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(AP)   Sacrifice: USS Indianapolis survivors are attending their last big reunion. Thirty-eight of the 317 men who survived the ship's July 1945 sinking and five days in the Pacific's shark-infested waters are still alive   (hosted.ap.org) divider line 19
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2013-08-03 02:18:04 PM  
10 votes:
I was talking to a friend about Eugene Sledge's book yesterday and I got to thinking how fortunate I am to have been born to a WWII vet and to have grown up around as many as I did. My uncle was USN and was at Iwo Jima and Okinawa, my best friend's Father was wounded at Enewitok, next door neighbor was Army infantry in Europe, three across the street flew Marauders, Mitchells and Super Fortresses. My landlord in college was captured at the fall of Corregedor and spent 4 years in a Japanese POW camp. In my little town I became acquainted with quite a few others...a Lodge Brother that earned a Silver Star as a Marine in the Pacific, one that was Army in the Philippines, a neighbor that flew P40s over Normandy, his Brother that, like my Father, was a USCG combat vet. A few of my customers as well. One that was a navigator on a Flying Fortress that was shot down over France, one that had survived a kamikaze attack in the Pacific and one that  lived through Okinawa as did Sledge. Funny how most of them never really talked much unless asked (one local man who was captured in Phillipsburg, Germany in January 1945 and spent 'only' 5 or so months as a POW absolutely REFUSED to say anything about it to his dying day) and even when they discussed it the common thread was they 'did what had to be done'.

As Stephen Ambrose wrote in Band of Brothers, "They had been kicked around by the Depression, had the scars to show for it. They had grown up, many of them, without enough to eat, with holes in the soles of their shoes, with ragged sweaters and no car and often not a radio. Their educations had been cut short either by the Depression or by the war.
  "Yet with this background, i had and still have a great love for my country," Harry Welch declared forty eight years later. Whatever their legitimate complaints about how life had treated them they had not soured on it or on their country."

Subsequent generations will suffer for not knowing these fine men and women.
2013-08-03 04:01:08 PM  
3 votes:
I find it hard to believe that when I was a wee lad, so many of these heroes were alive and still young enough to be working still... And now they're very old, dropping like flies.

Time is the fire in which we burn.
2013-08-03 03:25:20 PM  
3 votes:
Here's the Indianapolis speech from Jaws.
2013-08-03 04:26:03 PM  
2 votes:

catmandu: His only stories were the "funny" things that happened


This was my landlord that I referenced in my img1.fark.net . He only recounted two stories to me of his experience. One was of a picture that is on the back cover of a Time Life book of the war. It's a picture of POWs being release in Japan and in the background is a gaunt looking man staring at a Japanese woman who was forced to stand and watch the procession of prisoners (I guess to shame the population as was done to Germans who lived around concentration camps). He pointed at it and said "That's me. Right after that picture was taken I spit in that Jap biatches face." Now I knew Richard to be a bit of an asshole but this was a bit much for a sheltered suburban white kid all of 19 year old to handle. The second story put it in perspective. He thought it to be funny as hell.

He was forced into labor in the coal mines of Japan and lived on very little food "Rice and maggots" was how he put it and water. One morning a group of POWs were taken to the docks and told to spit shine the deck of a ship where "a bunch of Jap brass" was going to meet. On the deck was a table set with a white tablecloth nice china, silverware, crystal etc. In the middle of the table was a bowl of apricots and the urge got to be too much for a guy who had been living on "rice and maggots" for over a year and he walked past the table a few times and as he did he'd snag an apricot. After a few passes a Japanese officer saw him grab one and eat it. The officer pulled him aside and proceeded to berate him going as far as to hit him with a baton a few times. Well, as it were the apricots were a bit much for the digestive system of a guy who had eaten little more than "rice and maggots" and he "threw up every last one of those apricots all over that little Jap bastard." As he told me this his face lit up and he started laughing. "They beat me for days", he said, "but it was worth ever lick they gave me to see that little slant eyed mother  farker covered in my puke."

