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(AL.com)   For the record, if you're running for office and you are divorced, you shouldn't claim in your campaign ads that you're a family man   (blog.al.com) divider line 16
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2013-08-03 12:16:14 AM
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given how he is defending the inference that he is currently married i'd say that portraying himself as married was the intent.

that said the police in the ad are a bigger problem. sure looks like a violation of department policy if not against the law.
2013-08-03 12:07:19 AM
2 votes:
Stimpson's remarks stem from a political advertisement that shows Jones' roles in the past that include a U.S. Navy veteran, Mobile County commissioner, and mayor. It also indicates he's been a father, grandfather and husband.

"Been". Past tense. Nothing to see here.


"I take offense to anyone who tries to bring my family and my father's character into this campaign,"

Um, hate to break it to you sunshine, but the person who brought your family into this campaign was your father.
2013-08-02 11:26:43 PM
2 votes:
Worked for Newt Gingrich.
2013-08-02 09:49:34 PM
2 votes:
Depends on what the divorce was about and what he does with his kids...

Let's see, one adult child that is strongly supportive of her father, so I guess he did right by that part. No details in the article about the divorce so can't make any judgement there at this point. But there are lots of valid reasons for divorce that don't automatically make him a bad husband. If the wife asked for the divorce, then it would be more supportive of him to grant it rather than forcing her to remain married against her will.
2013-08-02 09:23:26 PM
2 votes:
Why not? Does divorce suddenly make you a bad father? Is it better for the children to grow up in a house where their parents fight and argue all the time?
2013-08-03 09:34:01 AM
1 votes:

Emposter: Yeah...gotta agree.  And, on top of that, Bashar seems to be trying to say that marriages that stick together DON'T have "moments in which you behaved in a less than admirable fashion" or "did something wrong," which is not only ridiculous, but implies that you can't have good parents unless you live in a a 60's television show where everyone is always smiling and it never rains.


That's a different issue entirely though. With divorce, there's a clear legal record that something went terribly wrong along the way. I stated it poorly, since there are of course situations where one spouse is clearly innocent and the other is clearly at fault, but generally speaking "mistakes were made" along the way by everyone involved. For those people, they signed up for a lifelong commitment, screwed it up, and dissolved it, in the same way that if I took out a life-long mortgage and defaulted on it halfway through. I may have had valid reasons for defaulting on the loan, but my credit score is still going to take a beating, much in the same way that divorce is going to negatively impact your character, uh, score.
2013-08-03 09:13:13 AM
1 votes:
I do not have any kids but I know enough single fathers who do an excellent job; some are de facto mothers and/or the "father" to a kid that isn't theirs but is a half-sibling to their kid.  So put me in the group of divorced doesn't necessarily mean you are a bad "family man".
2013-08-03 08:42:08 AM
1 votes:
Don't want your family life questioned? Don't put 'em front and center in your campaign.
2013-08-03 06:39:58 AM
1 votes:

Tom_Slick: Why not? Does divorce suddenly make you a bad father? Is it better for the children to grow up in a house where their parents fight and argue all the time?


Came to say this.  On the other hand, conservatives have changed the meaning of the word "family" to "bigot."  Calling yourself a "family" anything is just asking for trouble these days.  Maybe go with "good parent" or something.  I don't think the right has farked up the meaning of "parent" yet.

tbeatty: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: It's fairly true, I'll admit.

As a child of divorce myself, it's pretty unlikely that you can proclaim yourself a family man in the aftermath. Unless you as a father or mother divorced amicably and with no hard feelings because you are Buddhist monks, there were moments in which you behaved in a less than admirable fashion. Somebody did something wrong, somebody may or may not have retaliated, and voila, divorce.

The act of divorce in and of itself is a condemnation of your character.

You're an idiot.  The act of divorce can be a testament to good character.  To wit, if Hillary (Hema) had divorced Bill (Weiner) over infidelity, it is not her character that is in question.   If a spouse seeks a divorce to stop abuse, that does not speak poorly of them.  Nor are single moms not a "family person" as subby claims.  Divorce in and of itself is a civil proceeding.  the acts that precipitate it or demand it, are not as simple as "everyone's bad."  Sorry if that was your experience as it appears you have shiatty parents if you believe they are both equally at fault and both took actions that destroyed their character.  There are women that die at the hands of their husbands literally because there are people like you that condemn their character for simply wanting to stay alive.


Yeah...gotta agree.  And, on top of that, Bashar seems to be trying to say that marriages that stick together DON'T have "moments in which you behaved in a less than admirable fashion" or "did something wrong," which is not only ridiculous, but implies that you can't have good parents unless you live in a a 60's television show where everyone is always smiling and it never rains.
2013-08-03 04:54:38 AM
1 votes:

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: It's fairly true, I'll admit.

As a child of divorce myself, it's pretty unlikely that you can proclaim yourself a family man in the aftermath. Unless you as a father or mother divorced amicably and with no hard feelings because you are Buddhist monks, there were moments in which you behaved in a less than admirable fashion. Somebody did something wrong, somebody may or may not have retaliated, and voila, divorce.

The act of divorce in and of itself is a condemnation of your character.


Sounds like you've got some issues to work out.
2013-08-03 02:56:07 AM
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Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: It's fairly true, I'll admit.

As a child of divorce myself, it's pretty unlikely that you can proclaim yourself a family man in the aftermath. Unless you as a father or mother divorced amicably and with no hard feelings because you are Buddhist monks, there were moments in which you behaved in a less than admirable fashion. Somebody did something wrong, somebody may or may not have retaliated, and voila, divorce.

The act of divorce in and of itself is a condemnation of your character.


My parents.

My father, for various reasons, was not a good husband in the 1970's, so my mother divorced him. Despite a couple bad months, they maintained a reasonably good relationship which continues to this day (35 years later). Neither of them have condemnable characters. Of course, neither of them would be good politicians--but for reasons unrelated to their divorce.
2013-08-03 12:15:15 AM
1 votes:
Presumably he still has a family even if he is divorced.
2013-08-03 12:02:37 AM
1 votes:
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2013-08-02 11:40:02 PM
1 votes:
Well, subby, it depends on why the man in question got divorced.

If he got divorced because he and his wife over many years of marriage simply decided that they had grown apart as individuals, separated amicably, and maintained a good post-dissolution relationship for the sake of their children; then he's still a "family man" despite being divorced and can certainly say that in his political ads.

If he told his cancer-stricken third wife in her hospital bed that he was leaving her for wife number four--with more money and tumor-free breasts--then that's a bit different, isn't it?
2013-08-02 11:16:03 PM
1 votes:
People should remain eternally locked in loveless, soul-crushing marriages for eternity. It's what God would have wanted.
2013-08-02 11:15:41 PM
1 votes:
Subby, I think you're confusing "family man" with what the Republicans call "family values".  A divorced man can very well be a family man, but would have committed some sort of sin in the code of "family values".  Family values = moral position.
 
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