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(Opposing Views)   Obama has already spent $120 million more fighting medicinal marijuana than the Bush administration did. "Change" (verb): to do exactly what the idiot before you did, but worse   (opposingviews.com) divider line 195
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2013-08-03 01:42:38 PM  
Why do people get Obama phones, but I can't have my Obamijuana?
 
2013-08-03 01:43:39 PM  
What is that number adjusted for changes in GDP and/or inflation?  Just because it's a higher raw number doesn't mean it's more in a real world sense.
 
2013-08-03 01:44:49 PM  
Subby's concern is noted.
 
2013-08-03 01:45:34 PM  

MrSplifferton: Why do people get Obama phones, but I can't have my Obamijuana?


Because Soshulism!!!

The pattern seems to be that the clinics they raid end up to be dealing outside of medical channels. I honestly do not have a problem with this.

It's not that I think weed should be illegal, and I'm glad to live in a state where it isn't, but you when you just break the rules like that there should be consequences.

There's an easy solution: legalize it already.
 
2013-08-03 01:45:46 PM  
Well, it's the law. The law needs to be changed in my opinion, but until then it must be enforced.
 
2013-08-03 01:48:24 PM  
What I wouldn't do for some sweet, sweet marijuana?  I'm sick and tired of driving safely and sober, and it's literally been 30 years or more since I raped somebody.
 
2013-08-03 01:51:25 PM  
I'm trying to get a breakdown as to how the money is being spent or even to confirm the numbers but the links loop back to the same Weed Blog that has no citations.
 
2013-08-03 01:52:37 PM  
Inhale that change as you take hits from the hope.
 
2013-08-03 01:54:01 PM  

make me some tea: Well, it's the law. The law needs to be changed in my opinion, but until then it must be enforced.


www.liketelevision.com
 
2013-08-03 01:54:45 PM  

make me some tea: Well, it's the law. The law needs to be changed in my opinion, but until then it must be enforced.


Yeah!  fark those states rights!
 
2013-08-03 01:55:19 PM  

MrSplifferton: Why do people get Obama phones, but I can't have my Obamijuana?


You mean Reagan phones right?
 
2013-08-03 01:56:33 PM  

Alphakronik: make me some tea: Well, it's the law. The law needs to be changed in my opinion, but until then it must be enforced.

Yeah!  fark those states rights!


Supreme Court has already ruled on that...

I'm not advocating for it, I believe we need to decriminalize on the federal level, but the law as written right now makes it illegal and the law has to be enforced.
 
2013-08-03 01:57:27 PM  
Kansass was complaining about all that medical grade marijuana that comes into their shiatty state, that they keep confiscating.

/And they really like all that thousands in cash that the drivers have on them too.
 
2013-08-03 01:57:32 PM  

edmo: MrSplifferton: Why do people get Obama phones, but I can't have my Obamijuana?

You mean Reagan phones right?


I thought he meant that he wanted some of what Reagan was smoking.

"I can't recall"

"Mmmm....jellybeans...."
 
2013-08-03 01:57:38 PM  

make me some tea: Well, it's the law. The law needs to be changed in my opinion, but until then it must be enforced.


Eh,  everyone is getting behind that guy in PA performing gay marriages against the state law.  I think people would support Obama if he flat out told the DOJ to stop prosecuting marijuana possession cases.
 
2013-08-03 01:58:52 PM  

Nobodyn0se: What is that number adjusted for changes in GDP and/or inflation?  Just because it's a higher raw number doesn't mean it's more in a real world sense.


Plus, to compare apples to apples, we should only be looking at Bush's first 4.5 years.
 
2013-08-03 01:59:42 PM  

Alphakronik: make me some tea: Well, it's the law. The law needs to be changed in my opinion, but until then it must be enforced.

Yeah!  fark those states rights!


There's no such thing.
 
2013-08-03 02:02:52 PM  

make me some tea: Well, it's the law. The law needs to be changed in my opinion, but until then it must be enforced.


He could choose not to defend those laws, like he has with certain other notable laws recently in public notice.
 
2013-08-03 02:02:55 PM  

Nobodyn0se: What is that number adjusted for changes in GDP and/or inflation?  Just because it's a higher raw number doesn't mean it's more in a real world sense.


8 years Bush/4.5 years Obama times 298 million Obama/168 million Bush = 3.15 times the rate of expenditure. Inflation from 2000 (Bush takes office) to today was 1.36. So he's way more than doubled it in constant dollars.
 
2013-08-03 02:04:51 PM  
Well, you can't say it hasn't created more jobs
 
2013-08-03 02:05:44 PM  
Fark: Americans still fear a plant and the people who use it. Snacking and slow moving still considered dangerous.

