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(TreeHugger)   Business encourages employees to pedal to work by installing bike racks outside the building, and then requests that nobody use them to help keep the place looking professional   (treehugger.com) divider line 99
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2013-08-03 08:42:42 AM
I wish this was some sort of rare screwball corporate/government moment. Wish.
 
2013-08-03 08:52:22 AM
The person who wrote that should be placed in the bike rack for 30 days, using it as a makeshift pillory.
 
2013-08-03 09:19:06 AM
Who except another employee would even notice how long a bike has been parked there?
 
2013-08-03 09:31:47 AM
If they were so concerned they could perhaps provide a bike room. That way no one has to know that dirty hippies work there.
 
2013-08-03 09:54:25 AM
My Weeners-- "Or else what?"
Second response-- "Sorry to compromise the professional look of that pile of lumber, paneling, and assorted trash next to your bike rack."
 
2013-08-03 09:56:00 AM
you'd think I would know to avoid filter pwnage at this point, but there it is.
 
2013-08-03 11:04:27 AM

dugitman: "Sorry to compromise the professional look of that pile of lumber, paneling, and assorted trash next to your bike rack."


Yeah, that'd be my response to the company. Sorry I parked my bike next to your garbage for too long.
 
2013-08-03 11:05:44 AM
If you think a bike being properly parked in a bike rack is somehow "unprofessional" then you don't know what professional even means.
 
2013-08-03 11:07:10 AM
Again, showing the need for a "WTF" tag for Fark.
 
2013-08-03 11:07:12 AM
I realized some years ago that Dilbert was a documentary.
 
2013-08-03 11:07:18 AM
If I had the money, I'd get a huge forklift (electric!), smash into the rack and leave the lift there. A forklift is a professional tool...
 
2013-08-03 11:07:23 AM
The only way to deal with stuff like this is public shaming, not in Treehugger but maybe something people actually read.
 
2013-08-03 11:08:23 AM
Pretty symptomatic of how corporate green talk is window dressing to avoid a -- corporate image.

Plus most execs seem to look like Dick Cheney, and I guess any fitness equipment handier than a golf club is like a red rag to a bull to these people.
 
2013-08-03 11:10:19 AM
There has to be more to this.
 
2013-08-03 11:11:49 AM
Sounds like the company was trying to mark a box in a green 'certification' program by installing the rack and encouraging bicycling in other ways, but doesn't actually want people to use a bike, they just want to be able to say they meet whatever green standard they've paid consultants to meet.

I'm pro environment, I've even made a decent living at working in the environmental compliance field, but these green certification programs are mostly a way for consultants to make money, and a way for a company to make themselves look good while not actually accomplishing much.
 
2013-08-03 11:13:08 AM

MFAWG: There has to be more to this.


20 years of professional experience in the business world has taught me that no, there doesn't have to be any more to this. There *could* be more to it, but doesn't have to be.
 
2013-08-03 11:14:02 AM
the note is there because a fixed gear isn't a real mode of transportation it's an inefficient and cumbersome way of expressing your hipsterdom.
 
2013-08-03 11:14:49 AM
Heh, yeah right, subby. I'm sure you're exaggerating and it's nothing like th-

*clicks*

I doth beat my head on the tableth due to the stupidity on this earth.
 
2013-08-03 11:15:05 AM
Anyone else sign the "support turtle racing" petition at the bottom?

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2013-08-03 11:16:56 AM
Is that a pic of the bike/'citation' in question?

That place is a damned junkyard. The bike is the only thing that looks halfway decent in that picture.
 
2013-08-03 11:17:17 AM
This sounds weird, but from the perspective of the developer, the bike rack isn't about people riding to work.

The bike rack represents LEED points toward a silver, or gold, or whatever rating for the building's 'green-ness.'

I'm not sure how a better LEED rating helps the developer, beyond just marketing, but I assume they get a more favourable tax rate or subsidies, or an easier time in the permitting/urban planning process.

IIRC, the point value of a bike rack may be somewhere on the level of using low volatile sealants or something like that.

They never intended the bike racks to be used.
 
2013-08-03 11:18:20 AM
In Madison, Wisconsin, there's sort of the opposite problem. Biking is terribly, terribly chic and everyone is tripping over themselves to enable it. Between the dedicated bike trails running out to the suburbs and the bike lanes on major downtown streets, you can get pretty much anywhere. Which is great, but it leaves out a few unfortunate businesses located off the trail-serviced areas. At least one of them has solved this problem by creating a fake trail leading into some tall grass and coming out absolutely nowhere useful.

