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2013-08-03 08:34:25 PM  
www.film-tech.com

Thank you for coming to Lowe's. Sit back and relax. Enjoy the show!
 
2013-08-03 08:38:13 PM  
NEWS FLASH: standing too close to exploding things is dangerous
details at 11
 
2013-08-03 08:47:22 PM  
Michael Bay seen quietly running away
 
2013-08-03 09:10:21 PM  
I submitted this with a Simpsons reference

/Implosion?!
 
2013-08-03 09:11:29 PM  
"Here come the pieces."
 
2013-08-03 09:12:25 PM  

namatad: NEWS FLASH: standing too close to exploding things is dangerous
details at 11


It said they were standing in the so called designated safe area. Someone is going to own part of that demolition company now.
 
2013-08-03 09:19:38 PM  
How bad is it in Bakersfield that watching old shiat fall down is a spectator sport?

/nevermind
 
2013-08-03 09:19:59 PM  

astouffer: namatad: NEWS FLASH: standing too close to exploding things is dangerous
details at 11

It said they were standing in the so called designated safe area. Someone is going to own part of that demolition company now.



Yucky legal system is my official stance, if that happens.
 
2013-08-03 09:22:53 PM  
I usually manage to avoid shrapnel by, you know, not spectating massive explosions.
 
2013-08-03 09:23:23 PM  
Can someone find the designated perimeter? Were spectators inside or outside the perimeter?

http://www.bakersfieldcalifornian.com/local/breaking-news/x119921823 1/ Shrapnel-injures-several-after-PG-E-implosion
 
2013-08-03 09:23:52 PM  

astouffer: namatad: NEWS FLASH: standing too close to exploding things is dangerous
details at 11

It said they were standing in the so called designated safe area. Someone is going to own part of that demolition company now.


Highly likely.  From the aerial images of the area, the demolition site looks to be roughly 300 yards from the Lowe's parking lot, while the other viewpoint is just over a quarter mile.   While I'm sure they had reason to believe it was far enough, less than a quarter mile for something rusty and metallic being blown up seems like not such a good idea.  Either that, or there's also the fact that it looks like there was literally nothing left to contain the blast.

\granted, that's only me and my "watched too many demolition shows" mind saying this, so who knows what's right
 
2013-08-03 09:24:52 PM  
It's obvious by watching the video that these buildings had a huge amount of steel structure.  One wonders why they were even trying to drop them this way.
 
2013-08-03 09:26:59 PM  
Warnings were posted.  Warnings were ignored.

images.wikia.com
 
2013-08-03 09:27:15 PM  
The safe zone around a blast is impossible to guarantee. I've seen a bad rock shoot (for grading) launch a 2' boulder right through the mat of old tires they use to dampen and contain the blast - it tunneled down through a townhome from stem to stern lol.
 
2013-08-03 09:29:32 PM  
www.wired.com
 
2013-08-03 09:35:50 PM  
spectators gonna spectate
 
2013-08-03 09:39:19 PM  

Apik0r0s: The safe zone around a blast is impossible to guarantee. I've seen a bad rock shoot (for grading) launch a 2' boulder right through the mat of old tires they use to dampen and contain the blast - it tunneled down through a townhome from stem to stern lol.


It happened to my dentist. They were blowing up bedrock at a construction site half a mile from his house, and a rock the size of a soccer ball totalled his barbecue. He had been sitting on his patio, right next to his BBQ, a few minutes before and had gone inside when he heard the siren go off to shut the windows to prevent dust from getting in the house.
 
2013-08-03 09:40:47 PM  

stirfrybry: spectators gonna spectate


That's just speculating.
 
2013-08-03 09:41:50 PM  

astouffer: namatad: NEWS FLASH: standing too close to exploding things is dangerous
details at 11

It said they were standing in the so called designated safe area. Someone is going to own part of that demolition company now.


Nah, they will go after lowes, deeper pockets.
 