Face palm: Americans still hold drunks in high regards as they provide countless hours of internet videos and articles on Fark.
 
2013-08-03 02:06:01 PM  
He is being a hypocrite by continuing to enforce this law like this.  Not even a serious policy change by executive order.
There are a lot more actions the president can take which would make sense and be morally consistent with his previous pot smoking self.
 
2013-08-03 02:06:48 PM  

LoneWolf343: make me some tea: Well, it's the law. The law needs to be changed in my opinion, but until then it must be enforced.

He could choose not to defend those laws, like he has with certain other notable laws recently in public notice.


Um, the President can't just ignore laws. That's grounds for impeachment.
 
2013-08-03 02:07:29 PM  
Unfortunately, it is Congress who needs to change the law, and good luck getting that one past the Republican House.
 
2013-08-03 02:09:30 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: make me some tea: Well, it's the law. The law needs to be changed in my opinion, but until then it must be enforced.

Eh,  everyone is getting behind that guy in PA performing gay marriages against the state law.  I think people would support Obama if he flat out told the DOJ to stop prosecuting marijuana possession cases.


He did, like in his first year of office, at least in terms of the medical marijuana cases.  And then for some reason, they started again.
 
2013-08-03 02:11:44 PM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Unfortunately, it is Congress who needs to change the law, and good luck getting that one past the Republican House.


but  but Republikkkans!
 
2013-08-03 02:13:22 PM  
Is this where we pretend that Republicans want to legalize marijuana?
 
2013-08-03 02:14:33 PM  

make me some tea: Alphakronik: make me some tea: Well, it's the law. The law needs to be changed in my opinion, but until then it must be enforced.

Yeah!  fark those states rights!

Supreme Court has already ruled on that...

I'm not advocating for it, I believe we need to decriminalize on the federal level, but the law as written right now makes it illegal and the law has to be enforced.


Uh-huh. You don't say.
 
2013-08-03 02:15:30 PM  
So DOMA can be ignored, but we need to double our effort against marijuana?
 
2013-08-03 02:16:21 PM  

propasaurus: Is this where we pretend that Republicans want to legalize marijuana?


The more socially libertarian ones do, but they're in minority.  Most of the Tea Party people seem to like the laissez-faire libertarian view on economics, but are extremely conservative socially.  They really managed to find a way to take the worst elements of each platform and combine them.
 
2013-08-03 02:17:34 PM  

SCUBA_Archer: So DOMA can be ignored, but we need to double our effort against marijuana?


demotivators.despair.com
 
2013-08-03 02:19:31 PM  

propasaurus: Is this where we pretend that Republicans want to legalize marijuana?


You can pretend whatever you want if you need to make some sort of excuses to deflect any negativity away from our authoritarian administration.
 
2013-08-03 02:20:09 PM  
Timeline of medical marijuana in US
(State-level legalization)

1996 - California
1998 - Alaska, Oregon, Washington
1999 - Maine
2000 - Colorado, Hawaii, Nevada
2004 - Montana
2006 - Rhode Island
2007 - New Mexico, Vermont
2008 - Michigan
2010 - Arizona, New Jersey
2011 - Delaware, Washington DC
2012 - Connecticut, Massachusetts

Rate and amount of states legalizing under state law increases.
Amount of money spent by the feds to enforce federal law increases within the same time frame.

Must be a coincidence.

Just farking legalize it already and take my money.
 
2013-08-03 02:21:44 PM  

SCUBA_Archer: So DOMA can be ignored, but we need to double our effort against marijuana?


DOMA is shyte.
 
2013-08-03 02:21:59 PM  
Why does Obama think this unjust war is worth all the Blood and Treasure that he's spending?
 
2013-08-03 02:22:18 PM  
I'm sure he's attempting to blame it on Bush, still though.
 
2013-08-03 02:23:42 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: SCUBA_Archer: So DOMA can be ignored, but we need to double our effort against marijuana?

DOMA is shyte.


So are our drug laws, but someone here said that so long as it is the law of the land, it must be enforced.
 
2013-08-03 02:25:44 PM  
I'm smoking weed while talking on my Obama Phone.
 
2013-08-03 02:26:25 PM  

MrSplifferton: Why do people get Obama phones, but I can't have my Obamijuana?


You can if you come to Marajuashington.
 
2013-08-03 02:29:07 PM  

Nabb1: Kumana Wanalaia: SCUBA_Archer: So DOMA can be ignored, but we need to double our effort against marijuana?

DOMA is shyte.

