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(Lex 18)   Angry at being ordered to return an insurance payout? Pay it back in quarters. Four TONS' worth of quarters   (lex18.com) divider line 108
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2013-08-02 12:08:21 AM  
This story gets a lot less amusing if you read it: He's not giving it back, he's giving it to the other people riding with his son; this is 12 years after it happened and 10 years after he started fighting them over it; the father is mister bigmoneybags already; the father got paid even bigger money already from a different insurer.

What an asshole.
 
2013-08-02 12:34:47 AM  
If I lost my son, I wouldn't want money beyond nice funeral w/ kegs and a couple bottles of booze for the family.

After that? What's it gonna fix?
 
2013-08-02 02:16:33 AM  
While saying Herrin's choice of repayment method was his prerogative, Prince said he did find the unannounced delivery "surprising" - and a burglary risk for his law firm in Marion, Ill., given the media attention instantly foisted onto the thousands of dollars in coins.

"We've been on pins and needles because we had a lot of cash suddenly laying around, it was publicized," Prince said. "We don't have safes or vaults, and we lock our front door. Advance notice would have been nice, because we could have made arrangements to have it delivered to the bank."


Way to mitigate that risk, Mr. Lawyer Dude.
 
2013-08-02 02:38:50 AM  
Guys like that will nickle and dime you to death.
 
2013-08-02 04:19:54 AM  

Amos Quito: Guys like that will nickle and dime you to death.


And quarter and penny and half-dollar, Susan B Anthony dollar...
 
2013-08-02 04:26:48 AM  

mamoru: While saying Herrin's choice of repayment method was his prerogative, Prince said he did find the unannounced delivery "surprising" - and a burglary risk for his law firm in Marion, Ill., given the media attention instantly foisted onto the thousands of dollars in coins.

"We've been on pins and needles because we had a lot of cash suddenly laying around, it was publicized," Prince said. "We don't have safes or vaults, and we lock our front door. Advance notice would have been nice, because we could have made arrangements to have it delivered to the bank."

Way to mitigate that risk, Mr. Lawyer Dude.


It's Marion Illinois. Think Springfield from the Simpsons. There's one bad guy in town and everyone knows him.

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2013-08-02 04:29:06 AM  

mamoru: While saying Herrin's choice of repayment method was his prerogative, Prince said he did find the unannounced delivery "surprising" - and a burglary risk for his law firm in Marion, Ill., given the media attention instantly foisted onto the thousands of dollars in coins.

"We've been on pins and needles because we had a lot of cash suddenly laying around, it was publicized," Prince said. "We don't have safes or vaults, and we lock our front door. Advance notice would have been nice, because we could have made arrangements to have it delivered to the bank."

Way to mitigate that risk, Mr. Lawyer Dude.


Given that said lot of cash weighs four tons, they would have to be very strong burglars.
 
2013-08-02 04:39:25 AM  

doglover: If I lost my son, I wouldn't want money beyond nice funeral w/ kegs and a couple bottles of booze for the family.

After that? What's it gonna fix?


A lot of other people's problems, if you can be bothered to help them.  I'll take all the money I can give away.
 
2013-08-02 04:41:02 AM  

Gordon Bennett: mamoru: While saying Herrin's choice of repayment method was his prerogative, Prince said he did find the unannounced delivery "surprising" - and a burglary risk for his law firm in Marion, Ill., given the media attention instantly foisted onto the thousands of dollars in coins.

"We've been on pins and needles because we had a lot of cash suddenly laying around, it was publicized," Prince said. "We don't have safes or vaults, and we lock our front door. Advance notice would have been nice, because we could have made arrangements to have it delivered to the bank."

Way to mitigate that risk, Mr. Lawyer Dude.

Given that said lot of cash weighs four tons, they would have to be very strong burglars.


Or a group of linebackers. They're always looking to get the quarterback.
 
2013-08-02 04:41:39 AM  
So they're suing the dead guy who was not at fault in the accident and not the guy actually that blew through the stop sign? Makes perfect sense to me.
 
2013-08-02 04:43:40 AM  
Danger Avoid Death:

Or a group of linebackers. They're always looking to get the quarterback.

Nice.
 
