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(KOIN Portland)   If you're going to go to a brewpub and ring up a $100 tab, first make sure you brought with you some way to pay for it. Second, if you ignore step one, don't act all shocked when the brewpub shames you on Facebook   (koin.com) divider line 71
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2013-08-01 04:02:45 PM
I'll need a list of what he drank at the brew pub in order to properly gauge my disdain.
 
2013-08-01 04:25:32 PM
FTA:
Zelaznog told the Reno Gazette-Journal he had forgotten a method of payment when he visited Tuesday, but planned to return to pay the tab.

Zelaznog says he was asking relatives to wire him money in hopes of paying the bill by Thursday.

 Those two statements seem to contradict each other.  If you 'forgot' your method of payment, it implies that you had a method of payment readily available somewhere nearby.

Asking relatives to wire money implies that you in fact did not have a method of payment available, were hoping not to get caught, and now that the jig is up are forced to beg for the funds to make right.
 
2013-08-01 04:36:38 PM

Pocket Ninja: I'll need a list of what he drank at the brew pub in order to properly gauge my disdain.


He gets his beer from New York City!
 
2013-08-01 04:40:08 PM

TuteTibiImperes: FTA:
Zelaznog told the Reno Gazette-Journal he had forgotten a method of payment when he visited Tuesday, but planned to return to pay the tab.

Zelaznog says he was asking relatives to wire him money in hopes of paying the bill by Thursday.
 Those two statements seem to contradict each other.  If you 'forgot' your method of payment, it implies that you had a method of payment readily available somewhere nearby.

Asking relatives to wire money implies that you in fact did not have a method of payment available, were hoping not to get caught, and now that the jig is up are forced to beg for the funds to make right.


I'm wondering if he visited from elsewhere and left his CC at home, and discovered it at the brewpub. It's POSSIBLE...
 
2013-08-01 04:40:42 PM

TuteTibiImperes: FTA:
Zelaznog told the Reno Gazette-Journal he had forgotten a method of payment when he visited Tuesday, but planned to return to pay the tab.

Zelaznog says he was asking relatives to wire him money in hopes of paying the bill by Thursday.
 Those two statements seem to contradict each other.  If you 'forgot' your method of payment, it implies that you had a method of payment readily available somewhere nearby.

Asking relatives to wire money implies that you in fact did not have a method of payment available, were hoping not to get caught, and now that the jig is up are forced to beg for the funds to make right.


I'm guessing he forgot to get a job.t1.gstatic.com
 
2013-08-01 04:41:00 PM
FTA:  Employees of the Brewer's Cabinet in Reno posted a picture of smiling patron Saul Zelaznog on Tuesday

blogs.cio.com
 
2013-08-01 04:41:39 PM
In other news, someone at the Reno Gazette-Journal is sleeping with someone at the Brewer's Cabinet in Reno.
 
2013-08-01 04:42:00 PM
I shamed a man in Reno just to watch him cry.
 
2013-08-01 04:44:04 PM

derpy: I shamed a man in Reno just to watch him cry.


We're done here
 
2013-08-01 04:45:08 PM
Zelaznog says he was asking relatives to wire him money in hopes of paying the bill by Thursday.

So you didn't forget. You just couldn't pay and thought you could get away with it.
 
2013-08-01 04:45:37 PM

derpy: I shamed a man in Reno just to watch him cry.


You win this thread.
 
2013-08-01 04:46:32 PM
Can I borrow a hundred bucks from someone? I swear I'll pay it back...
 
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2013-08-01 04:47:00 PM

derpy: I shamed a man in Reno just to watch him cry.


www.zuguide.com
 
2013-08-01 04:47:18 PM

Fonaibung: TuteTibiImperes: FTA:
Zelaznog told the Reno Gazette-Journal he had forgotten a method of payment when he visited Tuesday, but planned to return to pay the tab.

