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2013-08-02 12:21:52 PM
If they want the place to fill up, they should hire some real Parisians to live there and be rude to everyone.
 
2013-08-02 12:27:55 PM
If you go to Paris during the Parisians holiday you'll also find no Parisians.

Good time to really see the city.
 
2013-08-02 12:39:35 PM
Well, China is certainly onboard with propping up their economy with construction projects.  I wonder how long they can keep building cities that no one lives in though.
 
2013-08-02 01:42:16 PM
Reminds me of the New South China Mall (youtube, sfw), which has been almost completely empty since it was built in 2005. There is lots of online video about it and it looks like it would make a great location for paintball or for a post-apocalyptic/zombie movie.
 
2013-08-02 02:00:02 PM
This thread again?
 
2013-08-02 02:05:59 PM
Haven't we had this for a while now?

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2013-08-02 02:07:43 PM
So it doesn't stink of piss?
Oh wait, it's in China...
 
2013-08-02 02:10:42 PM
So people actually wear deodorant there?
 
2013-08-02 02:10:50 PM
"According to Chinese media, Tianducheng can hold up to 10 million, but only, at most, 2000 people live there"

That kind of privacy alone should be reason enough to move there.
 
2013-08-02 02:11:32 PM
If you want a Paris without Parisians just go in July.

They all flee south for the whole month as the great Sino-American invasion takes over the city.
 
2013-08-02 02:11:51 PM
Huh.  Imagine that.  Chinese people not interested in going to a place that mimics somewhere else in the world.

I forgot who said it, but there was a comedian that talked about the Chinese and the fact that when they move to a new city in foreign country, they say "No" and just build China there.  Makes a lot of sense.
 
2013-08-02 02:13:44 PM
Link is going to wrong story.


/don't drink the Coke
 
2013-08-02 02:14:50 PM

AlwaysRightBoy: If you go to Paris during the Parisians holiday you'll also find no Parisians.

Good time to really see the city.


Ah, beat me to it.

I beg to differ however. What you get in July is a Paris full of Americans, Brits and Asians. Good luck getting some quiet time in any museum.

For my money April is the time to see what Paris is really like. Or September. The weather can be dicey, but then that's always the case.
 
2013-08-02 02:27:31 PM
Listen, you'll be okay in Paris if you learn to say things lik Bonjour, Au Revour, oui, non, s'il vou plais and other stuff. Plus learn a little about the Metro before you go there to use it.

Besides, the French women are hot. Why would you want to see a Paris without the French women?
 
2013-08-02 02:30:09 PM

skinink: Listen, you'll be okay in Paris if you learn to say things lik Bonjour, Au Revour, oui, non, s'il vou plais and other stuff. Plus learn a little about the Metro before you go there to use it.

Besides, the French women are hot. Why would you want to see a Paris without the French women?


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Melissa agrees
 
2013-08-02 02:33:12 PM

uncleacid: So people actually wear deodorant there?


No, for whatever reason Chinese people don't use deodorant either.  And unlike the Parisians, they don't try to cover up the odor with perfume either.
 
2013-08-02 02:33:28 PM
The pictures look kinday creepy to me.  I think it's because the scale is off.  Looks like the set of a movie where they are going to use camera tricks so they can level Paris at the end of the second act.
 
2013-08-02 02:36:02 PM

skinink: Why would you want to see a Paris without the French women?


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2013-08-02 02:38:12 PM

skinink: Listen, you'll be okay in Paris if you learn to say things lik Bonjour, Au Revour, oui, non, s'il vou plais and other stuff. Plus learn a little about the Metro before you go there to use it.

Besides, the French women are hot. Why would you want to see a Paris without the French women?


Start by saying
"Desolez, mais je parle pas francais. Parlez-vous anglais?"   ie  "I"m sorry, but I don't speak French. Do you speak English?"

Just be humble, and Parisians will be fine with you.  The people everywhere else will be extremely polite, but the farther out in the sticks you go, the less likely it is that they will be instantly friendly the way Americans are.
 
2013-08-02 02:39:00 PM
Hmm so that's what a person from Paris is called.  I guess thats why they got all upset with me when i kept calling them croysents.
 
2013-08-02 02:40:14 PM

gilgigamesh: museum


True about the tourists. I've also been in the middle of winter (from a ski trip) and the spring, both very nice. It's a lot quieter in the winter.
 
