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(4Utah.com)   Escort contracted by Delta loses a farker's 9-year old daughter at an airport while she was traveling by herself. YOU DON'T LOSE KIDS AT AIRPORTS   (abc4.com) divider line 217
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2013-08-03 11:45:51 AM
"Could have been kidnapped"? really guy?

/I'm glad we're being rational about this and keeping things in perspective
 
2013-08-03 11:56:14 AM
you trust an airline to be able to take care of your child when she's flying unaccompanied

Why?

And the only one who compromised her security was the person who stuck her on flights by herself.
 
2013-08-03 12:20:32 PM
To be fair, escort service employees typically have other work.
 
2013-08-03 12:40:16 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: you trust an airline to be able to take care of your child when she's flying unaccompanied

Why?

And the only one who compromised her security was the person who stuck her on flights by herself.


I knew someone once who went through a divorce, and was (as I understood the story) court ordered to put her 7 year-old kid on a plane (at the ex's expense) from TN to CA for visitations.  The ex's lawyer had apparently mentioned in court that the kid would be supervised throughout the trip, but the airline said that this was not the case at all, and that no one would be with the child.  I suggested she not send the kid, but the court had pretty much told her to do it, so I don't know what she felt her options were.
 
2013-08-03 12:46:51 PM

Relatively Obscure: The My Little Pony Killer: you trust an airline to be able to take care of your child when she's flying unaccompanied

Why?

And the only one who compromised her security was the person who stuck her on flights by herself.

I knew someone once who went through a divorce, and was (as I understood the story) court ordered to put her 7 year-old kid on a plane (at the ex's expense) from TN to CA for visitations.  The ex's lawyer had apparently mentioned in court that the kid would be supervised throughout the trip, but the airline said that this was not the case at all, and that no one would be with the child.  I suggested she not send the kid, but the court had pretty much told her to do it, so I don't know what she felt her options were.


Inside of an airport past security is one of the safest places you could be.  There's security everywhere, cameras everywhere, and everyone has been screened for weapons, shown ID, and had to purchase a ticket to get past that point.  It's really a worst-case scenario for a potential abductor.

Plus, when it comes to connecting flights, I can't imagine airline employees wouldn't be willing to walk a kid to their next gate if they showed them the ticket.
 
2013-08-03 12:53:24 PM
Overreact much?  This wasn't Ciudad Juarez.

And what kind of douchebag names their kid Trinity, anyway?  That's definitely an escort name, and not the kind subby is referring to in the headline....
 
2013-08-03 12:58:10 PM
Has anyone checked in the trunks in Baggage. I hear you can find all kinds of kids in them.

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2013-08-03 01:09:35 PM
Are we supposed to be nice because this happened to a farker or mean because this happened to a farker?
 
2013-08-03 01:14:44 PM
"She was changing flights when all the sudden she looked up "
GED in journalism?
 
2013-08-03 01:17:56 PM
Did the escort ever show up at the gate or otherwise contact anyone to try to reacquire the child?

Maybe the escort was kidnapped.

/not really
//I'd be furious, too
 
2013-08-03 01:25:09 PM

Relatively Obscure: The My Little Pony Killer: you trust an airline to be able to take care of your child when she's flying unaccompanied

Why?

And the only one who compromised her security was the person who stuck her on flights by herself.

I knew someone once who went through a divorce, and was (as I understood the story) court ordered to put her 7 year-old kid on a plane (at the ex's expense) from TN to CA for visitations.  The ex's lawyer had apparently mentioned in court that the kid would be supervised throughout the trip, but the airline said that this was not the case at all, and that no one would be with the child.  I suggested she not send the kid, but the court had pretty much told her to do it, so I don't know what she felt her options were.


Get a certified statement from the airline as to their policy and request an emergency stay. If the court keeps its stance in light of the proper information, apply to the appellate court for a stay until you have a definitive ruling. My guess is the order would at the very least get modified to require some adult supervision for the trip.

Either that or just travel with the kid and get a hotel, which could wind up being cheaper.
 
2013-08-03 01:26:02 PM
Any parent is going to freak out over the safety of their kid.

Any consumer is going to freak out over spending $100 and not getting what you paid for.

I don't know where I'm going with this, but it's clear it's time to FREAK THE FARK OUT!
 
2013-08-03 01:31:44 PM
What kind of jackass names their kid "Trinity"?

Apparently the kind that sends then alone on flights and then gets their panties twisted when this happens.
 
2013-08-03 01:33:50 PM
If I were that dad, I'd raise holy hell until I got my $100 back.
 
2013-08-03 01:39:37 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: Are we supposed to be nice because this happened to a farker or mean because this happened to a farker?