Zelaznog says he was asking relatives to wire him money in hopes of paying the bill by Thursday.
 Those two statements seem to contradict each other.  If you 'forgot' your method of payment, it implies that you had a method of payment readily available somewhere nearby.

Asking relatives to wire money implies that you in fact did not have a method of payment available, were hoping not to get caught, and now that the jig is up are forced to beg for the funds to make right.

I'm wondering if he visited from elsewhere and left his CC at home, and discovered it at the brewpub. It's POSSIBLE...


The article (poorly) linked from the posted article (seriously, you just give us an URL instead of a hyperlink?) says that he's a Reno native, same place as the brewpub, and that he said he 'forgot' his wallet.

Also, he's done it before:

FTOA:
Zelaznog said a similar situation went down at another local restaurant, where he said he left a "nice watch" as collateral.

"I'm not trying to burn bridges around town," he said. "This is a small little town."


Generally buddy, if you want to avoid burning bridges with restaurants, you should make sure you have a means to pay before eating and drinking there.
 
2013-08-01 04:49:05 PM

Fonaibung: TuteTibiImperes: FTA:
Zelaznog told the Reno Gazette-Journal he had forgotten a method of payment when he visited Tuesday, but planned to return to pay the tab.

Zelaznog says he was asking relatives to wire him money in hopes of paying the bill by Thursday.
 Those two statements seem to contradict each other.  If you 'forgot' your method of payment, it implies that you had a method of payment readily available somewhere nearby.

Asking relatives to wire money implies that you in fact did not have a method of payment available, were hoping not to get caught, and now that the jig is up are forced to beg for the funds to make right.

I'm wondering if he visited from elsewhere and left his CC at home, and discovered it at the brewpub. It's POSSIBLE...


Unless it's in error, the original Facebook post says he skipped out on the tab at at least 3 other establishments in Reno.  I don't think this could have happened to a more deserving fellow...
 
2013-08-01 04:50:00 PM

Buzzbe: Can I borrow a hundred bucks from someone? I swear I'll pay it back...


And if you have to ask relatives for $100, maybe you shouldn't be out running up a tab and drinking on a Tuesday...
 
2013-08-01 04:50:34 PM

redmid17: FTA:  Employees of the Brewer's Cabinet in Reno posted a picture of smiling patron Saul Zelaznog on Tuesday

[blogs.cio.com image 560x155]


Saul Go Odman? Saul Gotodman?
 
2013-08-01 04:53:34 PM
Social media is really hurting my ability to be an effective deadbeat.
 
2013-08-01 04:54:38 PM

Pocket Ninja: I'll need a list of what he drank at the brew pub in order to properly gauge my disdain.


Probably something nancy like a raspberry-wheat ale.
 
2013-08-01 04:56:21 PM

Lando Lincoln: Social media is really hurting my ability to be an effective deadbeat.


All the deadbeats I know purposely don't have facebook accounts and the like, always some slippery excuses as to why but it pretty much boils down to increasing chances of old victims gaining opportunity to ward off new victims, or old victims being able to figure out where the hell the jack ass disappeared to.
 
2013-08-01 04:59:10 PM
mafiatoday.com
The owner was none too pleased when he didn't pay his tab.
 
2013-08-01 05:03:43 PM

BumpInTheNight: Lando Lincoln: Social media is really hurting my ability to be an effective deadbeat.

All the deadbeats I know purposely don't have facebook accounts and the like, always some slippery excuses as to why but it pretty much boils down to increasing chances of old victims gaining opportunity to ward off new victims, or old victims being able to figure out where the hell the jack ass disappeared to.


Not a deadbeat, I just don't have time to bother with the trivialities of peoples' lives or the stupid egotism of posting the trivialities of my own.

But this gives me another reason to not have a FB account.
 
