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(Think Progress)   Uninsured conservative blogger in hospital with liver failure. Liberal and conservative bloggers band together to raise money for his medical bills. Good job guys, now just 45 million more to go   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 441
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2013-08-01 11:51:32 PM
Imagine if his health care were covered by a single-payer entity. He wouldn't have to beg like some homeless person.

That would be nice, right?
 
2013-08-02 12:01:37 AM
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2013-08-02 12:22:29 AM
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2013-08-02 01:57:36 AM
How about we all start sending him his own quotes about Roger Ebert?

http://www.sarawakreport.org/2011/07/taib-blogger-insults-islam/
 
2013-08-02 02:08:02 AM
After reading what this asshole said about cancer-stricken Roger Ebert three years ago, I couldn't care less about his suffering.

RedState blogger Howe mocks Roger Ebert's cancer, adds, "So f**k him"

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2010/05/08/redstate-blogger-howe-mocks-r o ger-eberts-cancer/164397

[Link is posted separately because for some reason, I can't post it using HTML]

Karma's a biatch.
 
2013-08-02 02:11:59 AM

Lorelle: After reading what this asshole said about cancer-stricken Roger Ebert three years ago, I couldn't care less about his suffering.

RedState blogger Howe mocks Roger Ebert's cancer, adds, "So f**k him"

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2010/05/08/redstate-blogger-howe-mocks-r o ger-eberts-cancer/164397

[Link is posted separately because for some reason, I can't post it using HTML]

Karma's a biatch.



 This exactly.  Good people who are a benefit to the world die every day, and that's sad.  This guy on the other hand - not so much.
 
2013-08-02 02:34:04 AM
Liver failure? He's pretty much farked. :(
 
2013-08-02 02:49:56 AM

themindiswatching: Liver failure? He's pretty much farked. :(


Larry Hagman, Mickey Mantle...  just a few I can think of with jacked up livers who made it quite a while longer.
 
2013-08-02 04:29:02 AM
Some more from this POS:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2010/02/09/redstate-editor-howe-on-f-ing - traitor-murtha-go/160256
 
2013-08-02 07:06:11 AM

NewportBarGuy: Imagine if his health care were covered by a single-payer entity. He wouldn't have to beg like some homeless person.


Instead he'd have to hope for the compassion of a faceless bureaucrat properly filing and approving his request and then receive bottom tier care. Relying on your neighbors and people who genuinely care for you to help you, that's no way to go through life, I tells ya. Gov't assistance... now that's dignified.

It's nice to know that the compassion some people feel towards him exists only as far as they want to prove a point.
 
2013-08-02 07:07:27 AM

NewportBarGuy: ...like some homeless person.


Oh... and could you explain for me what makes homeless people, bad people?
 
2013-08-02 07:18:04 AM

Mrbogey: It's nice to know that the compassion some people feel towards him exists only as far as they want to prove a point.


  Why don't you go read some of his tweets laughing at the dying Roger Ebert or being thankful for Murtha dying.  This guy's death should be celebrated, not mourned.
 
2013-08-02 07:30:03 AM
He looks kind of young to have liver failure. Bummer. WTF is he doing without health insurance though?
 
2013-08-02 07:39:16 AM

Mugato: He looks kind of young to have liver failure. Bummer. WTF is he doing without health insurance though?


  I can't find any tweets or anything else from this guy for 3 years.  You can do a lot of damage if you drop off the grid and do little else but drink for 3 years.
 
2013-08-02 07:40:57 AM

Mrbogey: Instead he'd have to hope for the compassion of a faceless bureaucrat properly filing and approving his request and then receive bottom tier care.


You know how I know you have no idea what you're talking about?
 
2013-08-02 07:42:49 AM
Well that was nice of them.

Mugato: WTF is he doing without health insurance though?


Well, I doubt RedState offered insurance to their bloggers. Might have been one of those folks who think "I'm young and in relatively good health, why do I need insurance?" too.
 
2013-08-02 07:43:28 AM

themindiswatching: Liver failure? He's pretty much farked. :(


Depends on what the cause is. Depending on what's causing the liver failure it may be treatable and he'll regain liver function or yeah unless he gets a transplant he's farked. Just depends on what's causing it.
 
2013-08-02 07:47:37 AM

Aarontology: Well, I doubt RedState offered insurance to their bloggers. Might have been one of those folks who think "I'm young and in relatively good health, why do I need insurance?" too.


Yeah but he has kids, that's pretty irresponsible.

CPT Ethanolic: Larry Hagman, Mickey Mantle...  just a few I can think of with jacked up livers who made it quite a while longer.


They're called transplants and they can be a little hard to get if you're not Larry Hagman or Mickey Mantle.
 
2013-08-02 07:47:59 AM

WhyteRaven74: themindiswatching: Liver failure? He's pretty much farked. :(

Depends on what the cause is. Depending on what's causing the liver failure it may be treatable and he'll regain liver function or yeah unless he gets a transplant he's farked. Just depends on what's causing it.