The crowd seems to be turning on him at this point

/the wanker
 
2013-08-03 01:46:21 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: antidisestablishmentarianism: Are we supposed to be nice because this happened to a farker or mean because this happened to a farker?

The crowd seems to be turning on him at this point

/the wanker


I can understand being annoyed about paying someone for a service they didn't render, but the histrionics are a bit overboard - she wasn't lost in a strange city or in danger, she was in an airport terminal full of security-screened people, security guards, and cameras.  A nine year old should be capable of finding a departure gate.
 
2013-08-03 02:00:45 PM

TuteTibiImperes: MaudlinMutantMollusk: antidisestablishmentarianism: Are we supposed to be nice because this happened to a farker or mean because this happened to a farker?

The crowd seems to be turning on him at this point

/the wanker

I can understand being annoyed about paying someone for a service they didn't render, but the histrionics are a bit overboard - she wasn't lost in a strange city or in danger, she was in an airport terminal full of security-screened people, security guards, and cameras.  A nine year old should be capable of finding a departure gate.



If you give $100.00 to an escort, just let it go before she screams for her pimp

/seriously, though, yeah, he should get his money back at the very least
 
2013-08-03 02:11:05 PM
"She's going to be freaking out from here on out about flying by herself," says Skeen.
Yes. Self-fulfilling prophecy. You keep telling her that. Make a gantseh megilla out of that.

You should sue the escort service for pain and suffering. To the adult. It's understandable to be angry at the excort company. But proper action is to REMAIN CALM both during and after such incident.
 
2013-08-03 02:20:10 PM

gilgigamesh: Relatively Obscure: The My Little Pony Killer: you trust an airline to be able to take care of your child when she's flying unaccompanied

Why?

And the only one who compromised her security was the person who stuck her on flights by herself.

I knew someone once who went through a divorce, and was (as I understood the story) court ordered to put her 7 year-old kid on a plane (at the ex's expense) from TN to CA for visitations.  The ex's lawyer had apparently mentioned in court that the kid would be supervised throughout the trip, but the airline said that this was not the case at all, and that no one would be with the child.  I suggested she not send the kid, but the court had pretty much told her to do it, so I don't know what she felt her options were.

Get a certified statement from the airline as to their policy and request an emergency stay. If the court keeps its stance in light of the proper information, apply to the appellate court for a stay until you have a definitive ruling. My guess is the order would at the very least get modified to require some adult supervision for the trip.

Either that or just travel with the kid and get a hotel, which could wind up being cheaper.


Well, I'm not involved and it's too late for me to tell her that, but thanks
 
2013-08-03 02:33:43 PM

Pray 4 Mojo: What kind of jackass names their kid "Trinity"?

Apparently the kind that sends then alone on flights and then gets their panties twisted when this happens.



I hate that name....mostly because it's the name of the douchiest club in Seattle.

/Only been there once.
//Never again.
 
2013-08-03 02:38:54 PM
She was changing flights when all the sudden

Stewie replies
 
2013-08-03 02:43:32 PM

Pray 4 Mojo: What kind of jackass names their kid "Trinity"?


The Matrix came out in 1999.  If the kid was 13 or 14 I could understand it.   Unfortunately, the kid is 9, which means she was born in 2004 - the year after The MatrixRevolutions was released, so she was named for a character in a s**ty sequel.
 
2013-08-03 02:47:10 PM

FloydA: She was changing flights when all the sudden

Stewie replies


That a whole nother issue right there.

Also. Dude... you're in farking Boise! Drive the kid the 4 hours to SLC and put her on the farking plane yourself. Less stress, cheaper and you're home by dinner.

/I wonder if they named her Trinity to troll Mormons.
 
2013-08-03 03:01:37 PM

FloydA: Pray 4 Mojo: What kind of jackass names their kid "Trinity"?

The Matrix came out in 1999.  If the kid was 13 or 14 I could understand it.   Unfortunately, the kid is 9, which means she was born in 2004 - the year after The MatrixRevolutions was released, so she was named for a character in a s**ty sequel.


Could have been this Trinity
i47.tinypic.com
Not likely, I know, but I wanted to post that
 
2013-08-03 03:11:07 PM

Relatively Obscure: Well, I'm not involved and it's too late for me to tell her that, but thanks


If the other side misled the court (even if it was unintentional), I'd be running back to court to correct the record. I'm assuming she had counsel and was probably advised something along those lines.
 
