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(Detroit Free Press)   Former Los Alamos physicist now makes his living running a science store that sells uranium and death rays. He's also a former Area 51 physicist who claims to have helped reverse engineer the propulsion system of an alien spacecraft   (freep.com) divider line 60
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2013-08-03 04:42:25 AM
I've listened to Bob Lazaar several times on C2C.  At the least he is entertaining.  At most he may be telling the truth.
 
2013-08-03 05:28:25 AM
Lazar is still around?  Sheesh, I thought he and John Lear were suicided years ago.

I've lost all respect for the NSA and the Trilateral Commission.
 
2013-08-03 06:05:06 AM
Huh, I had no idea Bob Lazar was behind United Nuclear. That's where I get all my Evil Genius supplies.
 
2013-08-03 08:52:50 AM
The guy knows his market.

Now is it just me or has he not aged in 20 years? Hmmmmm.
 
2013-08-03 09:10:34 AM

edmo: The guy knows his market.

Now is it just me or has he not aged in 20 years? Hmmmmm.


Don't let the sandy hair fool you, he's about as human as David Bowie.
 
2013-08-03 09:42:32 AM
I can't believe this guy still gets press after all this time. It was a weather balloon, for God's sake.
 
2013-08-03 10:37:38 AM
Oh, him.
 
2013-08-03 10:40:13 AM

TheCheese: Huh, I had no idea Bob Lazar was behind United Nuclear. That's where I get all my Evil Genius supplies.


Try Acme they have the best anvils. I buy them in bulk
 
2013-08-03 10:44:49 AM
Damn, I would have loved to go to a store like that when I was a kid.
 
2013-08-03 10:46:17 AM
I always thought Lazar would die of a cocaine overdose.
 
2013-08-03 10:53:40 AM
Actually, he's a really nice guy. His was the only store where I could still purchase KMn04, or potassium permanganate for you novices. I built a 1 stage liquid fueled rocket. System Solaires SS67B-1 back in the mid 90's, and back then United Nuclear was the only place I could find KMn04 (I've since sourced other suppliers - it's used to keeps Koi ponds clean - but haven't launched that thing in 15 years). After 9/11 you couldn't purchase squat, and most chemicals became illegal to ship across the Canadian border. I also stopped launching not just because of the cost, the permits, the hassles and the fact that I got a visit from the RCMP, but I just didn't have the heart for it anymore after 9/11. Too many nuts out there wanting information on how to build a liquid rocket for just plain sh*t head evil purposes.
One of the fallouts of that stupid era. The world got smaller and less fun because of those assholes.
 
2013-08-03 10:56:25 AM
Hey, a quick check show that System Solaire is still in business if any of you have a grand that's burning a hole in your pocket and you want a liquid fueled rocket.
 
2013-08-03 10:57:12 AM
i.qkme.me
 
2013-08-03 11:01:10 AM
He was never an Area 51 physicist. His only proof is a pay stub from a DOD contractor that happened to do work at the base. There's no proof he ever set foot there, and GoogleEarth put the kibosh on his "secret facility" on Papoose Lake.
 
2013-08-03 11:03:38 AM
He can also get you a good deal on prostitutes.
 
2013-08-03 11:04:01 AM

TheCheese: Huh, I had no idea Bob Lazar was behind United Nuclear. That's where I get all my Evil Genius supplies.


I wish I'd known about it while I was at Michigan State, it sounds like the store would be a cool place to visit
 
2013-08-03 11:04:42 AM
He's a physicist like John Titor is a time traveler.
 
2013-08-03 11:07:36 AM

Flab: He was never an Area 51 physicist. His only proof is a pay stub from a DOD contractor that happened to do work at the base. There's no proof he ever set foot there, and GoogleEarth put the kibosh on his "secret facility" on Papoose Lake.


Sure it did. Here's a condescending little pat on the head for ya!
cdn.list25.com
 
2013-08-03 11:10:54 AM
Bob. Lazar?
Way to make hay, dude.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 
2013-08-03 11:14:09 AM
I was distracted by the "Tiny Bikini Situation Needs To Be Addressed" headline at the bottom...
 