2013-08-02 04:47:34 AM  

Rand's lacy underwear: This story gets a lot less amusing if you read it: He's not giving it back, he's giving it to the other people riding with his son sued him for his piece of the payout; this is 12 years after it happened, where out of the 4 that were in the car, his son was the only fatality, but having their kids survive wasn't enough for those greedy pricks, and they sued him for his share ,and 10 years after he started fighting them over it; the father is mister bigmoneybags already; he didn't need those greedy pricks rubbing it in his face that he's the only one that lost his son in this ordeal the father got paid even bigger money already from a different insurer.

What an assholes.



/FTFY
 
2013-08-02 04:49:26 AM  
"Those survivors appealed and won when the Mount Vernon, Ill.-based 5th District Appellate Court ruled against Roger Herrin, a retired foot surgeon whose business holdings include three southern Illinois nursing homes. Herrin has owned seven community banks, but he's sold those off in recent years."

incredibly wealthy man. sorry he lost his son. but what a dick. the survivors probably appealed because they racked up medical bills that are sky high.
 
2013-08-02 04:56:23 AM  

not5am: Rand's lacy underwear: This story gets a lot less amusing if you read it: He's not giving it back, he's giving it to the other people riding with his son sued him for his piece of the payout; this is 12 years after it happened, where out of the 4 that were in the car, his son was the only fatality, but having their kids survive wasn't enough for those greedy pricks, and they sued him for his share ,and 10 years after he started fighting them over it; the father is mister bigmoneybags already; he didn't need those greedy pricks rubbing it in his face that he's the only one that lost his son in this ordeal the father got paid even bigger money already from a different insurer.

What an assholes.


/FTFY


The son was genetic trash, and thus the only one to die.  The father should have to pay the rest because he refused to do the mature thing and have the little failure aborted.  Every single thing that happened involving his son is his fault for inflicting the DNA shiatstain upon the world.  Darwin cheered when the failure died; so should we

FTFY
 
2013-08-02 05:00:48 AM  

Rand's lacy underwear: This story gets a lot less amusing if you read it: He's not giving it back, he's giving it to the other people riding with his son; this is 12 years after it happened and 10 years after he started fighting them over it; the father is mister bigmoneybags already; the father got paid even bigger money already from a different insurer.

What an asshole.


His kid died.

Their kid lived.

And he's the asshole?
 
2013-08-02 05:01:49 AM  

KrispyKritter: the survivors probably appealed because they racked up medical bills that are sky high.


Where in TFA was that mentioned?
 
2013-08-02 05:04:24 AM  

SpaceBison: So they're suing the dead guy who was not at fault in the accident and not the guy actually that blew through the stop sign? Makes perfect sense to me.


my guess is the $800K is from the payout. he was awarded $500K because his son was the only one to die.

KrispyKritter: the survivors probably appealed because they racked up medical bills that are sky high.


in litigation for a decade, i doubt they're hurting for money.
 
2013-08-02 05:05:10 AM  

Cyclometh: His kid died.

Their kid lived.

And he's the asshole?


Victimhood is not redemptive.
 
2013-08-02 05:07:09 AM  

Amos Quito: Guys like that will nickle and dime you to death.


I think his reasoning was "meh, in for a penny... oh, wait, in for a quarter, in for a fifty pound Ziploc bag"
 
2013-08-02 05:07:40 AM  

karlandtanya: Cyclometh: His kid died.

Their kid lived.

And he's the asshole?

Victimhood is not redemptive.


Nor is it condemnative.
 
2013-08-02 05:07:41 AM  

not5am: SpaceBison: So they're suing the dead guy who was not at fault in the accident and not the guy actually that blew through the stop sign? Makes perfect sense to me.

my guess is the $800K is from the payout. he was awarded $500K because his son was the only one to die.

KrispyKritter: the survivors probably appealed because they racked up medical bills that are sky high.

in litigation for a decade, i doubt they're hurting for money.


Unless you change "medical bills" to "attorney bills".
 
2013-08-02 05:08:46 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Cyclometh: KrispyKritter: the survivors probably appealed because they racked up medical bills that are sky high.

Where in TFA was that mentioned?

right under the part where it mentioned medical treatment is free in the USA.


So, absent any actual facts we'll just make them up to suit our internal narrative because fark it.
 