2013-08-03 03:28:28 PM
She could have been kidnapped, it was in a city she's not familiar with and her safety and security was compromised

images.sodahead.com

Not unheard of in Salt Lake City... (that's Elizabeth Smart in the veil)

antidisestablishmentarianism: Are we supposed to be nice because this happened to a farker or mean because this happened to a farker?


Yes
 
2013-08-03 03:51:22 PM

Paris1127: Not unheard of in Salt Lake City... (that's Elizabeth Smart in the veil)


i1.ytimg.com

It's so wonderful to have her home and fill this house with harp music once more. I mean, most of the songs are about rape, but STILL.
 
2013-08-03 04:12:17 PM
why would you even consider jorie as a babysitter?
 
2013-08-03 04:16:27 PM
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... but with pigtails.
 
2013-08-03 04:16:28 PM
Fark just HATES it when someone is justifiably outraged.

/You had ONE job, Non-prostitute Escort Lady....
 
2013-08-03 04:17:08 PM
WTF sort of parent lets a 9 year-old sit thigh-to-thigh with strangers on a damned airliner?  I always shipped my kid in a sturdy crate for his protection.
 
2013-08-03 04:18:55 PM
How much does it cost for someone to make sure your kid is ok in an airport?
 
2013-08-03 04:20:15 PM
/YOU HAD ONE JOB!
 
2013-08-03 04:21:08 PM
He should get his money back, but since this a farker we're talking about, he'll hire Gloria Allred to sue the non prostitution escort company, the airline and the city for his pain and suffering.
 
2013-08-03 04:21:34 PM
How much better would this have been if it was "Dad very proud of daughter working through her fear and getting through a tough situation".  Your daughter made it to your arms safely, cause 99% of the time that's what happens.  Freaking out because something COULD have happened is a waste of energy.
 
2013-08-03 04:21:38 PM

Kevin72: "She's going to be freaking out from here on out about flying by herself," says Skeen.
Yes. Self-fulfilling prophecy. You keep telling her that. Make a gantseh megilla out of that.

You should sue the escort service for pain and suffering. To the adult. It's understandable to be angry at the excort company. But proper action is to REMAIN CALM both during and after such incident.


We can't sue. The fark collective wisdom says all lawyers are scum sucking ambulance chasers.
 
2013-08-03 04:21:53 PM

BarkingUnicorn: WTF sort of parent lets a 9 year-old sit thigh-to-thigh with strangers on a damned airliner?  I always shipped my kid in a sturdy crate for his protection.


I used UPS for exactly that reason
 
2013-08-03 04:22:32 PM

Relatively Obscure: The My Little Pony Killer: you trust an airline to be able to take care of your child when she's flying unaccompanied

Why?

And the only one who compromised her security was the person who stuck her on flights by herself.

I knew someone once who went through a divorce, and was (as I understood the story) court ordered to put her 7 year-old kid on a plane (at the ex's expense) from TN to CA for visitations.  The ex's lawyer had apparently mentioned in court that the kid would be supervised throughout the trip, but the airline said that this was not the case at all, and that no one would be with the child.  I suggested she not send the kid, but the court had pretty much told her to do it, so I don't know what she felt her options were.


Which airline? Every one that I know of provides unaccompanied minor service for kids under 12, and you can opt to use it for kids 12-17 if you wish (if they have a connection somewhere that they aren't familiar with, it isn't a bad idea, even for older kids)
The only one I know of that doesn't offer it for connecting flights is Southwest. If the itinerary includes a plane change, they won't board the kid without an adult. However, if it is a flight that stops somewhere, then continues on to where they need to be, they'll fly an unaccompanied minor..the kid just stays on the plane with the FAs during the layover.

I have a 12 year old daughter in another state that has to travel this way, it has never been an issue. Connecting through DFW on AA, they even have a special room for the UAMs that has gaming systems, movies, all sorts of stuff to keep them amused. The only time there isn't an adult right there with the kid is when they're on the plane itself, but there it isn't like the kid is going to run off at FL350.
 
2013-08-03 04:23:24 PM
"when all the sudden "

This is bad and you should feel bad.
 
2013-08-03 04:23:44 PM
cookiefleck:  he'll hire Gloria Allred to sue the non prostitution escort company, the airline and the city for his pain and suffering.

Sounds about right, seeing that he called the TV station to get the story publicized.
 
2013-08-03 04:23:45 PM
Not CSB: was pre9/11 of course but i always had to fly by myself going between parents.. they'd escort me onto the plane, have me wait to be the last one off and escort me out and make sure i was handed to my parent waiting at the gate.. Standard service for anyone under 12 flying alone I think.