2013-08-03 11:16:27 AM

indarwinsshadow: Actually, he's a really nice guy. His was the only store where I could still purchase KMn04, or potassium permanganate for you novices. I built a 1 stage liquid fueled rocket. System Solaires SS67B-1 back in the mid 90's, and back then United Nuclear was the only place I could find KMn04 (I've since sourced other suppliers - it's used to keeps Koi ponds clean - but haven't launched that thing in 15 years). After 9/11 you couldn't purchase squat, and most chemicals became illegal to ship across the Canadian border. I also stopped launching not just because of the cost, the permits, the hassles and the fact that I got a visit from the RCMP, but I just didn't have the heart for it anymore after 9/11. Too many nuts out there wanting information on how to build a liquid rocket for just plain sh*t head evil purposes.
One of the fallouts of that stupid era. The world got smaller and less fun because of those assholes.


Well don't you worry tomorrow some Chinese dude is going to mix random chemicals and invent a new liquid rocket fuel from water and Betty Crocker cake mix. Because science is just a wishing game. If you try hard enough, anything is possible. Fairy tales can come true, it can happen to you, if you're young at heart.
 
2013-08-03 11:33:09 AM
archertv.files.wordpress.com
Wanted for questioning
 
2013-08-03 11:44:32 AM
"He once built a four-story Van de Graaff generator in his yard - a giant, shiny, high-voltage globe. "It was a particle accelerator," he said, matter-of-factly."

Wat
 
2013-08-03 11:50:23 AM
Quantum Apostrophe:
Well don't you worry tomorrow some Chinese dude is going to mix random chemicals and invent a new liquid rocket fuel from water and Betty Crocker cake mix.

I met some dude who made rocket fuel from grain ethanol and Gatorade.

/70 proof Gatorade is one of those so-bad-it's-good ideas
 
2013-08-03 11:50:51 AM

Whiskey Dickens: "He once built a four-story Van de Graaff generator in his yard - a giant, shiny, high-voltage globe. "It was a particle accelerator," he said, matter-of-factly."

Wat

t

ftfy

Yeah I thought he was dead years ago too.
See he's still full of shiat
 
2013-08-03 12:00:21 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: indarwinsshadow: Actually, he's a really nice guy. His was the only store where I could still purchase KMn04, or potassium permanganate for you novices. I built a 1 stage liquid fueled rocket. System Solaires SS67B-1 back in the mid 90's, and back then United Nuclear was the only place I could find KMn04 (I've since sourced other suppliers - it's used to keeps Koi ponds clean - but haven't launched that thing in 15 years). After 9/11 you couldn't purchase squat, and most chemicals became illegal to ship across the Canadian border. I also stopped launching not just because of the cost, the permits, the hassles and the fact that I got a visit from the RCMP, but I just didn't have the heart for it anymore after 9/11. Too many nuts out there wanting information on how to build a liquid rocket for just plain sh*t head evil purposes.
One of the fallouts of that stupid era. The world got smaller and less fun because of those assholes.

Well don't you worry tomorrow some Chinese dude is going to mix random chemicals and invent a new liquid rocket fuel from water and Betty Crocker cake mix. Because science is just a wishing game. If you try hard enough, anything is possible. Fairy tales can come true, it can happen to you, if you're young at heart.


Added to the ignore list. There's something wrong with you. You know that right? Whatever it is get help. You're f*cked in the head.
 
2013-08-03 12:04:47 PM

Whiskey Dickens: "He once built a four-story Van de Graaff generator in his yard - a giant, shiny, high-voltage globe. "It was a particle accelerator," he said, matter-of-factly."

Wat


Well...  Sort of.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_de_Graaff_generator

But not in the current sense.
 
2013-08-03 12:06:04 PM
One really interesting thing about United Nuclear - they sell everything you need to make your very own RDX/HDX, in bulk. Also the stock reagents for synthesizing a few other fun base stock explosives. Some of this stuff is otherwise hard to get for most people.

Given that it's hard to come up with a legit use for most people to buy some of the ingredients, I have to assume that's why he sells them.
 