2013-08-03 09:50:42 PM  
Not so cool story, bro - About 7 years ago, w\Was covering the demolition of some blighted 2-story property in Austin. They roped the media types like us in a bit to close. Just after the backhoe (or fronthoe, whatever it was, it was a big yellow thing knocking the shiat out of the building) started tearing it apart, a roundish piece of concrete came rolling my way at about 50 miles per hour.  I was a younger and skinnier man then, and did a 2-legged hop/hurdle to avoid it.  It would have plowed through flesh like a hot knife through melted 90s lyrics.

I got the fark out of there.
 
2013-08-03 09:51:09 PM  
I live in Bakersfield.  I had been meaning to watch this all week.  Damn it, those should be my legs.
 
2013-08-03 09:51:58 PM  
where was the blast fence? didn't see one in the video, also didn't see any tamping, and the charges were set to the inside of the supports so all debris would be blown out, should have used sandbags to direct the blasts and the charges should have been set to the outside of the supports to blow debris into the structure.
 
2013-08-03 09:56:31 PM  

WhyteRaven74: Michael Bay seen quietly running away


This is impossible.  Michael Bay is incapable of doing anything quietly.
 
2013-08-03 09:57:22 PM  
Let's tesselate spectate.
 
2013-08-03 09:57:54 PM  

Prey4reign: WhyteRaven74: Michael Bay seen quietly running away

This is impossible.  Michael Bay is incapable of doing anything quietly.


Unless he was running in slow motion while leaping over a screaming woman.
 
2013-08-03 10:01:41 PM  

that was my nickname in highschool: Warnings were posted.  Warnings were ignored.

[images.wikia.com image 325x451]


That was a couple alts ago for me; help me remember, why am I thinking that's Wil Wheaton's middle finger?
 
2013-08-03 10:02:33 PM  
Demolition goes wrong in California. Now go home.
 
2013-08-03 10:06:55 PM  

Bslim: I usually manage to avoid shrapnel by, you know, not spectating massive explosions.


The upside to getting old is that you stop doing stupid shiat like that.
 
2013-08-03 10:09:21 PM  

Morgellons: That was a couple alts ago for me; help me remember, why am I thinking that's Wil Wheaton's middle finger?


farm2.staticflickr.com
 
2013-08-03 10:11:30 PM  

wallywam1: Bslim: I usually manage to avoid shrapnel by, you know, not spectating massive explosions.

The upside to getting old is that you stop doing stupid shiat like that.


Actually stayed up all night to see an early morning building demo once. Pretty cool. It probably helped that I was on acid, too.
 
2013-08-03 10:13:23 PM  
hollywoodnose.com

"No comment"
 
2013-08-03 10:13:35 PM  
Why didn't they just burn some jet fuel inside it for a couple of hours? Sumbiatch would have come down straight as an arrow.
 
2013-08-03 10:20:14 PM  

LordOfThePings: [farm2.staticflickr.com image 640x480]



I'm glad somebody knew because I did not.
 
2013-08-03 10:22:54 PM  
Hurt? The guy's farking leg was severed and he may lose the other as well...
 
2013-08-03 10:24:11 PM  

Pribar: where was the blast fence? didn't see one in the video, also didn't see any tamping, and the charges were set to the inside of the supports so all debris would be blown out, should have used sandbags to direct the blasts and the charges should have been set to the outside of the supports to blow debris into the structure.


^^^That^^^
 
2013-08-03 10:25:34 PM  

FriarReb98: astouffer: namatad: NEWS FLASH: standing too close to exploding things is dangerous
details at 11

It said they were standing in the so called designated safe area. Someone is going to own part of that demolition company now.

Highly likely.  From the aerial images of the area, the demolition site looks to be roughly 300 yards from the Lowe's parking lot, while the other viewpoint is just over a quarter mile.   While I'm sure they had reason to believe it was far enough, less than a quarter mile for something rusty and metallic being blown up seems like not such a good idea.  Either that, or there's also the fact that it looks like there was literally nothing left to contain the blast.

