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(KTVN Reno)   ABC news crew robbed at gunpoint in broad daylight in Cairo. Did I say Cairo? I meant Oakland   (ktvn.com ) divider line 261
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2013-08-03 07:15:28 PM  
They were in Oakland.

/Its like saying you got rained on in Seattle.
 
2013-08-03 07:23:12 PM  
I'll just leave this here:

Come visit Oak Land!

The crown jewel of the East Bay!
 
2013-08-03 07:26:38 PM  
Yeah, it would be more surprising if it were Cairo.
 
2013-08-03 07:52:35 PM  
Oakland, when Detroit just doesnt suck bad enough for you.
 
2013-08-03 07:53:34 PM  
So the security guard was there to do what exactly?
 
2013-08-03 07:55:28 PM  
Oakland, when you need something to make Camden look like an attractive place to live
 
2013-08-03 07:55:38 PM  
You'd be safer in Cairo.
 
2013-08-03 07:55:52 PM  
Actually had it been Cairo there would have been rape involved.
 
2013-08-03 07:56:31 PM  
Oakland... meh
 
2013-08-03 07:57:53 PM  

Mattyb710: So the security guard was there to do what exactly?


To take notes for the lawsuit the ABC employees will rightfully file?
 
2013-08-03 07:58:16 PM  
WTF?
I thought they only liked to steal stuff they could sell.
This crap is like buying tickets to the joint.
 
2013-08-03 07:58:56 PM  
Coulda used some Stand Your Ground there, TV Station security guard.
 
2013-08-03 07:59:40 PM  
City Motto:
Oakland: At least we're not Newark.
 
2013-08-03 08:00:20 PM  
As the article says, this is hardly a first in Oakland.
 
2013-08-03 08:00:53 PM  
Oakland: Hey, you can see San Francisco from here!
 
2013-08-03 08:01:50 PM  

Mattyb710: So the security guard was there to do what exactly?


Who do you think set the little biatches up?
 
2013-08-03 08:01:59 PM  
I wonder if Rex Matheson - danger seeker has been there yet,
 
2013-08-03 08:03:27 PM  
Obvious tag spotted bleeding out in an alley with 14 stab wounds
 
2013-08-03 08:03:36 PM  
Officials say three men accosted the KGO-TV crew around 2:30 p.m. Friday in West Oakland. At least one had a gun.

/sighs, another example of hiding the race of the suspects. They seem to have no problem saying "white males, hispanic males, " but if they were black, they wont give a suspect description at all. Don't hate, you have seen it just as much as i have.
 
2013-08-03 08:03:39 PM  
Where could they even hock professional news gear? Will a seedy pawn shop even take it because where are they going to unload it? Is there some underworld market for news gear thats only known in the industry?
 
2013-08-03 08:07:12 PM  
The incident is the latest robbery targeting media people carrying around expensive equipment.

Fixt.


Mattyb710: So the security guard was there to do what exactly?


Different network.
 
2013-08-03 08:07:23 PM  

asdrabael: Where could they even hock professional news gear? Will a seedy pawn shop even take it because where are they going to unload it? Is there some underworld market for news gear thats only known in the industry?


Maybe they're just going to shoot really high quality YouTube videos.  Just as soon as they figure how to hold the camera in portrait mode.
 
2013-08-03 08:07:28 PM  
B. E. T. now has a news crew.
 
2013-08-03 08:07:55 PM  
Not all of oakland sucks.  There are actually some high end neighborhoods in that city.  However, if you don't know the city you can easily end up "on the wrong side of town", which is the majority of that shiat-hole city.

csb: before moving to the Bay Area, my buddy and I came up from L.A. for a few days to find a house or apartment.  Because we didn't know which areas where bad, we had to drive around to learn for ourselves.  So with our apartment list in hand (from a service, before it was all on the internet) we drive to what sounded like a great place in Oakland.  As we're driving slowly up the street looking for the address, some homeboy walk in front of our moving vehicle giving us the stinkeye and an attitude of "what you gonna do?"  We decided if he pulled a gun we'd run his sorry ass over.  We stopped looking for the apartment on that street.  That was all we needed to know we weren't going to live there.  We drive past hommie, who was still giving us the stinkeye, and out of Oakland.  We never considered any address in Oakland after that.

A note to terrorists who obtain a nuke.  Consider Oakland.
 
2013-08-03 08:09:30 PM  

asdrabael: Where could they even hock professional news gear? Will a seedy pawn shop even take it because where are they going to unload it? Is there some underworld market for news gear thats only known in the industry?


Fox News.
 
2013-08-03 08:09:53 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: Officials say three men accosted the KGO-TV crew around 2:30 p.m. Friday in West Oakland. At least one had a gun.

/sighs, another example of hiding the race of the suspects. They seem to have no problem saying "white males, hispanic males, " but if they were black, they wont give a suspect description at all. Don't hate, you have seen it just as much as i have.


Why are people like you so obsessed with race? There wasn't  any description of the suspects  at all. If TFA  describedthe suspects and left out race, you'd have a point. But what you have here is nothing but a red flag that you're obsessed with race.
 
2013-08-03 08:10:57 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: Officials say three men accosted the KGO-TV crew around 2:30 p.m. Friday in West Oakland. At least one had a gun.

/sighs, another example of hiding the race of the suspects. They seem to have no problem saying "white males, hispanic males, " but if they were black, they wont give a suspect description at all. Don't hate, you have seen it just as much as i have.


It's Oakland.  We have all the information we need to know the race.
 
2013-08-03 08:11:45 PM  
A few years ago, I flew to San Fran to visit my then girlfriend, but I was able to fly into Oakland for way cheaper, so I did. Thank God though. That news crew could have been me. Just kidding. She wasn't my girlfriend, just a good friend but we did have a lot of sex that week. But don't be jealous because it wasn't that great.
 
2013-08-03 08:11:50 PM  
Explain to me how someone could commit armed robbery in California when they have the strictest gun control laws in the country? This story must be some kind of hoax I tell ya.
 
2013-08-03 08:12:14 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-03 08:12:32 PM  
 
2013-08-03 08:12:52 PM  

asdrabael: Where could they even hock professional news gear? Will a seedy pawn shop even take it because where are they going to unload it? Is there some underworld market for news gear thats only known in the industry?


They will use it to make you-tube music videos and become famous, duh!!!!!
 
2013-08-03 08:14:09 PM  

asdrabael: Where could they even hock professional news gear? Will a seedy pawn shop even take it because where are they going to unload it? Is there some underworld market for news gear thats only known in the industry?


I'm not sure it's about the money, although I could be completely wrong.

I worked in news in San Francisco for many moons, and left the business 2 years ago. At the time I left there was an incredible animosity and antagonism towards news crews. It got really bad during the Oscar Grant riot. The Occupy stuff was the icing on the cake. News crews are the bad guys now, and are very easy targets.

/my 2 cents
 
2013-08-03 08:15:06 PM  

asdrabael: Where could they even hock professional news gear? Will a seedy pawn shop even take it because where are they going to unload it? Is there some underworld market for news gear thats only known in the industry?


Well criminals aren't particularly knows for their smarts.
 
2013-08-03 08:15:29 PM  

asdrabael: Where could they even hock professional news gear? Will a seedy pawn shop even take it because where are they going to unload it? Is there some underworld market for news gear thats only known in the industry?


Let me call my guy.
 
2013-08-03 08:16:00 PM  
I got stabbed in Oakland once, so I'm getting a kick out of this thread.
 
2013-08-03 08:17:12 PM  
Gimmie dem ducats
 
2013-08-03 08:17:15 PM  
I used to deliver Debris boxes in that ghetto ass town.  I saw a drive by on International and quit my job that night.  There is no reason to ever go to Oakland.
 
2013-08-03 08:17:19 PM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: asdrabael: Where could they even hock professional news gear? Will a seedy pawn shop even take it because where are they going to unload it? Is there some underworld market for news gear thats only known in the industry?

I'm not sure it's about the money, although I could be completely wrong.

I worked in news in San Francisco for many moons, and left the business 2 years ago. At the time I left there was an incredible animosity and antagonism towards news crews. It got really bad during the Oscar Grant riot. The Occupy stuff was the icing on the cake. News crews are the bad guys now, and are very easy targets.

/my 2 cents


If news crews didn't always seek out the most extreme whack job they can find at any political rally, maybe there wouldn't be so much animosity.   You became the bad guys because of your own actions.
 
2013-08-03 08:17:19 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: Why are people like you so obsessed with race? There wasn't  any description of the suspects  at all. If TFA  describedthe suspects and left out race, you'd have a point. But what you have here is nothing but a red flag that you're obsessed with race.


You sound African-Armenian.
 
2013-08-03 08:18:34 PM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: asdrabael: Where could they even hock professional news gear? Will a seedy pawn shop even take it because where are they going to unload it? Is there some underworld market for news gear thats only known in the industry?

I'm not sure it's about the money, although I could be completely wrong.

I worked in news in San Francisco for many moons, and left the business 2 years ago. At the time I left there was an incredible animosity and antagonism towards news crews. It got really bad during the Oscar Grant riot. The Occupy stuff was the icing on the cake. News crews are the bad guys now, and are very easy targets.

/my 2 cents


Makes sense, the way they see it news crews are ratting them out by reporting crime, like they say on the street, snitches get stitches.
 
2013-08-03 08:18:35 PM  
A note to terrorists who obtain a nuke.  Consider Oakland.

That's right, get your biatch ass back to hell a, cracker ass honkey. Not wanted here. What a stupid thing to say.

Note to terrorists, please don't blow up anything. Thanks.

Most of Oakland is pretty good. I did look at the crimemapper.com report for a west oakland loft I was interested in... 4 murders and over 400 robberies and assaults within about a 4 block radius this year so far. Um, no thanks.
 
2013-08-03 08:21:04 PM  
 
2013-08-03 08:22:04 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: Bit'O'Gristle: Officials say three men accosted the KGO-TV crew around 2:30 p.m. Friday in West Oakland. At least one had a gun.

/sighs, another example of hiding the race of the suspects. They seem to have no problem saying "white males, hispanic males, " but if they were black, they wont give a suspect description at all. Don't hate, you have seen it just as much as i have.

Why are people like you so obsessed with race? There wasn't  any description of the suspects  at all. If TFA  describedthe suspects and left out race, you'd have a point. But what you have here is nothing but a red flag that you're obsessed with race.


I think that was his point...the media and other-is obsessed with race until it's "that one". It is a bit weird.
 
2013-08-03 08:24:42 PM  
damn crackers!
 
2013-08-03 08:24:47 PM  
Good thing california has all those gun / bullet laws.
 
2013-08-03 08:25:23 PM  

OgreMagi: Bit'O'Gristle: Officials say three men accosted the KGO-TV crew around 2:30 p.m. Friday in West Oakland. At least one had a gun.

/sighs, another example of hiding the race of the suspects. They seem to have no problem saying "white males, hispanic males, " but if they were black, they wont give a suspect description at all. Don't hate, you have seen it just as much as i have.

It's Oakland.  We have all the information we need to know the race.


So, then you've never been to Oakland?

Black or African American  106,637 - 27.3%
White  101,308 - 25.9%
Hispanic or Latino  99,068 - 25.4%
Asian  65,127 - 16.7%
Two or more races 14,076 - 3.6%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 2,081 - 0.5%
American Indian and Alaska Native  1,214 - 0.3%
Some other race  1,213 - 0.3%
 
2013-08-03 08:25:58 PM  
So Al Davis had put together the perfect Raiders team for '98. The only thing he was missing was a good quarterback. He had scouted all the colleges, and even the high schools, and he couldn't find a ringer quarterback that would ensure a SuperBowl win.

Then one night, watching CNN, he saw a war zone in Bosnia. In the background, out of the corner of his eye, he spotted a young Bosnian soldier with a truly incredible arm. He threw a hand grenade straight into a 15th story window 200 yards away, ka-boom! He threw another hand grenade into a group of about 10 soldiers a good 110 yards away-ka-blooey! A car passes going 90 miles an hour-bulls-eye! Right into the barely open window.

"I've got to get this guy," Al says to himself. "He has the perfect arm!" So he brings him to the states and teaches him the great game of football. Predictably, the young man breaks all the NFL records for completed passes, and the Raiders go on to win the SuperBowl.

The young Bosnian is lionized as the Great Hero of SuperBowl XXXI, and when Al asks him what he wants, all the young man wants to do is to call his mother. "Mom," the young man says into the receiver, "I just won the SuperBowl." "I don't want to talk to you,"
the old woman says. "You deserted us. You're not my son."

"I don't think you understand, mother" the young man pleads. "I just won the greatest sporting event in the world. I'm in the middle of thousands of adoring fans."

"No, let me tell you," the mother implores. "At this very moment, there are gun shots all around us. The neighborhood is a pile of rubble. Your two brothers were beaten within an inch of their lifes last week, and this week your sister was raped in broad daylight...." I'll never forgive you for making us move to Oakland.
 
2013-08-03 08:26:16 PM  
http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Gunman-robs-Oakland-council-candi d ate-3960332.php

Nebbishy white Jewish guy
Sweater vest
Envinronmental activist
Hybrid
iPhone
Oakland

This article still makes me laugh.  Reality surpasses The Onion, sometimes.
 
2013-08-03 08:27:14 PM  
I wonder if those liberal reporters are still liberal now?
 
2013-08-03 08:28:02 PM  

OgreMagi: Not all of oakland sucks.  There are actually some high end neighborhoods in that city.  However, if you don't know the city you can easily end up "on the wrong side of town", which is the majority of that shiat-hole city.

csb: before moving to the Bay Area, my buddy and I came up from L.A. for a few days to find a house or apartment.  Because we didn't know which areas where bad, we had to drive around to learn for ourselves.  So with our apartment list in hand (from a service, before it was all on the internet) we drive to what sounded like a great place in Oakland.  As we're driving slowly up the street looking for the address, some homeboy walk in front of our moving vehicle giving us the stinkeye and an attitude of "what you gonna do?"  We decided if he pulled a gun we'd run his sorry ass over.  We stopped looking for the apartment on that street.  That was all we needed to know we weren't going to live there.  We drive past hommie, who was still giving us the stinkeye, and out of Oakland.  We never considered any address in Oakland after that.

A note to terrorists who obtain a nuke.  Consider Oakland.


When I moved to the Bay Area, my buddy and I were looking for a place and we didn't know the area well either. We looked for apartments in neighborhoods that had a high percentage of Volvos (it was 1990, if I were doing it today, I'd look for maybe Priuses). We ended up in Oakland, and I've lived in the same neighborhood ever since. In fact, when I moved 3 years ago, I refused to look anywhere else but this neighbhorhood. Walking distance to BART, Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, a movie theater, a public rose garden, the lake (with botanical garden, bird preserve, and Childrens' Fairlyland), a weekly farmers' market, and dozens of restaurants. Within a couple miles are dozens more restaurants and shops, etc., etc.

The bad parts of Oakland are pretty bad, and there are a lot of bad parts of town, but there are at least as many neighborhoods like mine.

As for this kind of crime, this has happened a few times now, and the MO suggests its one crew of criminals hitting these TV crews - not indicative of the city's crime problems as a whole.
 
2013-08-03 08:28:20 PM  

Bob Falfa: City Motto:
Oakland: At least we're not Newark.


only the best comedians tell NJ jokes. it's very original.

I shall pass through this world but once
Any good, therefore, that I can do
Or any kindness that I can show
To any human being
Let me do it now. Let me
Not defer it or neglect it for
I shall not pass this way again.
 
2013-08-03 08:28:52 PM  
Pregnant in Oakland Parking Lot Brawl  http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ba0_1279314392
 
2013-08-03 08:29:11 PM  

OgreMagi: Runs_With_Scissors_: asdrabael: Where could they even hock professional news gear? Will a seedy pawn shop even take it because where are they going to unload it? Is there some underworld market for news gear thats only known in the industry?

I'm not sure it's about the money, although I could be completely wrong.

I worked in news in San Francisco for many moons, and left the business 2 years ago. At the time I left there was an incredible animosity and antagonism towards news crews. It got really bad during the Oscar Grant riot. The Occupy stuff was the icing on the cake. News crews are the bad guys now, and are very easy targets.

/my 2 cents

If news crews didn't always seek out the most extreme whack job they can find at any political rally, maybe there wouldn't be so much animosity.   You became the bad guys because of your own actions.


Why do you think I quit the business? I got tired of fighting the circus atmosphere and trying as hard as I could to squeeze a nugget of news in between stories about singing dogs and latest episode of Dancing with the Stars. There's only so long you can fight the good fight.
 
2013-08-03 08:29:56 PM  
Idiots. You don't climb into the gorilla cage and expect not to get mauled.
 
2013-08-03 08:31:33 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: OgreMagi: Not all of oakland sucks.  There are actually some high end neighborhoods in that city.  However, if you don't know the city you can easily end up "on the wrong side of town", which is the majority of that shiat-hole city.

csb: before moving to the Bay Area, my buddy and I came up from L.A. for a few days to find a house or apartment.  Because we didn't know which areas where bad, we had to drive around to learn for ourselves.  So with our apartment list in hand (from a service, before it was all on the internet) we drive to what sounded like a great place in Oakland.  As we're driving slowly up the street looking for the address, some homeboy walk in front of our moving vehicle giving us the stinkeye and an attitude of "what you gonna do?"  We decided if he pulled a gun we'd run his sorry ass over.  We stopped looking for the apartment on that street.  That was all we needed to know we weren't going to live there.  We drive past hommie, who was still giving us the stinkeye, and out of Oakland.  We never considered any address in Oakland after that.

A note to terrorists who obtain a nuke.  Consider Oakland.

When I moved to the Bay Area, my buddy and I were looking for a place and we didn't know the area well either. We looked for apartments in neighborhoods that had a high percentage of Volvos (it was 1990, if I were doing it today, I'd look for maybe Priuses). We ended up in Oakland, and I've lived in the same neighborhood ever since. In fact, when I moved 3 years ago, I refused to look anywhere else but this neighbhorhood. Walking distance to BART, Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, a movie theater, a public rose garden, the lake (with botanical garden, bird preserve, and Childrens' Fairlyland), a weekly farmers' market, and dozens of restaurants. Within a couple miles are dozens more restaurants and shops, etc., etc.

The bad parts of Oakland are pretty bad, and there are a lot of bad parts of town, but there are at least as many neighborhoods like mine.

As ...


You sound very white.   I suppose you have to be at a Klan meeting in 26 minutes.
 
2013-08-03 08:33:04 PM  

KimNorth: 100 Watt Walrus: Bit'O'Gristle: Officials say three men accosted the KGO-TV crew around 2:30 p.m. Friday in West Oakland. At least one had a gun.