2013-08-03 12:14:28 PM

indarwinsshadow: Quantum Apostrophe: indarwinsshadow: Actually, he's a really nice guy. His was the only store where I could still purchase KMn04, or potassium permanganate for you novices. I built a 1 stage liquid fueled rocket. System Solaires SS67B-1 back in the mid 90's, and back then United Nuclear was the only place I could find KMn04 (I've since sourced other suppliers - it's used to keeps Koi ponds clean - but haven't launched that thing in 15 years). After 9/11 you couldn't purchase squat, and most chemicals became illegal to ship across the Canadian border. I also stopped launching not just because of the cost, the permits, the hassles and the fact that I got a visit from the RCMP, but I just didn't have the heart for it anymore after 9/11. Too many nuts out there wanting information on how to build a liquid rocket for just plain sh*t head evil purposes.
One of the fallouts of that stupid era. The world got smaller and less fun because of those assholes.

Well don't you worry tomorrow some Chinese dude is going to mix random chemicals and invent a new liquid rocket fuel from water and Betty Crocker cake mix. Because science is just a wishing game. If you try hard enough, anything is possible. Fairy tales can come true, it can happen to you, if you're young at heart.

Added to the ignore list. There's something wrong with you. You know that right? Whatever it is get help. You're f*cked in the head.


If you don't launch a Koi pond every three years, it gets a nasty build-up that is toxic to most species.  You have to get it high enough into the atmosphere that cosmic rays can sterilize it. That means penetrating the Bell Layer that the government installed to restrict communication with extraterrestrial locations.

Plus, the fish really dig the ride.
 
2013-08-03 12:16:51 PM
Former Los Alamos employee was obviously shiatcanned for mental health reasons.

/nice to see a high functioning nutter running his own business though.
 
2013-08-03 12:24:08 PM

FunkOut: Damn, I would have loved to go to a store like that when I was a kid.


I'd love to go to a store like that now!
 
2013-08-03 12:25:57 PM

indarwinsshadow: Quantum Apostrophe: Well don't you worry tomorrow some Chinese dude is going to mix random chemicals and invent a new liquid rocket fuel from water and Betty Crocker cake mix. Because science is just a wishing game. If you try hard enough, anything is possible. Fairy tales can come true, it can happen to you, if you're young at heart.

Added to the ignore list. There's something wrong with you. You know that right? Whatever it is get help. You're f*cked in the head.


A candid photo of QA from a few years ago...

1-media-cdn.foolz.us
 
2013-08-03 12:42:25 PM

Flab: He was never an Area 51 physicist. His only proof is a pay stub from a DOD contractor that happened to do work at the base. There's no proof he ever set foot there, and GoogleEarth put the kibosh on his "secret facility" on Papoose Lake.


Well, if you had told me that there was a dude working for a contractor that happened to work for the NSA that knew huge National secrets, I would have doubted that, too.
 
2013-08-03 12:42:48 PM
Bob Lazar is a hack, still trying to hang onto his 15 minutes of fame in the early 90's.

And what's the BS in the article about Uranium decay radiation not being harmful?  While your body can deal with small amounts of radiation (we get exposed to background stuff all the time), depending on the type, anyone who thinks it's "okay" to handle radioactive ore like that either isn't aware, or doesn't care about handling those materials safely.  This guy has almost no formal training in anything "physics," and I hate it when people call him a "physicist" almost as bad as I hate left-lane drivers on the hwy.  Unnnngggh...
 
2013-08-03 12:47:29 PM

Stone Meadow: indarwinsshadow: Quantum Apostrophe: Well don't you worry tomorrow some Chinese dude is going to mix random chemicals and invent a new liquid rocket fuel from water and Betty Crocker cake mix. Because science is just a wishing game. If you try hard enough, anything is possible. Fairy tales can come true, it can happen to you, if you're young at heart.

Added to the ignore list. There's something wrong with you. You know that right? Whatever it is get help. You're f*cked in the head.

A candid photo of QA from a few years ago...

[1-media-cdn.foolz.us image 350x377]


Hey, look, it's the liar.
 