So from the outside, what you see is a beautifully paved bike trail leading up to gleaming bike racks, because XYZ Corp. is a fun and healthy place to work and supports their hippie employees, etc. I admire the ballsiness of this.
 
2013-08-03 11:18:57 AM

buzzcut73: Sounds like the company was trying to mark a box in a green 'certification' program by installing the rack and encouraging bicycling in other ways, but doesn't actually want people to use a bike, they just want to be able to say they meet whatever green standard they've paid consultants to meet.

I'm pro environment, I've even made a decent living at working in the environmental compliance field, but these green certification programs are mostly a way for consultants to make money, and a way for a company to make themselves look good while not actually accomplishing much.


I basically re-said what you said better...took too long to type it.
 
2013-08-03 11:18:59 AM
The story is somewhat ambiguous but from what I gather Molly works at a business that rents space in a commercial building owned by Cadillac-Fairview (a large commercial real estate company), and is not an employee of CF herself. They probably put the bike racks there for customers visiting the building and want workers to either take their bikes inside their offices, or park at the rear of the building.  Similar policies apply to cars:There's a CF owned building near my work and they have a policy that the front parking lot is customers only, and all building employees must park in the back or off-site.

If that's their goal they should put racks at the rear as well or offer indoor bike storage (in many cities this a mandatory feature when building new commercial and residential buildings).
 
2013-08-03 11:20:24 AM
how does one get a parking ticket on a bike, I could understand if the rider was physically present, but a ticket attached to my bike would end up in the dumpster, I mean do they have license plates for bikes there or something? how do they know who it belongs to?
 
2013-08-03 11:20:30 AM
FTFA: Other tweeters have noted that there is bike parking inside the garage (for a monthly fee),

I suspect this is what the company really wants to encourage.  Don't want to lose that sweet parking garage money if people start actually buying this "going green" crap.
 
2013-08-03 11:21:13 AM

mongbiohazard: If you think a bike being properly parked in a bike rack is somehow "unprofessional" then you don't know what professional even means.


A person who begins a piece of business correspondence with the words, "Hi Molly" has a lot of nerve talking about professionalism.
 
2013-08-03 11:21:55 AM

cowgirl toffee: Anyone else sign the "support turtle racing" petition at the bottom?


Yup.

Turtles make me happy. So do tortoises.
 
2013-08-03 11:23:44 AM

buzzcut73: Sounds like the company was trying to mark a box in a green 'certification' program by installing the rack and encouraging bicycling in other ways, but doesn't actually want people to use a bike, they just want to be able to say they meet whatever green standard they've paid consultants to meet.


Possibly not even any LEED-esque certification.  At least in my city, X number of bike rack spaces per load is a requirement for any public building constructed in the last 30 years, just like Y number of parking spaces.  Zoning/building code thing.  And this is in Kansas... I'd be shocked if Vancouver didn't have such a building code.

A lot of businesses half-ass that requirement as much as possible.
 
2013-08-03 11:24:19 AM

megarian: cowgirl toffee: Anyone else sign the "support turtle racing" petition at the bottom?

Yup.

Turtles make me happy. So do tortoises.


Turtle dance!

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2013-08-03 11:24:52 AM
Wish I could ride my bike to work. 30 Miles. Too far.
 
2013-08-03 11:31:11 AM
Bike rack? No room for it at my work. My bike is right behind me in my office.

The person that left that note/ticket is a freaking moron.
 
2013-08-03 11:31:40 AM
Like carbon credits it's just useless greenwashing for the company.
 
2013-08-03 11:34:17 AM

Pribar: how does one get a parking ticket on a bike, I could understand if the rider was physically present, but a ticket attached to my bike would end up in the dumpster, I mean do they have license plates for bikes there or something? how do they know who it belongs to?


My undergraduate school tried that with cyclists parking their bikes wherever the hell they wanted before class.

The university has a code of conduct for students which required students to honor the wishes the university. It worked out about as well as voluntary taxes.
 
2013-08-03 11:38:27 AM
This is my thirteenth season (April-October) of riding my bike to work. For the first eight years I would keep my bike in an empty cubical in the office. Nobody had a problem with this. Then we got a new Division Head who said it was "unprofessional" and stopped me from using cubicals for the bike. I found a spot in the storage space to lock it up on another floor. The bike only retails for $3200, so it ain't going on an outside bike rack (which we had, sorta, until the snowplow wiped it out). The Head is a dick basically, a domineering bully. He's hated by all, morale is in the pits, and I'm retiring as soon as the farm is ready to move into....
 