/sighs, another example of hiding the race of the suspects. They seem to have no problem saying "white males, hispanic males, " but if they were black, they wont give a suspect description at all. Don't hate, you have seen it just as much as i have.

Why are people like you so obsessed with race? There wasn't  any description of the suspects  at all. If TFA  describedthe suspects and left out race, you'd have a point. But what you have here is nothing but a red flag that you're obsessed with race.

I think that was his point...the media and other-is obsessed with race until it's "that one". It is a bit weird.


Well if that's his point, he should make the point when it's relevant - when there's a description that might otherwise include race but does not. If he  has a valid point, it's not valid here. This was just an opportunity for a thinly-disgused "those darn darkies" comment.
 
2013-08-03 08:34:26 PM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: OgreMagi: Runs_With_Scissors_: asdrabael: Where could they even hock professional news gear? Will a seedy pawn shop even take it because where are they going to unload it? Is there some underworld market for news gear thats only known in the industry?

I'm not sure it's about the money, although I could be completely wrong.

I worked in news in San Francisco for many moons, and left the business 2 years ago. At the time I left there was an incredible animosity and antagonism towards news crews. It got really bad during the Oscar Grant riot. The Occupy stuff was the icing on the cake. News crews are the bad guys now, and are very easy targets.

/my 2 cents

If news crews didn't always seek out the most extreme whack job they can find at any political rally, maybe there wouldn't be so much animosity.   You became the bad guys because of your own actions.

Why do you think I quit the business? I got tired of fighting the circus atmosphere and trying as hard as I could to squeeze a nugget of news in between stories about singing dogs and latest episode of Dancing with the Stars. There's only so long you can fight the good fight.


Ah, I obviously have misplaced my rage.  Glad you didn't let the industry take away your soul.
 
2013-08-03 08:34:57 PM  
Too bad they were incapable of defending themselves.

They were essentially eunuchs, theirs arms were castrated by law, 'not the protected.'
 
2013-08-03 08:34:58 PM  

Neighborhood Watch: I wonder if those liberal reporters are still liberal now?


Which liberal reporters, exactly? Or are you just talking out of your ass?

/rhetorical
 
2013-08-03 08:36:02 PM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: OgreMagi: Bit'O'Gristle: Officials say three men accosted the KGO-TV crew around 2:30 p.m. Friday in West Oakland. At least one had a gun.

/sighs, another example of hiding the race of the suspects. They seem to have no problem saying "white males, hispanic males, " but if they were black, they wont give a suspect description at all. Don't hate, you have seen it just as much as i have.

It's Oakland.  We have all the information we need to know the race.

So, then you've never been to Oakland?

Black or African American  106,637 - 27.3%
White  101,308 - 25.9%
Hispanic or Latino  99,068 - 25.4%
Asian  65,127 - 16.7%
Two or more races 14,076 - 3.6%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 2,081 - 0.5%
American Indian and Alaska Native  1,214 - 0.3%
Some other race  1,213 - 0.3%


Part of the reason I love it here.
 
2013-08-03 08:36:08 PM  

KrispyKritter: Bob Falfa: City Motto:
Oakland: At least we're not Newark.

only the best comedians tell NJ jokes. it's very original.


Let me guess, you're in NJ?
From your profile: Live in the NY tri-state area

This is what people from NJ say because they're embarrassed to admit they live in New Jersey. Same way people who live in Oakland say "I live in the San Francisco Bay area"
 
2013-08-03 08:36:18 PM  
BroncoFan_17: I'll never forgive you for making us move to Oakland.

I'll admit it.  I laughed.

On a more serious note, on a football player's salary I'd think he could afford a nice place in Napa for himself and his family.
 
2013-08-03 08:36:19 PM  
KrispyKritter:
I shall pass through this world but once
Any good, therefore, that I can do
Or any kindness that I can show
To any human being
Let me do it now. Let me
Not defer it or neglect it for
I shall not pass this way again.


The very best thing we could do for the rest of the country would be to burn most of Oakland to the ground.  Gotta look at the larger picture here, man.

/of course, the best thing we could do for the rest of the planet
//would be to burn most of D.C. to the ground
 
2013-08-03 08:37:23 PM  
Bah - it's ABC. They block their online new videos to Canada. Gotta be payback somehow.
 
2013-08-03 08:39:28 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: KimNorth: 100 Watt Walrus: Bit'O'Gristle: Officials say three men accosted the KGO-TV crew around 2:30 p.m. Friday in West Oakland. At least one had a gun.

/sighs, another example of hiding the race of the suspects. They seem to have no problem saying "white males, hispanic males, " but if they were black, they wont give a suspect description at all. Don't hate, you have seen it just as much as i have.

Why are people like you so obsessed with race? There wasn't  any description of the suspects  at all. If TFA  describedthe suspects and left out race, you'd have a point. But what you have here is nothing but a red flag that you're obsessed with race.

I think that was his point...the media and other-is obsessed with race until it's "that one". It is a bit weird.

Well if that's his point, he should make the point when it's relevant - when there's a description that might otherwise include race but does not. If he  has a valid point, it's not valid here. This was just an opportunity for a thinly-disgused "those darn darkies" comment.


"Remember folks if you point out instances of bigotry/racism/homophobia YOU are the one with the problem. Them's the new debate rules."
 
2013-08-03 08:39:29 PM  

Propain_az: You sound very white. I suppose you have to be at a Klan meeting in 26 minutes.


WTF are you on about?
 
2013-08-03 08:40:40 PM  

Bob Falfa: Same way people who live in Oakland say "I live in the San Francisco Bay area"


No we don't.
 
2013-08-03 08:40:47 PM  

KrispyKritter: Bob Falfa: City Motto:
Oakland: At least we're not Newark.

only the best comedians tell NJ jokes. it's very original.


Newark, CA
 
2013-08-03 08:42:55 PM  

Bob Falfa: KrispyKritter: Bob Falfa: City Motto:
Oakland: At least we're not Newark.

only the best comedians tell NJ jokes. it's very original.

Let me guess, you're in NJ?
From your profile: Live in the NY tri-state area

This is what people from NJ say because they're embarrassed to admit they live in New Jersey. Same way people who live in Oakland say "I live in the San Francisco Bay area"


Or people from Buffalo or Albany...
 
2013-08-03 08:43:12 PM  

Tony_Pepperoni: Pregnant in Oakland Parking Lot Brawl  http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ba0_1279314392


They were raised by animals?
 
2013-08-03 08:43:46 PM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: The Occupy stuff was the icing on the cake.


Oh I've meaning to ask, what happened to those folks anyway? Did they get jobs or something? I don't hear about them anymore.
 
2013-08-03 08:44:00 PM  

OgreMagi: Not all of oakland sucks.  There are actually some high end neighborhoods in that city.  However, if you don't know the city you can easily end up "on the wrong side of town", which is the majority of that shiat-hole city.


Yeah, I have friends that live near Lake Merritt and it's actually quite nice. Last time I was visiting them I felt safer there than I did wandering in SF.
 
2013-08-03 08:44:32 PM  
Someone was robbed in Oakland?

That's like saying Drew likes beer. :|
 
2013-08-03 08:46:30 PM  
ABC News and the local Oakland ABC affiliated news operation are not the same thing. I really wish more people understood this.
 
2013-08-03 08:46:37 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: Bob Falfa: Same way people who live in Oakland say "I live in the San Francisco Bay area"

No we don't.


You sound white.
 
2013-08-03 08:47:45 PM  

OgreMagi: Runs_With_Scissors_: OgreMagi: Runs_With_Scissors_: asdrabael: Where could they even hock professional news gear? Will a seedy pawn shop even take it because where are they going to unload it? Is there some underworld market for news gear thats only known in the industry?

I'm not sure it's about the money, although I could be completely wrong.

I worked in news in San Francisco for many moons, and left the business 2 years ago. At the time I left there was an incredible animosity and antagonism towards news crews. It got really bad during the Oscar Grant riot. The Occupy stuff was the icing on the cake. News crews are the bad guys now, and are very easy targets.

/my 2 cents

If news crews didn't always seek out the most extreme whack job they can find at any political rally, maybe there wouldn't be so much animosity.   You became the bad guys because of your own actions.

Why do you think I quit the business? I got tired of fighting the circus atmosphere and trying as hard as I could to squeeze a nugget of news in between stories about singing dogs and latest episode of Dancing with the Stars. There's only so long you can fight the good fight.

Ah, I obviously have misplaced my rage.  Glad you didn't let the industry take away your soul.


It almost crushed my soul though.

I spent 25 years in the business, and when I started I felt like I was actually shedding light on corruption, injustice and government waste. Over the years deregulation and consolidation poisoned the biggest advocate the American people had. I tried to uphold the standards I learned when I first got into the business. When that didn't work I tried to uphold some standards. At some point I realized that I was putting more crap on the air than good stuff. At that point I quit.

And I do mean I quit. On a Tuesday. After the morning news. I walked out and never looked back.

I miss the news. I don't miss the shiat that's masquerading as news. But, I do miss the news.

/not so csb
 
2013-08-03 08:47:54 PM  

theflatline: Bob Falfa: KrispyKritter: Bob Falfa: City Motto:
Oakland: At least we're not Newark.

only the best comedians tell NJ jokes. it's very original.

Let me guess, you're in NJ?
From your profile: Live in the NY tri-state area

This is what people from NJ say because they're embarrassed to admit they live in New Jersey. Same way people who live in Oakland say "I live in the San Francisco Bay area"

Or people from Buffalo or Albany...


What? I honestly don't understand this comment. Nobody in Buffalo says they iive in the NY tri-state area, because they don't. Buffalo is Upstate New York.

Quick tutorial :The state of New York has 3 sections; the New York City, Long Island, and Upstate. I was raised about an hour north of the city, but ask somebody in Manhattan, they'll tell you I'm from Upstate. Very simple.
 
2013-08-03 08:49:58 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Poverty strikes again.


No, that was for Trayvon.
 
2013-08-03 08:50:26 PM  

anfrind: KrispyKritter: Bob Falfa: City Motto:
Oakland: At least we're not Newark.

only the best comedians tell NJ jokes. it's very original.

Newark, CA


Zing!
 
2013-08-03 08:51:11 PM  

theflatline: 100 Watt Walrus: Bob Falfa: Same way people who live in Oakland say "I live in the San Francisco Bay area"

No we don't.

You sound white.


I'm Oaklandish.
 
2013-08-03 08:52:01 PM  

Bob Falfa: theflatline: Bob Falfa: KrispyKritter: Bob Falfa: City Motto:
Oakland: At least we're not Newark.

only the best comedians tell NJ jokes. it's very original.

Let me guess, you're in NJ?
From your profile: Live in the NY tri-state area

This is what people from NJ say because they're embarrassed to admit they live in New Jersey. Same way people who live in Oakland say "I live in the San Francisco Bay area"

Or people from Buffalo or Albany...

What? I honestly don't understand this comment. Nobody in Buffalo says they iive in the NY tri-state area, because they don't. Buffalo is Upstate New York.

Quick tutorial :The state of New York has 3 sections; the New York City, Long Island, and Upstate. I was raised about an hour north of the city, but ask somebody in Manhattan, they'll tell you I'm from Upstate. Very simple.


I actually have met many people from both places, who say they are from new york, and they miss the city, and then you find out where they are really from.  We get tons of transplants here in Florida who think it gives them more street cred if they say they are from New York, but never mention what part, like we assume the city...

I am from New Orleans proper.  But people from Kenner, Metairie, the north shore, etc will just say New Orleans.
 
2013-08-03 08:53:21 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: Bob Falfa: Same way people who live in Oakland say "I live in the San Francisco Bay area"

No we don't.


In my experience, most do.

If you're overseas and somebody asks you where you live, do you immediately answer "Oakland"? Or do you start with "California", then "San Francisco Bay area", then "Oakland"?
 
2013-08-03 08:53:59 PM  
Woah.  My dad worked for ABC in the 70s and his crew was robbed at gunpoint in Florida.  Now the thief has resurfaced 35 years later.  Father I will avenge thee!
 
2013-08-03 08:54:51 PM  

rhiannon: Runs_With_Scissors_: The Occupy stuff was the icing on the cake.

Oh I've meaning to ask, what happened to those folks anyway? Did they get jobs or something? I don't hear about them anymore.


I have no idea. I left the San Francisco a year ago.

I will tell you this, and it is the absolute truth:  I was instructed not to do Occupy stories, that it was giving them attention. I also worked with a 27 year-old assignment editor who found protests 'boring', regardless the cause. She also continually confused the Viet Nam and Korean wars.

Stories.... Do I have stories.
 
2013-08-03 08:55:20 PM  

Tony_Pepperoni: Pregnant in Oakland Parking Lot Brawl  http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ba0_1279314392


I can't believe that! Those people are sick and then the whole community gets in on it! This is why thing are so bad....... :(
 
2013-08-03 08:55:44 PM  

Bob Falfa: City Motto:
Oakland: At least we're not Newark Hayward.


Fixed
 
2013-08-03 08:56:35 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: Walking distance to BART, Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, a movie theater, a public rose garden, the lake (with botanical garden, bird preserve, and Childrens' Fairlyland)


Ah, you must live near my friends there. We walked to a Whole Foods for lunch one day then went and explored this huge church.
 
2013-08-03 08:57:08 PM  

Pappas: ABC News and the local Oakland ABC affiliated news operation are not the same thing. I really wish more people understood this.


KGO-TV is based in the ABC Entertainment Center in San Francisco, and is an ABC affiliate. The network in New York often takes feeds and stories from them.
 
2013-08-03 08:58:20 PM  

Abox: Woah.  My dad worked for ABC in the 70s and his crew was robbed at gunpoint in Florida.  Now the thief has resurfaced 35 years later.  Father I will avenge thee!


Use the Force, Luke.
 
2013-08-03 09:05:13 PM  

Mattyb710: So the security guard was there to do what exactly?


The same thing as the "Beware of Dog" sticker in my neighbour's window. The one with the toy poodle.
 
2013-08-03 09:06:12 PM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: rhiannon: Runs_With_Scissors_: The Occupy stuff was the icing on the cake.

Oh I've meaning to ask, what happened to those folks anyway? Did they get jobs or something? I don't hear about them anymore.

I have no idea. I left the San Francisco a year ago.

I will tell you this, and it is the absolute truth:  I was instructed not to do Occupy stories, that it was giving them attention. I also worked with a 27 year-old assignment editor who found protests 'boring', regardless the cause. She also continually confused the Viet Nam and Korean wars.

Stories.... Do I have stories.


I worked for a company out of San Francisco and I had to fly out and live there for a week out of every month.

It is the least liberal place I have ever been to, all the equality talk was lip service.  The people who were really cool were native Californians, not the people who moved there from a fly over state to reinvent themselves.

I dated a vietnamese girl from Oakland and I really never had any problem there.  It can be a little hairy, but then again I lived in Colombia during Escobar times.  She said I did not have to worry about being in Oakland because you could hear the "soul" in my voice.

However, in San Francisco proper I was insulted by white folk because of my southern accent and when I spoke spanish I was told "you are pretty white looking for a mexican".
 
2013-08-03 09:06:55 PM  
Oakland, where riots break out over new air jordans.
 
2013-08-03 09:07:53 PM  
Also? While not widely reported, but known to all members of the press and police presence at both the Oscar Grant riot, and the Occupy protests-turned-riots is that there were anarchists who would show up with the specific intention of starting shiat. the ones who were arrested all came from outside of the county. Many from hundreds of miles away. They showed up to start shiat, and the police finished it. Most of the unidentified black-clad shiat starters got away.

There was speculation that a good number of these infiltrators were government folks. I couldn't tell you one way or the other, as I was not allowed to investigate the claims or cover the story.
 
2013-08-03 09:08:30 PM  

Bob Falfa: 100 Watt Walrus: Bob Falfa: Same way people who live in Oakland say "I live in the San Francisco Bay area"

No we don't.

In my experience, most do.

If you're overseas and somebody asks you where you live, do you immediately answer "Oakland"? Or do you start with "California", then "San Francisco Bay area", then "Oakland"?


Sure, if you're overseas. SF is known world-wide. Oakland is not.
 
2013-08-03 09:12:30 PM  

theflatline: Runs_With_Scissors_: rhiannon: Runs_With_Scissors_: The Occupy stuff was the icing on the cake.

Oh I've meaning to ask, what happened to those folks anyway? Did they get jobs or something? I don't hear about them anymore.

I have no idea. I left the San Francisco a year ago.

I will tell you this, and it is the absolute truth:  I was instructed not to do Occupy stories, that it was giving them attention. I also worked with a 27 year-old assignment editor who found protests 'boring', regardless the cause. She also continually confused the Viet Nam and Korean wars.

Stories.... Do I have stories.

I worked for a company out of San Francisco and I had to fly out and live there for a week out of every month.

It is the least liberal place I have ever been to, all the equality talk was lip service.  The people who were really cool were native Californians, not the people who moved there from a fly over state to reinvent themselves.

I dated a vietnamese girl from Oakland and I really never had any problem there.  It can be a little hairy, but then again I lived in Colombia during Escobar times.  She said I did not have to worry about being in Oakland because you could hear the "soul" in my voice.

However, in San Francisco proper I was insulted by white folk because of my southern accent and when I spoke spanish I was told "you are pretty white looking for a mexican".


Dude, you should spend a week in Cincinnati. Or Kansas City. I could go on.

One of the big problems with SF right now is social stratification. All the low income people are being forced out of the city, or in to marginalized areas with no infrastructure, decent schools, jobs or even supermarkets

/it sucks you were treated so poorly there
 
2013-08-03 09:12:57 PM  
Sitting in my loft in Oakland, so I'm getting a kick...


It's easy to know the bad areas. Stay out of them. San Francisco has bad areas, but they like to act as though they don't. Anyone care for a stroll in Hunter's Point?
 
2013-08-03 09:15:03 PM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: Also? While not widely reported, but known to all members of the press and police presence at both the Oscar Grant riot, and the Occupy protests-turned-riots is that there were anarchists who would show up with the specific intention of starting shiat. the ones who were arrested all came from outside of the county. Many from hundreds of miles away. They showed up to start shiat, and the police finished it. Most of the unidentified black-clad shiat starters got away.

There was speculation that a good number of these infiltrators were government folks. I couldn't tell you one way or the other, as I was not allowed to investigate the claims or cover the story.


I doubt they were "government folks," but they're almost certainly not local, and definitely not interested in the purpose of the protests.
 
2013-08-03 09:15:14 PM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: I will tell you this, and it is the absolute truth: I was instructed not to do Occupy stories, that it was giving them attention. I also worked with a 27 year-old assignment editor who found protests 'boring', regardless the cause. She also continually confused the Viet Nam and Korean wars.


People get sick of Occupy stories though. They'd been covered enough.. people will just change the channel. At some point you have to cut it out.
 