So are our drug laws, but someone here said that so long as it is the law of the land, it must be enforced.


It's almost as if stoners aren't a class of people with inalienable traits.
 
2013-08-03 02:32:45 PM  

codergirl42: Nabb1: Kumana Wanalaia: SCUBA_Archer: So DOMA can be ignored, but we need to double our effort against marijuana?

DOMA is shyte.

So are our drug laws, but someone here said that so long as it is the law of the land, it must be enforced.

It's almost as if stoners aren't a class of people with inalienable traits.


There are more people who smoke marijuana than gay people (don't get me wrong, I fully support marriage equality and gay rights) and there are many more people who wish they could smoke marijuana but who don't because of the legal status.

Legalizing it would actually directly benefit more people than repealing DOMA (not that it's an either or - we should legalize marijuana and make sure there is marriage equality in all 50 states).
 
2013-08-03 02:33:18 PM  

MFAWG: MrSplifferton: Why do people get Obama phones, but I can't have my Obamijuana?

Because Soshulism!!!

The pattern seems to be that the clinics they raid end up to be dealing outside of medical channels. I honestly do not have a problem with this.

It's not that I think weed should be illegal, and I'm glad to live in a state where it isn't, but you when you just break the rules like that there should be consequences.

There's an easy solution: legalize it already.


For some reason I think there is nothing on earth that Obama could do that you would have a problem with.
 
2013-08-03 02:34:41 PM  

codergirl42: Nabb1: Kumana Wanalaia: SCUBA_Archer: So DOMA can be ignored, but we need to double our effort against marijuana?

DOMA is shyte.

So are our drug laws, but someone here said that so long as it is the law of the land, it must be enforced.

It's almost as if stoners aren't a class of people with inalienable traits.


Like I said - whatever you need to avoid criticizing the President. Let's all cheer lead the pointless war on drugs behind our dreamy President.
 
2013-08-03 02:35:28 PM  
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2013-08-03 02:35:30 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: codergirl42: Nabb1: Kumana Wanalaia: SCUBA_Archer: So DOMA can be ignored, but we need to double our effort against marijuana?

DOMA is shyte.

So are our drug laws, but someone here said that so long as it is the law of the land, it must be enforced.

It's almost as if stoners aren't a class of people with inalienable traits.

There are more people who smoke marijuana than gay people (don't get me wrong, I fully support marriage equality and gay rights) and there are many more people who wish they could smoke marijuana but who don't because of the legal status.

Legalizing it would actually directly benefit more people than repealing DOMA (not that it's an either or - we should legalize marijuana and make sure there is marriage equality in all 50 states).


I agree, I also happen to be a gay stoner in a state where weed is legal. But I think DOMA and drug laws aren't even in the same category of discussion.
 
2013-08-03 02:36:59 PM  

Nabb1: codergirl42: Nabb1: Kumana Wanalaia: SCUBA_Archer: So DOMA can be ignored, but we need to double our effort against marijuana?

DOMA is shyte.

So are our drug laws, but someone here said that so long as it is the law of the land, it must be enforced.

It's almost as if stoners aren't a class of people with inalienable traits.

Like I said - whatever you need to avoid criticizing the President. Let's all cheer lead the pointless war on drugs behind our dreamy President.


I'm not giving him a pass. I voted for him and this is one of the things I'm not happy about. But I'm also gay and his stance towards gay rights has had a far greater impact on my life than the enforcement of drug laws.
 
2013-08-03 02:37:30 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Well, you can't say it hasn't created more jobs


Do you realize how many jobs would be created by repealing cannabis prohibitions? I'm talking both marijuana and hemp.
 
2013-08-03 02:39:59 PM  

jigger: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Well, you can't say it hasn't created more jobs

Do you realize how many jobs would be created by repealing cannabis prohibitions? I'm talking both marijuana and hemp.


Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm on your side

/but DEA agents and prison guards are jobs, too
//just sayin'
 
2013-08-03 02:40:09 PM  

make me some tea: LoneWolf343: make me some tea: Well, it's the law. The law needs to be changed in my opinion, but until then it must be enforced.

He could choose not to defend those laws, like he has with certain other notable laws recently in public notice.

Um, the President can't just ignore laws. That's grounds for impeachment.


It's farked up issue; if liberals had thrown Obama under the bus in '12, how likely is that Romney would have been, like, "Dudes, we need to mellow out on this weed business, man!"?

Both sides really are bad on this particular issue, but I don't think voting Republican is the answer.
 
2013-08-03 02:40:34 PM  
But I was told weed makes young black men go crazy and attack people on the street.
 
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