2013-08-01 05:08:07 PM
I'm just glad the gas station did not do this to me the other day when I filled up then noticed I left my wallet at home. Probably becouse I live right down the street and stop in every day on my way to work to get coffee
 
2013-08-01 05:09:48 PM

cardex: I'm just glad the gas station did not do this to me the other day when I filled up then noticed I left my wallet at home. Probably becouse I live right down the street and stop in every day on my way to work to get coffee


I can't even remember the last time I saw a gas station that let you pump before paying.
 
2013-08-01 05:10:54 PM

BumpInTheNight: Lando Lincoln: Social media is really hurting my ability to be an effective deadbeat.

All the deadbeats I know purposely don't have facebook accounts and the like, always some slippery excuses as to why but it pretty much boils down to increasing chances of old victims gaining opportunity to ward off new victims, or old victims being able to figure out where the hell the jack ass disappeared to.


I know plenty of people with Facebook accounts who are deadbeats.  There is no moral vetting system when signing up for a Facebook account....any idiot can have one.
 
2013-08-01 05:11:00 PM
this one time my i couldn't pay a tab because my only credit/debit card was cancelled unbeknowst to me for some fraud charges... i called the bank, and there were fraudulent charges so they wouldn't reactivate the card (someone tried to spend 4000 at a walmart, don't know how they spoofed my card, but fortunately i wasn't on the hook for any of the fraudulent charges).  that meant i couldn't get cash either.

i asked the bartender when she worked next, and returned that day with the money and a big tip because i was seriously embarrassed and didn't want to lose that bar as a place to frequent.

/ after paying, i still didn't go back for a couple years out of shame.
// of course, when i went back... she was working.  mine is a shameful existence.
 
2013-08-01 05:13:52 PM

TuteTibiImperes: cardex: I'm just glad the gas station did not do this to me the other day when I filled up then noticed I left my wallet at home. Probably becouse I live right down the street and stop in every day on my way to work to get coffee

I can't even remember the last time I saw a gas station that let you pump before paying.


I didn't think they still existed either, but when I was up in Iowa back in May for my daughter's graduation, it seemed most places did still have the option to do that. Where I live now? Not going to happen.
 
2013-08-01 05:14:19 PM
Alcohol is pretty good at destroying your body and making you look older, if that's what you're into.
 
2013-08-01 05:16:07 PM

AllUpInYa: BumpInTheNight: Lando Lincoln: Social media is really hurting my ability to be an effective deadbeat.

All the deadbeats I know purposely don't have facebook accounts and the like, always some slippery excuses as to why but it pretty much boils down to increasing chances of old victims gaining opportunity to ward off new victims, or old victims being able to figure out where the hell the jack ass disappeared to.

Not a deadbeat, I just don't have time to bother with the trivialities of peoples' lives or the stupid egotism of posting the trivialities of my own.

But this gives me another reason to not have a FB account.


and yet here you are, professing your disdain for a cultural phenomenon you don't understand to relative strangers and thinking your in some way better off because of it. ;)  Here's a hint:  You can adjust to what degree you see updates from specific people, those that spam with trivial bullshiat can be filtered out in varying degrees and hey it lets you skip some of those wasteful face time situations like the 60 pictures of your smug friend's latest trip to a chain resort in a 3rd world country, as an example.

More seriously though I rarely post and heavily filtered the feeds, let's me keep ties with distant friends I don't get to see very often and I have to admit its pretty useful for organizing events.  Turn off that godawful app platform though, that shiat is toxic and responsible for 95% of facebook's ills.
 
2013-08-01 05:20:23 PM

BurrisYeltsin: Alcohol is pretty good at destroying your body and making you look older, if that's what you're into.


It's also a very effective social catalyst, anxiety inhibitor, makes you feel nice, and often tastes good.
 
2013-08-01 05:22:33 PM

AGremlin: I know plenty of people with Facebook accounts who are deadbeats. There is no moral vetting system when signing up for a Facebook account....any idiot can have one.