2013-08-03 09:19:14 PM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: theflatline: Runs_With_Scissors_: rhiannon: Runs_With_Scissors_: The Occupy stuff was the icing on the cake.

Oh I've meaning to ask, what happened to those folks anyway? Did they get jobs or something? I don't hear about them anymore.

I have no idea. I left the San Francisco a year ago.

I will tell you this, and it is the absolute truth:  I was instructed not to do Occupy stories, that it was giving them attention. I also worked with a 27 year-old assignment editor who found protests 'boring', regardless the cause. She also continually confused the Viet Nam and Korean wars.

Stories.... Do I have stories.

I worked for a company out of San Francisco and I had to fly out and live there for a week out of every month.

It is the least liberal place I have ever been to, all the equality talk was lip service.  The people who were really cool were native Californians, not the people who moved there from a fly over state to reinvent themselves.

I dated a vietnamese girl from Oakland and I really never had any problem there.  It can be a little hairy, but then again I lived in Colombia during Escobar times.  She said I did not have to worry about being in Oakland because you could hear the "soul" in my voice.

However, in San Francisco proper I was insulted by white folk because of my southern accent and when I spoke spanish I was told "you are pretty white looking for a mexican".

Dude, you should spend a week in Cincinnati. Or Kansas City. I could go on.

One of the big problems with SF right now is social stratification. All the low income people are being forced out of the city, or in to marginalized areas with no infrastructure, decent schools, jobs or even supermarkets

/it sucks you were treated so poorly there


I had a good time, I laughed it all off, and I was with a vietnamese girl with natural 38 dds.  I did have a waitress on fishermans wharf read me the riot act when I pointed at a baby sea lion and asked for it medium rare.  Seems like she though I was serious.
 
2013-08-03 09:19:39 PM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: I'll just leave this here:

Come visit Oak Land!

The crown jewel of the East Bay!


That video is misleading.  I've actually been to Oakland, and it is not the nice place that video would have you believe.
 
2013-08-03 09:22:38 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: Bob Falfa: 100 Watt Walrus: Bob Falfa: Same way people who live in Oakland say "I live in the San Francisco Bay area"

No we don't.

In my experience, most do.

If you're overseas and somebody asks you where you live, do you immediately answer "Oakland"? Or do you start with "California", then "San Francisco Bay area", then "Oakland"?

Sure, if you're overseas. SF is known world-wide. Oakland is not.


Heck, I'm from the Detroit burbs and when someone outside of Michigan asked where I was from, I'd say Detroit.  And let's face it, that's not a place where you want to be from.
 
2013-08-03 09:23:51 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: Bit'O'Gristle: Officials say three men accosted the KGO-TV crew around 2:30 p.m. Friday in West Oakland. At least one had a gun.

/sighs, another example of hiding the race of the suspects. They seem to have no problem saying "white males, hispanic males, " but if they were black, they wont give a suspect description at all. Don't hate, you have seen it just as much as i have.

Why are people like you so obsessed with race? There wasn't  any description of the suspects  at all. If TFA  describedthe suspects and left out race, you'd have a point. But what you have here is nothing but a red flag that you're obsessed with race.


That's the point.  You know they were black because the story gave no description at all.  Had they been any other race, there would have been a full description down to clothing, facial hair, and birth marks.
 
2013-08-03 09:27:11 PM  
I don't see why Oakland has so much crime when they have all these attractive and successful people?
 
2013-08-03 09:28:10 PM  
Nice to see the Raiders' training program is spinning up nicely for the pre-season
 
2013-08-03 09:30:43 PM  
Oakland police say a television news crew was robbed of camera equipment at gunpoint in broad daylight even while accompanied by a security guard.

---- A BIG FAT TUBBY SECURITY GUARD WHO DIDN'T HAVE A GUN.
 
2013-08-03 09:38:26 PM  
The news crew should get better cameras...

cdn.shopify.com
 
2013-08-03 09:39:04 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: Runs_With_Scissors_: Also? While not widely reported, but known to all members of the press and police presence at both the Oscar Grant riot, and the Occupy protests-turned-riots is that there were anarchists who would show up with the specific intention of starting shiat. the ones who were arrested all came from outside of the county. Many from hundreds of miles away. They showed up to start shiat, and the police finished it. Most of the unidentified black-clad shiat starters got away.

There was speculation that a good number of these infiltrators were government folks. I couldn't tell you one way or the other, as I was not allowed to investigate the claims or cover the story.

I doubt they were "government folks," but they're almost certainly not local, and definitely not interested in the purpose of the protests.


They were just interested in breaking some shiat that wasn't theirs and they didn't have to look at later. Farkers.
 
2013-08-03 09:43:37 PM  

Mattyb710: So the security guard was there to do what exactly?


Draw unwanted attention.
 
2013-08-03 09:45:46 PM  

TOSViolation: 100 Watt Walrus: Bit'O'Gristle: Officials say three men accosted the KGO-TV crew around 2:30 p.m. Friday in West Oakland. At least one had a gun.

/sighs, another example of hiding the race of the suspects. They seem to have no problem saying "white males, hispanic males, " but if they were black, they wont give a suspect description at all. Don't hate, you have seen it just as much as i have.

Why are people like you so obsessed with race? There wasn't  any description of the suspects  at all. If TFA  describedthe suspects and left out race, you'd have a point. But what you have here is nothing but a red flag that you're obsessed with race.

That's the point.  You know they were black because the story gave no description at all.  Had they been any other race, there would have been a full description down to clothing, facial hair, and birth marks.


It was a 130-word blurb, not a full story. There were  no details provided. No details about where they were other than "West Oakland," which is a pretty broad description, there were no details about who the reporters were. It. Was. A. Blurb.

You can say what would have been done in different circumstances all you want, but saying it doesn't make it true. Are there cases in which the race of the suspects is deliberately left out? I'm sure there are. Are those cases always when the suspects are black? Unless you have some data to back up that assertion, you have nothing but your racial poutrage.
 
2013-08-03 09:51:51 PM  

Penman: Runs_With_Scissors_: I will tell you this, and it is the absolute truth: I was instructed not to do Occupy stories, that it was giving them attention. I also worked with a 27 year-old assignment editor who found protests 'boring', regardless the cause. She also continually confused the Viet Nam and Korean wars.

People get sick of Occupy stories though. They'd been covered enough.. people will just change the channel. At some point you have to cut it out.


It depends on how you cover a story, how long the piece is and how good your reporter is as to how compelling an on-going story is.

There's plenty of time in any news cast to cover breaking news and on-going stories.  At the end of my tenure I had 25% of the staff I started with, and twice as much time to fill. The reporters were all the youngest and least able to put things in concise context - and they were expected to produce 3 times as much work as the veteran news people they dumped unceremoniously. I did not have enough reporters, editors and producers to fill that time effectively. Thus, the crap you get now.

Just curious: Why were you sick of the Occupy stories? This is not a set up question.
 
2013-08-03 09:53:21 PM  

TOSViolation: Runs_With_Scissors_: I'll just leave this here:

Come visit Oak Land!

The crown jewel of the East Bay!

That video is misleading.  I've actually been to Oakland, and it is not the nice place that video would have you believe.


OK. I laughed out loud.
 
2013-08-03 09:54:57 PM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: 100 Watt Walrus: I doubt they were "government folks," but they're almost certainly not local, and definitely not interested in the purpose of the protests.

They were just interested in breaking some shiat that wasn't theirs and they didn't have to look at later. Farkers.


Yup. And it's unfortunate that Oakland has become a protesting mecca, because the city can ill afford when marches become riots at the hands of farktards who have no interest in free speech, but rather just want either chaos or free stuff from broken store windows. I'd love to see the protest organizers work on ways to police themselves and squelch the bad actors. Of course, I'd also love the see the police act more forcefully against the troublemakers in these crowds.
 
2013-08-03 09:57:05 PM  

RussianPooper: Sitting in my loft in Oakland, so I'm getting a kick...

It's easy to know the bad areas. Stay out of them. San Francisco has bad areas, but they like to act as though they don't. Anyone care for a stroll in Hunter's Point?


Last time I was visiting SF I think I saw more emergency vehicles in a week than I saw in the 5 years that I lived there. I also saw a guy get dropped to the pavement and kicked repeatedly right across the street from me in full view of a crowd of people in the Mission. Cops drove by a couple minutes later and didn't even slow down.
 
2013-08-03 10:03:22 PM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: TOSViolation: Runs_With_Scissors_: I'll just leave this here:

Come visit Oak Land!

The crown jewel of the East Bay!

That video is misleading.  I've actually been to Oakland, and it is not the nice place that video would have you believe.

OK. I laughed out loud.


True, the jay walkers move much slower than that.
 
2013-08-03 10:04:02 PM  

TOSViolation: 100 Watt Walrus: Bit'O'Gristle: Officials say three men accosted the KGO-TV crew around 2:30 p.m. Friday in West Oakland. At least one had a gun.

/sighs, another example of hiding the race of the suspects. They seem to have no problem saying "white males, hispanic males, " but if they were black, they wont give a suspect description at all. Don't hate, you have seen it just as much as i have.

Why are people like you so obsessed with race? There wasn't  any description of the suspects  at all. If TFA  describedthe suspects and left out race, you'd have a point. But what you have here is nothing but a red flag that you're obsessed with race.

That's the point.  You know they were black because the story gave no description at all.  Had they been any other race, there would have been a full description down to clothing, facial hair, and birth marks.


I have stopped laughing, and have farkied you: bigot

Why don't you go ahead and find on the Oakland PD web site any information about this crime. Please, proceed, Governor. Please tell me where one can find the information as to what race the robbers were.

Unless you have ever tried to prize information out of the black hole that is the Oakland Police Department, kindly go take a seat in the corner. The adults are talking.
 
2013-08-03 10:07:07 PM  
Pictures or it didn't happen....
 
2013-08-03 10:08:03 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: Runs_With_Scissors_: 100 Watt Walrus: I doubt they were "government folks," but they're almost certainly not local, and definitely not interested in the purpose of the protests.

They were just interested in breaking some shiat that wasn't theirs and they didn't have to look at later. Farkers.

Yup. And it's unfortunate that Oakland has become a protesting mecca, because the city can ill afford when marches become riots at the hands of farktards who have no interest in free speech, but rather just want either chaos or free stuff from broken store windows. I'd love to see the protest organizers work on ways to police themselves and squelch the bad actors. Of course, I'd also love the see the police act more forcefully against the troublemakers in these crowds.


THIS

The problem is the peaceful people tend to think they can reason with the anarchists. Those in charge need to work closely with police to isolate and arrest those who have come with the intention of destruction. That way the police don't lump everyone into one group. That, and the police need to be a ton less aggressive with peaceful protesters. But, that's another story...
 
2013-08-03 10:12:22 PM  

KenShabby: Runs_With_Scissors_: TOSViolation: Runs_With_Scissors_: I'll just leave this here:

Come visit Oak Land!

The crown jewel of the East Bay!

That video is misleading.  I've actually been to Oakland, and it is not the nice place that video would have you believe.

OK. I laughed out loud.

True, the jay walkers move much slower than that.


CBS: The only time I've had trouble with the Oakland PD was about a year after I moved here - I was literally pulled over for jaywalking. I was crossing a street downtown on my way to BART, I crossed in the middle of the block, and a motorcycle cop who had just turned onto the street gave a quick blast of his lights and siren to get my attention, then pointed to the curb. I mimed like I was driving, hands "on the wheel" and "pulled over" and stepped up onto the curb. When he rode up to me, I asked how fast I was going. As luck would have it, he had a sense of humor about that. And as luck would have it, I still had my old Colorado address on the backpack I was wearing, so I convinced him I was from out of town and didn't know any better. "We do that all the time where I come from, hu-yuck."

The whole time I was thinking, "This is Oakland, man. Surely there's something more important you could be doing with your time."
 
2013-08-03 10:21:03 PM  

fusillade762: OgreMagi: Not all of oakland sucks.  There are actually some high end neighborhoods in that city.  However, if you don't know the city you can easily end up "on the wrong side of town", which is the majority of that shiat-hole city.

Yeah, I have friends that live near Lake Merritt and it's actually quite nice. Last time I was visiting them I felt safer there than I did wandering in SF.


I had a girlfriend that lived not too far from Lake Merritt.  I was always worried that I'd come out of her place one morning to find my car stripped.  It wasn't so much her neighborhood as it was her proximity to bad neighborhoods and crime spillover from there.
 
2013-08-03 10:21:51 PM  
This, of course, is all the fault of the news crew. They had no business stalking these innocent Oaklanders.

If they had stayed in their truck, none of this would have happened.
 
2013-08-03 10:23:52 PM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: theflatline: Runs_With_Scissors_: rhiannon: Runs_With_Scissors_: The Occupy stuff was the icing on the cake.

Oh I've meaning to ask, what happened to those folks anyway? Did they get jobs or something? I don't hear about them anymore.

I have no idea. I left the San Francisco a year ago.

I will tell you this, and it is the absolute truth:  I was instructed not to do Occupy stories, that it was giving them attention. I also worked with a 27 year-old assignment editor who found protests 'boring', regardless the cause. She also continually confused the Viet Nam and Korean wars.

Stories.... Do I have stories.

I worked for a company out of San Francisco and I had to fly out and live there for a week out of every month.

It is the least liberal place I have ever been to, all the equality talk was lip service.  The people who were really cool were native Californians, not the people who moved there from a fly over state to reinvent themselves.

I dated a vietnamese girl from Oakland and I really never had any problem there.  It can be a little hairy, but then again I lived in Colombia during Escobar times.  She said I did not have to worry about being in Oakland because you could hear the "soul" in my voice.

However, in San Francisco proper I was insulted by white folk because of my southern accent and when I spoke spanish I was told "you are pretty white looking for a mexican".

Dude, you should spend a week in Cincinnati. Or Kansas City. I could go on.

One of the big problems with SF right now is social stratification. All the low income people are being forced out of the city, or in to marginalized areas with no infrastructure, decent schools, jobs or even supermarkets

/it sucks you were treated so poorly there


Activists when convenient.  They put a bumper sticker on their car (or bicycle) proclaiming their support for the Dali Lama.  They don't actually donate money or time to any cause, because they have the damn bumper sticker.  That's good enough.

I donate to a couple of charities.  I do not have a single bumper sticker on my car.
 
2013-08-03 10:24:24 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: The whole time I was thinking, "This is Oakland, man. Surely there's something more important you could be doing with your time."



Jaywalkers and pot smokers pose little threat to cops.


/Safety first!
 
2013-08-03 10:24:58 PM  
Wow! Oakland sounds great! I'm really glad my city (Seattle) is pushing to integrate Section 8 housing into legitimate neighborhoods. I sure hope a whole big group of Attractive and Successful people in their 5th generation of poverty stricken, uneducated, single mother households move onto my block.

Don't you guys know? Fearing for the safety of your loved ones is part of equality.
 
2013-08-03 10:25:20 PM  

Amos Quito: This, of course, is all the fault of the news crew. They had no business stalking these innocent Oaklanders.

If they had stayed in their truck, none of this would have happened.


Or if they had just done a piece on Uptown...
 
2013-08-03 10:28:57 PM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: 100 Watt Walrus: Runs_With_Scissors_: 100 Watt Walrus: I doubt they were "government folks," but they're almost certainly not local, and definitely not interested in the purpose of the protests.

They were just interested in breaking some shiat that wasn't theirs and they didn't have to look at later. Farkers.

Yup. And it's unfortunate that Oakland has become a protesting mecca, because the city can ill afford when marches become riots at the hands of farktards who have no interest in free speech, but rather just want either chaos or free stuff from broken store windows. I'd love to see the protest organizers work on ways to police themselves and squelch the bad actors. Of course, I'd also love the see the police act more forcefully against the troublemakers in these crowds.

THIS

The problem is the peaceful people tend to think they can reason with the anarchists. Those in charge need to work closely with police to isolate and arrest those who have come with the intention of destruction. That way the police don't lump everyone into one group. That, and the police need to be a ton less aggressive with peaceful protesters. But, that's another story...


The anarchists are assholes who need to be dealt with the moment they show up for any event.  With repeated pepper spraying and tasering.  Don't call the police for that.  Do it yourself and you'll send a message that self-entitled, immature douche-nuggests (usually with trust funds) won't be tolerated.
 
2013-08-03 10:30:32 PM  
I just hope the news crew was robbed by the same people the news crew falsely portrayed as sympathetic in some prior far-left slanted hit piece.  Karma is a biatch.
 
2013-08-03 10:34:19 PM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: 100 Watt Walrus: Runs_With_Scissors_: 100 Watt Walrus: I doubt they were "government folks," but they're almost certainly not local, and definitely not interested in the purpose of the protests.

They were just interested in breaking some shiat that wasn't theirs and they didn't have to look at later. Farkers.

Yup. And it's unfortunate that Oakland has become a protesting mecca, because the city can ill afford when marches become riots at the hands of farktards who have no interest in free speech, but rather just want either chaos or free stuff from broken store windows. I'd love to see the protest organizers work on ways to police themselves and squelch the bad actors. Of course, I'd also love the see the police act more forcefully against the troublemakers in these crowds.

THIS

The problem is the peaceful people tend to think they can reason with the anarchists. Those in charge need to work closely with police to isolate and arrest those who have come with the intention of destruction. That way the police don't lump everyone into one group. That, and the police need to be a ton less aggressive with peaceful protesters. But, that's another story...


What's really frustrating is that they had the beginnings of this a few years ago with (I think it was) the protests after the Oscar Grant verdict. When bad actors started smashing windows at the Whole Foods, the  crowd stopped them, surrounded them, and essentially held them until police arrived.

That hasn't happened since, and I wish it would.
 
2013-08-03 10:35:44 PM  

Magnanimous_J: Wow! Oakland sounds great! I'm really glad my city (Seattle) is pushing to integrate Section 8 housing into legitimate neighborhoods. I sure hope a whole big group of Attractive and Successful people in their 5th generation of poverty stricken, uneducated, single mother households move onto my block.

Don't you guys know? Fearing for the safety of your loved ones is part of equality.


You clealy know less than nothing about Oakland or Section 8.
 
2013-08-03 10:37:34 PM  

SlothB77: I just hope the news crew was robbed by the same people the news crew falsely portrayed as sympathetic in some prior far-left slanted hit piece.  Karma is a biatch.


What's the weather like in your fantasy land?
 
2013-08-03 10:38:57 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: Magnanimous_J: Wow! Oakland sounds great! I'm really glad my city (Seattle) is pushing to integrate Section 8 housing into legitimate neighborhoods. I sure hope a whole big group of Attractive and Successful people in their 5th generation of poverty stricken, uneducated, single mother households move onto my block.

Don't you guys know? Fearing for the safety of your loved ones is part of equality.

