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2013-08-03 02:15:35 PM
Oh, noes, we can start producing our own cheap crap? Whatever will China do now???
 
2013-08-03 07:50:57 PM

gopher321: Oh, noes, we can start producing our own cheap crap? Whatever will China do now???


It's the first step toward home replication Star Trek style  I'm encouraged by this, actually.  I plan to put at least one RepRap in the Library's MakerSpace.
 
2013-08-03 08:09:34 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: RepRap


Do you know what is the cost of materials for one to replicate itself vs buying a new one?
 
2013-08-03 08:15:19 PM

shanrick: Benevolent Misanthrope: RepRap

Do you know what is the cost of materials for one to replicate itself vs buying a new one?


No clue.  Care to enlighten me?  I was thinking you had to buy a 3D printer and then use it to print a RepRap - but then the RepRap is self-perpetuating, so you don't have to buy parts.  Or am I totally ignorant?
 
2013-08-03 08:20:27 PM
So, until that happens it kinda has and kinda hasn't, depending on how you look at it.

Would that be a quantum situation I detect?
 
2013-08-03 08:44:51 PM

shanrick: Do you know what is the cost of materials for one to replicate itself vs buying a new one?



How long before mini-benders are re-arranging water molecules and carbon dioxide into alcohol?
 
2013-08-03 08:57:16 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: shanrick: Benevolent Misanthrope: RepRap

Do you know what is the cost of materials for one to replicate itself vs buying a new one?

No clue.  Care to enlighten me?  I was thinking you had to buy a 3D printer and then use it to print a RepRap - but then the RepRap is self-perpetuating, so you don't have to buy parts.  Or am I totally ignorant?


What happens if you leave it alone in a dark room?  If they became sentient, we'd be doomed.   Obama is behind this.
 
2013-08-03 09:03:18 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: shanrick: Benevolent Misanthrope: RepRap

Do you know what is the cost of materials for one to replicate itself vs buying a new one?

No clue.  Care to enlighten me?  I was thinking you had to buy a 3D printer and then use it to print a RepRap - but then the RepRap is self-perpetuating, so you don't have to buy parts.  Or am I totally ignorant?


LOL
Well, you have to buy feed stock.
And control circuits and wires.
And electricity.
 
2013-08-03 09:04:47 PM
Huh.   kwame must have a date tonight....
 
2013-08-03 09:06:09 PM
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2013-08-03 09:06:16 PM
So if I wanted a price a bunch of worthless crap online I would find that I could get more worthless crap for my money by making my own worthless crap?

I wonder how that compares to doing without worthless crap?
 
2013-08-03 09:09:39 PM

Shadow Blasko: So, until that happens it kinda has and kinda hasn't, depending on how you look at it.

Would that be a quantum situation I detect?


FriarReb98: Huh.   kwame must have a date tonight....


I am going to 3-D print some popcorn and watch this Kwantum Kwatastrophe thread play out.
 
2013-08-03 09:09:55 PM

FriarReb98: Huh.   kwame must have a date tonight....


Sounds like kwame may have dates every night for a while so long as his printer holds out.
 
2013-08-03 09:12:18 PM
In the year two-thousaaaaaand....
In the year two-thousAAAAAAND...
Thanks to 3-D printing, married couples will be inundated with non-returnable homemade kitchen utensils.
 
2013-08-03 09:12:19 PM
sounds too good to be true. i suspect learning to measure the angles & curves of a part and to then program the input parameters requires a 4" thick operation manual and the collective educations of the geek group from Big Bang Theory. if it was easy-peasy you would already know 1 or 2 people that own and use them.
 
2013-08-03 09:12:48 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: shanrick: Benevolent Misanthrope: RepRap

Do you know what is the cost of materials for one to replicate itself vs buying a new one?

No clue.  Care to enlighten me?  I was thinking you had to buy a 3D printer and then use it to print a RepRap - but then the RepRap is self-perpetuating, so you don't have to buy parts.  Or am I totally ignorant?


Uh, it's still $50+ for a 2lbs of material to make one small part.  Someone's providing source material or you ain't got shiat.
 
2013-08-03 09:13:19 PM

namatad: Benevolent Misanthrope: shanrick: Benevolent Misanthrope: RepRap

Do you know what is the cost of materials for one to replicate itself vs buying a new one?