The guy was an alcoholic.  Many tweets from him involving vodka.
 
2013-08-02 07:49:56 AM

Mugato: They're called transplants and they can be a little hard to get if you're not Larry Hagman or Mickey Mantle.


... or David Crosby...  sadly, very true.
 
2013-08-02 07:54:37 AM

CPT Ethanolic: The guy was an alcoholic. Many tweets from him involving vodka.


Yeah that's not good then. Especially since I don't think he's very old either.
 
2013-08-02 08:10:25 AM
nice headline subby.
 
2013-08-02 08:18:30 AM
A conservative blogger needs health insurance.

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2013-08-02 08:32:11 AM

NewportBarGuy: Imagine if his health care were covered by a single-payer entity. He wouldn't have to beg like some homeless person.


Not bootstrappy enough.
 
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2013-08-02 08:33:17 AM
If he lives long enough he can just get some insurance through his states Obamacare exchange.

Unless he would rather be a pan handler.
 
2013-08-02 08:37:07 AM

Mrbogey: Instead he'd have to hope for the compassion of a faceless bureaucrat properly filing and approving his request and then receive bottom tier care


He should have given Aetna or Aflac, or Providence, or Humana thousands of his bootstrappy dollars over the years so some faceless corporate accountant could rescind his policy for not disclosing he had acne in high school.
 
2013-08-02 08:46:19 AM
Hopefully, he'll learn a lesson about what it's like to have no health insurance in America when sudden illness strikes.

But, no. He'll probably learn the default "libertarian" lesson of "Hey, there's no need for government healthcare because if you get sick, charities and kind strangers will take care of it all!"
 
2013-08-02 08:50:18 AM

Mrbogey: NewportBarGuy: Imagine if his health care were covered by a single-payer entity. He wouldn't have to beg like some homeless person.

Instead he'd have to hope for the compassion of a faceless bureaucrat properly filing and approving his request and then receive bottom tier care. Relying on your neighbors and people who genuinely care for you to help you, that's no way to go through life, I tells ya. Gov't assistance... now that's dignified.

It's nice to know that the compassion some people feel towards him exists only as far as they want to prove a point.


A handout is a handout.  This man sits in harsh judgement of others, yet takes no responsibility for himself.
 
2013-08-02 09:09:57 AM
Too bad he didn't just smoke weed
 
2013-08-02 09:10:20 AM
See, why can't every other person in the country follow his lead and rely upon charity for their basic needs
 
2013-08-02 09:10:52 AM
If medical costs weren't so inflated and docs were allowed to compete across state-lines, maybe his treatment would have been affordable.
 
2013-08-02 09:11:32 AM

Diogenes: Mrbogey: NewportBarGuy: Imagine if his health care were covered by a single-payer entity. He wouldn't have to beg like some homeless person.

Instead he'd have to hope for the compassion of a faceless bureaucrat properly filing and approving his request and then receive bottom tier care. Relying on your neighbors and people who genuinely care for you to help you, that's no way to go through life, I tells ya. Gov't assistance... now that's dignified.

It's nice to know that the compassion some people feel towards him exists only as far as they want to prove a point.

A handout is a handout.  This man sits in harsh judgement of others, yet takes no responsibility for himself.


Sic semper derpis
 
2013-08-02 09:12:41 AM
I hope the more conservative people of the country will eventually realize that helping to pay or the healthcare of another person is the basis of socialized medicine.

If you donate money to an uninsured person, you are literally practicing the system you abhor.
 
2013-08-02 09:12:45 AM
Way to become a mooching parasite, Captain Bootstrap.
Next time, learn how to hold your liquor.
 
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2013-08-02 09:12:49 AM

NewportBarGuy: Imagine if his health care were covered by a single-payer entity. He wouldn't have to beg like some homeless person.

That would be nice, right?


done in one.
 
2013-08-02 09:13:11 AM
Maybe he can get RON PAUL to help and....oh wait.
 
2013-08-02 09:13:22 AM
I assume he's going to get a party transplant while he's in the hospital?

Oh, sorry, I'm sure he'll receive double down as a treatment.

//Republicanism- what you suffer from until you actually suffer and then you suffer denial
 
2013-08-02 09:17:05 AM

Diogenes: Mrbogey: NewportBarGuy: Imagine if his health care were covered by a single-payer entity. He wouldn't have to beg like some homeless person.

Instead he'd have to hope for the compassion of a faceless bureaucrat properly filing and approving his request and then receive bottom tier care. Relying on your neighbors and people who genuinely care for you to help you, that's no way to go through life, I tells ya. Gov't assistance... now that's dignified.

It's nice to know that the compassion some people feel towards him exists only as far as they want to prove a point.

A handout is a handout.  This man sits in harsh judgement of others, yet takes no responsibility for himself.