You clealy know less than nothing about Oakland or Section 8.


I don't know much about Oakland. But I do know that in a Seattle neighborhood they built these nice looking condos that are Section 8 across from a nice family park and some 2 bit gang has set up shop there and beats white people into unconsciousness for fun when they aren't paying enough attention.
 
2013-08-03 10:39:33 PM  

theflatline: I actually have met many people from both places, who say they are from new york, and they miss the city, and then you find out where they are really from. We get tons of transplants here in Florida who think it gives them more street cred if they say they are from New York, but never mention what part, like we assume the city...

I am from New Orleans proper. But people from Kenner, Metairie, the north shore, etc will just say New Orleans.


The reason why is because if someone says "I'm from Orange, NJ", the response is "where's that?"

But if you say, I live right outside New York, blamo... people know where that's at.
 
2013-08-03 10:44:50 PM  

Magnanimous_J: 100 Watt Walrus: Magnanimous_J: Wow! Oakland sounds great! I'm really glad my city (Seattle) is pushing to integrate Section 8 housing into legitimate neighborhoods. I sure hope a whole big group of Attractive and Successful people in their 5th generation of poverty stricken, uneducated, single mother households move onto my block.

Don't you guys know? Fearing for the safety of your loved ones is part of equality.

You clealy know less than nothing about Oakland or Section 8.

I don't know much about Oakland. But I do know that in a Seattle neighborhood they built these nice looking condos that are Section 8 across from a nice family park and some 2 bit gang has set up shop there and beats white people into unconsciousness for fun when they aren't paying enough attention.


Seeing how absurdly you exaggerated in your previous post, you'll have to back this up with citations before I'll believe any of it. Not saying you're lying. Just saying you're obviously prone to hyperbole.
 
2013-08-03 10:56:07 PM  

Bob Falfa: This is what people from NJ say because they're embarrassed to admit they live in New Jersey. Same way people who live in Oakland say "I live in the San Francisco Bay area"


Never heard that before, people from Oakland tend to represent their city, I highly doubt they give a shiat about Frisco.
 
2013-08-03 11:04:20 PM  

RussianPooper: Sitting in my loft in Oakland, so I'm getting a kick...


It's easy to know the bad areas. Stay out of them. San Francisco has bad areas, but they like to act as though they don't. Anyone care for a stroll in Hunter's Point?


They can't even acknowledge their homeless problem, weird kind of denial up there. I was told that the yuppies up there actually think San Jose is "ghetto", so they don't have a grip on reality.
 
2013-08-03 11:08:52 PM  

Oldiron_79: Oakland, when Detroit just doesnt suck bad enough for you.


Detroit should make a video like this about Oakland. Detroit: We're not Oakland!
 
2013-08-03 11:09:41 PM  
Two things I will say about this particular string of crimes itself:

1) I'd be willing to bet there was debate at the news stations the area about whether or not to use armed (more expensive) or unarmed security when they go to Oakland to do location reporting. And I'll be the people who argued for armed guards are feeling pretty damn smug right now, and have been giving the penny-pinchers a piece of their mind.

2) Maybe there's a silver lining. Maybe this will lead to fewer pointless reports "live from a place where something happened hours or days ago because we have these satellite vans and we have to do something with them."

/hates local news tropes
//man-on-the-street interviews are the biggest, most useless waste of time in the history of broadcast news
 
2013-08-03 11:10:35 PM  

muck4doo: Bob Falfa: City Motto:
Oakland: At least we're not Newark Hayward.

Fixed


No, no, you're both right. Also, Fremont, Union City, Castro Valley, San Leandro and Richmond.
 
2013-08-03 11:17:13 PM  

mod3072: Detroit: We're not Oakland!


I'd much rather live in Oakland, at least the weather is nice.

/Oakland isn't as bad as its reputation.
 
2013-08-03 11:18:26 PM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: Just curious: Why were you sick of the Occupy stories? This is not a set up question.


Well I know where I work (I'm not a producer or anything but yeah) there's been stories where producers were told "That's enough of that, don't cover this anymore." Probably because we have a certain demographic, and that kind of story doesn't fit the demographic we were trying to reach.
It's not that there's anything personal against Occupy just that people are sick of it.
 
2013-08-03 11:24:37 PM  

KimNorth: 100 Watt Walrus: Bit'O'Gristle: Officials say three men accosted the KGO-TV crew around 2:30 p.m. Friday in West Oakland. At least one had a gun.

/sighs, another example of hiding the race of the suspects. They seem to have no problem saying "white males, hispanic males, " but if they were black, they wont give a suspect description at all. Don't hate, you have seen it just as much as i have.

Why are people like you so obsessed with race? There wasn't  any description of the suspects  at all. If TFA  describedthe suspects and left out race, you'd have a point. But what you have here is nothing but a red flag that you're obsessed with race.

I think that was his point...the media and other-is obsessed with race until it's "that one". It is a bit weird.


Well, they don't want to get mugged again.
 
2013-08-03 11:27:13 PM  

TheJoe03: RussianPooper: Sitting in my loft in Oakland, so I'm getting a kick...


It's easy to know the bad areas. Stay out of them. San Francisco has bad areas, but they like to act as though they don't. Anyone care for a stroll in Hunter's Point?

They can't even acknowledge their homeless problem, weird kind of denial up there. I was told that the yuppies up there actually think San Jose is "ghetto", so they don't have a grip on reality.


I must say that having moved here from the Detroit area, it's really weird to hear the difference between the use of the word "ghetto".

Ghetto in Detroit means this:  http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/09/20/google-maps-catches-teens-with - gun/

Meanwhile, I've had friends tell me in all seriousness (while living in Mountain View) that Sunnyvale is really ghetto because there are "lots of Mexicans".
 
2013-08-03 11:30:01 PM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: TOSViolation: 100 Watt Walrus: Bit'O'Gristle: Officials say three men accosted the KGO-TV crew around 2:30 p.m. Friday in West Oakland. At least one had a gun.

/sighs, another example of hiding the race of the suspects. They seem to have no problem saying "white males, hispanic males, " but if they were black, they wont give a suspect description at all. Don't hate, you have seen it just as much as i have.

Why are people like you so obsessed with race? There wasn't  any description of the suspects  at all. If TFA  describedthe suspects and left out race, you'd have a point. But what you have here is nothing but a red flag that you're obsessed with race.

That's the point.  You know they were black because the story gave no description at all.  Had they been any other race, there would have been a full description down to clothing, facial hair, and birth marks.

I have stopped laughing, and have farkied you: bigot

Why don't you go ahead and find on the Oakland PD web site any information about this crime. Please, proceed, Governor. Please tell me where one can find the information as to what race the robbers were.

Unless you have ever tried to prize information out of the black hole that is the Oakland Police Department, kindly go take a seat in the corner. The adults are talking.


I fancy myself pretty good at this, and yet here's the best I can give you:

Slightly more detailed article, complete with pictures of robbed camera people: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/KGO-TV-crew-robbed-in-Oakland-4 7 04823.php

NY times articles about the rash of Oakland news crew robberies over the past few months: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/04/business/media/photojournalists-in- o akland-face-epidemic-of-camera-robberies.html?pagewanted=all

The latter article even had this gem: ""We're not going to go door to door anymore," said a television reporter who spoke on the condition of anonymity because his station would not authorize him to speak publicly."

So if the guy speaks publicly, he loses his job. So in several robberies over the past few months, either no one saw the perps (unlikely, since they were grabbing things right off their laps and necks in some cases), or what I consider far more likely, they're not being allowed to say because it's "not PC."

Farky me any color you want, but when magically no race appears even when they should be posting witness sketches and printing descriptions, the perp is almost always black.

News organizations admit to it, too: http://www.examiner.com/article/should-race-play-a-role-how-the-media - reports-crime
 
2013-08-03 11:33:07 PM  

meyerkev: I must say that having moved here from the Detroit area, it's really weird to hear the difference between the use of the word "ghetto".

Ghetto in Detroit means this:  http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/09/20/google-maps-catches-teens-with - gun/

Meanwhile, I've had friends tell me in all seriousness (while living in Mountain View) that Sunnyvale is really ghetto because there are "lots of Mexicans".


It's not that "ghetto" means something different in the Bay Area than it means in Detroit. It's that you're encountering more people who don't have the slightest clue what "ghetto" actually means.

It's a good way to gauge their connection with the real world. Anyone who think's Sunnyvale is remotely "ghetto" is someone whose opinions on urban problems can be justifiably dismissed.
 
2013-08-03 11:37:34 PM  

Vector R: I fancy myself pretty good at this, and yet here's the best I can give you:

Slightly more detailed article, complete with pictures of robbed camera people: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/KGO-TV-crew-robbed-in-Oakland-4 7 04823.php

NY times articles about the rash of Oakland news crew robberies over the past few months: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/04/business/media/photojournalists-in- o akland-face-epidemic-of-camera-robberies.html?pagewanted=all

The latter article even had this gem: ""We're not going to go door to door anymore," said a television reporter who spoke on the condition of anonymity because his station would not authorize him to speak publicly."

So if the guy speaks publicly, he loses his job. So in several robberies over the past few months, either no one saw the perps (unlikely, since they were grabbing things right off their laps and necks in some cases), or what I consider far more likely, they're not being allowed to say because it's "not PC."

Farky me any color you want, but when magically no race appears even when they should be posting witness sketches and printing descriptions, the perp is almost always black.

Or maybe...just maybe...the station prefers to make an official statement about the crime at hand, rather than having every camera man and reporter making their own statements to other press.

You deserve to be farkied as an astounding nitwit for assuming "his station would not authorize him to speak publicly" translates as "his station doesn't want him saying the perps were black."

 
2013-08-03 11:38:38 PM  
HTML fail. I'll restate here for the sake of clarifying which part of my reply above was mine:

Or maybe...just maybe...the station prefers to make an official statement about the crime at hand, rather than having every camera man and reporter making their own statements to other press.

You deserve to be farkied as an astounding nitwit for assuming "his station would not authorize him to speak publicly" translates as "his station doesn't want him saying the perps were black."
 
2013-08-03 11:39:07 PM  
35 years ago this could have been obama
 
2013-08-03 11:42:23 PM  

numbone: B. E. T. now has a news crew.


snort
 
2013-08-03 11:44:23 PM  

Penman: Runs_With_Scissors_: Just curious: Why were you sick of the Occupy stories? This is not a set up question.

Well I know where I work (I'm not a producer or anything but yeah) there's been stories where producers were told "That's enough of that, don't cover this anymore." Probably because we have a certain demographic, and that kind of story doesn't fit the demographic we were trying to reach.
It's not that there's anything personal against Occupy just that people are sick of it.


I'm specifically referring to the beginning of Occupy. The very beginning. There wasn't time for story fatigue to set in. Thousands of people were walking the streets in both Oakland and San Francisco and I had orders from upper management to kill the story.
 
2013-08-03 11:44:35 PM  
Also...

Vector R: ...complete with pictures of robbed camera people...


Wrong. The caption clearly states the image is a FILE PHOTO of a film crew from a DIFFERENT STATION. And, BTW, the reporter shown in that photo has not been reported as being involved in any of these incidents.
 
2013-08-03 11:51:34 PM  

TheJoe03: They can't even acknowledge their homeless problem, weird kind of denial up there. I was told that the yuppies up there actually think San Jose is "ghetto", so they don't have a grip on reality.


San Francisco and San Jose do have one thing in common.  San Jose has a problem with homeless encampments that went largely ignored until Caltrans cleared the one under the CA-87/I-280 interchange (I think it happened this year?), and the former residents moved to an empty field next door to the airport--a much more visible location.

I don't know what happened after that, but I don't think they all moved to that field.  In the following weeks, I also ran into homeless people near the Sunnyvale Caltrain station (a man sleeping on the Mathilda overpass) and the Rivermark in Santa Clara (an old woman collecting garbage).  Prior to that, I had never seen people on the streets of those cities who were obviously homeless.
 
2013-08-03 11:53:35 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: HTML fail. I'll restate here for the sake of clarifying which part of my reply above was mine:

Or maybe...just maybe...the station prefers to make an official statement about the crime at hand, rather than having every camera man and reporter making their own statements to other press.

You deserve to be farkied as an astounding nitwit for assuming "his station would not authorize him to speak publicly" translates as "his station doesn't want him saying the perps were black."


Wouldn't it make for a nice exclusive to have their camera people speaking in the station on the robbery, though? Also, wouldn't releasing descriptions help capture the perps?

I can find more info on most stories out there, yet not this one, or any of the related crimes. One person spoke out saying his station wasn't allowing him to speak on the matter, despite it being better than a lot of the tripe being reported these days. Is there a different conclusion I should be drawing here on all of the above?
 
2013-08-03 11:55:08 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: Also...

Vector R: ...complete with pictures of robbed camera people...

Wrong. The caption clearly states the image is a FILE PHOTO of a film crew from a DIFFERENT STATION. And, BTW, the reporter shown in that photo has not been reported as being involved in any of these incidents.


My bad, I didn't catch that part.
 
2013-08-03 11:55:49 PM  

Vector R: I can find more info on most stories out there, yet not this one, or any of the related crimes. One person spoke out saying his station wasn't allowing him to speak on the matter, despite it being better than a lot of the tripe being reported these days. Is there a different conclusion I should be drawing here on all of the above?


cdn.crooksandliars.com
 
2013-08-03 11:57:00 PM  

meyerkev: Meanwhile, I've had friends tell me in all seriousness (while living in Mountain View) that Sunnyvale is really ghetto because there are "lots of Mexicans".


Wow, Sunnyvale is the definition of boring and suburban, these yuppies are out of their minds. They'd probably shiat themselves if they went to Eastside SJ, let alone Oakland or Richmond.
 
2013-08-04 12:00:16 AM  
I think this thread deserves a musical break.

You're welcome.
 
2013-08-04 12:00:25 AM  

meyerkev: TheJoe03: RussianPooper: Sitting in my loft in Oakland, so I'm getting a kick...


It's easy to know the bad areas. Stay out of them. San Francisco has bad areas, but they like to act as though they don't. Anyone care for a stroll in Hunter's Point?

They can't even acknowledge their homeless problem, weird kind of denial up there. I was told that the yuppies up there actually think San Jose is "ghetto", so they don't have a grip on reality.

I must say that having moved here from the Detroit area, it's really weird to hear the difference between the use of the word "ghetto".

Ghetto in Detroit means this:  http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/09/20/google-maps-catches-teens-with - gun/

Meanwhile, I've had friends tell me in all seriousness (while living in Mountain View) that Sunnyvale is really ghetto because there are "lots of Mexicans".


I've been told that my area, near the town of Sonoma north of San Francisco, is "really ghetto" because there are lots of Hispanics, and this is a very, very quiet place. I've been here thirty years, and its only gotten *quieter*. There used to be two bars, one next door and one within a block of me, in my residential neighborhood, but over the years, apparently because of re-zoning, the bars disappeared and an up-scale B&B/restaurant went in next door. Still get considered "ghetto"...weird.

Especially when I compare it to Oakland. We used to have to go to Kaiser in Oakland years ago, and we drove scared as hell through some horrible areas before we hit the hospital and the nice neighborhood surrounding it. Often wanted to try the "soul food" or "Chicken and Catfish" restaurants we passed, but we didn't dare get out of the car. *Those* scary areas I would think would be more "ghetto" than mine.

The worst that will happen up here is you die of boredom.
 
2013-08-04 12:02:18 AM  
Vector R:

I fancy myself pretty good at this, and yet here's the best I can give you:

Slightly more detailed article, complete with pictures of robbed camera people: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/KGO-TV-crew-robbed-in-Oakland-4 7 04823.php

NY times articles about the rash of Oakland news crew robberies over the past few months: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/04/business/media/photojournalists-in- o akland-face-epidemic-of-camera-robberies.html?pagewanted=all

The latter article even had this gem: ""We're not going to go door to door anymore," said a television reporter who spoke on the condition of anonymity because his station would not authorize him to speak publ ...


So, the answer is a firm no. No, you can't find anywhere that indicates the race of the robbers. Glad we settled that. I notice you didn't cite anywhere on the Oakland Police Department has a press release with the details. But, go ahead and keep farking that chicken.


News organizations admit to it, too: http://www.examiner.com/article/should-race-play-a-role-how-the-media - reports-crime

Oh farking really? ONE guy with a blog is not 'News Organizations' admitting anything.

Let's look at his his biography, shall we?

Kyle is a Conservative activist in South Carolina. He co-organized the 2006 Greenville, SC rally against the Lindsey Graham/Ted Kennedy sponsored amnesty bill. More than 1,000 people attended. The event helped launch the SC Tea Party movement. He has organized numerous other conservative protests and events as well.

Ahhh... A tea partier with an axe to grind. Why didn't you say so?

Let's look at the first paragraph of FTFA and deconstruct it, shall we?

Ever notice that the media is pushing a political agenda? Certain minor events are reported endlessly while some major events are ignored. It all depends on the political agenda of the news outlet. It is no secret that the agenda is usually a left-wing one.

Yes, yes. News Corp that well known liberal media owned by socialist Rupert Murdock.

We're done here. You can go sit in the corner, too. The adults are still talking.
 
2013-08-04 12:02:35 AM  

anfrind: TheJoe03: They can't even acknowledge their homeless problem, weird kind of denial up there. I was told that the yuppies up there actually think San Jose is "ghetto", so they don't have a grip on reality.

San Francisco and San Jose do have one thing in common.  San Jose has a problem with homeless encampments that went largely ignored until Caltrans cleared the one under the CA-87/I-280 interchange (I think it happened this year?), and the former residents moved to an empty field next door to the airport--a much more visible location.

I don't know what happened after that, but I don't think they all moved to that field.  In the following weeks, I also ran into homeless people near the Sunnyvale Caltrain station (a man sleeping on the Mathilda overpass) and the Rivermark in Santa Clara (an old woman collecting garbage).  Prior to that, I had never seen people on the streets of those cities who were obviously homeless.


There is/was a sizable encampment by the Wal Mart on Story. I heard a bunch of the SF homeless are coming down here now (maybe they like the weather more, who knows). I'd say the difference is that in SJ the homeless aren't as in your face since it's more spacious down here, either way homelessness is one of the biggest problems in this state and it appears no one ever addresses it.
 
2013-08-04 12:04:16 AM  

silvervial: I've been told that my area, near the town of Sonoma north of San Francisco, is "really ghetto" because there are lots of Hispanics, and this is a very, very quiet place.


I think that's it, for some reason the yuppies don't like Latinos. I think the only minorities they like in their neighborhoods are Asians.
 
2013-08-04 12:04:43 AM  

anfrind: Vector R: I can find more info on most stories out there, yet not this one, or any of the related crimes. One person spoke out saying his station wasn't allowing him to speak on the matter, despite it being better than a lot of the tripe being reported these days. Is there a different conclusion I should be drawing here on all of the above?