No clue.  Care to enlighten me?  I was thinking you had to buy a 3D printer and then use it to print a RepRap - but then the RepRap is self-perpetuating, so you don't have to buy parts.  Or am I totally ignorant?

LOL
Well, you have to buy feed stock.
And control circuits and wires.
And electricity.


Well, duh.
 
2013-08-03 09:14:26 PM

namatad: Benevolent Misanthrope: shanrick: Benevolent Misanthrope: RepRap

Do you know what is the cost of materials for one to replicate itself vs buying a new one?

No clue.  Care to enlighten me?  I was thinking you had to buy a 3D printer and then use it to print a RepRap - but then the RepRap is self-perpetuating, so you don't have to buy parts.  Or am I totally ignorant?

LOL
Well, you have to buy feed stock.
And control circuits and wires.
And electricity.


Electricity is free, just need some solar panels on the roof (and maybe a wind turbine in the backyard for cloudy days)
 
2013-08-03 09:14:58 PM

baorao: Thanks to 3-D printing, married couples will be inundated with non-returnable homemade kitchen utensils.


This is great news if you're emotionally stunted adults that REALLY won't shut up about the Nightmare Before Christmas or Invader Zim.
 
2013-08-03 09:17:13 PM

KrispyKritter: sounds too good to be true. i suspect learning to measure the angles & curves of a part and to then program the input parameters requires a 4" thick operation manual and the collective educations of the geek group from Big Bang Theory. if it was easy-peasy you would already know 1 or 2 people that own and use them.


They've gotten better about interpreting 3D models, but realistically you not only need to be able to model your part but also how it's going to be printed, since most 3D printers are active on one plane at a time.  Only the really expensive ones will do two.  So for most of your "printing" the part will be built layer by layer.  That's easy if you're making a gear, but more difficult if you're making a gear with a chopstick sticking out of one of the teeth.
 
2013-08-03 09:18:25 PM

FriarReb98: Huh.   kwame must have a date tonight....


I was about to say, 'Ask kwame, he'll know'>
 
2013-08-03 09:21:10 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: It's the first step toward home replication Star Trek style


i.istockimg.com
 
2013-08-03 09:24:01 PM
Pay for itself if you were importing huge batches of hard to manufacture plastic widgets from Denmark before you got a 3-D printer that is.
 
2013-08-03 09:25:37 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Benevolent Misanthrope: It's the first step toward home replication Star Trek style

[i.istockimg.com image 254x380]


Smart-ass.  I didn't say it was a big step, I said it was the first step.  Kind of like the invention of ENIAC was the first step to the LHC.
 
2013-08-03 09:26:34 PM

gopher321: Oh, noes, we can start producing our own cheap crap? Whatever will China do now???


That gives me an idea! I'm going to outsource myself, and send my cheap labor abroad while I stay home and reap the profits. I'll be filthy rich in no time! Suck it hosers, I'm on the train to moneytown now.
 
2013-08-03 09:26:54 PM
Some say folks have printed their own pistols and (almost) rifles already.  Specs are sketchy but I'd imagine after a few trials it could be fruitful.
 
2013-08-03 09:27:21 PM

berylman: Pay for itself if you were importing huge batches of hard to manufacture plastic widgets from Denmark before you got a 3-D printer that is.


Shush you Luddite. Science is whatever we want it to be. Anything is possible. All those different materials Luddites use these days and their quaint notions of "tolerances" and "usability" will be steamrolled into oblivion by a large, lumbering 3D juggernaut.

It's the fewcher, doncha know.
 
2013-08-03 09:28:44 PM
KrispyKritter:

sounds too good to be true. i suspect learning to measure the angles & curves of a part and to then program the input parameters requires a 4" thick operation manual and the collective educations of the geek group from Big Bang Theory. if it was easy-peasy you would already know 1 or 2 people that own and use them.

People used to say the same thing about Linux; That you had to know how to compile your own kernel etcetera... Which was in fact true for the early adopters. Now it's at the point where when my aged mother's Windows desktop broke down I was able to build her a Lubuntu box in one evening and she was able to do everything she had been doing on Windows as soon as I got it to her.

But yeah, you hear a lot more about progress with the printers than you do with the (IMHO) more important scanners.