\granted, that's only me and my "watched too many demolition shows" mind saying this, so who knows what's right


See http://goo.gl/maps/s9L2o.  The parking lot is a considerable distance from the power plant building.  The chunk of metal had to travel northeast across six lanes of traffic, over a canal, to even get to the lot.  Does anyone know where in the lot the spectator was standing?
 
2013-08-03 10:46:10 PM  
I guess they never heard of a wrecking ball...
 
2013-08-03 10:51:53 PM  

LaughingRadish: FriarReb98: astouffer: namatad: NEWS FLASH: standing too close to exploding things is dangerous
details at 11

It said they were standing in the so called designated safe area. Someone is going to own part of that demolition company now.

Highly likely.  From the aerial images of the area, the demolition site looks to be roughly 300 yards from the Lowe's parking lot, while the other viewpoint is just over a quarter mile.   While I'm sure they had reason to believe it was far enough, less than a quarter mile for something rusty and metallic being blown up seems like not such a good idea.  Either that, or there's also the fact that it looks like there was literally nothing left to contain the blast.

\granted, that's only me and my "watched too many demolition shows" mind saying this, so who knows what's right

See http://goo.gl/maps/s9L2o.  The parking lot is a considerable distance from the power plant building.  The chunk of metal had to travel northeast across six lanes of traffic, over a canal, to even get to the lot.  Does anyone know where in the lot the spectator was standing?



In the wrong place.
 
2013-08-03 10:54:19 PM  

AteMyBrain: Why didn't they just burn some jet fuel inside it for a couple of hours? Sumbiatch would have come down straight as an arrow.


"Jet fuel" contains that crap they spray out in chem trails, if they used it uncontained at this populated event it most likely would have killed more people, with cancer on the rise for the rest of the spectators. Come on man, is this amateur hour?
 
2013-08-03 10:54:32 PM  
Idiots.
 
2013-08-03 11:03:20 PM  

astouffer: namatad: NEWS FLASH: standing too close to exploding things is dangerous
details at 11

It said they were standing in the so called designated safe area. Someone is going to own part of that demolition company now.


Who would want it?
 
2013-08-03 11:10:43 PM  
Just watched the video....looks like the guy who got badly hurt was not actually in the Lowes parking lot, but rather a little closer to the blast, on a service road just parallel to that river/waterway there, up against the chain link fence. HE WAS TOO CLOSE!!!

Take a look at it on Google earth or your IPad. You want to be RIGHT up front, well, thems the consequences.
 
2013-08-03 11:12:02 PM  
Sounds like they had a blast!
 
2013-08-03 11:13:52 PM  
 
2013-08-03 11:16:24 PM  

AteMyBrain: Why didn't they just burn some jet fuel inside it for a couple of hours? Sumbiatch would have come down straight as an arrow.


They still would have needed thermite.
 
2013-08-03 11:23:24 PM  
haha?

fans of destruction and devastation surprisingly unhappy.
po thangs.
 
2013-08-03 11:24:45 PM  

LaughingRadish: Here's another video: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151793167304935


Whoa. Was the thing that hit the fence one of the objects that injured people (i.e. was this taken where the injuries were)? You can hear an "Oh my God!" at the end of the video, but that may just be out of shock that something rocketed into the fence.
 
2013-08-03 11:34:07 PM  

FriarReb98: Highly likely. From the aerial images of the area, the demolition site looks to be roughly 300 yards from the Lowe's parking lot, while the other viewpoint is just over a quarter mile. While I'm sure they had reason to believe it was far enough, less than a quarter mile for something rusty and metallic being blown up seems like not such a good idea. Either that, or there's also the fact that it looks like there was literally nothing left to contain the blast.