Yah its more of a typical response when I get when someone I know who's on the iffy side and I don't really want to connect with but willing to at least see if they're more then the sketchy behavior.  An example like they ask if they can borrow something or owe me a beer etc and 'get my phone number to pay me back' and I suggest facebook instead.  Usually they'll say they don't have one and well that's the end of that :)  The other sketchy is usually the serial womanizers, at least they're usually honest about why  they don't have an account.
 
2013-08-01 05:23:16 PM
...and I can't believe I'm actually defending facebook as useful...god damn you guys, I need a beer.
 
2013-08-01 05:26:04 PM
www.weirdspace.dk
 
2013-08-01 05:26:31 PM

buzzcut73: TuteTibiImperes: cardex: I'm just glad the gas station did not do this to me the other day when I filled up then noticed I left my wallet at home. Probably becouse I live right down the street and stop in every day on my way to work to get coffee

I can't even remember the last time I saw a gas station that let you pump before paying.

I didn't think they still existed either, but when I was up in Iowa back in May for my daughter's graduation, it seemed most places did still have the option to do that. Where I live now? Not going to happen.


Strange in my area the only place that makes you pay before pumping is the one that is really a crack house pretending to be a gas station
 
2013-08-01 05:28:14 PM

buzzcut73: TuteTibiImperes: cardex: I'm just glad the gas station did not do this to me the other day when I filled up then noticed I left my wallet at home. Probably becouse I live right down the street and stop in every day on my way to work to get coffee

I can't even remember the last time I saw a gas station that let you pump before paying.

I didn't think they still existed either, but when I was up in Iowa back in May for my daughter's graduation, it seemed most places did still have the option to do that. Where I live now? Not going to happen.


plenty of them here.
 
2013-08-01 05:33:23 PM

TuteTibiImperes: cardex: I'm just glad the gas station did not do this to me the other day when I filled up then noticed I left my wallet at home. Probably becouse I live right down the street and stop in every day on my way to work to get coffee

I can't even remember the last time I saw a gas station that let you pump before paying.


I've only ever seen ONE that didn't. Move somewhere civilized.
 
2013-08-01 05:33:42 PM
If you are going to shame people about financial transactions on facebook, make sure it is legal in your state before you do that.
 
2013-08-01 05:36:10 PM
AllUpInYa: Not a deadbeat, I just don't have time to bother with the trivialities of peoples' lives or the stupid egotism of posting the trivialities of my own.

But this gives me another reason to not have a FB account.


Gosh, we're all really impressed down here, I can tell you.
 
2013-08-01 05:36:47 PM
olapbill:

plenty of them here.

I would imagine in the midwest there are plenty of places like that, especially in smaller towns where people know everybody.
Currently, I live close enough to the Mexican border that $10 in gas put into the most fuel inefficient vehicle will be enough to get you out of the country.

cardex:

Strange in my area the only place that makes you pay before pumping is the one that is really a crack house pretending to be a gas station

We don't have any of these, however.
 
2013-08-01 05:39:20 PM
Imperial and Campo are both real nice establishments. Surprised he made it out of Campo alive, that manager is OCD and lives his money.

/ lives in Reno
 
2013-08-01 05:48:37 PM

pute kisses like a man: this one time my i couldn't pay a tab because my only credit/debit card was cancelled unbeknowst to me for some fraud charges... i called the bank, and there were fraudulent charges so they wouldn't reactivate the card (someone tried to spend 4000 at a walmart, don't know how they spoofed my card, but fortunately i wasn't on the hook for any of the fraudulent charges).  that meant i couldn't get cash either.

i asked the bartender when she worked next, and returned that day with the money and a big tip because i was seriously embarrassed and didn't want to lose that bar as a place to frequent.

/ after paying, i still didn't go back for a couple years out of shame.
// of course, when i went back... she was working.  mine is a shameful existence.


Hmmm, that sucks.  My banks have always called me with suspicious charges, held just those charges, and wouldn't cancel my card unless I told them those were not my charges.
 