2013-08-02 05:08:59 AM  

not5am: in litigation for a decade, i doubt they're hurting for money.


They are NOW.
 
2013-08-02 05:09:34 AM  

not5am: SpaceBison: So they're suing the dead guy who was not at fault in the accident and not the guy actually that blew through the stop sign? Makes perfect sense to me.

my guess is the $800K is from the payout. he was awarded $500K because his son was the only one to die.


Him getting a bigger share of the payout makes sense - from what I understand they are generally split by the degree of damage, and death kinda trumps the rest.

What doesn't make sense to me is this:  If the other victims felt their payout wasn't enough/didn't cover their medical expenses, why didn't they go after the ass who CAUSED the accident and his insurance company?
 
2013-08-02 05:09:39 AM  

not5am: SpaceBison: So they're suing the dead guy who was not at fault in the accident and not the guy actually that blew through the stop sign? Makes perfect sense to me.

my guess is the $800K is from the payout. he was awarded $500K because his son was the only one to die.


I can't figure that out. To me, from the article, it sounds like the $500k he was ordered to return wasn't the entirety of take from the insurance pay out. It almost sounds to me like he ended up with something $700k of the $800k and was ordered to pay back $500k.
 
2013-08-02 05:10:55 AM  
I have to approve of this guy's style - he paid it, end of story - act all 'armchair judge' on him all you want, this guy effed off a bunch of lawyers, nothing more. The original judgement was carried out, as was the amending judgement.

When did fark start defending no-win-no-fee hucksters?

Hang.your.heads.in.shame.
 
2013-08-02 05:12:21 AM  

karlandtanya: Victimhood is not redemptive.


what the flying shyte does that even mean?!?
 
2013-08-02 05:13:17 AM  
Old guy sounds like a complete tool bag. He owns 3 nursing homes and owned and sold 7 community banks in addition to being a retired foot surgeon. He was paid $1.6 million from his insurer and additional $800k from another insurer. It was from the additional 800k that he was required by a court ruling to return the survivors.

Now his son was killed, so obviously he suffered damage and I kind of doubt the driver deserves money since he ran a stop sign, but if money isn't going to bring back your son why are being such an asshole about giving it a portion of it back? Is it going to lower the gold level in your bank vault to the point you can no longer dive and swim in it safely?
 
2013-08-02 05:15:04 AM  

uttertosh: I have to approve of this guy's style - he paid it, end of story - act all 'armchair judge' on him all you want, this guy effed off a bunch of lawyers, nothing more. The original judgement was carried out, as was the amending judgement.

When did fark start defending no-win-no-fee hucksters?


Since they bribed us. In quarters.
 
2013-08-02 05:15:22 AM  
I'm on the side of the guy who sent the quarters.  Sure the other people were hurt, but his son died.  If any of us lost a son or daughter to an asshat who blew through a stop sign; we would want every penny we could get.  Not because we thought it would compensate for the lost of our loved one, but because we want the bastard who did it to pay.

There's a reason why he didn't pay in pennies.  15 million of the copper plated zinc pennies currently being minted would weigh 41 tons, 673 pounds, 5 and a half ounces.  That's 37,500 kilograms for the metric snobs.
 
2013-08-02 05:15:57 AM  

Uisce Beatha: Him getting a bigger share of the payout makes sense - from what I understand they are generally split by the degree of damage, and death kinda trumps the rest.


But it's not HIS death. Also the living still have medical bills to pay and such. 7/8 and he wasn't even in the vehicle? No way. But:

uttertosh: this guy effed off a bunch of lawyers



I don't have any problems with that. More people should do it.
 
2013-08-02 05:16:08 AM  

Person: Old guy sounds like a complete tool bag. He owns 3 nursing homes and owned and sold 7 community banks in addition to being a retired foot surgeon. He was paid $1.6 million from his insurer and additional $800k from another insurer. It was from the additional 800k that he was required by a court ruling to return the survivors.

Now his son was killed, so obviously he suffered damage and I kind of doubt the driver deserves money since he ran a stop sign, but if money isn't going to bring back your son why are being such an asshole about giving it a portion of it back? Is it going to lower the gold level in your bank vault to the point you can no longer dive and swim in it safely?