Look at what they're blowing down--it appears to be metal.  Metal will basically laugh at dynamite.  Thus they were probably using linear shaped charges to cut the metal beams.  There is a strip of metal on the back of those that comes flying off at *VERY* high speed.  It's nailed distant spectators before.
 
2013-08-03 11:37:53 PM  
Guys, come on. This is nothing to lose a leg over. Don't let this stump you.
 
2013-08-03 11:43:37 PM  
I'll take a guess and say that the official who signed off on the permit is close to retirement age.
 
2013-08-03 11:44:57 PM  
Here's a new video that was uploaded by a spectator

http://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

WARNING: not for the faint of heart.
 
2013-08-03 11:57:24 PM  
I saw a video of a similar mishap in Australia where they didn't understand that you put the explosives on the outside of the structure and shoot the debris inside while the gases go all over harmlessly. They put the explosives inside and shot conrete chunks everywhere including a park pond that people were canoeing and the wave knocked over a canoe. A person or two were killed as well by flying chunks.
 
2013-08-04 12:04:10 AM  

ultraholland: Here's a new video that was uploaded by a spectator

http://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

WARNING: not for the faint of heart.


hmmm, I don't trust your warning and it being on youtube. We all know youtube pulls "not for the faint of heart" videos.
 
2013-08-04 12:19:34 AM  

pedobearapproved: ultraholland: Here's a new video that was uploaded by a spectator

http://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

WARNING: not for the faint of heart.

hmmm, I don't trust your warning and it being on youtube. We all know youtube pulls "not for the faint of heart" videos.


I guess you're gonna give him up and let him down, then.
 
2013-08-04 12:26:25 AM  

ultraholland: Here's a new video that was uploaded by a spectator

http://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

WARNING: not for the faint of heart.


The 30-second advertisement at the beginning sorta takes all the steam out of the rickroll.
 
2013-08-04 12:41:07 AM  

vicejay: They roped the media types like us in a bit to close.


You being a media type and all, is it safe to assume this is just a typo, and you really do know the difference between two, too, and to?
 
2013-08-04 12:42:50 AM  
Rootus:

The 30-second advertisement at the beginning sorta takes all the steam out of the rickroll.

There are ads on Youtube? You must have malware or something wrong with your browser ( like a missing plugin...)
 
2013-08-04 12:45:20 AM  

vodka: It's obvious by watching the video that these buildings had a huge amount of steel structure.  One wonders why they were even trying to drop them this way.


No, no one wonders.
 
2013-08-04 12:46:18 AM  

chrylis: AteMyBrain: Why didn't they just burn some jet fuel inside it for a couple of hours? Sumbiatch would have come down straight as an arrow.

They still would have needed thermite.


No, because everybody knows jet fuel burns hot enough to melt steel. Duh.
 
2013-08-04 12:50:21 AM  
lh3.ggpht.com
/tis nothing but a fleshwound.
 
2013-08-04 01:03:59 AM  

bojon: stirfrybry: spectators gonna spectate

That's just speculating.


Spectacular!
 
2013-08-04 01:12:30 AM  

hammettman: How bad is it in Bakersfield that watching old shiat fall down is a spectator sport?

/nevermind


Oh come on, watching stuff blow up is always fun.

There were police in the parking lot where the injuries happened - I myself would have totally assumed that that would have meant it was a safe spot, since cops are so personal-injury-averse.
 
2013-08-04 01:21:54 AM  

evilbryan: Rootus:

The 30-second advertisement at the beginning sorta takes all the steam out of the rickroll.

There are ads on Youtube? You must have malware or something wrong with your browser ( like a missing plugin...)


Yeah, my bad. The only thing I saw when I opened the video was Rick's jovial visage. Sorry for the disappointment.
 
2013-08-04 01:22:01 AM  
If you watch the video the stupid buildings which are like steel boxes just fall over on their sides. its not like its going to be any easier to scrap them now than before the explosion.
 