We think our lives are hard...
2013-08-03 04:22:37 PM  
2 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: I was talking to a friend about Eugene Sledge's book yesterday and I got to thinking how fortunate I am to have been born to a WWII vet and to have grown up around as many as I did. My uncle was USN and was at Iwo Jima and Okinawa, my best friend's Father was wounded at Enewitok, next door neighbor was Army infantry in Europe, three across the street flew Marauders, Mitchells and Super Fortresses. My landlord in college was captured at the fall of Corregedor and spent 4 years in a Japanese POW camp. In my little town I became acquainted with quite a few others...a Lodge Brother that earned a Silver Star as a Marine in the Pacific, one that was Army in the Philippines, a neighbor that flew P40s over Normandy, his Brother that, like my Father, was a USCG combat vet. A few of my customers as well. One that was a navigator on a Flying Fortress that was shot down over France, one that had survived a kamikaze attack in the Pacific and one that  lived through Okinawa as did Sledge. Funny how most of them never really talked much unless asked (one local man who was captured in Phillipsburg, Germany in January 1945 and spent 'only' 5 or so months as a POW absolutely REFUSED to say anything about it to his dying day) and even when they discussed it the common thread was they 'did what had to be done'.

As Stephen Ambrose wrote in Band of Brothers, "They had been kicked around by the Depression, had the scars to show for it. They had grown up, many of them, without enough to eat, with holes in the soles of their shoes, with ragged sweaters and no car and often not a radio. Their educations had been cut short either by the Depression or by the war.
  "Yet with this background, i had and still have a great love for my country," Harry Welch declared forty eight years later. Whatever their legitimate complaints about how life had treated them they had not soured on it or on their country."

Subsequent generations will suffer for not knowing these fine men and women.


When the war broke out, nobody wanted to go. They weren't sucking the flag every chance they got. They went because the had to, and grumbled about it the whole way. Then, when the war was over, they could play the Real American Hero who wanted to go to war all along.
2013-08-03 12:50:46 PM  
2 votes:
They should totally have the reunion at a theater showing "Sharknado"
2013-08-03 07:49:44 PM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: Subsequent generations will suffer for not knowing these fine men and women.


My high school choir director was in the Army band in Europe.  What most don't know is the bandsmen were graves registration when they weren't playing.  He has eight large photo albums (couple of hundred pages each) full of the death camps and the survivors.  If you didn't know him very well you would never guess.

Why I despise the holocaust deniers.
gja [TotalFark]
2013-08-03 06:41:56 PM  
1 votes:

sheep snorter: USS Liberty survivors still miffed at being ignored on their anniversary.  Maybe if they wore a sexy nighty made of wool and had a couple of holes to use for super happy fun time in a blessed bed space.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident


That's patently offensive. It was a bad thing to post (the bed-clothing bit) and you should feel bad.
2013-08-03 06:15:48 PM  
1 votes:

sheep snorter: USS Liberty survivors still miffed at being ignored on their anniversary.  Maybe if they wore a sexy nighty made of wool and had a couple of holes to use for super happy fun time in a blessed bed space.


Maybe if they weren't a spy ship caught transferring Israeli war maneuvers to unfriendly nations, they would be more sexy.
2013-08-03 05:33:06 PM  
1 votes:
USS Liberty survivors still miffed at being ignored on their anniversary.  Maybe if they wore a sexy nighty made of wool and had a couple of holes to use for super happy fun time in a blessed bed space.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
2013-08-03 04:37:32 PM  
1 votes:
Brave men who went through a shark filled hell for us all.
2013-08-03 04:29:36 PM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: Funny how most of them never really talked much unless asked


My dad was infantry in Europe. Germany,Brussels,France. He never would talk much. Had five medals, one a purple heart. (almost lost his feet to frostbite) the others for ground campaigns. Said he loved the German country side. Reminded him of home. Also said they were good cooks. But would never talk about the fighting and what he saw. Did say the boat ride over there was rough. They went through a huge storm and the waves would take them way up and then drop them *boom*. But he would never talk about the really bad stuff.
2013-08-03 04:26:35 PM  
1 votes:

whither_apophis: And to cover their asses for the loss of life, the Navy court-martialed Cap. McVay.