Oh, I get it, he has money and his own separate insurance policy, so if his son gets killed, he shouldn't be entitled to an insurance payout from the driver who caused the accident, is that it?

He's rich, so fark him.  Nice.
 
2013-08-02 05:18:05 AM  

Cyclometh: karlandtanya: Cyclometh: His kid died.

Their kid lived.

And he's the asshole?

Victimhood is not redemptive.

Nor is it condemnative.


Sure it is.  It is called survival of the fittest - and his geneline wasn't.  Failure should not hoard resources meant for the stronger, fitter people who can survive.  You can't argue with science.  His son died, the others did not.  That is due to weak, fragile DNA.  It wasn't the son's fault he was born a lesser being, but why shouldn't the boys with the best genes take the resources that would have been used to coddle a failed, weak, barely human waste, and use it to improve their objectively superior lives?
 
2013-08-02 05:20:00 AM  

doglover: But it's not HIS death.


No, it was his son's death.  They payout goes to his son's estate - hence, his dad.  Or are we saying if you get killed in an accident, well, you're dead, so insurance coverage no longer applies?

doglover: Also the living still have medical bills to pay and such.


So sue the asshat who caused the wreck, not another victim.
 
2013-08-02 05:21:45 AM  
Rusty Wallace paid a $5000 fine from NASCAR with 500,000 pennies some years back.

/didn't RTFA
 
2013-08-02 05:22:02 AM  

Korzine: I can't figure that out. To me, from the article, it sounds like the $500k he was ordered to return wasn't the entirety of take from the insurance pay out. It almost sounds to me like he ended up with something $700k of the $800k and was ordered to pay back $500k.


found a better article.

FTA:
The boy's family received $1.65 million in a settlement of a wrongful-death lawsuit with two insurance companies representing the truck driver. In addition, a trial court awarded the Herrins $500,000 of an $800,000 pool for under-insured motorists for all passengers.

sounds like he sued the insurance company separately the 3 others probably included his son's death in their suit (would explain why the court awarded him a piece of the $800K). would really explain why he's being so vindictive about it.
 
2013-08-02 05:22:03 AM  

Uisce Beatha: Him getting a bigger share of the payout makes sense - from what I understand they are generally split by the degree of damage, and death kinda trumps the rest.


Death is actually pretty cheap. Medical care for injuries and counselling for trauma is often far more expensive.
 
2013-08-02 05:23:30 AM  

PaLarkin: I'm on the side of the guy who sent the quarters.  Sure the other people were hurt, but his son died.  If any of us lost a son or daughter to an asshat who blew through a stop sign; we would want every penny we could get.  Not because we thought it would compensate for the lost of our loved one, but because we want the bastard who did it to pay.

There's a reason why he didn't pay in pennies.  15 million of the copper plated zinc pennies currently being minted would weigh 41 tons, 673 pounds, 5 and a half ounces.  That's 37,500 kilograms for the metric snobs.


The money at this point has nothing to do with the guy that blew through the stop sign though. He may not even have any idea any of this crap is going on. The lawsuit is purely between the between the people in the car that was hit. The other three in the accident felt that the payout wasn't equitable and the judge agreed. He's wasn't ordered to return the money to the insurer, he was order to redistribute a larger portion to the other victims of the car accident.
 
2013-08-02 05:23:48 AM  

Uisce Beatha: So sue the asshat who caused the wreck, not another victim.


THIS!

goddammitsoeffingmuch, THIS! Anyone who thinks otherwise is a sympathiser to the no-win-no-fee culture, and the sub-humans who market it.
 
2013-08-02 05:25:01 AM  

DerAppie: Uisce Beatha: Him getting a bigger share of the payout makes sense - from what I understand they are generally split by the degree of damage, and death kinda trumps the rest.

Death is actually pretty cheap. Medical care for injuries and counselling for trauma is often far more expensive.


Oh, I understand that and agree.  I was just under the impression that insurance payouts tend to increase with the severity of the injury.
 
2013-08-02 05:26:12 AM  

Person: Old guy sounds like a complete tool bag. He owns 3 nursing homes and owned and sold 7 community banks in addition to being a retired foot surgeon. He was paid $1.6 million from his insurer and additional $800k from another insurer. It was from the additional 800k that he was required by a court ruling to return the survivors.