[cdn.crooksandliars.com image 460x347]


Exactly. Vector R, I think you mean is there a different conclusion you should be jumping to, since that's all you're doing - you're siting a lack of evidence as your evidence.
 
2013-08-04 12:04:48 AM  

anfrind: TheJoe03: They can't even acknowledge their homeless problem, weird kind of denial up there. I was told that the yuppies up there actually think San Jose is "ghetto", so they don't have a grip on reality.

San Francisco and San Jose do have one thing in common.  San Jose has a problem with homeless encampments that went largely ignored until Caltrans cleared the one under the CA-87/I-280 interchange (I think it happened this year?), and the former residents moved to an empty field next door to the airport--a much more visible location.

I don't know what happened after that, but I don't think they all moved to that field.  In the following weeks, I also ran into homeless people near the Sunnyvale Caltrain station (a man sleeping on the Mathilda overpass) and the Rivermark in Santa Clara (an old woman collecting garbage).  Prior to that, I had never seen people on the streets of those cities who were obviously homeless.


Homeless used to be all over downtown San Jose, and were "cleaned out" in the 90's following the prostitute clean out in the 80's. During the 70's and 80's people used to look at you funny if you told them you went downtown. It's nothing like it used to be. Back then it was mostly abandoned buildings, strip clubs, and porno theaters. The prostitution there was notorious in Northern California. Mayor McEnery went on a huge redevelopment project when in office which completely turned down town around, and made billions for himself in the process(He and his family owned a lot of those abandoned buildings and empty lots).
 
2013-08-04 12:09:19 AM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: Also? While not widely reported, but known to all members of the press and police presence at both the Oscar Grant riot, and the Occupy protests-turned-riots is that there were anarchists who would show up with the specific intention of starting shiat. the ones who were arrested all came from outside of the county. Many from hundreds of miles away. They showed up to start shiat, and the police finished it. Most of the unidentified black-clad shiat starters got away.

There was speculation that a good number of these infiltrators were government folks. I couldn't tell you one way or the other, as I was not allowed to investigate the claims or cover the story.


Eh?

That was very widely reported. Not the govt infiltrator conspiracy shiat, but the rest of what you said was all over the tv news.
 
2013-08-04 12:10:29 AM  

muck4doo: Homeless used to be all over downtown San Jose, and were "cleaned out" in the 90's following the prostitute clean out in the 80's.


There's still a whole bunch of hookers all over Virginia and Monterrey and now that Chuck Reed decided to fark over the police crime is back to almost 80s levels. Downtown is getting better but now the rest of the city is declining in a lot of ways.
 
2013-08-04 12:13:56 AM  
Vector R:

Wouldn't it make for a nice exclusive to have their camera people speaking in the station on the robbery, though? Also, wouldn't releasing descriptions help capture the perps?

I can find more info on most stories out there, yet not this one, or any of the related crimes. One person spoke out saying his station wasn't allowing him to speak on the matter, despite it being better than a lot of the tripe being reported these days. Is there a different conclusion I should be drawing here on all of the above?


Clearly, you know nothing how about news is produced. The other stations can't release information they don't have. The OPD is responsible via press releases to disseminate that information.

An axiom in the business is that you don't make yourself part of the news, which is why KGO-TV hasn't reported this. (Besides, think of the lawsuits and union action they likely face.)

You're being disingenuous when you wonder why any employee can't make a statement about their job to the press and not face repercussions. Only the station spokesperson can speak for the station.

Now, go on, Dear, and grab a Popsicle.
 
2013-08-04 12:15:41 AM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: Vector R:

I fancy myself pretty good at this, and yet here's the best I can give you:

Slightly more detailed article, complete with pictures of robbed camera people: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/KGO-TV-crew-robbed-in-Oakland-4 7 04823.php

NY times articles about the rash of Oakland news crew robberies over the past few months: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/04/business/media/photojournalists-in- o akland-face-epidemic-of-camera-robberies.html?pagewanted=all

The latter article even had this gem: ""We're not going to go door to door anymore," said a television reporter who spoke on the condition of anonymity because his station would not authorize him to speak publ ...

So, the answer is a firm no. No, you can't find anywhere that indicates the race of the robbers. Glad we settled that. I notice you didn't cite anywhere on the Oakland Police Department has a press release with the details. But, go ahead and keep farking that chicken.


News organizations admit to it, too: http://www.examiner.com/article/should-race-play-a-role-how-the-media - reports-crime

Oh farking really? ONE guy with a blog is not 'News Organizations' admitting anything.

Let's look at his his biography, shall we?

Kyle is a Conservative activist in South Carolina. He co-organized the 2006 Greenville, SC rally against the Lindsey Graham/Ted Kennedy sponsored amnesty bill. More than 1,000 people attended. The event helped launch the SC Tea Party movement. He has organized numerous other conservative protests and events as well.

Ahhh... A tea partier with an axe to grind. Why didn't you say so?

Let's look at the first paragraph of FTFA and deconstruct it, shall we?

Ever notice that the media is pushing a political agenda? Certain minor events are reported endlessly while some major events are ignored. It all depends on the political agenda of the news outlet. It is no secret that the agenda is usually a left-wing one.

Yes, yes. News Corp that well known liberal media owned by socia ...


Uh, mind a link to that? A search for "Oakland police department press release news crew robberies" turned up a shiatload of other robberies in Oakland, but not that one, or the others. Also, while I'm certainly not a Tea Party fan, you don't expect to find information like that wide out in the open on mainstream media, do you? He lists quotes and sources, and while I may not like the mouthpiece, it doesn't make the words that come out of it necessarily false.
 
2013-08-04 12:17:23 AM  

silvervial: I've been told that my area, near the town of Sonoma north of San Francisco, is "really ghetto" because there are lots of Hispanics, and this is a very, very quiet place. I've been here thirty years, and its only gotten *quieter*. There used to be two bars, one next door and one within a block of me, in my residential neighborhood, but over the years, apparently because of re-zoning, the bars disappeared and an up-scale B&B/restaurant went in next door. Still get considered "ghetto"...weird.

Especially when I compare it to Oakland. We used to have to go to Kaiser in Oakland years ago, and we drove scared as hell through some horrible areas before we hit the hospital and the nice neighborhood surrounding it. Often wanted to try the "soul food" or "Chicken and Catfish" restaurants we passed, but we didn't dare get out of the car. *Those* scary areas I would think would be more "ghetto" than mine.

The worst that will happen up here is you die of boredom.


You must have had really bad directions. Every Kaiser facility in Oakland is pretty much walking distance from a freeway offramp. If you were driving through bad parts of town, you were lost.

We must have very different experienced with bad neighborhoods in general. There isn't anywhere in Oakland I wouldn't "dare get out of the car" during the day. And at night, it's not so much parts of town as it is who you see on the street at any given time. But I'll grant you there are parts of town I wouldn't go to at night without a really good reason. Not because I think I'd be targeted, but because there's just always some shiat going down that I'd rather not have in my proximity.

But years ago I had a very old car and the only place around with the experience to work on it was in a bad part of Oakland. I used to drop my car off there, then walk through the projects to get to BART, and walk from BART through the projects when I went to pick up the car. I got some funny looks, but never had any trouble.

I'm not in those areas as much as I used to be for a variety of reasons. But I don't avoid them.

Of course, your mileage may vary.
 
2013-08-04 12:19:23 AM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: Vector R:

Wouldn't it make for a nice exclusive to have their camera people speaking in the station on the robbery, though? Also, wouldn't releasing descriptions help capture the perps?

I can find more info on most stories out there, yet not this one, or any of the related crimes. One person spoke out saying his station wasn't allowing him to speak on the matter, despite it being better than a lot of the tripe being reported these days. Is there a different conclusion I should be drawing here on all of the above?

Clearly, you know nothing how about news is produced. The other stations can't release information they don't have. The OPD is responsible via press releases to disseminate that information.

An axiom in the business is that you don't make yourself part of the news, which is why KGO-TV hasn't reported this. (Besides, think of the lawsuits and union action they likely face.)

You're being disingenuous when you wonder why any employee can't make a statement about their job to the press and not face repercussions. Only the station spokesperson can speak for the station.

Now, go on, Dear, and grab a Popsicle.


i.imgur.com

 
2013-08-04 12:20:09 AM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: rhiannon: Runs_With_Scissors_: The Occupy stuff was the icing on the cake.

Oh I've meaning to ask, what happened to those folks anyway? Did they get jobs or something? I don't hear about them anymore.

I have no idea. I left the San Francisco a year ago.

I will tell you this, and it is the absolute truth:  I was instructed not to do Occupy stories, that it was giving them attention. I also worked with a 27 year-old assignment editor who found protests 'boring', regardless the cause. She also continually confused the Viet Nam and Korean wars.

Stories.... Do I have stories.


So... why don't you do your own news reports on-line? I would think that having experience and the *slightest* bit of objectivity and impartiality would be welcomed with open arms.

I'm not suggesting it as a new career. But if you miss it, it seems like the occasional opportunity is there.
 
2013-08-04 12:21:31 AM  

silvervial: meyerkev: TheJoe03: RussianPooper: Sitting in my loft in Oakland, so I'm getting a kick...


It's easy to know the bad areas. Stay out of them. San Francisco has bad areas, but they like to act as though they don't. Anyone care for a stroll in Hunter's Point?

They can't even acknowledge their homeless problem, weird kind of denial up there. I was told that the yuppies up there actually think San Jose is "ghetto", so they don't have a grip on reality.

I must say that having moved here from the Detroit area, it's really weird to hear the difference between the use of the word "ghetto".

Ghetto in Detroit means this:  http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/09/20/google-maps-catches-teens-with - gun/

Meanwhile, I've had friends tell me in all seriousness (while living in Mountain View) that Sunnyvale is really ghetto because there are "lots of Mexicans".

I've been told that my area, near the town of Sonoma north of San Francisco, is "really ghetto" because there are lots of Hispanics, and this is a very, very quiet place. I've been here thirty years, and its only gotten *quieter*. There used to be two bars, one next door and one within a block of me, in my residential neighborhood, but over the years, apparently because of re-zoning, the bars disappeared and an up-scale B&B/restaurant went in next door. Still get considered "ghetto"...weird.

Especially when I compare it to Oakland. We used to have to go to Kaiser in Oakland years ago, and we drove scared as hell through some horrible areas before we hit the hospital and the nice neighborhood surrounding it. Often wanted to try the "soul food" or "Chicken and Catfish" restaurants we passed, but we didn't dare get out of the car. *Those* scary areas I would think would be more "ghetto" than mine.

The worst that will happen up here is you die of boredom.


I think that part of it is:

a) Rich yuppies (and software startups create a new meaning of rich) have no idea what ghetto actually is and think that it's only having 4 Thai restaurants in 7 blocks.
b) By Silicon Valley standards, lots of mexicans IS ghetto.  There's just not enough land area to justify having abandoned burned-out lots like they do back in the midwest.  So instead you end up with some sketchy maintenance and LOTS of poor mexicans and that becomes "ghetto" (and then there's EPA, which is dangerous as all fark once you get past Ikea.  How has that area not gentrified yet?).
 
2013-08-04 12:30:33 AM  

100 Watt Walrus: silvervial: I've been told that my area, near the town of Sonoma north of San Francisco, is "really ghetto" because there are lots of Hispanics, and this is a very, very quiet place. I've been here thirty years, and its only gotten *quieter*. There used to be two bars, one next door and one within a block of me, in my residential neighborhood, but over the years, apparently because of re-zoning, the bars disappeared and an up-scale B&B/restaurant went in next door. Still get considered "ghetto"...weird.

Especially when I compare it to Oakland. We used to have to go to Kaiser in Oakland years ago, and we drove scared as hell through some horrible areas before we hit the hospital and the nice neighborhood surrounding it. Often wanted to try the "soul food" or "Chicken and Catfish" restaurants we passed, but we didn't dare get out of the car. *Those* scary areas I would think would be more "ghetto" than mine.

The worst that will happen up here is you die of boredom.

You must have had really bad directions. Every Kaiser facility in Oakland is pretty much walking distance from a freeway offramp. If you were driving through bad parts of town, you were lost.

We must have very different experienced with bad neighborhoods in general. There isn't anywhere in Oakland I wouldn't "dare get out of the car" during the day. And at night, it's not so much parts of town as it is who you see on the street at any given time. But I'll grant you there are parts of town I wouldn't go to at night without a really good reason. Not because I think I'd be targeted, but because there's just always some shiat going down that I'd rather not have in my proximity.

But years ago I had a very old car and the only place around with the experience to work on it was in a bad part of Oakland. I used to drop my car off there, then walk through the projects to get to BART, and walk from BART through the projects when I went to pick up the car. I got some funny looks, but never had any trouble.


Yes, the first time we went, we were *very* lost and it didn't help that I couldn't look at the map because my husband freaked out: "Don't look at the map! You're painting a target on us!" This was years before GPS. And once we learned that route, we stuck to it.

No, we couldn't take the chance of getting out of the car, even in daylight, with a sick child which is why we were going to Kaiser in Oakland in the first place, since they were the only Kaiser in Northern California with a CF program at the time.

We didn't mind the scariness too much, since after the four or five hour appointment (sometimes seeing six doctors), we would go to a really great Thai restaurant up the street and stop by the comic book store.

Yes, we were (and still are) the whitest nerds on the planet.
 
2013-08-04 12:30:47 AM  

muck4doo: Bob Falfa: City Motto:
Oakland: At least we're not Newark Hayward Richmond.


Fixed
 
2013-08-04 12:31:35 AM  

WTP 2: 35 years ago this could have been obama


200 years into the future, it will be.
 
2013-08-04 12:32:56 AM  
Runs_With_Scissors_:
Thanks very much for your posts. I'm an Oaklander and I came in to this thread ready for a lot of Oakland hate talk but you turned it into something very interesting. Sorry you quit your job, but you seem better off for it. At least, I hope you are.

This thread got me to mark a bunch of fellow Oaklanders. Fist bump!

I moved to Oakland ten years ago, and I've come to love being disappointed by it. Or love to hate it? Whatever, it's like a sibling you fight with constantly, but when an outsider threatens him, it's like "DON'T YOU MESS WITH MY BROTHER". Oakland's mine, dammit, it's got problems but I live here and am raising my family and they go to the public schools and we're paying taxes and trying to help and no one else has a right to complain about it.

There's LOTS to like about Oakland. It's affordable. Close to everything. Lots of public transit. Clean air. Great restaurants. Art scene. Live music. Perfect weather -- I'm not exaggerating here. The weather is the best weather *anywhere*. Museums and libraries and parks. All the hills above Oakland are nature preserves - seriously, the pictures below are _from_ _the_ _City_ _of_ _Oakland_. And not just one little park - the entire crest of hills above Oakland.


photos4.meetupstatic.com
www.protoscape.com
www.examiner.com
lorib.me.s3.amazonaws.com

Oh, and when we get asked where we're from, we always say Oakland.
 
2013-08-04 12:33:02 AM  
Vector R:
Uh, mind a link to that? A search for "Oakland police department press release news crew robberies" turned up a shiatload of other robberies in Oakland, but not that one, or the others.

Also, while I'm certainly not a Tea Party fan, you don't expect to find information like that wide out in the open on mainstream media, do you? He lists quotes and sources, and while I may not like the mouthpiece, it doesn't make the words that come out of it necessarily false.



A cite for what? That he's a Tea Partier with an agenda? Click his name at the top of the article you link to, and poof! There's his biography.

No - He does not cite anyone. No one. All his links go back to the blog he writes for. Seriously, it's a feedback loop.

Or, wait? Did you want me to cite News Corps stats like it's the largest news organization in the world 92nd largest media conglomerate) in the world - owned by Rupert Farking Murdock.

That poor, poor chicken.
 
2013-08-04 12:33:11 AM  

meyerkev: b) By Silicon Valley standards, lots of mexicans IS ghetto.  There's just not enough land area to justify having abandoned burned-out lots like they do back in the midwest.  So instead you end up with some sketchy maintenance and LOTS of poor mexicans and that becomes "ghetto" (and then there's EPA, which is dangerous as all fark once you get past Ikea.  How has that area not gentrified yet?).


It's unincorporated, so no city services. That's how it became so bad in the first place.
 
2013-08-04 12:34:27 AM  

silvervial: No, we couldn't take the chance of getting out of the car, even in daylight, with a sick child which is why we were going to Kaiser in Oakland in the first place, since they were the only Kaiser in Northern California with a CF program at the time.


Ah, well that makes sense.
 
2013-08-04 12:39:25 AM  

theflatline: But people from Kenner, Metairie, the north shore, etc will just say New Orleans.


only to people who have no geography skills at all. or if in a hurry or don't really give a shiat about the person i'm taking to. if there is any possibility i might have to react with the person again i disclaim new orleans and explain i actually live on the north shore.

yes there may be nice places in new orleans. freret st actual seems to have turned around. overall in 30+ years i haven't seen much to recommend new orleans. and before you say i'm wrong it's a wonderful place remember lake forest plaza and it's history.
 
2013-08-04 12:41:24 AM  
Satan's Dumptruck Driver:

So... why don't you do your own news reports on-line? I would think that having experience and the *slightest* bit of objectivity and impartiality would be welcomed with open arms.

I'm not suggesting it as a new career. But if you miss it, it seems like the occasional opportunity is there.


I have been thinking this very thing, lately. It's taken me 2 years to even consider writing professionally again, after the unbelievable grind I went through. Farkers almost made me hate it.

The one problem I have is that I live way up in the mountains, far from any urban area. Ethically I find it difficult to cover a story when I can''t go to the scene or talk to witnesses in person.

As for objectivity being welcomed? Not so much in major media these days. It's all owned by Disney, Rupert Murdock, The Dickey Brothers and Bain Capitol.
 
2013-08-04 12:42:32 AM  

StopLurkListen: Runs_With_Scissors_:
Thanks very much for your posts. I'm an Oaklander and I came in to this thread ready for a lot of Oakland hate talk but you turned it into something very interesting. Sorry you quit your job, but you seem better off for it. At least, I hope you are.

This thread got me to mark a bunch of fellow Oaklanders. Fist bump!

I moved to Oakland ten years ago, and I've come to love being disappointed by it. Or love to hate it? Whatever, it's like a sibling you fight with constantly, but when an outsider threatens him, it's like "DON'T YOU MESS WITH MY BROTHER". Oakland's mine, dammit, it's got problems but I live here and am raising my family and they go to the public schools and we're paying taxes and trying to help and no one else has a right to complain about it.