2013-08-02 02:43:28 PM
What I found is that the French like American visitors; they hate American tourists.
 
TWX
2013-08-02 02:52:52 PM
Did they manage to capture the dirty, smelly, decrepit nature of the city and its infrastructure?

/been to Paris
//the French can have it
 
2013-08-02 02:58:01 PM
BTW, my favorite Paris tourist trap was the catacombs. Worth the tiny entrance fee though I got claustophobic on the way up the exit stairways. Very very little space in that stone spiral staircase.
 
2013-08-02 03:05:22 PM
At this time of year, the real Paris gets a bit short of Parisians.  Like in most of Europe, air conditioning never really caught on, so the locals head south for holiday in the summer.  I took a week-end trip there when I was in Germany during a severe heatwave in August 2003 when many of the locals were dying of heatstroke.  The town was deserted - but still filthy, of course.
 
2013-08-02 03:06:16 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the Chinese considerably to be ruder than the French? I know their tourists are considered worse than Germans, which takes some doing. Of course, we're still No. 1. USA! USA! USA!
 
2013-08-02 03:09:31 PM

skinink: Listen, you'll be okay in Paris if you learn to say things lik Bonjour, Au Revour, oui, non, s'il vou plais and other stuff. Plus learn a little about the Metro before you go there to use it.

Besides, the French women are hot. Why would you want to see a Paris without the French women?


Because they don't shave their pits nor bathe regularly.
 
2013-08-02 03:10:38 PM
 
2013-08-02 03:14:05 PM

FrancoFile: skinink: Listen, you'll be okay in Paris if you learn to say things lik Bonjour, Au Revour, oui, non, s'il vou plais and other stuff. Plus learn a little about the Metro before you go there to use it.

Besides, the French women are hot. Why would you want to see a Paris without the French women?

Start by saying
"Desolez, mais je parle pas francais. Parlez-vous anglais?"   ie  "I"m sorry, but I don't speak French. Do you speak English?"

Just be humble, and Parisians will be fine with you.  The people everywhere else will be extremely polite, but the farther out in the sticks you go, the less likely it is that they will be instantly friendly the way Americans are.


So it's true. They're totally dropping the superfluous "ne"?
 
2013-08-02 03:17:26 PM

FrancoFile: "Desolez, mais je ne parle pas francais. Parlez-vous anglais?"   ie  "I"m sorry, but I don't speak French. Do you speak English?"

Just be humble, and Parisians will be fine with you.  The people everywhere else will be extremely polite, but the farther out in the sticks you go, the less likely it is that they will be instantly friendly the way Americans are.


I don't know. Paris is a big city, and like most big cities people seem somewhat cold compared to country folk. But then the farther you get from the city, the less likely it is people speak English.

Many Parisians, if not most, speak English. I've found they usually try and move the conversation along by speaking to me in English rather than suffer through listening to my broke-ass French.
 
2013-08-02 03:19:54 PM

ronaprhys: Because they don't shave their pits nor bathe regularly.


Spoken like someone who has never set foot in Paris.

It is a city of models. Seriously. Women there are astonishingly hot.
 
2013-08-02 03:21:02 PM

TWX: Did they manage to capture the dirty, smelly, decrepit nature of the city and its infrastructure?

/been to Paris
//the French can have it


You must have had a bad experience or something.  I loved it there.  Of course, I was there on business.  If you're 1/8 of a mile within any major tourist spot, it's a different world.

And I think a lot of people mistake the Parisians keeping to themselves as rudeness.  Even on a packed metro during the morning and afternoon rush, *no one* stared at anyone else or spontaneously talked to strangers.  Yet if you need to get by someone to get on or off the train, *everyone* gave a polite "pardon".

That isn't to say they are not bold when irritated - I think the rudest thing I saw was when I was sitting in a pub and some older man with a cane sits down outside and after a minute or two of no service, he starts beating on the window.  The other patrons barely gave it notice or became mildly amused. The waiters just laughed it off, one walked out and gave a quick and polite apology and took the guys order.  Here in the US, it would be horribly rude to beat on the glass like that (especially after little more than a minute) but such an act would likely generate visible and swift and harsh retaliation from employees and patrons alike.  Personally, I think they are much more easy going than we are.
 