2013-08-01 05:48:54 PM
It's not his first time, and likely won't be his last.  I hope they print up "not wanted" posters with his picture and pass them out to every restaurant and bar in town.

Here is his mugshot from an arrest last year.  "Use Cr/Dbt Card Or Id W/O Consent "

http://nevada.mugshotsdatabase.com/14683/saul-armando-zelaznog-mug-s ho t/
 
2013-08-01 05:51:27 PM
It takes a real braniac for somebody named Gonzalez to create an alias of Zelaznog.
 
2013-08-01 05:56:46 PM

FrancoFile: It takes a real braniac for somebody named Gonzalez to create an alias of Zelaznog.


I agree, he's a total norom.
 
2013-08-01 05:56:49 PM

derpy: I shamed a man in Reno just to watch him cry.


This is the current best thing in the universe. Oh! Now it's over.
 
2013-08-01 06:11:27 PM
Heh.  I ran up a good bill at a restaurant near my house then realized I'd left the house without my wallet.  I left my phone as collateral while I drove home.  Came back, left a big tip, and tucked a hundie my car so that wouldn't happen again.  I've had to dip into the emergency fund a couple times since then.
 
2013-08-01 06:17:25 PM

downstairs: pute kisses like a man: this one time my i couldn't pay a tab because my only credit/debit card was cancelled unbeknowst to me for some fraud charges... i called the bank, and there were fraudulent charges so they wouldn't reactivate the card (someone tried to spend 4000 at a walmart, don't know how they spoofed my card, but fortunately i wasn't on the hook for any of the fraudulent charges).  that meant i couldn't get cash either.

i asked the bartender when she worked next, and returned that day with the money and a big tip because i was seriously embarrassed and didn't want to lose that bar as a place to frequent.

/ after paying, i still didn't go back for a couple years out of shame.
// of course, when i went back... she was working.  mine is a shameful existence.

Hmmm, that sucks.  My banks have always called me with suspicious charges, held just those charges, and wouldn't cancel my card unless I told them those were not my charges.


i think they had tried to get a hold of me several times, but during that time of my life, i had a pretty ridiculous practice of never answering my phone or checking voice mail.

oh well, I got over the incident.  and, it's not so shameful anymore.  I've run into that bartender several times by accident, and all seems fine.  I made a bigger deal about it personally than any one else.
 
2013-08-01 06:18:36 PM
According to TFA, our Mr. Zelaznog is also known as Gonzalez.  So, he's using an alias which is his other name spelled backwards.  Sounds like a fine, upstanding, honest citizen to me!
 
2013-08-01 06:23:33 PM
BALD ERIC!

/PHX
 
2013-08-01 06:24:30 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Fonaibung: TuteTibiImperes: FTA:
Zelaznog told the Reno Gazette-Journal he had forgotten a method of payment when he visited Tuesday, but planned to return to pay the tab.

Zelaznog says he was asking relatives to wire him money in hopes of paying the bill by Thursday.
 Those two statements seem to contradict each other.  If you 'forgot' your method of payment, it implies that you had a method of payment readily available somewhere nearby.

Asking relatives to wire money implies that you in fact did not have a method of payment available, were hoping not to get caught, and now that the jig is up are forced to beg for the funds to make right.

I'm wondering if he visited from elsewhere and left his CC at home, and discovered it at the brewpub. It's POSSIBLE...

The article (poorly) linked from the posted article (seriously, you just give us an URL instead of a hyperlink?) says that he's a Reno native, same place as the brewpub, and that he said he 'forgot' his wallet.

Also, he's done it before:

FTOA:
Zelaznog said a similar situation went down at another local restaurant, where he said he left a "nice watch" as collateral.

"I'm not trying to burn bridges around town," he said. "This is a small little town."

Generally buddy, if you want to avoid burning bridges with restaurants, you should make sure you have a means to pay before eating and drinking there.


Not to mention a generous tip.
 
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