2013-08-03 11:42:06 AM

edmo: I wish this was some sort of rare screwball corporate/government moment. Wish.


Yes, that's why it's on the news, because it's really common; happens all the time. The news only prints stuff that occurs frequently.
 
2013-08-03 11:48:20 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: If I had the money, I'd get a huge forklift (electric!), smash into the rack and leave the lift there. A forklift is a professional tool...


So is whoever decided people couldn't park their bikes on a bike rack.
 
2013-08-03 11:56:26 AM
I ride to work most days. Im lucky, and I can store my bike in my office.
 
2013-08-03 12:02:25 PM

nytmare: edmo: I wish this was some sort of rare screwball corporate/government moment. Wish.

Yes, that's why it's on the news, because it's really common; happens all the time. The news only prints stuff that occurs frequently.


Well some person on the internet really isn't the news. However corporate contradictions like this are very common. Most are not known outside the doors of the company that issued them though. Only those of a special topic that appeals to a readership and for some reason are known outside a particular company get attention.

This one has the special 'carbon footprint' topic plus it's about a building management company rather than any person's particular employer. Thus nobody who works in the building for a company that rents there has to fear for his job by putting the landlord's stupid policies on display.
 
2013-08-03 12:05:25 PM

abhorrent1: Wish I could ride my bike to work. 30 Miles. Too far.


I just turned down a job because 30 miles was too far. In my car. OK I might reconsider.
 
2013-08-03 12:05:28 PM

EvilEgg: If they were so concerned they could perhaps provide a bike room. That way no one has to know that dirty hippies work there.


My company does almost exactly that--people who bike to work can park their bikes in a rack under one of the stairwells.  And since you need an RFID badge to get in the building (and one must pass a criminal background check to work here), there's practically no risk of theft.

That being said, I'm in Silicon Valley, where it's not just the hippies who bike to work.
 
2013-08-03 12:05:38 PM

mongbiohazard: MFAWG: There has to be more to this.

20 years of professional experience in the business world has taught me that no, there doesn't have to be any more to this. There *could* be more to it, but doesn't have to be.


Exactly. All it has to mean is that there is more than 1 upper management type. 1 who needs to meet certain environmental friendly concerns and one who doesn't like clutter.
 
2013-08-03 12:15:36 PM
Cyclist biatching about cyclists? We all win on that one!
 
2013-08-03 12:18:17 PM
This could also be the case of a company's right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing. It's frustratingly common. I have a lot of experience with this, and I even have a sorta-similar bicycle story.

My employer was fine with me parking my bicycle in my office. The building security guards were not. But the guards worked for the building owner, and we were tenants. But the guards couldn't go into the offices, so once the bike was in my office, it was fine, So if a guard caught me walking through the lobby with a bike, I'd catch hell.

You'd think this could be resolved, but a multinational corporation vs a sprawling billion dollar property management company? There was no appropriate level at which to address it.
 
2013-08-03 12:29:45 PM
Global warming alarmiss are all about image. To them, awareness is the goal. They often care less about their impact than the bogeymen they decry.
 
Ant
2013-08-03 12:32:11 PM
The word "professional" is abused. It now seems to mean "have a stick up your ass".
 
2013-08-03 12:37:34 PM
I work for a company who makes industrial electric vehicles. They've promoted the hell out of "being green" and all that stuff.

There's one rusty as fark bike rack in the yard, about as far from the time clock as you can get, and they close the gate to get there 30 minutes before anyone goes home.

Go green my ass.
 
2013-08-03 12:45:53 PM

Plant Rights Activist: the note is there because a fixed gear isn't a real mode of transportation it's an inefficient and cumbersome way of expressing your hipsterdom.


That isn't a fixie. It's a cruiser. Freewheel. Brakes. You know, stuff that comes in handy riding in city traffic. Sure, it's slow and heavy, but it is legitimate transportation. Or maybe you just don't know what a fixed gear is.
 
2013-08-03 12:51:00 PM
Typical American passive-aggression.
 
2013-08-03 12:53:07 PM

stirfrybry: Global warming alarmiss are all about image. To them, awareness is the goal. They often care less about their impact than the bogeymen they decry.


They're trying to raise awareness that we'll soon have to send out money to people in suits who produce nothing for no purpose.
 
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