After years of being sent hate mail. Cap. McVay committed suicide in 1968 using his Navy-issue revolver. It only took a act of Congress 2000 before the Navy fixed McVay's record and cleared of all wrongdoing in 2001.
2013-08-03 04:03:24 PM  
1 votes:
www.hyscience.com


// How we measure courage and sacrifice today !
2013-08-03 03:43:27 PM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: I was talking to a friend about Eugene Sledge's book yesterday and I got to thinking how fortunate I am to have been born to a WWII vet and to have grown up around as many as I did. My uncle was USN and was at Iwo Jima and Okinawa, my best friend's Father was wounded at Enewitok, next door neighbor was Army infantry in Europe, three across the street flew Marauders, Mitchells and Super Fortresses. My landlord in college was captured at the fall of Corregedor and spent 4 years in a Japanese POW camp. In my little town I became acquainted with quite a few others...a Lodge Brother that earned a Silver Star as a Marine in the Pacific, one that was Army in the Philippines, a neighbor that flew P40s over Normandy, his Brother that, like my Father, was a USCG combat vet. A few of my customers as well. One that was a navigator on a Flying Fortress that was shot down over France, one that had survived a kamikaze attack in the Pacific and one that  lived through Okinawa as did Sledge. Funny how most of them never really talked much unless asked (one local man who was captured in Phillipsburg, Germany in January 1945 and spent 'only' 5 or so months as a POW absolutely REFUSED to say anything about it to his dying day) and even when they discussed it the common thread was they 'did what had to be done'.

As Stephen Ambrose wrote in Band of Brothers, "They had been kicked around by the Depression, had the scars to show for it. They had grown up, many of them, without enough to eat, with holes in the soles of their shoes, with ragged sweaters and no car and often not a radio. Their educations had been cut short either by the Depression or by the war.
  "Yet with this background, i had and still have a great love for my country," Harry Welch declared forty eight years later. Whatever their legitimate complaints about how life had treated them they had not soured on it or on their country."

Subsequent generations will suffer for not knowing these fine men and women.


I know exactly what you mean. My Dad served in both the Pacific and European theaters with the Army. He was with the Alaska Defense Command in the Aleutians, then was transferred to Europe as part of the Rainbow Division. He was hospitalized for frostbite, then was shot in the head (bullet bounced off his forehead, just above the hairline) by a German patrol and assumed dead. He recovered from that. His only stories were the "funny" things that happened: shooting rats in Dutch Harbor as the tide went out, going to a movie with a British girl and having a language barrier regarding a slingshot (catapult), showing Errol Flynn how to look at blood under a microscope and his comment that "If that were mine it would be 80 proof". What we know is mostly from his service records and letters his superiors sent to my Grandma.
2013-08-03 03:37:13 PM  
1 votes:
Fatal Voyage: The Sinking of the USS Indianapolis

This is a fantastic book on about the sinking and everything that went wrong for those poor bastards. The author does an excellent job of telling the story from all of the angles, from the Indianapolis crew, the Japanese sub commander that sunk them and the rescue effort.

Shadow Blasko:

i1082.photobucket.com

Dancin_In_Anson: Subsequent generations will suffer for not knowing these fine men and women.


Agreed
2013-08-03 03:27:03 PM  
1 votes:
My grandfather was transferred off the Indianapolis just before it got orders for that mission.  Dodged the shark bullet, so to speak.  He passed several years ago, but had a lot of texts and histories about the ship.
2013-08-03 01:39:34 PM  
1 votes:
www.thesoundsofhistory.com
2013-08-03 10:12:50 AM  
1 votes:
Anyway,  they delivered the bomb.

fare well,  gentlemen.
 
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