2013-08-04 01:29:43 AM  
Damn thing woke me up this morning. Woke up to b-b-b-b-boom-BOOOOOM!!!! I thought WW3 started, but then remembered they planned to blow up that plant at 6am.
 
2013-08-04 01:41:30 AM  
Bakersfield making Fresno look good since forever
 
2013-08-04 01:47:35 AM  

ultraholland: Here's a new video that was uploaded by a spectator

http://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

WARNING: not for the faint of heart.


Are you farking kidding me
 
2013-08-04 01:53:12 AM  

ultraholland: Here's a new video that was uploaded by a spectator

http://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

WARNING: not for the faint of heart.


Woah, is it 2009 again?
 
2013-08-04 02:10:29 AM  
LaughingRadish:

See http://goo.gl/maps/s9L2o.  The parking lot is a considerable distance from the power plant building.  The chunk of metal had to travel northeast across six lanes of traffic, over a canal, to even get to the lot.  Does anyone know where in the lot the spectator was standing?

About 1500 feet to the parking lot, but I noticed there's a parking lot under 500 feet away right across the street.  I'm guessing some rednecks though that was a great place to take it in.
 
2013-08-04 02:14:24 AM  
A California man looses 1 and a half of his legs.

This sounds like the opening to the "Six Million Dollar Man".
 
2013-08-04 02:59:24 AM  

Mitch Mitchell: A California man looses 1 and a half of his legs.

This sounds like the opening to the "Six Million Dollar Man".


We can rebuild him!

Or, well, maybe not.
 
2013-08-04 03:25:50 AM  

Mitch Mitchell: A California man looses 1 and a half of his legs.

This sounds like the opening to the "Six Million Dollar Man".


Meanwhile, a whole internet loses the ability to spell.

/pet peeve
 
2013-08-04 04:38:44 AM  
I'm Slate Sanchez, and I'm about to be... the news.
i42.tinypic.com
 
2013-08-04 05:02:11 AM  
I was working overnight at a TV station in town.  Usually the only one in the building all night, so was wondering why people started showing up early this morning.

Sadly there seemed to be a lot of interest in seeing this thing blow up all week, lots of people talking about it, so was good they had it so early to avoid larger crowds.
 
2013-08-04 06:01:14 AM  

AteMyBrain: Why didn't they just burn some jet fuel inside it for a couple of hours? Sumbiatch would have come down straight as an arrow.


Oh geez, don't even start. Half the comments on TFA are about WTC building 7. The stupid burns, I don't know what anyone hopes to accomplish at this point by hounding every page about it.
 
2013-08-04 06:50:05 AM  

astouffer: namatad: NEWS FLASH: standing too close to exploding things is dangerous
details at 11

It said they were standing in the so called designated safe area. Someone is going to own part of that demolition company now.


Yeah, no part of that company is safe now.
 
2013-08-04 09:01:01 AM  
Is it just me, or do those blasts look pretty uncontained (what with the sparks, and fire, and chunks of crap flying out). Does anyone know what (if any) the best practices are on how you're supposed shield/sandbag/whatever motherf*cking explosions at ground level. I realize that shaped charges involve jets of superheated copper traveling at many times the speed of sound and the whole point of them is that they're very hard to stop, but there must be some safety regs too.

Considering the number of people in the "safe" zone that got hit with sh*t, seems like someone somewhere wasn't doing their job, and that "it's an explosion LO!L what do you expect?" is a pretty lousy response to this.
 
2013-08-04 09:17:19 AM  
I'm guessing from the distinct lack of big advertising banners on the buildings being demo'd that this work was being done by the city or the building owners themselves. That would certainly explain why it appears that most of the normal prep work (debris containment measures, etc.) was not done.
 
2013-08-04 09:36:21 AM  
Why do reporters insist on calling demolitions "implosions"? Unless the demo company has discovered a way to generate a small, short lived black hole at the center of the demo site, they are still using EXPLOSIVES. Which, as per their name, EXPLODE.
 