2013-08-02 03:27:27 PM

FrancoFile: skinink: Listen, you'll be okay in Paris if you learn to say things lik Bonjour, Au Revour, oui, non, s'il vou plais and other stuff. Plus learn a little about the Metro before you go there to use it.

Besides, the French women are hot. Why would you want to see a Paris without the French women?

Start by saying
"Desolez, mais je parle pas francais. Parlez-vous anglais?"   ie  "I"m sorry, but I don't speak French. Do you speak English?"

Just be humble, and Parisians will be fine with you.  The people everywhere else will be extremely polite, but the farther out in the sticks you go, the less likely it is that they will be instantly friendly the way Americans are.


I was pretty deep in the sticks in the Dordogne, and found the people there to be much friendlier than Parisians.
 
2013-08-02 03:27:30 PM

jigger: FrancoFile: skinink: Listen, you'll be okay in Paris if you learn to say things lik Bonjour, Au Revour, oui, non, s'il vou plais and other stuff. Plus learn a little about the Metro before you go there to use it.

Besides, the French women are hot. Why would you want to see a Paris without the French women?

Start by saying
"Desolez, mais je parle pas francais. Parlez-vous anglais?"   ie  "I"m sorry, but I don't speak French. Do you speak English?"

Just be humble, and Parisians will be fine with you.  The people everywhere else will be extremely polite, but the farther out in the sticks you go, the less likely it is that they will be instantly friendly the way Americans are.

So it's true. They're totally dropping the superfluous "ne"?



Doh!  It gets halfway-elided when spoken, and I was transcribing spoken French in my mind.

/learned by immersion.
//can write just to the level of informal emails
///read & speak  fluently.
 
2013-08-02 03:28:14 PM
It's August. There are no Parisians in the real Paris for 29 more days.
 
2013-08-02 03:31:44 PM

FrancoFile: jigger: FrancoFile: skinink: Listen, you'll be okay in Paris if you learn to say things lik Bonjour, Au Revour, oui, non, s'il vou plais and other stuff. Plus learn a little about the Metro before you go there to use it.

Besides, the French women are hot. Why would you want to see a Paris without the French women?

Start by saying
"Desolez, mais je parle pas francais. Parlez-vous anglais?"   ie  "I"m sorry, but I don't speak French. Do you speak English?"

Just be humble, and Parisians will be fine with you.  The people everywhere else will be extremely polite, but the farther out in the sticks you go, the less likely it is that they will be instantly friendly the way Americans are.

So it's true. They're totally dropping the superfluous "ne"?


Doh!  It gets halfway-elided when spoken, and I was transcribing spoken French in my mind.

/learned by immersion.
//can write just to the level of informal emails
///read & speak  fluently.


Well, I've heard that people are dropping it entirely.

Instead of something like  jen' sais pas they'll just says je sais pas, which is better to me, because the ne is entirely unnecessary.
 
2013-08-02 03:32:13 PM
A horde of chinese is far worse than a city full of french folks.  You fail subby.
 
2013-08-02 03:38:47 PM

JerkyMeat: A horde of chinese is far worse than a city full of french folks. You fail subby.


But which smells worse?
 
2013-08-02 03:43:19 PM

jigger: FrancoFile: jigger: FrancoFile: skinink: Listen, you'll be okay in Paris if you learn to say things lik Bonjour, Au Revour, oui, non, s'il vou plais and other stuff. Plus learn a little about the Metro before you go there to use it.

Besides, the French women are hot. Why would you want to see a Paris without the French women?

Start by saying
"Desolez, mais je parle pas francais. Parlez-vous anglais?"   ie  "I"m sorry, but I don't speak French. Do you speak English?"

Just be humble, and Parisians will be fine with you.  The people everywhere else will be extremely polite, but the farther out in the sticks you go, the less likely it is that they will be instantly friendly the way Americans are.

So it's true. They're totally dropping the superfluous "ne"?


Doh!  It gets halfway-elided when spoken, and I was transcribing spoken French in my mind.

/learned by immersion.
//can write just to the level of informal emails
///read & speak  fluently.

Well, I've heard that people are dropping it entirely.

Instead of something like  jen' sais pas they'll just says je sais pas, which is better to me, because the ne is entirely unnecessary.


or with even one less syllable, with j'sais pas
 
2013-08-02 03:50:08 PM

All2morrowsparTs: What I found is that the French like American visitors; they hate American tourists.