Now his son was killed, so obviously he suffered damage and I kind of doubt the driver deserves money since he ran a stop sign, but if money isn't going to bring back your son why are being such an asshole about giving it a portion of it back? Is it going to lower the gold level in your bank vault to the point you can no longer dive and swim in it safely?


Old guy does sound like a tool bag... but why is his financial status called into question without questioning those he was forced to pay it to ?

Probable (but not defined) the other parents also scrooge mcduck from time to time.
 
2013-08-02 05:26:54 AM  

Uisce Beatha: No, it was his son's death. They payout goes to his son's estate - hence, his dad. Or are we saying if you get killed in an accident, well, you're dead, so insurance coverage no longer applies?


The boy's family received $1.65 million in a settlement of a wrongful-death lawsuit with two insurance companies representing the truck driver. In addition, a trial court awarded the Herrins $500,000 of an $800,000 pool for underinsured motorists for all passengers.

But in January 2012, the state 5th District Appellate Court ruled that the Saline County trial court had erred in awarding the Herrins the additional money and ordered that it be redistributed to the injured passengers. Wednesday was the deadline for Herrin to comply.


The guy got a boo hoo sympathy check above and beyond quite of bit of real insurance coverage. The courts agree, the people agree, and even he agrees although he acts contrary to what he says that the money won't help him heal the hole in his heart.

But he cheesed off lawyers, and so at least some good came from all this.
 
2013-08-02 05:28:21 AM  

Person: Old guy sounds like a complete tool bag. He owns 3 nursing homes and owned and sold 7 community banks in addition to being a retired foot surgeon.


He did surgery with his feet?
 
2013-08-02 05:28:57 AM  

Uisce Beatha: I was just under the impression that insurance payouts tend to increase with the severity of the injury.


1.65 million not enough of an increase?

Pirates' estates got .... $140 if they died, tops.
 
2013-08-02 05:31:14 AM  

Uisce Beatha: DerAppie: Uisce Beatha: Him getting a bigger share of the payout makes sense - from what I understand they are generally split by the degree of damage, and death kinda trumps the rest.

Death is actually pretty cheap. Medical care for injuries and counselling for trauma is often far more expensive.

Oh, I understand that and agree.  I was just under the impression that insurance payouts tend to increase with the severity of the injury.


But then why does he need 5/8th of the pool of money? The others have legitimate costs to cover (mental and physical health, lost income), the father in tfa only has a funeral to arrange. Giving him 500k and the rest 100k each just isn't "fair" for as much as compensation for losing a son in an accident can be fair.
 
2013-08-02 05:32:30 AM  

doglover: Uisce Beatha: I was just under the impression that insurance payouts tend to increase with the severity of the injury.

1.65 million not enough of an increase?

Pirates' estates got .... $140 if they died, tops.


I tell a lie. Pieces of eight were more valuable than I remember. It was still not much.
 
2013-08-02 05:35:01 AM  
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2013-08-02 05:38:13 AM  

DerAppie: But then why does he need 5/8th of the pool of money? The others have legitimate costs to cover (mental and physical health, lost income), the father in tfa only has a funeral to arrange. Giving him 500k and the rest 100k each just isn't "fair" for as much as compensation for losing a son in an accident can be fair.


he sued the driver's insurance company separately and won $1.8M. the only reason he'd get a piece of the $800K is if part of that payout was for his son as well, and a trial court awarded that too him.
 
2013-08-02 05:38:25 AM  
Thus his son is avenged!
 
2013-08-02 05:44:38 AM  

not5am: he sued the driver's insurance company separately and won $1.8M.


And that money is his and no one is trying to take it away from him. I don't see how that is relevant.

the only reason he'd get a piece of the $800K is if part of that payout was for his son as well, and a trial court awarded that too him.

That 800k is to be shared amongst the people involved in the collision. His son doesn't need the money because he, to be blunt, is dead and can't spend it anyway. The survivors can use the money, the court agreed with the other survivors that they have more right to the lion's share of the money than someone who is dead (which is why the order was given to redistribute the wealth). I really don't see why the parent of the person who died needs 62.5% of the money and the 3 others get to split the rest.
 
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