2013-08-03 12:50:40 PM
Plus, the fish really dig the ride.
I LOL'd

I really miss my chemistry set and other science sets I had when I was a kid. In the Philly area the place to go was Edmund Scientific in Barrington NJ. It was geek *heaven*. Chemistry stuff, optics, electronics, surplus, etc. It's gone now, moved to NY and became a conventional mail order place, leaving a hole in many east coast geeks hearts.

When the retirement farm is up and running, I will recreate the magic. I'll have a nice little chemistry/biology lab, with all the gizmos. microscopes, etc. And a nice little observatory in the field, with a nice reflector telescope, at least eight inches. And an electronics workshop, an' a machine shop, an' (you get the idea, a regular Swift Enterprises)... Only a couple miles away from my place is Mt. Beryl, where they mined Aquamarine, AND, it has uranium ore (Rutherfordite) laying around, so I can gather up enough Uranium for my *needs*.

Back to childhood, at least until Homeland Security shows up and tears the place apart....
 
2013-08-03 12:59:34 PM
www.dangerouslaboratories.org
 
2013-08-03 01:11:51 PM

mudpants: [www.dangerouslaboratories.org image 350x450]


Also a Michigander.
 
2013-08-03 01:18:33 PM

Flab: and GoogleEarth put the kibosh on his "secret facility" on Papoose Lake.


I don't know anything about that facility, but I will point out that Google Earth sometimes rejects your reality and substitutes its own.
 
2013-08-03 01:19:04 PM
A few years ago I tracked Lazar down to United Nuclear. While doing the tracking I thought I'd come up empty but when I found him I got a good chuckle. They do business out of a cute little storefront, not at all what I expected.

/csb
 
2013-08-03 01:27:10 PM
There's repeat and then there's ancient history.

Guess which one this is?
 
2013-08-03 01:28:23 PM

Whiskey Dickens: "He once built a four-story Van de Graaff generator in his yard - a giant, shiny, high-voltage globe. "It was a particle accelerator," he said, matter-of-factly."

Wat


The standard science-fair models produce a high voltage which arcs away into the surrounding air.

If you instead insulate the electrode, you can indeed use that potential difference as a particle accelerator.
 
2013-08-03 01:34:17 PM

Nattering Nabob: Flab: He was never an Area 51 physicist. His only proof is a pay stub from a DOD contractor that happened to do work at the base. There's no proof he ever set foot there, and GoogleEarth put the kibosh on his "secret facility" on Papoose Lake.

Well, if you had told me that there was a dude working for a contractor that happened to work for the NSA that knew huge National secrets, I would have doubted that, too.


The difference between Snowden and Lazar is that Lazar is free to go in the US.

That should tell you a lot about the seriousness of his claims.
 
2013-08-03 04:02:49 PM

golden goat: Bob Lazar is a hack, still trying to hang onto his 15 minutes of fame in the early 90's.


Well, yeah. ( I still hope he's a guest on Art Bell's new show, whenever that starts up...for the lulz)
 
2013-08-03 04:32:54 PM

Flab: The difference between Snowden and Lazar is that Lazar is free to go in the US.

That should tell you a lot about the seriousness of his claims.


It says something about the era in which they each initially made their claims as well.

/Not saying Lazar isn't a nutcase
 
2013-08-03 04:35:41 PM

Ivo Shandor: Whiskey Dickens: "He once built a four-story Van de Graaff generator in his yard - a giant, shiny, high-voltage globe. "It was a particle accelerator," he said, matter-of-factly."

Wat

The standard science-fair models produce a high voltage which arcs away into the surrounding air.

If you instead insulate the electrode, you can indeed use that potential difference as a particle accelerator.


Bah.  This used to be a great country.  We built the Hoover dam, and we believed in science and engineering,  and we went to the moon.  And virtually every family in America had particle accelerators in their living rooms -- hell, lots of people had them in their bedrooms.  And they were so common and ubiquitous that people powered them up just  FOR ENTERTAINMENT.  I've still got one.
 
2013-08-03 05:30:10 PM

Sliding Carp: And they were so common and ubiquitous that people powered them up just FOR ENTERTAINMENT. I've still got one.