I once went with my in-laws. My mother-in-law (ex now) insisted on wearing an American flag windbreaker every damned day (right after 9/11). That woman is the epitome of the Ugly American and I learned quickly that if I wanted good food, not to dine with her.
 
2013-08-02 03:54:40 PM
Well, so much for the Yellow Menace. I guess they don't even want Europe to come to them nowadays.

But here's what you do to fix this:

Build some McDo restaurants, just like the fancy ones they have in Paris, convert some of the apartment blocks into casinos and advertise the Hell out of it in the US. Americans have no objection whatsoever to visiting fake cities (just look at the cheaper, tawdrier version in Las Vegas, or the more crowded version in Disney World). As long as it is cheap, clean, safe, and the staff speak good English, build it. They will come.

As I always sing to myself when I think of Paris:

I love Paris in the Springtime
I love Paris in the Fall
But I love Paris best in August
(There aren't any Parisians there in August
No, not August!)
I love Paris in the Summer
And in the Winter too
But I love Paris best in August
I love Paris without you!


The Chinese have really hit on something. Why outsource everything? There's no need as long as you have cheap labour. In-source all the tourist sites of the world, and screw the rude, whinging bastards!

So what if it looks like Monument Beach in that episode of Futurama? At least you don't have to worry about too many whales.

Well, not literal whales. If you throw open New Paris to Americans or even Chinese tourists, the beaches will be covered in Great White Land Whales.

Which would either be Captain Ahab's Heaven or his Hell, depending.
 
2013-08-02 03:56:59 PM

dumbobruni: or with even one less syllable, with j'sais pas


Not sure how that's really one syllable because you have to kind of put something between the j and s to distinguish them. There's no good way to say js as a part of a larger syllable. Like the word Tajs (plural of taj). You kind of have to put a ə between the j and s.

Polish (and other slavic languages) kills me with this. You've got words with consonants all crammed together, but sometimes you can't really pronounce them properly without putting a little something in between.

Like the word wpływ. You have to say it veh-pwiv. Two syllables even though it's officially one.
 
2013-08-02 04:04:22 PM

jigger: dumbobruni: or with even one less syllable, with j'sais pas

Not sure how that's really one syllable because you have to kind of put something between the j and s to distinguish them. There's no good way to say js as a part of a larger syllable. Like the word Tajs (plural of taj). You kind of have to put a ə between the j and s.

Polish (and other slavic languages) kills me with this. You've got words with consonants all crammed together, but sometimes you can't really pronounce them properly without putting a little something in between.

Like the word wpływ. You have to say it veh-pwiv. Two syllables even though it's officially one.


its argot. the phrase is also spelled as "chez pas".
 
2013-08-02 04:13:58 PM

skinink: Listen, you'll be okay in Paris if you learn to say things lik Bonjour, Au Revour, oui, non, s'il vou plais and other stuff. Plus learn a little about the Metro before you go there to use it.

Besides, the French women are hot. Why would you want to see a Paris without the French women?


Is this where are encouraged to post hot French women?

30.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-08-02 04:19:13 PM
Finally, a Paris with no Parisians

I prefer the term Parisites.
 
2013-08-02 04:23:49 PM

FrancoFile: but the farther out in the sticks you go, the less likely it is that they will be instantly friendly the way Americans are.


Maybe that explains why the French guy I met in New Caledonia was such a dick.
 
2013-08-02 04:24:13 PM
Are you kidding? Coming from a country where most people are genuinely friendly, it's refreshing to go to a city where the default stance is fark off.

A couple of words of butchered French and a "je suis Neo Zealandais" gets you pretty far in Paris. Further in the south where there are more rugby fans.
 
2013-08-02 04:27:03 PM

blatz514: skinink: Listen, you'll be okay in Paris if you learn to say things lik Bonjour, Au Revour, oui, non, s'il vou plais and other stuff. Plus learn a little about the Metro before you go there to use it.

Besides, the French women are hot. Why would you want to see a Paris without the French women?

Is this where are encouraged to post hot French women?

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What a good idea.

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2013-08-02 04:46:34 PM

dumbobruni: its argot. the phrase is also spelled as "chez pas".


Ah, I see.
 
2013-08-02 04:49:12 PM
Y'know who else built a miniature Paris?
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