CSB: One time after we walked off the plane and into the terminal the flight attendant said he forgot something and so went to punch in the code to go back onto the tarmac.. None of the codes he knew worked. After a few attempts he said wait right here while I go find out the new code and went around the corner for a second, came back, and there I was holding the door wide open to the tarmac with a smile saying "I got it!"   Yay pre-9/11 security =D
 
2013-08-03 04:24:32 PM

Godamnlimey: "She was changing flights when all the sudden she looked up "
GED in journalism?


Stopped reading at that point. That kind of thing irritates me, especially when done by a "professional" writer.
 
2013-08-03 04:24:36 PM

BarkingUnicorn: WTF sort of parent lets a 9 year-old sit thigh-to-thigh with strangers on a damned airliner?  I always shipped my kid in a sturdy crate for his protection.


I wont even let my kid be searched as a terrorist in the security line.

Stopped flying.  Inconvenient, but thems the breaks.
 
2013-08-03 04:26:52 PM

BarkingUnicorn: WTF sort of parent lets a 9 year-old sit thigh-to-thigh with strangers on a damned airliner?  I always shipped my kid in a sturdy crate for his protection.


I hope you wrap them up in bubble-wrap too. Those crates can cause bruising and give you splinters in your nether regions.

I'd be really pissed off too Subby.
 
2013-08-03 04:26:58 PM
You have to excuse the escort, he's DEAD TIRED.
 
2013-08-03 04:27:47 PM

Fark It: Overreact much?  This wasn't Ciudad Juarez.

And what kind of douchebag names their kid Trinity, anyway?


cdn1.sbnation.com
 
2013-08-03 04:30:43 PM
So glad our nephew is flying home nonstop next weekend.

/Of course, he'll be on Aeroflot. You can always trust a Russian escort...
 
2013-08-03 04:37:10 PM

gilgigamesh: Relatively Obscure: The My Little Pony Killer: you trust an airline to be able to take care of your child when she's flying unaccompanied

Why?

And the only one who compromised her security was the person who stuck her on flights by herself.

I knew someone once who went through a divorce, and was (as I understood the story) court ordered to put her 7 year-old kid on a plane (at the ex's expense) from TN to CA for visitations.  The ex's lawyer had apparently mentioned in court that the kid would be supervised throughout the trip, but the airline said that this was not the case at all, and that no one would be with the child.  I suggested she not send the kid, but the court had pretty much told her to do it, so I don't know what she felt her options were.

Get a certified statement from the airline as to their policy and request an emergency stay. If the court keeps its stance in light of the proper information, apply to the appellate court for a stay until you have a definitive ruling. My guess is the order would at the very least get modified to require some adult supervision for the trip.

Either that or just travel with the kid and get a hotel, which could wind up being cheaper.

Or just look here :


http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/traveling-with-us/special-tra ve l-needs/children.html

What I remember seeing many times is children wearing the airlines plastic pouch on a necklace or bib with the words "Unaccompanied minor" and some info on displayed through the pouch.

The FA's procedure is to latch on the kid from the gate agent and on arrival deliver the kid to the next gate agent. How can this procedure ever result in  minor dereliquerunt ?

Could have been a lot worse  http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2010/03/child_rap e _charge_rocks_tsa
 
2013-08-03 04:37:43 PM

Relatively Obscure: The My Little Pony Killer: you trust an airline to be able to take care of your child when she's flying unaccompanied

Why?

And the only one who compromised her security was the person who stuck her on flights by herself.

I knew someone once who went through a divorce, and was (as I understood the story) court ordered to put her 7 year-old kid on a plane (at the ex's expense) from TN to CA for visitations.  The ex's lawyer had apparently mentioned in court that the kid would be supervised throughout the trip, but the airline said that this was not the case at all, and that no one would be with the child.  I suggested she not send the kid, but the court had pretty much told her to do it, so I don't know what she felt her options were.


She could have flown with the kid herself, then turned around and went home.  That was an option.  They could have taken turns if they were both reasonable people.  Mom escorts the kid to dad's location, dad escorts the kid to mom's location.
 
2013-08-03 04:38:06 PM

mooseyfate: Fark just HATES it when someone is justifiably outraged.


No, we all pretty much agree that he's right to be upset that a service he paid for was not rendered properly, especially when it came to helping his child navigate an unfamiliar place.  Where we stop being sympathetic is when he goes all "She could have been KIDNAPPED (from one of the most secure areas citizens without governmental security clearance can enter)" and "She's going to freak out about flying by herself for FOREVER now (because I keep freaking out about it and it's well known that children get more upset about a thing if they see their parents are upset about it)!"

And seriously, a nine-year-old couldn't figure out "find someone from security and ask their help" on their own?  She had to call daddy to be told to do that?
 
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