/knows 4-5 people that own and use 3D printers.
 
2013-08-03 09:31:47 PM
Chigger, pease!

First off, you need to either have the "plans" for the objects you want to print or you need to create them.  Second, the quality of the output of today's 3D printers is pretty poor.  If a sweatshop kid in china produced such rough products, he'd whip himself.  The stuff that is presented as examples of 3D printing has a  lot of post-printing cleanup done.  Watch some youtube videos of 3D printing jobs to see where things really stand.

Right now, 3D printing is like television before there was content being broadcast.  It demonstrates the potential but there are few practical applications.  Sure, I can print a rough bowl but I can also run down to the store and buy a 4-pack of smooth bowls for less money in less time.  There have been a few times when it would have been nice to be able to print some plastic replacement parts but there were no existing designs and I had no practical way to create them.  3D scanners are expensive and I have no training or experience with 3D CAD.  Or 2D CAD, for that matter.

We're a long way from the time when generating a read-to-use product will be as simple as picking an item from a menu and clicking "print".
 
2013-08-03 09:34:00 PM
Yeah! And who needs a phone you can carry around! 640k should be enough RAM for anyone. Why would anyone want to watch moving pictures at home? And why should anyone buy a motor vehicle, when a horse doesn't require maintenance! And fire? It seems more dangerous than it's worth. Technologies don't ever advance, or work out in unexpected, world-changing ways that were unpredictable before their invention.
 
2013-08-03 09:35:00 PM

jtown: Chigger, pease!

First off, you need to either have the "plans" for the objects you want to print or you need to create them.  Second, the quality of the output of today's 3D printers is pretty poor.  If a sweatshop kid in china produced such rough products, he'd whip himself.  The stuff that is presented as examples of 3D printing has a  lot of post-printing cleanup done.  Watch some youtube videos of 3D printing jobs to see where things really stand.

Right now, 3D printing is like television before there was content being broadcast.  It demonstrates the potential but there are few practical applications.  Sure, I can print a rough bowl but I can also run down to the store and buy a 4-pack of smooth bowls for less money in less time.  There have been a few times when it would have been nice to be able to print some plastic replacement parts but there were no existing designs and I had no practical way to create them.  3D scanners are expensive and I have no training or experience with 3D CAD.  Or 2D CAD, for that matter.

We're a long way from the time when generating a read-to-use product will be as simple as picking an item from a menu and clicking "print".



That's funny, that's not the experience I've had with 3-D printers in the last year.  Maybe I need to stop dicking around with the printers themselves and actually go to the source - you know, YouTube.
 
2013-08-03 09:39:07 PM
They mentioned only shower heads and spoon holders in TFA. Since I've only purchased one of each in the past 10 YEARS how the fark am I suppose to recover my costs for a 3D printing system in a single year? They also failed to mention that most home versions of 3D printers get 70% to 90% complete on a project and then fark it up so badly that you have to start over.

Easier, quicker, and cheaper to just go to the store.

/we also don't grow our own veggies and raise our own cattle
//mostly
 
2013-08-03 09:41:07 PM
The day I can make a life size Scarlet Johansson is the day I quit my job and get a divorce.
 
2013-08-03 09:41:38 PM

jtown: Chigger, pease!

First off, you need to either have the "plans" for the objects you want to print or you need to create them.  Second, the quality of the output of today's 3D printers is pretty poor.  If a sweatshop kid in china produced such rough products, he'd whip himself.  The stuff that is presented as examples of 3D printing has a  lot of post-printing cleanup done.  Watch some youtube videos of 3D printing jobs to see where things really stand.

Right now, 3D printing is like television before there was content being broadcast.  It demonstrates the potential but there are few practical applications.  Sure, I can print a rough bowl but I can also run down to the store and buy a 4-pack of smooth bowls for less money in less time.  There have been a few times when it would have been nice to be able to print some plastic replacement parts but there were no existing designs and I had no practical way to create them.  3D scanners are expensive and I have no training or experience with 3D CAD.  Or 2D CAD, for that matter.

We're a long way from the time when generating a read-to-use product will be as simple as picking an item from a menu and clicking "print".


You do realize that several patents are set to expire that will give people access to much higher quality methods of 3D printing, right?
 