There's LOTS to like about Oakland. It's affordable. Close to everything. Lots of public transit. Clean air. Great restaurants. Art scene. Live music. Perfect weather -- I'm not exaggerating here. The weather is the best weather *anywhere*. Museums and libraries and parks. All the hills above Oakland are nature preserves - seriously, the pictures below are _from_ _the_ _City_ _of_ _Oakland_. And not just one little park - the entire crest of hills above Oakland.


[photos4.meetupstatic.com image 360x273]
[www.protoscape.com image 640x480]
[www.examiner.com image 500x375]
[lorib.me.s3.amazonaws.com image 359x162]

Oh, and when we get asked where we're from, we always say Oakland.


s3-ec.buzzfed.com

 
2013-08-04 12:44:56 AM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: Satan's Dumptruck Driver:

So... why don't you do your own news reports on-line? I would think that having experience and the *slightest* bit of objectivity and impartiality would be welcomed with open arms.

I'm not suggesting it as a new career. But if you miss it, it seems like the occasional opportunity is there.

I have been thinking this very thing, lately. It's taken me 2 years to even consider writing professionally again, after the unbelievable grind I went through. Farkers almost made me hate it.

The one problem I have is that I live way up in the mountains, far from any urban area. Ethically I find it difficult to cover a story when I can''t go to the scene or talk to witnesses in person.

As for objectivity being welcomed? Not so much in major media these days. It's all owned by Disney, Rupert Murdock, The Dickey Brothers and Bain Capitol.


I'm with you, Scissors. I took a "hiatus" from journalism in 2005, and while I think about going back, I just haven't felt the drive to do so. Thinking about it more now tho, as the startup I'm working for is out of cash.
 
2013-08-04 12:46:02 AM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: Vector R:
Uh, mind a link to that? A search for "Oakland police department press release news crew robberies" turned up a shiatload of other robberies in Oakland, but not that one, or the others.

Also, while I'm certainly not a Tea Party fan, you don't expect to find information like that wide out in the open on mainstream media, do you? He lists quotes and sources, and while I may not like the mouthpiece, it doesn't make the words that come out of it necessarily false.


A cite for what? That he's a Tea Partier with an agenda? Click his name at the top of the article you link to, and poof! There's his biography.

No - He does not cite anyone. No one. All his links go back to the blog he writes for. Seriously, it's a feedback loop.

Or, wait? Did you want me to cite News Corps stats like it's the largest news organization in the world 92nd largest media conglomerate) in the world - owned by Rupert Farking Murdock.

That poor, poor chicken.


Hahahaha! See what happens when I don't have editors?

/2nd largest media conglomerate
 
2013-08-04 12:47:49 AM  
You were robbed in  Oakland?!

i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-04 12:50:32 AM  

100 Watt Walrus: Runs_With_Scissors_: Satan's Dumptruck Driver:

So... why don't you do your own news reports on-line? I would think that having experience and the *slightest* bit of objectivity and impartiality would be welcomed with open arms.

I'm not suggesting it as a new career. But if you miss it, it seems like the occasional opportunity is there.

I have been thinking this very thing, lately. It's taken me 2 years to even consider writing professionally again, after the unbelievable grind I went through. Farkers almost made me hate it.

The one problem I have is that I live way up in the mountains, far from any urban area. Ethically I find it difficult to cover a story when I can''t go to the scene or talk to witnesses in person.

As for objectivity being welcomed? Not so much in major media these days. It's all owned by Disney, Rupert Murdock, The Dickey Brothers and Bain Capitol.

I'm with you, Scissors. I took a "hiatus" from journalism in 2005, and while I think about going back, I just haven't felt the drive to do so. Thinking about it more now tho, as the startup I'm working for is out of cash.


It can suck you dry. At the end I was putting in 18 hour days just to feel like the little Dutch boy.

If I go back I know that I will be donating my skills. In that case, I'd probably pick an organization whose work I admire.
 
2013-08-04 12:51:21 AM  

StopLurkListen: Runs_With_Scissors_:
Thanks very much for your posts. I'm an Oaklander and I came in to this thread ready for a lot of Oakland hate talk but you turned it into something very interesting. Sorry you quit your job, but you seem better off for it. At least, I hope you are.

This thread got me to mark a bunch of fellow Oaklanders. Fist bump!

I moved to Oakland ten years ago, and I've come to love being disappointed by it. Or love to hate it? Whatever, it's like a sibling you fight with constantly, but when an outsider threatens him, it's like "DON'T YOU MESS WITH MY BROTHER". Oakland's mine, dammit, it's got problems but I live here and am raising my family and they go to the public schools and we're paying taxes and trying to help and no one else has a right to complain about it.

There's LOTS to like about Oakland. It's affordable. Close to everything. Lots of public transit. Clean air. Great restaurants. Art scene. Live music. Perfect weather -- I'm not exaggerating here. The weather is the best weather *anywhere*. Museums and libraries and parks. All the hills above Oakland are nature preserves - seriously, the pictures below are _from_ _the_ _City_ _of_ _Oakland_. And not just one little park - the entire crest of hills above Oakland.


Oh, and when we get asked where we're from, we always say Oakland.


You're very kind.
 
2013-08-04 12:59:12 AM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: Vector R:
Uh, mind a link to that? A search for "Oakland police department press release news crew robberies" turned up a shiatload of other robberies in Oakland, but not that one, or the others.

Also, while I'm certainly not a Tea Party fan, you don't expect to find information like that wide out in the open on mainstream media, do you? He lists quotes and sources, and while I may not like the mouthpiece, it doesn't make the words that come out of it necessarily false.


A cite for what? That he's a Tea Partier with an agenda? Click his name at the top of the article you link to, and poof! There's his biography.

No - He does not cite anyone. No one. All his links go back to the blog he writes for. Seriously, it's a feedback loop.

Or, wait? Did you want me to cite News Corps stats like it's the largest news organization in the world 92nd largest media conglomerate) in the world - owned by Rupert Farking Murdock.

That poor, poor chicken.


No, I'd like a link to the Oakland PD press release you mentioned. I thoroughly searched their site, and did not find one. Their archives start in March, and searching the other links on there provides nothing.

...Did you even read the article? No "anon" sources here:

John Langley, creator and producer of the TV show COPS bragged to conservative columnist Ben Shapiro that he censors black crime.

Tom Kent, deputy managing editor for standards and production at The Associated Press recently admitted that the AP censors black crime.

Last June Chicago Tribune senior vice president and editor Gerould Kern admitted the newspaper censors black crime in a rather nasty response to his critics.
Kern stated, "we guard against subjecting an entire group of people to suspicion because of the color of their skin."
His admission of guilt came after a series of brutal racially motivated mob attacks against white people in Chicago. The Chicago Tribune censored the race of the perpetrators and concealed the nature of the attacks.


Aaaaand my personal favorite:
Philip Corbett, associate managing editor of the New York Times recently confessed to censoring black crime.
Last March, 18 black males aged 16-27 were arrested for allegedly gang raping an 11 year old Mexican girl in Cleveland, Texas. The radical New Black Panther Party actually held a rally at an all black church demanding the release of the perpetrators. Over one hundred local blacks attended the rally.
The New York Times ran an article that critics say blamed the victim and her family. It also expressed shock that members of the public were supported the accused perps.
However the Times completely censored the fact that the perpetrators are black. The newspapers also portrayed those who were supporting the perps as "Texans."
There was a backlash against the New York Times for their insulting coverage.
The New York Times published a follow-up admitting their first piece "lacked balance."
Philip Corbett, however, defending censoring the race of the perpetrators. He said that mentioning the race of a crime perpetrator does "not really providing any useful information and it could be sort of boiler plate."


 That last two lines are laughable. "Well, we're just going to say that young males did a crime. Everyone be on the lookout for young males!"

Here's a link to another, more detailed story on the camera robberies as well: http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Guards-sought-for-news-crews-in-O a kland-4035104.php
 
2013-08-04 01:01:09 AM  
We are all TRAYVON!!!
 
2013-08-04 01:02:30 AM  

StopLurkListen: Runs_With_Scissors_:
Thanks very much for your posts. I'm an Oaklander and I came in to this thread ready for a lot of Oakland hate talk but you turned it into something very interesting. Sorry you quit your job, but you seem better off for it. At least, I hope you are.

This thread got me to mark a bunch of fellow Oaklanders. Fist bump!

I moved to Oakland ten years ago, and I've come to love being disappointed by it. Or love to hate it? Whatever, it's like a sibling you fight with constantly, but when an outsider threatens him, it's like "DON'T YOU MESS WITH MY BROTHER". Oakland's mine, dammit, it's got problems but I live here and am raising my family and they go to the public schools and we're paying taxes and trying to help and no one else has a right to complain about it.

There's LOTS to like about Oakland. It's affordable. Close to everything. Lots of public transit. Clean air. Great restaurants. Art scene. Live music. Perfect weather -- I'm not exaggerating here. The weather is the best weather *anywhere*. Museums and libraries and parks. All the hills above Oakland are nature preserves - seriously, the pictures below are _from_ _the_ _City_ _of_ _Oakland_. And not just one little park - the entire crest of hills above Oakland.


[photos4.meetupstatic.com image 360x273]
[www.protoscape.com image 640x480]
[www.examiner.com image 500x375]
[lorib.me.s3.amazonaws.com image 359x162]

Oh, and when we get asked where we're from, we always say Oakland.


THIS!!!
/Born here, lived here half my life!!
//Own a home worth 2/3rds as much as I bought it, but that's okay, I'll probably die here anyway....some 50 years from now.
///Friends who moved away after high school who live in the burbs come here every weekend for a little culture - and yes, there is some dazzling, beautiful, fulfilling, enjoyable culture here.
////Oaklandish
//First Fridays are OFF DA HOOK! (great date night with my sweetie)
//Stay outta the bad neighborhoods - you might just get shot accidentally, or (worse) a cop will assault you "accidentally"
 
2013-08-04 01:08:33 AM  
shiat, for a second I thought there was something wrong with Cairo.
 
2013-08-04 01:09:13 AM  

Misconduc: We are all TRAYVON!!!


Except for you apparently. You're a farking genius. A social commentator extraordinaire. Someone with the rapier-like wit and intelligence to waltz late into a thread and post a pithy bon-mot that is a gift to us al, staggering in both its relevance and its insight. You're like Twain, Wilde, and Mencken all rolled into one, you are.
 
2013-08-04 01:09:59 AM  
al = all

/preview is my friend
 
2013-08-04 01:16:20 AM  
Dismantle all the trashed wooden buildings in Motown.

Truck the lumber to Oakland.

Place evenly in the city center.

Light match.
 
2013-08-04 01:25:01 AM  
Vector R:

...Did you even read the article? No "anon" sources here:


Yes, yes I did. I also didn't find one credible link or cite.

John Langley, creator and producer of the TV show COPS bragged to conservative columnist Ben Shapiro that he censors black crime.

Wait. You're citing COPS as a news source?  We should really just stop here.

Tom Kent, deputy managing editor for standards and production at The Associated Press recently admitted that the AP censors black crime.

I need a quote, a link or a written statement saying just that. You can't simply say someone said something - journalists prove it with a quote or a link to a written statement. Then again, he's not a journalist.

Last June Chicago Tribune senior vice president and editor Gerould Kern admitted the newspaper censors black crime in a rather nasty response to his critics. Kern stated, "we guard against subjecting an entire group of people to suspicion because of the color of their skin."

Oh, the horror of treating all the people you write about the same!!! The horror!

Philip Corbett, associate managing editor of the New York Times recently confessed to censoring black crime.

Cite, please. As in a quote, a link or a written statement saying just that. You can't just keep citing an opinion blog that keeps citing itself..

Do run a google on his assertion, "The LA Times issued an official online statement admitting that it was standard practice in the newspaper industry to censor of the race of minority crime perpetrators." The first hit that comes up is his opinion blog. The second hit is Stormfront. The 6th hit is David Duke's site. They all cite his blog. He links and cites no-one.

Here's a link to another, more detailed story on the camera robberies as well: http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Guards-sought-for-news-crews-in-O a kland-4035104.php

But, still no information from the PIO at OPD? No? OK, then.

In short: You've got nothing, son. Go to bed.

/COPS
//as a news source
///really?
 
2013-08-04 01:25:40 AM  

Mattyb710: So the security guard was there to do what exactly?


I'm sure a liberal bastion such as oakland probably didn't or wouldn't allow said security guard to have a gun.  Even the dumbest monkeys understand if the other guy is armed, chances are you gonna get shot.
 
2013-08-04 01:26:21 AM  

100 Watt Walrus: Misconduc: We are all TRAYVON!!!

Except for you apparently. You're a farking genius. A social commentator extraordinaire. Someone with the rapier-like wit and intelligence to waltz late into a thread and post a pithy bon-mot that is a gift to us al, staggering in both its relevance and its insight. You're like Twain, Wilde, and Mencken all rolled into one, you are.


ooooohhhhhhhh snip snap
 
2013-08-04 01:41:10 AM  

bdbdbd: StopLurkListen: Runs_With_Scissors_:
Thanks very much for your posts. I'm an Oaklander and I came in to this thread ready for a lot of Oakland hate talk but you turned it into something very interesting. Sorry you quit your job, but you seem better off for it. At least, I hope you are.

This thread got me to mark a bunch of fellow Oaklanders. Fist bump!

I moved to Oakland ten years ago, and I've come to love being disappointed by it. Or love to hate it? Whatever, it's like a sibling you fight with constantly, but when an outsider threatens him, it's like "DON'T YOU MESS WITH MY BROTHER". Oakland's mine, dammit, it's got problems but I live here and am raising my family and they go to the public schools and we're paying taxes and trying to help and no one else has a right to complain about it.

There's LOTS to like about Oakland. It's affordable. Close to everything. Lots of public transit. Clean air. Great restaurants. Art scene. Live music. Perfect weather -- I'm not exaggerating here. The weather is the best weather *anywhere*. Museums and libraries and parks. All the hills above Oakland are nature preserves - seriously, the pictures below are _from_ _the_ _City_ _of_ _Oakland_. And not just one little park - the entire crest of hills above Oakland.


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Oh, and when we get asked where we're from, we always say Oakland.

THIS!!!
/Born here, lived here half my life!!
//Own a home worth 2/3rds as much as I bought it, but that's okay, I'll probably die here anyway....some 50 years from now.
///Friends who moved away after high school who live in the burbs come here every weekend for a little culture - and yes, there is some dazzling, beautiful, fulfilling, enjoyable culture here.
////Oaklandish
//First Fridays are OFF DA HOOK! (great date night with my sweetie)
//Stay outta the bad neighborhoods - you might just get sho ...


This is now a thread about great places and things to do in Oakland.

- Pizza at Zachary's
- Burritos at Baja Taqueria
- Shrimp Fried Rice from Shan Dong
- Burgers - no wait, spicy curly fries - no wait, the Oreo shakes at Barney's
(Seriously, what do they do differently than everywhere else with those shakes?)
- Ice cream at Fenton's
- Classic movies at the Paramount
- Food, beer and movies at the New Parkway
- Sitting too close in the "balcony" at the Grand Lake Theatre
- Chabot Space & Science Center
- Fairyland
- Saturday Farmers' Market at Splash Pad Park
- The revived Kwik-Way
- Beignet from Powderface (best beignets outside of New Orleans)
- The utterly addictive churros from that little corner stand a couple blocks from Fruitvale BART
- Drinks at Luka's Taproom
- Ribs from Phat Matts - no wait, B-Side - no wait, the Brick Pig House - aw, hell, pretty much any BBQ joint in town (although I was disappointed in Uncle Willie's) where there's a fat middle-aged black guy working the grill (RIP Flint's)
- Lois the Pie Queen
- Oakland Zoo
- Lake Merritt
- Shakespeare in the Park
- Doing morning tai chi with scads of old Chinese folks in the park
- Real Chinatown, not tourist Chinatown
- OAK (soooo much easier than SFO)
- Walkable neighborhoods with architecture from nearly every decade since the 1850s side-by-side
- All the green public-parks space at the tops of the hills
...
 
2013-08-04 01:43:20 AM  

Fade2black: Mattyb710: So the security guard was there to do what exactly?

I'm sure a liberal bastion such as oakland probably didn't or wouldn't allow said security guard to have a gun.  Even the dumbest monkeys understand if the other guy is armed, chances are you gonna get shot.


Your ass seems to be a font of information for you.
 
2013-08-04 02:04:25 AM  

100 Watt Walrus: Misconduc: We are all TRAYVON!!!

Except for you apparently. You're a farking genius. A social commentator extraordinaire. Someone with the rapier-like wit and intelligence to waltz late into a thread and post a pithy bon-mot that is a gift to us al, staggering in both its relevance and its insight. You're like Twain, Wilde, and Mencken all rolled into one, you are.


So this wasn't a justice for trayvon rally?
/had me fooled
 
2013-08-04 02:06:07 AM  

Misconduc: 100 Watt Walrus: Misconduc: We are all TRAYVON!!!

Except for you apparently. You're a farking genius. A social commentator extraordinaire. Someone with the rapier-like wit and intelligence to waltz late into a thread and post a pithy bon-mot that is a gift to us al, staggering in both its relevance and its insight. You're like Twain, Wilde, and Mencken all rolled into one, you are.

So this wasn't a justice for trayvon rally?
/had me fooled


Don't be afraid of doubling down on the derp. I believe in you.
 
2013-08-04 02:18:05 AM  

Fade2black: Mattyb710: So the security guard was there to do what exactly?

I'm sure a liberal bastion such as oakland probably didn't or wouldn't allow said security guard to have a gun.  Even the dumbest monkeys understand if the other guy is armed, chances are you gonna get shot.


Interesting word for a thread that has turned into a discussion of race.
 
2013-08-04 02:27:52 AM  
Interesting egalitarian culture we're building where threads about violent crime become threads about race.  Do you suppose either side of that inconvenient little game of hot potato will ever cut the malarkey?
 
2013-08-04 02:40:07 AM  

Bob Falfa: KrispyKritter: Bob Falfa: City Motto:
Oakland: At least we're not Newark.

only the best comedians tell NJ jokes. it's very original.

Let me guess, you're in NJ?
From your profile: Live in the NY tri-state area

This is what people from NJ say because they're embarrassed to admit they live in New Jersey. Same way people who live in Oakland say "I live in the San Francisco Bay area"


I live in Oakland, and I tell people I live in Oakland.  I know this is the internet, and Fark in particular, but jesus, this thread is full of some crazyass racism.

There is one thing almost all Oaklanders have in common - we want to change the bad parts, and we will fiercely defend the parts of Oakland we love.
 
2013-08-04 02:47:56 AM  
Any time, for whatever reason, portion of any culture starts to think they're entitled to make sh*t worse instead of better, that culture eats a bowl of wang.  If you don't think so, look at Wall St.  We all have our little subcultures that adhere to their own little canons of bad ideas and hypocrisies.  And the people who move money around billions at a time are their biggest cheerleaders.
 
