a thing?" Mike had a great point, when news broke last week that D-Mac was retiring. he said something like, "had he retired after he left Philly, I figured he was a near lock for the hall of fame.  But stumbling around in Washington for a cople years, and then not playing for the last year and a half, now is when his clock starts [refering to the five year waiting period].  I just don't see him getting in, period."

csb: a few years back the Eagles lost to I think Dallas in a wild card playoff, whcih was D-Mac's last game as an eagle (giants? i fiorget, but pretty sure it was dallas).  anyways, so a day or two later, i'm driving to the gym, and on the way STR is like, "you gotta think that Donovan's tenure as an Eagle is over.  They can't bring him back.  Time to move on for the organization..."  so i'm in the gym, and i look over, and Donovan Freaking McNabb is working out a few feet away.  it was so bizarre to have heard his name nonstop on the radio (and tv) and then he's there.

/ok not really a csb
//would it be a csb if i told you Ed Hochuli was there at tthe same time?  did they carpool?  used to see Eddie Hocks semi-regularly.  one time he was wearinga  striped referree hat but with a "NFL ON CBS" or "NFL ON FOX" logo on it.  way to stay under the radar, Ed.  WEARING A REFEREE HAT.
 
2013-08-04 10:37:22 AM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: Steve McNair is currently 15 passing TD's behind Philip Rivers and only 4000 yards ahead. It might be hard to make a case for him on his second go-round.


nooooooooooo shiat?  that's remarkable.


poisonedpawn78: I have a question for you guys. I do NOT know the answer.. but how many QBs in history have 2 superbowl rings and are NOT in the hall of fame?


the thing about Eli for me is that while the pass was completed, the Tyree thing is almost like he backed into a ring.  he had no business throwing the ball (just to evade a sack), and then in i think triple coverage (two at least) tyree had no business catching the ball, and then of course he sticks it to his helmet.  it aint the immaclate reception, but.....and am i the only one that remembers the secong super bowl where the Giants were like, 7-7 or some shiat, and people were clamoring for Coughlin's head?  and then they get hot, scrpaing into the playoffs and then of course running the table.  he's got scoreboard, but.....i just don't "believe" in Eli, and certainly not as an HOF QB.  I think in 2013 he's easily in the top half of QBs but I don't now if i'd put him in the top 10
 
2013-08-04 10:49:38 AM  
The truly amazing thing about Tony Gonzales is this tidbit that I caught on NFL Network last night: Mike Ditka, who's widely considered to be a top three (if not THE top) TE of all time, had 487 receptions in his career. Tony has 487 more receptions than the NEXT CLOSEST GUY on the TE list. That's insane.
 
2013-08-04 11:12:00 AM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: The truly amazing thing about Tony Gonzales is this tidbit that I caught on NFL Network last night: Mike Ditka, who's widely considered to be a top three (if not THE top) TE of all time, had 487 receptions in his career. Tony has 487 more receptions than the NEXT CLOSEST GUY on the TE list. That's insane.


Tight ends used to be primarily blockers, and didn't see many passes except on 2nd- or 3rd-and-short.  Since the Golden Age Of The West Coast Offense and the Pax Montana, it's a whole different ballgame.

Here's a fun stat for you - going into 1989, Steve Largent's final season, he was the all-time Receptions leader with 791.  At the time, this was the Top 10 Career Receptions Leaders:

Largent, 791 - was still active, played one more season, finished at 819
Charlie Joiner, 750
Charley Taylor, 649
Don Maynard, 633
Raymond Berry, 631
Ozzie Newsome (TE), 610 - was still active, played two more seasons, finished at 662
James Lofton, 599 - was still active, played five more seasons, finished at 764
Harold Carmichael, 590
Fred Biletnikoff - 589
Harold Jackson - 579

Of those ten, only the two Harolds (Carmichael and Jackson) aren't in the Hall of Fame - so, there was a time 25 years ago when 631 receptions meant you were a guaranteed lock for Canton.

Who has 631 receptions now?  Drew Hill, Amani Toomer, Joey Galloway, and Laveranues Coles.

Hell, there's a guy with 1000+ who can't get into the Hall of Fame - Tim Brown.  There's also five other receivers in the thousand-reception club coming up in the next few years.  Gonzalez will get in, no question - but what about Marvin Harrison, Terrell Owens, Isaac Bruce, and Hines Ward?  There's good arguments there for all four of those as to why they're not Canton material.
 