2013-08-03 09:42:55 PM

DigitalCoffee: They also failed to mention that most home versions of 3D printers get 70% to 90% complete on a project and then fark it up so badly that you have to start over.


Just when I thought buffer underrun was gone forever:
images1.vat19.com
 
2013-08-03 09:43:22 PM

DigitalCoffee: They mentioned only shower heads and spoon holders in TFA. Since I've only purchased one of each in the past 10 YEARS how the fark am I suppose to recover my costs for a 3D printing system in a single year? They also failed to mention that most home versions of 3D printers get 70% to 90% complete on a project and then fark it up so badly that you have to start over.

Easier, quicker, and cheaper to just go to the store.

/we also don't grow our own veggies and raise our own cattle
//mostly


Pfffft.  Luddite.  Haven't you heard?  You can 3-D print food now.

Unlimited Mountain Dew and Cheetos!  Woooo!

http://www.space.com/21308-3d-printing-nasa-space-food.html

/3-D printed edible real doll?
 
2013-08-03 09:44:29 PM
porn drives technology

so 3d printing will take off if you can print something and shag it
 
2013-08-03 09:49:03 PM

Zombie DJ: The day I can make a life size Scarlet Johansson is the day I quit my job and get a divorce.


Id give up my lifelong quest of trying to become flexable enough to reach my cawk with my head if I had that.
 
2013-08-03 09:50:13 PM
oi42.tinypic.com
 
2013-08-03 09:50:38 PM

Parthenogenetic: Pfffft. Luddite. Haven't you heard? You can 3-D print food now.


Taking a dump is "3D printing"? Certainly doesn't make "food".

/unless you and your friend have a cup
 
2013-08-03 09:52:05 PM

Parthenogenetic: Shadow Blasko: So, until that happens it kinda has and kinda hasn't, depending on how you look at it.

Would that be a quantum situation I detect?

FriarReb98: Huh.   kwame must have a date tonight....

I am going to 3-D print some popcorn and watch this Kwantum Kwatastrophe thread play out.


i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-08-03 09:53:10 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: gopher321: Oh, noes, we can start producing our own cheap crap? Whatever will China do now???

It's the first step toward home replication Star Trek style  I'm encouraged by this, actually.  I plan to put at least one RepRap in the Library's MakerSpace.


When I can replicate a good scotch I'll know we are there
 
2013-08-03 09:55:57 PM

shanrick: Benevolent Misanthrope: RepRap

Do you know what is the cost of materials for one to replicate itself vs buying a new one?


Did somebody say "replicators"?
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
I'll be in the armory getting my zat gun and P90.
 
2013-08-03 09:56:55 PM

jtown: We're a long way from the time when generating a read-to-use product will be as simple as picking an item from a menu and clicking "print".


5 years max.
 
2013-08-03 09:57:15 PM

FriarReb98: Huh.   kwame must have a date tonight....


For certain values of "date," yes.
 
2013-08-03 09:58:18 PM
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/Image is recursively hotlinked to Fark.
 
2013-08-03 10:00:08 PM

fjnorton: Benevolent Misanthrope: gopher321: Oh, noes, we can start producing our own cheap crap? Whatever will China do now???

It's the first step toward home replication Star Trek style  I'm encouraged by this, actually.  I plan to put at least one RepRap in the Library's MakerSpace.

When I can replicate a good scotch I'll know we are there


Sorry, forgot to quote you in that pic post
 
2013-08-03 10:00:15 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: berylman: Pay for itself if you were importing huge batches of hard to manufacture plastic widgets from Denmark before you got a 3-D printer that is.

Shush you Luddite. Science is whatever we want it to be. Anything is possible. All those different materials Luddites use these days and their quaint notions of "tolerances" and "usability" will be steamrolled into oblivion by a large, lumbering 3D juggernaut.

It's the fewcher, doncha know.


Speak of the Devil...
 
2013-08-03 10:01:16 PM
Now I can build my own UFO... Awesome! Now I just have to figure out the whole 'anti-gravity' thing...
 
2013-08-03 10:02:41 PM

SevenizGud: DigitalCoffee: They also failed to mention that most home versions of 3D printers get 70% to 90% complete on a project and then fark it up so badly that you have to start over.

Just when I thought buffer underrun was gone forever:


Long as it can print a torso most farkers would be happy
 
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