2013-08-04 02:56:37 AM  

frithperson: Bob Falfa: KrispyKritter: Bob Falfa: City Motto:
Oakland: At least we're not Newark.

only the best comedians tell NJ jokes. it's very original.

Let me guess, you're in NJ?
From your profile: Live in the NY tri-state area

This is what people from NJ say because they're embarrassed to admit they live in New Jersey. Same way people who live in Oakland say "I live in the San Francisco Bay area"

I live in Oakland, and I tell people I live in Oakland.  I know this is the internet, and Fark in particular, but jesus, this thread is full of some crazyass racism.

There is one thing almost all Oaklanders have in common - we want to change the bad parts, and we will fiercely defend the parts of Oakland we love.


Amen, neighbor.
 
2013-08-04 02:59:24 AM  

100 Watt Walrus: Bob Falfa: Same way people who live in Oakland say "I live in the San Francisco Bay area"

No we don't.


I live in Martinez. Oaklanders and San Franciscans I've mentioned this to say, "where?"
 
2013-08-04 03:20:40 AM  
Let me try and elucidate my point regarding the racial aspect of this thread.

Assuming honest black people are criminals because most violent crimes are committed by black people is like assuming poor white people are oppressive jerks because most rich people are white.

The endless post-it notes of opprobrium we like to stick on each other's stereotypes falls flat on it's ass for two reasons.

They're largely inaccurate and, and this is important, they don't change the actions or motivations of the those who deserve to wear them.  Calling out a given cultural subset's failings only exacerbates the static between the people calling shenanigans and the shenanigan pullers and doesn't give the group pulling the shenanigans any reason to change their behavior.  Education is often about making people step back from their decisions as group or an individual and say "So, is this sh*t working, so far?"  My guess is "stealin'; sh*t with a gun" has had a limited ROI and a seriously piss poor retirement program.  Runteldat.
 
2013-08-04 03:29:04 AM  

ThighsofGlory: 100 Watt Walrus: Bob Falfa: Same way people who live in Oakland say "I live in the San Francisco Bay area"

No we don't.

I live in Martinez. Oaklanders and San Franciscans I've mentioned this to say, "where?"


I'm not entirely clear what your point is, but it's not surprising that people from a metro area of 100+ cities and towns don't know the names and locations of all of them, especially a smaller one (35k) on the outskirts of the population center.
 
2013-08-04 03:37:10 AM  

100 Watt Walrus: ThighsofGlory: 100 Watt Walrus: Bob Falfa: Same way people who live in Oakland say "I live in the San Francisco Bay area"

No we don't.

I live in Martinez. Oaklanders and San Franciscans I've mentioned this to say, "where?"

I'm not entirely clear what your point is, but it's not surprising that people from a metro area of 100+ cities and towns don't know the names and locations of all of them, especially a smaller one (35k) on the outskirts of the population center.


It's a county seat, like Oakland or SF, twat.
 
2013-08-04 03:50:39 AM  

Jizz Master Zero: muck4doo: Bob Falfa: City Motto:
Oakland: At least we're not Newark Hayward.

Fixed

No, no, you're both right. Also, Fremont, Union City, Castro Valley, San Leandro and Richmond.


The only one you got right on that list was richmond. The rest are random suburbs with lower poverty and crime than oakland.
 
2013-08-04 04:06:17 AM  

100 Watt Walrus: meyerkev: b) By Silicon Valley standards, lots of mexicans IS ghetto.  There's just not enough land area to justify having abandoned burned-out lots like they do back in the midwest.  So instead you end up with some sketchy maintenance and LOTS of poor mexicans and that becomes "ghetto" (and then there's EPA, which is dangerous as all fark once you get past Ikea.  How has that area not gentrified yet?).

It's unincorporated, so no city services. That's how it became so bad in the first place.


What? Epa is a city. It's been incorporated since the early 80s.
 
2013-08-04 04:26:14 AM  

ThighsofGlory: 100 Watt Walrus: ThighsofGlory: 100 Watt Walrus: Bob Falfa: Same way people who live in Oakland say "I live in the San Francisco Bay area"

No we don't.

I live in Martinez. Oaklanders and San Franciscans I've mentioned this to say, "where?"

I'm not entirely clear what your point is, but it's not surprising that people from a metro area of 100+ cities and towns don't know the names and locations of all of them, especially a smaller one (35k) on the outskirts of the population center.

It's a county seat, like Oakland or SF, twat.


What does that even mean? Sf is a county of one city...

No one has heard of martinez because there is no reason to care. Nothing happens there.
 
2013-08-04 04:30:37 AM  

Mattyb710: So the security guard was there to do what exactly?


Depends on how the laws are for private security there. Here in St. Louis a Security Officer can only perform functions and have police powers while on an assigned property. To protect people wherever they go, ie use force deadly or otherwise, you have to be a bodyguard. A Security Officer's license does not allow them to do bodyguard work with that license. You need a separate bodyguard license.

It looks like to me the Security Officer was probably unarmed and wouldn't have been able to do anything legally if he was armed anyway since he wasn't on a defined property. He was there for the illusion of security.

Unarmed security officers are much cheaper than trained bodyguards.
 
2013-08-04 04:36:41 AM  
Who actually say "San Francisco Bay Area" anyway? It's the Bay Area.
 
2013-08-04 04:41:11 AM  

theflatline: Runs_With_Scissors_: rhiannon: Runs_With_Scissors_: The Occupy stuff was the icing on the cake.

Oh I've meaning to ask, what happened to those folks anyway? Did they get jobs or something? I don't hear about them anymore.

I have no idea. I left the San Francisco a year ago.

I will tell you this, and it is the absolute truth:  I was instructed not to do Occupy stories, that it was giving them attention. I also worked with a 27 year-old assignment editor who found protests 'boring', regardless the cause. She also continually confused the Viet Nam and Korean wars.

Stories.... Do I have stories.

I worked for a company out of San Francisco and I had to fly out and live there for a week out of every month.

It is the least liberal place I have ever been to, all the equality talk was lip service.  The people who were really cool were native Californians, not the people who moved there from a fly over state to reinvent themselves.

I dated a vietnamese girl from Oakland and I really never had any problem there.  It can be a little hairy, but then again I lived in Colombia during Escobar times.  She said I did not have to worry about being in Oakland because you could hear the "soul" in my voice.

However, in San Francisco proper I was insulted by white folk because of my southern accent and when I spoke spanish I was told "you are pretty white looking for a mexican".


That was my experience as well. I don't have a southern accent; I grew up in Ohio. (And I'm half white.) But as soon as they found out I was traveling from North Carolina they started treating me as if I was some star-struck teenage dropout.

"This must all be a lot of culture shock to you!"

Uh, no. It's like any other large city I've worked in, except that nobody from any of the other cities looked down on me with a lazily masked sense of superiority. It would not surprise me at all if the most irritating people I met there had never been outside of the bay area except to travel abroad.

The most consistently friendly people in SF were the immigrants and the tourists.
 
2013-08-04 05:19:37 AM  

bunner: Assuming honest black people are criminals because most violent crimes are committed by black people is like assuming poor white people are oppressive jerks because most rich people are white.


I wouldn't have to "assume" jack shiat if the news organizations would report the facts.
 
2013-08-04 07:41:31 AM  
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The attackers were described as three dark white hispanic males.
 
2013-08-04 08:15:34 AM  

Thai_Mai_Xhu: WTF?
I thought they only liked to steal stuff they could sell.
This crap is like buying tickets to the joint.


Some thieves act on impulse, without considering whether or not they can actually sell the items they steal.
'
 
2013-08-04 08:21:48 AM  

100 Watt Walrus: Bit'O'Gristle: Officials say three men accosted the KGO-TV crew around 2:30 p.m. Friday in West Oakland. At least one had a gun.

/sighs, another example of hiding the race of the suspects. They seem to have no problem saying "white males, hispanic males, " but if they were black, they wont give a suspect description at all. Don't hate, you have seen it just as much as i have.

Why are people like you so obsessed with race? There wasn't  any description of the suspects  at all. If TFA  describedthe suspects and left out race, you'd have a point. But what you have here is nothing but a red flag that you're obsessed with race.


But of course to the Fark race apologists, he wasn't race baiting. They'll throw that term out at people like you who dare to point out what he was doing.
 
2013-08-04 08:24:59 AM  

KimNorth: 100 Watt Walrus: Bit'O'Gristle: Officials say three men accosted the KGO-TV crew around 2:30 p.m. Friday in West Oakland. At least one had a gun.

/sighs, another example of hiding the race of the suspects. They seem to have no problem saying "white males, hispanic males, " but if they were black, they wont give a suspect description at all. Don't hate, you have seen it just as much as i have.

Why are people like you so obsessed with race? There wasn't  any description of the suspects  at all. If TFA  describedthe suspects and left out race, you'd have a point. But what you have here is nothing but a red flag that you're obsessed with race.

I think that was his point...the media and other-is obsessed with race until it's "that one". It is a bit weird.


Bullshait he was race baiting.
 
2013-08-04 08:28:39 AM  

rkiller1: 100 Watt Walrus: KimNorth: 100 Watt Walrus: Bit'O'Gristle: Officials say three men accosted the KGO-TV crew around 2:30 p.m. Friday in West Oakland. At least one had a gun.

/sighs, another example of hiding the race of the suspects. They seem to have no problem saying "white males, hispanic males, " but if they were black, they wont give a suspect description at all. Don't hate, you have seen it just as much as i have.

Why are people like you so obsessed with race? There wasn't  any description of the suspects  at all. If TFA  describedthe suspects and left out race, you'd have a point. But what you have here is nothing but a red flag that you're obsessed with race.

I think that was his point...the media and other-is obsessed with race until it's "that one". It is a bit weird.

Well if that's his point, he should make the point when it's relevant - when there's a description that might otherwise include race but does not. If he  has a valid point, it's not valid here. This was just an opportunity for a thinly-disgused "those darn darkies" comment.

"Remember folks if you point out instances of bigotry/racism/homophobia YOU are the one with the problem. Them's the new debate rules."


True, you get accused of race baiting, not the person who made the original comment.
 
2013-08-04 08:44:29 AM  
Looking at the post before my first in this thread, damn good timing on my part.
 
2013-08-04 09:37:22 AM  

meyerkev: 100 Watt Walrus: Bob Falfa: 100 Watt Walrus: Bob Falfa: Same way people who live in Oakland say "I live in the San Francisco Bay area"

No we don't.

In my experience, most do.

If you're overseas and somebody asks you where you live, do you immediately answer "Oakland"? Or do you start with "California", then "San Francisco Bay area", then "Oakland"?

Sure, if you're overseas. SF is known world-wide. Oakland is not.

Heck, I'm from the Detroit burbs and when someone outside of Michigan asked where I was from, I'd say Detroit.  And let's face it, that's not a place where you want to be from.


No, Detroit's precisely a place you'd want to be "from".
 
2013-08-04 10:24:05 AM  
When did fark become such a haven for racists?
 
2013-08-04 10:37:25 AM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: Vector R:

I fancy myself pretty good at this, and yet here's the best I can give you:

Slightly more detailed article, complete with pictures of robbed camera people: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/KGO-TV-crew-robbed-in-Oakland-4 7 04823.php

NY times articles about the rash of Oakland news crew robberies over the past few months: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/04/business/media/photojournalists-in- o akland-face-epidemic-of-camera-robberies.html?pagewanted=all

The latter article even had this gem: ""We're not going to go door to door anymore," said a television reporter who spoke on the condition of anonymity because his station would not authorize him to speak publ ...

So, the answer is a firm no. No, you can't find anywhere that indicates the race of the robbers. Glad we settled that. I notice you didn't cite anywhere on the Oakland Police Department has a press release with the details. But, go ahead and keep farking that chicken.


News organizations admit to it, too: http://www.examiner.com/article/should-race-play-a-role-how-the-media - reports-crime

Oh farking really? ONE guy with a blog is not 'News Organizations' admitting anything.

Let's look at his his biography, shall we?

Kyle is a Conservative activist in South Carolina. He co-organized the 2006 Greenville, SC rally against the Lindsey Graham/Ted Kennedy sponsored amnesty bill. More than 1,000 people attended. The event helped launch the SC Tea Party movement. He has organized numerous other conservative protests and events as well.

Ahhh... A tea partier with an axe to grind. Why didn't you say so?

Let's look at the first paragraph of FTFA and deconstruct it, shall we?

Ever notice that the media is pushing a political agenda? Certain minor events are reported endlessly while some major events are ignored. It all depends on the political agenda of the news outlet. It is no secret that the agenda is usually a left-wing one.

Yes, yes. News Corp that well known liberal media owned by socialist Rupert Murdock.

We're done here. You can go sit in the corner, too. The adults are still talking.


The libtards are strong in this comments section.

If a station wagon careened out of control into a farmers market or bank, how old would you assume the driver to be? If some homeless man was getting his face eaten off, what state would you assume it took place? If a teacher is having sex with multiple students, what sex would you assume the teacher was?

::close your eyes::

A news crew gets robbed in Oakland. What race are the robbers most likely to be?

Now, the fact that the news article did NOT report the suspects descriptions means they are withholding information about the crime.

Why withhold information about the crime? Surely the news crew would like thier camera back, right?

The only answer is it could cost them a certain type of viewers and disturb thier leftist agenda about minimizing certain crime statistics.

And Murdock doesn't control the political views/agenda of ALL his news teams and tv shows, especially something like COPS, which has been on the air for 25 years. You really think he's sitting there and viewing each show screaming 'more black crime, Langley!!!'.

White guilt. That's what you feel. And the black community won't do anything to stop the abundance of black crime in this country because you keep telling them its not thier fault.

But please, keep telling us that it *could* have been a white gang of youths. In Oakland. Robbing a local news crew that didn't 'feel' like reporting the race of the robbers.

The real bigots are you.
 
2013-08-04 10:39:54 AM  

Vector R: Runs_With_Scissors_: Vector R:
Uh, mind a link to that? A search for "Oakland police department press release news crew robberies" turned up a shiatload of other robberies in Oakland, but not that one, or the others.

Also, while I'm certainly not a Tea Party fan, you don't expect to find information like that wide out in the open on mainstream media, do you? He lists quotes and sources, and while I may not like the mouthpiece, it doesn't make the words that come out of it necessarily false.


A cite for what? That he's a Tea Partier with an agenda? Click his name at the top of the article you link to, and poof! There's his biography.

No - He does not cite anyone. No one. All his links go back to the blog he writes for. Seriously, it's a feedback loop.

Or, wait? Did you want me to cite News Corps stats like it's the largest news organization in the world 92nd largest media conglomerate) in the world - owned by Rupert Farking Murdock.

That poor, poor chicken.

No, I'd like a link to the Oakland PD press release you mentioned. I thoroughly searched their site, and did not find one. Their archives start in March, and searching the other links on there provides nothing.

...Did you even read the article? No "anon" sources here:

John Langley, creator and producer of the TV show COPS bragged to conservative columnist Ben Shapiro that he censors black crime.

Tom Kent, deputy managing editor for standards and production at The Associated Press recently admitted that the AP censors black crime.

Last June Chicago Tribune senior vice president and editor Gerould Kern admitted the newspaper censors black crime in a rather nasty response to his critics.
Kern stated, "we guard against subjecting an entire group of people to suspicion because of the color of their skin."
His admission of guilt came after a series of brutal racially motivated mob attacks against white people in Chicago. The Chicago Tribune censored the race of the perpetrators and concealed the nature of the attacks.

Aaaaand my personal favorite:
Philip Corbett, associate managing editor of the New York Times recently confessed to censoring black crime.
Last March, 18 black males aged 16-27 were arrested for allegedly gang raping an 11 year old Mexican girl in Cleveland, Texas. The radical New Black Panther Party actually held a rally at an all black church demanding the release of the perpetrators. Over one hundred local blacks attended the rally.
The New York Times ran an article that critics say blamed the victim and her family. It also expressed shock that members of the public were supported the accused perps.
However the Times completely censored the fact that the perpetrators are black. The newspapers also portrayed those who were supporting the perps as "Texans."
There was a backlash against the New York Times for their insulting coverage.
The New York Times published a follow-up admitting their first piece "lacked balance."
Philip Corbett, however, defending censoring the race of the perpetrators. He said that mentioning the race of a crime perpetrator does "not really providing any useful information and it could be sort of boiler plate."

 That last two lines are laughable. "Well, we're just going to say that young males did a crime. Everyone be on the lookout for young males!"

Here's a link to another, more detailed story on the camera robberies as well: http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Guards-sought-for-news-crews-in-O a kland-4035104.php


Exactly.
 
2013-08-04 10:51:47 AM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: Vector R:

...Did you even read the article? No "anon" sources here:


Yes, yes I did. I also didn't find one credible link or cite.

John Langley, creator and producer of the TV show COPS bragged to conservative columnist Ben Shapiro that he censors black crime.

Wait. You're citing COPS as a news source?  We should really just stop here.

Tom Kent, deputy managing editor for standards and production at The Associated Press recently admitted that the AP censors black crime.

I need a quote, a link or a written statement saying just that. You can't simply say someone said something - journalists prove it with a quote or a link to a written statement. Then again, he's not a journalist.

Last June Chicago Tribune senior vice president and editor Gerould Kern admitted the newspaper censors black crime in a rather nasty response to his critics. Kern stated, "we guard against subjecting an entire group of people to suspicion because of the color of their skin."

Oh, the horror of treating all the people you write about the same!!! The horror!

Philip Corbett, associate managing editor of the New York Times recently confessed to censoring black crime.

Cite, please. As in a quote, a link or a written statement saying just that. You can't just keep citing an opinion blog that keeps citing itself..

Do run a google on his assertion, "The LA Times issued an official online statement admitting that it was standard practice in the newspaper industry to censor of the race of minority crime perpetrators." The first hit that comes up is his opinion blog. The second hit is Stormfront. The 6th hit is David Duke's site. They all cite his blog. He links and cites no-one.

Here's a link to another, more detailed story on the camera robberies as well: http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Guards-sought-for-news-crews-in-O a kland-4035104.php

But, still no information from the PIO at OPD? No? OK, then.

In short: You've got nothing, son. Go to bed.

/COPS
//as a news source
///really?


COPs is a reality show. Is this really that hard to comprehend?

Those are not actors. They are real people. And just like the leftist dominated news, it can be skewed to push your libtards agenda. And from the evidence, it most likely is skewed.

Don't believe me, listen to the producer yourself: http://youtu.be/6tLc16_xXlM
 
2013-08-04 11:10:43 AM  

Man On Pink Corner: bunner: Assuming honest black people are criminals because most violent crimes are committed by black people is like assuming poor white people are oppressive jerks because most rich people are white.

