Shadow Blasko: Three hundred and sixteen men come back home with their fingers and arseholes fully intact, the hamsters took the rest.
Shadow Blasko:Dancin_In_Anson: Subsequent generations will suffer for not knowing these fine men and women.
Dancin_In_Anson: I was talking to a friend about Eugene Sledge's book yesterday and I got to thinking how fortunate I am to have been born to a WWII vet and to have grown up around as many as I did. My uncle was USN and was at Iwo Jima and Okinawa, my best friend's Father was wounded at Enewitok, next door neighbor was Army infantry in Europe, three across the street flew Marauders, Mitchells and Super Fortresses. My landlord in college was captured at the fall of Corregedor and spent 4 years in a Japanese POW camp. In my little town I became acquainted with quite a few others...a Lodge Brother that earned a Silver Star as a Marine in the Pacific, one that was Army in the Philippines, a neighbor that flew P40s over Normandy, his Brother that, like my Father, was a USCG combat vet. A few of my customers as well. One that was a navigator on a Flying Fortress that was shot down over France, one that had survived a kamikaze attack in the Pacific and one that lived through Okinawa as did Sledge. Funny how most of them never really talked much unless asked (one local man who was captured in Phillipsburg, Germany in January 1945 and spent 'only' 5 or so months as a POW absolutely REFUSED to say anything about it to his dying day) and even when they discussed it the common thread was they 'did what had to be done'.As Stephen Ambrose wrote in Band of Brothers, "They had been kicked around by the Depression, had the scars to show for it. They had grown up, many of them, without enough to eat, with holes in the soles of their shoes, with ragged sweaters and no car and often not a radio. Their educations had been cut short either by the Depression or by the war. "Yet with this background, i had and still have a great love for my country," Harry Welch declared forty eight years later. Whatever their legitimate complaints about how life had treated them they had not soured on it or on their country."Subsequent generations will suffer for not knowing these fine men and women.
One Bad Apple: They should totally have the reunion at a theater showing "Sharknado"
hardinparamedic: [www.thesoundsofhistory.com image 300x335]
OtherLittleGuy: One Bad Apple: They should totally have the reunion at a theater showing "Sharknado"Better than my "Jaws" thought. Leaving satisfied./alternate history: Indy sinks, sharks eat the bomb, radioactive mutant sharks invade Imperial Japan
Primitive Screwhead: The author does an excellent job of telling the story from all of the angles, from the Indianapolis crew, the Japanese sub commander that sunk them and the rescue effort.
catmandu: His only stories were the "funny" things that happened
whither_apophis: And to cover their asses for the loss of life, the Navy court-martialed Cap. McVay.
Dancin_In_Anson: Funny how most of them never really talked much unless asked
Apik0r0s: When the war broke out, nobody wanted to go.
elchip: I find it hard to believe that when I was a wee lad, so many of these heroes were alive and still young enough to be working still... And now they're very old, dropping like flies.Time is the fire in which we burn.
Dr.Mxyzptlk.: [www.hyscience.com image 510x298]// How we measure courage and sacrifice today !
Hobodeluxe: But he would never talk about the really bad stuff.
elchip: Time is the fire in which we burn
Disgruntled Goat: Primitive Screwhead: The author does an excellent job of telling the story from all of the angles, from the Indianapolis crew, the Japanese sub commander that sunk them and the rescue effort.What about the sharks' angle?
Dancin_In_Anson: Apik0r0s: When the war broke out, nobody wanted to go.I did a video history with my Dad in 2003. I asked him about the prevailing attitude at the time. He told me that up until December 6th no one...and he meant NO ONE wanted to get involved. "It wasn't our problem but that all changed a day later."
One Bad Apple: whither_apophis: And to cover their asses for the loss of life, the Navy court-martialed Cap. McVay.His grandson avenged him by bombing the Oklahoma City federal building.
Dancin_In_Anson: catmandu: His only stories were the "funny" things that happenedThis was my landlord that I referenced in my [img1.fark.net image 54x11] . He only recounted two stories to me of his experience. One was of a picture that is on the back cover of a Time Life book of the war. It's a picture of POWs being release in Japan and in the background is a gaunt looking man staring at a Japanese woman who was forced to stand and watch the procession of prisoners (I guess to shame the population as was done to Germans who lived around concentration camps). He pointed at it and said "That's me. Right after that picture was taken I spit in that Jap biatches face." Now I knew Richard to be a bit of an asshole but this was a bit much for a sheltered suburban white kid all of 19 year old to handle. The second story put it in perspective. He thought it to be funny as hell.He was forced into labor in the coal mines of Japan and lived on very little food "Rice and maggots" was how he put it and water. One morning a group of POWs were taken to the docks and told to spit shine the deck of a ship where "a bunch of Jap brass" was going to meet. On the deck was a table set with a white tablecloth nice china, silverware, crystal etc. In the middle of the table was a bowl of apricots and the urge got to be too much for a guy who had been living on "rice and maggots" for over a year and he walked past the table a few times and as he did he'd snag an apricot. After a few passes a Japanese officer saw him grab one and eat it. The officer pulled him aside and proceeded to berate him going as far as to hit him with a baton a few times. Well, as it were the apricots were a bit much for the digestive system of a guy who had eaten little more than "rice and maggots" and he "threw up every last one of those apricots all over that little Jap bastard." As he told me this his face lit up and he started laughing. "They beat me for days", he said, "but it was worth ever lick they gave me to see that litt ...
of the because: 317 survivors and the area code in indianapolis is 317. Can we get Brad Meltzer to decode this coincidence?
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