This.  It's the cognitive dissonance that kills me.  So this guy is being helped by the generosity of strangers.  But what about a person who doesn't have presence on the internet, or a network of wealthy friends to raise money for them?  They're just screwed AND they deserve to be screwed?

How can he celebrate the generosity of strangers in this situation, but condemn similarly situated people (who weren't so lucky) as an "irresponsible" person who "doesn't take responsibility for their own life" and therefore deserves to not have medical treatment?
 
2013-08-02 09:18:21 AM

Diogenes: Mrbogey: NewportBarGuy: Imagine if his health care were covered by a single-payer entity. He wouldn't have to beg like some homeless person.

Instead he'd have to hope for the compassion of a faceless bureaucrat properly filing and approving his request and then receive bottom tier care. Relying on your neighbors and people who genuinely care for you to help you, that's no way to go through life, I tells ya. Gov't assistance... now that's dignified.

It's nice to know that the compassion some people feel towards him exists only as far as they want to prove a point.

A handout is a handout.  This man sits in harsh judgement of others, yet takes no responsibility for himself.


Well, he IS a Republican...

Also - I hope his suffering and death get televised on FOX, so All Republicans can see the inevitable end result of their beliefs.

Hey Republicans (e.g. Teabaggers, Libertarians, birthers, Birchers, KKK, fundamentalists, etc): The suffering and death of those who cannot afford health care is at the very core of your beliefs. Enjoy the Hell you have knowingly and willingly brought on yourselves.
 
2013-08-02 09:19:17 AM

stoli n coke: Way to become a mooching parasite, Captain Bootstrap.

 
2013-08-02 09:20:15 AM

pigeonstopper: I hope the more conservative people of the country will eventually realize that helping to pay or the healthcare of another person is the basis of socialized medicine.

If you donate money to an uninsured person, you are literally practicing the system you abhor.



Giving to charitable causes does kind of undermine the whole "government handouts create a society of makers and takers" mantra, doesn't it?  But then again t I forgot, rich people are way more reliable, high-minded, and compassionate than "the government."
 
2013-08-02 09:20:52 AM
No insurance? No problem. Right up until it becomes a problem, of course. Then the rest of us get to pick up the slack.
 
2013-08-02 09:21:05 AM

Chummer45: How can he celebrate the generosity of strangers in this situation, but condemn similarly situated people (who weren't so lucky) as an "irresponsible" person who "doesn't take responsibility for their own life" and therefore deserves to not have medical treatment?


If you don't have family and friends wealthy enough or internet savvy enough to raise money for your care you just made poor life choices, breh... so conscience clear, booyah! suck it libs!
 
2013-08-02 09:21:06 AM

NewportBarGuy: Imagine if his health care were covered by a single-payer entity. He wouldn't have to beg like some homeless person.

That would be nice, right?


Imagine if he and his coworkers joined together in some kind of union for the purpose of negotiating with RedState to get health insurance added as a pay benefit.
 
2013-08-02 09:21:27 AM
No man is an island,
Entire of itself,
Every man is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thy friend's
Or of thine own were:
Any man's death diminishes me,
Because I am involved in mankind,
And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
It tolls for thee.
 
2013-08-02 09:21:35 AM

vernonFL: A conservative blogger needs health insurance.

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He should have sold those ten thousand spoons.
 
2013-08-02 09:23:37 AM

Aristocles: If medical costs weren't so inflated and docs were allowed to compete across state-lines, maybe his treatment would have been affordable.


And if he'd had insurance, he'd have spent his own money on the care he's now getting. (I know that's not how it works - the premium I pay today goes mostly to other peoples' claims tomorrow, and when I file a claim, their premia come to me. I'm simplifying.)

Libertarian moocher is a mooch.

Let's say he's been without insurance for the last 3 years. His portion of an employer's plan premium would have been about $951/year, or $79.25/month. For 3 years or 36 months, he chose to spend $2,853 on everything but planning for this kind of contingency. $2800 wouldn't be near enough to cover this illness, sure, but the insurance he bought with it would have, even if you figure in a $10k deductible (his goal was $25k).

Everyone who donated has financed his awful planning. Shouldn't a father of two young girls be a better life-planner? Isn't that the responsible, "family-oriented" thing to do, Libertarians?
 
2013-08-02 09:24:35 AM
You know, I'm glad that people were inspired to help.  I don't wish a painful, miserable death for anyone, much less young parents just because I disagree with their blowhard politics.  Yes, there is some karmic justice in him suffering so after openly mocking others' suffering, although he was just being a good Christian, perfectly in line with the Republican Bible.

However, what this will inevitably lead to is his charitable salvation being touted as the true way for this country, and that if he can get others to save him out of the goodness of their hearts, why can't everyone?  And that will be a god damned shame.
 
2013-08-02 09:26:38 AM
What a uniquely American story - people pitching in to help because we refuse to pitch in to help.
 
2013-08-02 09:26:43 AM
Bloggers should never get charity.
 
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