I wouldn't have to "assume" jack shiat if the news organizations would report the facts.


Exactly.
 
2013-08-04 11:11:39 AM  
What's up with their security? Sleeping?
 
2013-08-04 11:14:42 AM  

Man On Pink Corner: bunner: Assuming honest black people are criminals because most violent crimes are committed by black people is like assuming poor white people are oppressive jerks because most rich people are white.

I wouldn't have to "assume" jack shiat if the news organizations would report the facts.


The fact that they didn't report a description of the robbers is far, far more telling then the story.
 
2013-08-04 12:21:50 PM  
Loose_Cannon:Those are not actors. They are real people. And just like the leftist dominated news, it can beskewed to push your libtards agenda. And from the evidence, it most likely is skewed.

Don't believe me, listen to the producer yourself: http://youtu.be/6tLc16_xXlM


That's one quote, carefully picked by someone selling a book.

COPS was one of the biggest media forces supporting the War on Drugs, clearly a libtard agenda.  Also, mostly filmed in Republican/Conservative areas.  Would those Officers have volunteered to be on a libtard show?  It's "filmed by the men and women of law enforcement," isn't it?
 
2013-08-04 12:34:34 PM  
Why would it not surprise me if this turned out to be a media created incident just to make news that they can then twist to meet a agenda.
 
2013-08-04 12:41:53 PM  

fnordfocus: Loose_Cannon:Those are not actors. They are real people. And just like the leftist dominated news, it can beskewed to push your libtards agenda. And from the evidence, it most likely is skewed.

Don't believe me, listen to the producer yourself: http://youtu.be/6tLc16_xXlM

That's one quote, carefully picked by someone selling a book.

COPS was one of the biggest media forces supporting the War on Drugs, clearly a libtard agenda.  Also, mostly filmed in Republican/Conservative areas.  Would those Officers have volunteered to be on a libtard show?  It's "filmed by the men and women of law enforcement," isn't it?


Just so I get this right; you can't believe the producers own words because they might be cherry-picked, and it has police officers involved.

In other words, the producers words were edited for an agenda, but the show couldn't be.

Wow. Just wow.
 
2013-08-04 01:04:04 PM  

fnordfocus: Loose_Cannon:Those are not actors. They are real people. And just like the leftist dominated news, it can beskewed to push your libtards agenda. And from the evidence, it most likely is skewed.

Don't believe me, listen to the producer yourself: http://youtu.be/6tLc16_xXlM

That's one quote, carefully picked by someone selling a book.

COPS was one of the biggest media forces supporting the War on Drugs, clearly a libtard agenda.  Also, mostly filmed in Republican/Conservative areas.  Would those Officers have volunteered to be on a libtard show?  It's "filmed by the men and women of law enforcement," isn't it?


Actually, a majority of the shows are filmed in LA, Las Vegas, Palm Beach Fla, and Albuquerque, hardly conservative strongholds.

http://copsonfox.vacau.com/locations. html

Just another lie that leftists throw out to confuse casual readers.
 
2013-08-04 01:11:55 PM  

asdrabael: Where could they even hock professional news gear? Will a seedy pawn shop even take it because where are they going to unload it? Is there some underworld market for news gear thats only known in the industry?


The answer is "porn film makers." Broadcast-quality video gear is significantly more high-tech and expensive than even the best consumer-grade stuff.

/Seriously, when I did tv news back in the 80s and 90s (pre-internet pay-for-porn days), that was the group most likely to buy your stolen tv gear. And the group most likely to know how to actually operate it.
 
2013-08-04 01:46:55 PM  

WordyGrrl: asdrabael: Where could they even hock professional news gear? Will a seedy pawn shop even take it because where are they going to unload it? Is there some underworld market for news gear thats only known in the industry?

The answer is "porn film makers." Broadcast-quality video gear is significantly more high-tech and expensive than even the best consumer-grade stuff.

/Seriously, when I did tv news back in the 80s and 90s (pre-internet pay-for-porn days), that was the group most likely to buy your stolen tv gear. And the group most likely to know how to actually operate it.


We have a WINNER!
 
2013-08-04 01:59:02 PM  

Loose_Cannon: Just so I get this right; you can't believe the producers own words because they might be cherry-picked, and it has police officers involved.


Conservatives eat their own.  That's one quote, probably John Langley joking about he's pulling one over on the Dumbocrats.  He's a producer hand-picked by Rupert Murdoch, making a show whose original purpose to shore up the war on drugs.

Perhaps Vegas voted for Obama, but every single one of the cities you mention has a Republican Sheriff, except for Palm Beach County where the Sheriff might call himself a Democrat but campaigned for Governor Scott.  Do you really thing these Republicans are conspiring to make a pro-libtard show?
 
2013-08-04 02:06:34 PM  

fnordfocus: Loose_Cannon: Just so I get this right; you can't believe the producers own words because they might be cherry-picked, and it has police officers involved.

Conservatives eat their own.  That's one quote, probably John Langley joking about he's pulling one over on the Dumbocrats.  He's a producer hand-picked by Rupert Murdoch, making a show whose original purpose to shore up the war on drugs.

Perhaps Vegas voted for Obama, but every single one of the cities you mention has a Republican Sheriff, except for Palm Beach County where the Sheriff might call himself a Democrat but campaigned for Governor Scott.  Do you really thing these Republicans are conspiring to make a pro-libtard show?


Well no one said that liberals in power were dumb. You know the saying if you want a job done right..... "every single one of the cities you mention has a Republican Sheriff "
 
2013-08-04 02:23:16 PM  

fnordfocus: Loose_Cannon: Just so I get this right; you can't believe the producers own words because they might be cherry-picked, and it has police officers involved.

Conservatives eat their own.  That's one quote, probably John Langley joking about he's pulling one over on the Dumbocrats.  He's a producer hand-picked by Rupert Murdoch, making a show whose original purpose to shore up the war on drugs.

Perhaps Vegas voted for Obama, but every single one of the cities you mention has a Republican Sheriff, except for Palm Beach County where the Sheriff might call himself a Democrat but campaigned for Governor Scott.  Do you really thing these Republicans are conspiring to make a pro-libtard show?


Didn't any one ever tell you not to go full retard?

First, to correct your earlier mistake, it's "filmed on location *with* the men and women of law enforcement" not *by*. These sheriffs have *Zero* influence on how the show is edited.

And second, the derp is strong in you if you think a Hollywood producer wouldn't slant a TV show to reflect his personal political bias. It happens every. Single. Day.
 
2013-08-04 03:24:40 PM  

ThighsofGlory: 100 Watt Walrus: ThighsofGlory: 100 Watt Walrus: Bob Falfa: Same way people who live in Oakland say "I live in the San Francisco Bay area"

No we don't.

I live in Martinez. Oaklanders and San Franciscans I've mentioned this to say, "where?"

I'm not entirely clear what your point is, but it's not surprising that people from a metro area of 100+ cities and towns don't know the names and locations of all of them, especially a smaller one (35k) on the outskirts of the population center.

It's a county seat, like Oakland or SF, twat.


I had a bad feeling that you would have your feelings hurt by this post. Yes, it's a county seat. What does that have to do with whether or not people will know where it is? Do you know the county seat of San Joaquin, Stanislaus, Yolo or Merced?
 
2013-08-04 03:28:46 PM  

Loose_Cannon: A news crew gets robbed in Oakland. What race are the robbers most likely to be?


OK, now pay close attention to this because it's the whole problem with your point of view:

WHY DOES IT MATTER?
 
2013-08-04 03:31:52 PM  
Also, you pretty much lose your argument right here:

Loose_Cannon: The libtards are strong in this comments section.


Anyone using the term "libtard" is someone without the capability for rational, reasoned argument. Just a sad, angry, impotent little man.
 
2013-08-04 04:16:27 PM  

Runs_With_Scissors_: Vector R:

...Did you even read the article? No "anon" sources here:


Yes, yes I did. I also didn't find one credible link or cite.

John Langley, creator and producer of the TV show COPS bragged to conservative columnist Ben Shapiro that he censors black crime.

Wait. You're citing COPS as a news source?  We should really just stop here.

Tom Kent, deputy managing editor for standards and production at The Associated Press recently admitted that the AP censors black crime.

I need a quote, a link or a written statement saying just that. You can't simply say someone said something - journalists prove it with a quote or a link to a written statement. Then again, he's not a journalist.

Last June Chicago Tribune senior vice president and editor Gerould Kern admitted the newspaper censors black crime in a rather nasty response to his critics. Kern stated, "we guard against subjecting an entire group of people to suspicion because of the color of their skin."

Oh, the horror of treating all the people you write about the same!!! The horror!

Philip Corbett, associate managing editor of the New York Times recently confessed to censoring black crime.

Cite, please. As in a quote, a link or a written statement saying just that. You can't just keep citing an opinion blog that keeps citing itself..

Do run a google on his assertion, "The LA Times issued an official online statement admitting that it was standard practice in the newspaper industry to censor of the race of minority crime perpetrators." The first hit that comes up is his opinion blog. The second hit is Stormfront. The 6th hit is David Duke's site. They all cite his blog. He links and cites no-one.

Here's a link to another, more detailed story on the camera robberies as well: http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Guards-sought-for-news-crews-in-O a kland-4035104.php

But, still no information from the PIO at OPD? No? OK, then.

In short: You've got nothing, son. Go to bed.

/COPS
//as a news source
///really?


You still haven't linked that Oakland PD press release. Does it not exist? You said it did.

Loose_Cannon, my favorite human of the week, did an excellent job of continuing the thread after I went to bed (Thank you, Loose_Cannon!), though there are still links to be posted and words to rebutt.

Finding Tom Kent's words is proving difficult - I'm sure they exist, but I've run into a lot of dead-end pages. Perhaps the AP didn't like it and had it removed from their own site? On the bright side, there's plenty more:

Chicago Tribune: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chapman/chi-race-and-the-f l ash-mob-attacks-20110608,0,1883170.story

Kern's opinion peice on race containing the quote: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-06-10/news/chi-when-race-is-m e ntioned-in-the-chicago-tribune-20110610_1_racial-descriptions-race-cov erage

Bunch o' links in this one, going to the Times and elsewhere (thanks for making me use up my free article limit for the month to that site, too): http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/top-stories/125656/new-york-times- f ollow-up-on-cleveland-texas-rape-story-corrects-repeats-original-mista kes/

NY Times opinion piece on reporting race and other identifying factors: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/13/opinion/12pubed.html?ref=thepublice d itor&_r=0


Also of interest, it's not cool to talk about Quran burnings in the U.S.: http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/105502/the-ap-will-not-d i stribute-images-or-audio-that-specifically-show-qurans-being-burned/

But it's A-OK to show our flags being burned overseas by Muslim radicals: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2009-03-20-iraq-flag-b u rning_N.htm

Man On Pink Corner: bunner: Assuming honest black people are criminals because most violent crimes are committed by black people is like assuming poor white people are oppressive jerks because most rich people are white.

I wouldn't have to "assume" jack shiat if the news organizations would report the facts.


THIS. There is scum of every color. However, we need to turn on the kitchen light to expose the roaches, not demand that it stay turned off so no one can see them and pretend they don't exist.
 
2013-08-04 04:34:24 PM  

Vector R: There is scum of every color. However, we need to turn on the kitchen light to expose the roaches, not demand that it stay turned off so no one can see them and pretend they don't exist.


Without a description of the perps that could help the public identify them, what does the color of their skin matter?

And if you're claiming that identifying descriptions of perps are given less often that identifying descriptions of other perps, show some data to back that up. What percentage of black perps are never described to the public vs. what percentage of white perps? And even if it's true, are there other reasons? Victims afraid of identifying the perps, or people who don't want to snitch, or a propensity for white victims to remember primarily that "it was a black guy" and few other details?

Your own obsession with race is primary factor here. What use is a description if said description isn't enough to be useful? What will you, or anyone, DO with only the information that a criminal is black?
 
2013-08-04 07:21:35 PM  
Today I learned that Republicans believe that only black people are capable of violent crime.
 
2013-08-04 07:29:26 PM  
Conservatives have gone full racist, at least they aren't hiding it anymore, we can more easily identify the morans now.
 
2013-08-04 07:49:34 PM  

TheJoe03: Conservatives have gone full racist, at least they aren't hiding it anymore, we can more easily identify the morans now.


Hiding it is actually a recent phenomenon.  For most of American history, they've been fearless about expressing their racism, but some time after the Civil Rights Act passed, the conservatives realized that they needed to hide their racism behind dog-whistles (e.g. "urban", "poor") in order to appear sensible to non-conservatives.  However, with the rise of the Tea Party, any attempt to conceal one's racist beliefs is seen as idealogical impurity, and is considered an unforgivable sin.
 
2013-08-04 08:10:14 PM  

anfrind: Today I learned that Republicans believe that only black people are capable of violent crime.


Then you learned nothing????
 
2013-08-04 08:13:43 PM  

TheJoe03: Conservatives have gone full racist, at least they aren't hiding it anymore, we can more easily identify the morans now.


I'll just leave this here "moron."
 
2013-08-04 08:29:00 PM  

KimNorth: I'll just leave this here "moron."


lwtc247.files.wordpress.com

/welcome to fark, moran
//the funny thing is that you thought you were being smart
 
2013-08-04 08:29:13 PM  

KimNorth: anfrind: Today I learned that Republicans believe that only black people are capable of violent crime.

Then you learned nothing????


Deny all you want, but the truth is plain for the world to see.
 
2013-08-04 08:31:25 PM  

anfrind: TheJoe03: Conservatives have gone full racist, at least they aren't hiding it anymore, we can more easily identify the morans now.

Hiding it is actually a recent phenomenon.  For most of American history, they've been fearless about expressing their racism, but some time after the Civil Rights Act passed, the conservatives realized that they needed to hide their racism behind dog-whistles (e.g. "urban", "poor") in order to appear sensible to non-conservatives.  However, with the rise of the Tea Party, any attempt to conceal one's racist beliefs is seen as idealogical impurity, and is considered an unforgivable sin.


True, though I prefer they admit their racism. I can't stand when an obvious racist acts like they're not. Who do they think they're fooling?
 
2013-08-04 08:34:05 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: Loose_Cannon: A news crew gets robbed in Oakland. What race are the robbers most likely to be?

OK, now pay close attention to this because it's the whole problem with your point of view:

WHY DOES IT MATTER?


Congratulations, your brilliant reasoning has just put thousands of news crews out of work.  Why does ANYTHING matter, if it didn't happen to you personally?
 
2013-08-04 08:57:52 PM  

TheJoe03: KimNorth: I'll just leave this here "moron."

[lwtc247.files.wordpress.com image 480x468]

/welcome to fark, moran
//the funny thing is that you thought you were being smart


Wow, you're so clever......I guess fark is for everyone.....
 
2013-08-04 09:09:51 PM  

Man On Pink Corner: 100 Watt Walrus: Loose_Cannon: A news crew gets robbed in Oakland. What race are the robbers most likely to be?

OK, now pay close attention to this because it's the whole problem with your point of view:

WHY DOES IT MATTER?

Congratulations, your brilliant reasoning has just put thousands of news crews out of work.  Why does ANYTHING matter, if it didn't happen to you personally?


img341.imageshack.us

 
2013-08-04 09:12:01 PM  

KimNorth: TheJoe03: KimNorth: I'll just leave this here "moron."

[lwtc247.files.wordpress.com image 480x468]

/welcome to fark, moran
//the funny thing is that you thought you were being smart

Wow, you're so clever......I guess fark is for everyone.....


Your account is 2 years old. You should know the "moran" meme by now (it's in constant use to the point that "moron" is almost the wrong spelling on Fark), and if you don't, it's a sign you should lurk more before wading in.
 
2013-08-04 09:45:37 PM  

KimNorth: Wow, you're so clever......I guess fark is for everyone.....


It's one of the oldest and well known memes on this site, stop being such a moran.
 
2013-08-04 09:53:21 PM  
I think it's sweet you, anfrind and 100 Watt Walrus have a bromance going. You made friends pumpkin :)
 
2013-08-04 10:25:23 PM  

KimNorth: I think it's sweet you, anfrind and 100 Watt Walrus have a bromance going. You made friends pumpkin :)


Go back to Stormfront.
 
2013-08-05 12:30:51 AM  

100 Watt Walrus: OgreMagi: Not all of oakland sucks.  There are actually some high end neighborhoods in that city.  However, if you don't know the city you can easily end up "on the wrong side of town", which is the majority of that shiat-hole city.

csb: before moving to the Bay Area, my buddy and I came up from L.A. for a few days to find a house or apartment.  Because we didn't know which areas where bad, we had to drive around to learn for ourselves.  So with our apartment list in hand (from a service, before it was all on the internet) we drive to what sounded like a great place in Oakland.  As we're driving slowly up the street looking for the address, some homeboy walk in front of our moving vehicle giving us the stinkeye and an attitude of "what you gonna do?"  We decided if he pulled a gun we'd run his sorry ass over.  We stopped looking for the apartment on that street.  That was all we needed to know we weren't going to live there.  We drive past hommie, who was still giving us the stinkeye, and out of Oakland.  We never considered any address in Oakland after that.

A note to terrorists who obtain a nuke.  Consider Oakland.

When I moved to the Bay Area, my buddy and I were looking for a place and we didn't know the area well either. We looked for apartments in neighborhoods that had a high percentage of Volvos (it was 1990, if I were doing it today, I'd look for maybe Priuses). We ended up in Oakland, and I've lived in the same neighborhood ever since. In fact, when I moved 3 years ago, I refused to look anywhere else but this neighbhorhood. Walking distance to BART, Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, a movie theater, a public rose garden, the lake (with botanical garden, bird preserve, and Childrens' Fairlyland), a weekly farmers' market, and dozens of restaurants. Within a couple miles are dozens more restaurants and shops, etc., etc.

The bad parts of Oakland are pretty bad, and there are a lot of bad parts of town, but there are at least as many neighborhoods like mine.

As ...


Recalibrating nuke strike to Memphis, TN.
 
2013-08-05 12:31:58 AM  

anfrind: TheJoe03: Conservatives have gone full racist, at least they aren't hiding it anymore, we can more easily identify the morans now.

Hiding it is actually a recent phenomenon.  For most of American history, they've been fearless about expressing their racism, but some time after the Civil Rights Act passed, the conservatives realized that they needed to hide their racism behind dog-whistles (e.g. "urban", "poor") in order to appear sensible to non-conservatives.  However, with the rise of the Tea Party, any attempt to conceal one's racist beliefs is seen as idealogical impurity, and is considered an unforgivable sin.


This.
 
2013-08-05 06:46:19 AM  
100 Watt Walrus: "Nice dodge?"  Coming from Neo, I'll take that as a professional compliment.
 
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