I got one in the living room! There's another one permanently attached to my first Mac, too...

I'm building a Molecular Accelerator in the garage with those parts from United Nuclear. And the hardware store.

/ping-pong balls are made of molecules
 
2013-08-03 07:35:05 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Stone Meadow: indarwinsshadow: Quantum Apostrophe: Well don't you worry tomorrow some Chinese dude is going to mix random chemicals and invent a new liquid rocket fuel from water and Betty Crocker cake mix. Because science is just a wishing game. If you try hard enough, anything is possible. Fairy tales can come true, it can happen to you, if you're young at heart.

Added to the ignore list. There's something wrong with you. You know that right? Whatever it is get help. You're f*cked in the head.

A candid photo of QA from a few years ago...

[1-media-cdn.foolz.us image 350x377]

Hey, look, it's the liar.


LOL...that didn't take long. Sorry I was off the 'tubes for a few hours running errands.

For those of you who may have scratched your head wondering what that was all about, last month in another thread QA made the claim, "All I say is that 3D printers aren't replicators, no one's going to print a house, and that generally they will appeal to such a small market that they're a niche. And the end product is 99% of the time dollar store stuff." Highlighting the clause in the middle, I said "Oops" and linked to a story about this guy's work.

QA flipped out, saying that it hadn't yet been done (they build their first house this month...in Holland IIRC); that the printed house didn't include the wiring and plumbing (or some such objection), and in short that it wasn't a real printed house, even though its made with a huge 3-axis 3d "concrete" printer.

We went back and forth a few times. I linked to a 3d printed race car project. He complained it was only the tub and not the whole car. I linked to a NASA 3d printed rocket engine...he complained it was only the injector and not the whole engine, blah, blah, finishing off with this rant:

"You are a liar. And if we ever meet in person I'd have no problem saying it to your ugly face.

LIAR. Delusional, dishonest, stupid, LIAR.

Menteur, Lügner, лгун, in any language. Lies, deception, crap, hype, more lies are all I expect from you 3D nutcases.

I just wish you'd stop your crap so other people don't believe your torrent of raw sewage of lies
."

By the way, QA, that race car project? Yeah, they've added sintered metal 3d printed uprights at all four corners. You know, the critical parts that connect the tires and wheels to the suspension and tub.

And the NASA project? Yeah, the test has successfully completed and NASA are now going to 3d print the ENTIRE F-1b engine, reducing its original parts count from 5600 pieces to just 40, and upping its thrust from 1.5 mlbf to 1.8 mlbf.

Yeah, just dime store junk.
 
2013-08-03 07:50:59 PM
Stone Meadow:

Yeah, they've added sintered metal 3d printed uprights at all four corners.

Man, I feel sketchy enough racing on steel forged uprights, which I bend on a regular basis.  Sintered?  That gives me the heebie-jeebies.
 
2013-08-03 08:15:12 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: indarwinsshadow: Actually, he's a really nice guy. His was the only store where I could still purchase KMn04, or potassium permanganate for you novices. I built a 1 stage liquid fueled rocket. System Solaires SS67B-1 back in the mid 90's, and back then United Nuclear was the only place I could find KMn04 (I've since sourced other suppliers - it's used to keeps Koi ponds clean - but haven't launched that thing in 15 years). After 9/11 you couldn't purchase squat, and most chemicals became illegal to ship across the Canadian border. I also stopped launching not just because of the cost, the permits, the hassles and the fact that I got a visit from the RCMP, but I just didn't have the heart for it anymore after 9/11. Too many nuts out there wanting information on how to build a liquid rocket for just plain sh*t head evil purposes.
One of the fallouts of that stupid era. The world got smaller and less fun because of those assholes.

Well don't you worry tomorrow some Chinese dude is going to mix random chemicals and invent a new liquid rocket fuel from water and Betty Crocker cake mix. Because science is just a wishing game. If you try hard enough, anything is possible. Fairy tales can come true, it can happen to you, if you're young at heart. DERP!


FTFY. Why don't you please go back to living under the 3D Printer thread bridge.
 
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