2013-08-04 11:18:15 AM  

Forecaster18: rickythepenguin:Peyton is probably first ballot but I need to see something in Denver.

[www.craftsandmorestore.com image 420x311]


I agree that Peyton is first-ballot and I too would like to see something in Denver. Two or three times before he retires to do more Dish commercials, in fact.

/Go Broncos.
//February, 2014: Broncos 31, Seahawks 20
 
2013-08-04 11:22:38 AM  
He's barely been mentioned in this thread, and he's a circus of ridiculousness, but Terrell Owens' numbers are hall of fame worthy.  Easily.

6th alltime in receptions, 2nd alltime in yards, 3rd alltime in receiving TDs.  He's even 5th alltime in TDs.
 
2013-08-04 11:28:44 AM  
All I know is who's going to be the first player born in the 1990's to make the HOF.

RG3.

/lulz
 
2013-08-04 11:34:41 AM  

Dafatone: He's barely been mentioned in this thread, and he's a circus of ridiculousness, but Terrell Owens' numbers are hall of fame worthy.  Easily.

6th alltime in receptions, 2nd alltime in yards, 3rd alltime in receiving TDs.  He's even 5th alltime in TDs.


Thing is, I think you'll start to see personal bias come in once he's eligible in 2017, especially in an area with so many worthy candidates like WR. I have no doubt that he'll get in eventually, but first ballot? I don't see it.
 
2013-08-04 12:18:25 PM  
No Steve Atwater? NFL HoF isn't legit until this is corrected.
 
2013-08-04 12:27:38 PM  

Wadded Beef: No Steve Atwater? NFL HoF isn't legit until this is corrected.


There are 7 safeties in the Hall (6 reallly but they count Mel Renfro under both) so it's not like he's being excluded.  It's just not a high priority position to get people included.

Make you a deal... the Broncos get Atwater if the Raiders can get Tatum.
 
2013-08-04 12:30:48 PM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: Wadded Beef: No Steve Atwater? NFL HoF isn't legit until this is corrected.

There are 7 safeties in the Hall (6 reallly but they count Mel Renfro under both) so it's not like he's being excluded.  It's just not a high priority position to get people included.

Make you a deal... the Broncos get Atwater if the Raiders can get Tatum.


You think Dawkins gets in before Atwater?
 
2013-08-04 12:34:28 PM  

Jack_Knopf: I've lost a ton of respect for the HOF.  It isn't the hall of the pretty good.  I think names get thrown around for the HOF when someone has had, 1)  a 2-3 year run of top flight performance or 2) a 10-12 year run of being above average.  In my opinion a HOF career should be a 10-12 year run of top flight performance.  Way too may pretty good players getting in now.

So, who is sitting out there *should* get in (IMHO)?

First Ballot
Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Dree Brees
Ray Lewis (as much as I hate it)
Junior Seau
Tony Gonzalez
Randy Moss
Ed Reed
Larry Fitzgerald
Troy Polamalu
Brian Urlacher

First Ballot (if they have just a couple more dominant years)
Adrian Peterson
Aaron Rogers
Calvin Johnson
Darrelle Revis
Patrick Willis
Demarcus Ware
Andre Johnson
Ben Roethlisberger

Will get in sooner or later
Kurt Warner
Reggie Wayne
Haloti Ngata
Dwight Freeney
Steve Smith
Wes Welker
Eli Manning

Should get into the hall of the pretty good
Shaun Alexander
Donovan McNabb
Steve McNair


I'm sure I've forgotten some


You accidentally put Fitz in the first ballot section. Everything else seems legit.
 
2013-08-04 12:37:50 PM  

JDawgNJ: Ken VeryBigLiar: Wadded Beef: No Steve Atwater? NFL HoF isn't legit until this is corrected.

There are 7 safeties in the Hall (6 reallly but they count Mel Renfro under both) so it's not like he's being excluded.  It's just not a high priority position to get people included.

Make you a deal... the Broncos get Atwater if the Raiders can get Tatum.

You think Dawkins gets in before Atwater?


Atwater's a Veteran's nominee but they seem content on putting in guys who the voters have sharpening their axes with (looking at you Curly Culp and Gene Hickerson) so who knows.  No slam on Dawkins, his work in Philly (not to mention helping revitalize the safety position) should be strong enough to get him in on his second to fourth ballot.
 
2013-08-04 01:30:28 PM  
Jared Allen.
 
2013-08-04 02:02:30 PM  
Is everyone on this thread terrible at math? Maybe 10% of the players in this thread are born in the 80's.
 
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