2013-08-04 10:10:18 AM  

poorjon: Is it just me, or do those blasts look pretty uncontained (what with the sparks, and fire, and chunks of crap flying out). Does anyone know what (if any) the best practices are on how you're supposed shield/sandbag/whatever motherf*cking explosions at ground level. I realize that shaped charges involve jets of superheated copper traveling at many times the speed of sound and the whole point of them is that they're very hard to stop, but there must be some safety regs too.


The jet of superheated copper isn't a threat.  It's plasma, it will quickly dissipate.  It's the other side of the charge that's the real threat--it's blown off at very high speed but it's still solid.

Kyosuke: I'm guessing from the distinct lack of big advertising banners on the buildings being demo'd that this work was being done by the city or the building owners themselves. That would certainly explain why it appears that most of the normal prep work (debris containment measures, etc.) was not done.


Agreed.  Amateurs.  Blowing down a building isn't that hard, the reason you need the pros is to ensure it falls where you want it to and doesn't throw crap everywhere in the process.

LoneVVolf: Why do reporters insist on calling demolitions "implosions"? Unless the demo company has discovered a way to generate a small, short lived black hole at the center of the demo site, they are still using EXPLOSIVES. Which, as per their name, EXPLODE.


In most cases the objective is to make the building fall in on itself--an implosion.  They usually blow out enough supports that gravity brings it down.  Watch what happens when the pros do it--in most cases it's almost like there was a black hole in the center sucking it in.
 
2013-08-04 10:14:50 AM  
LoneVVolf: Why do reporters insist on calling demolitions "implosions"?

If reporters were intelligent enough to understand basic science (or the definition of words) they wouldn't have become journalists.
 
2013-08-04 10:37:48 AM  

hammettman: How bad is it in Bakersfield that watching old shiat fall down is a spectator sport?

/nevermind


Yeah, who would ever make a spectator event out of something like that?

worldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com

Dumbass
 
2013-08-04 12:03:41 PM  

TwowheelinTim: vicejay: They roped the media types like us in a bit to close.

You being a media type and all, is it safe to assume this is just a typo, and you really do know the difference between two, too, and to?


Yes, it's a typo
 
2013-08-04 12:50:14 PM  

LoneVVolf: Why do reporters insist on calling demolitions "implosions"?


Because when the job is done correctly the building falls in upon itself, rather than scattering debris outward.
 
2013-08-04 01:38:03 PM  

Kyosuke: I'm guessing from the distinct lack of big advertising banners on the buildings being demo'd that this work was being done by the city or the building owners themselves. That would certainly explain why it appears that most of the normal prep work (debris containment measures, etc.) was not done.


nope, it was contracted out to the acknowledged experts in the field... unControlled Demolition, Inc
 
2013-08-04 01:50:18 PM  
Controlled Demolition has a 10 minute video of how this shiat is supposed to be done on youtube http://youtu.be/-TARNVwF7Yg which is worth watching.

It's especially obvious in the bridge demolition videos that there's still plenty of shrapnel being tossed about by the demolition, even when the demolitionists (?) are competent.
 
2013-08-04 03:27:00 PM  

WxGuy1: LaughingRadish: Here's another video: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151793167304935

Whoa. Was the thing that hit the fence one of the objects that injured people (i.e. was this taken where the injuries were)? You can hear an "Oh my God!" at the end of the video, but that may just be out of shock that something rocketed into the fence.


The video was taken by a friend of a friend.  I presume there were multiple flying objects because more than a couple people got hurt.
 
2013-08-05 02:06:14 AM  

nobiology2424: I was working overnight at a TV station in town.  Usually the only one in the building all night, so was wondering why people started showing up early this morning.

Sadly there seemed to be a lot of interest in seeing this thing blow up all week, lots of people talking about it, so was good they had it so early to avoid larger crowds.


Yeah but *I* didn't know about it! That shiat was incredibly loud and it scared the crap out of a lot of people...
 
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