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(The Atlantic Wire)   Hillary Clinton was right about Barack Obama in 2008 and we probably should have elected her if we actually wanted to get stuff done   (theatlanticwire.com) divider line 17
    More: Obvious, Obama, Jedi Mind, American Love, Bill Clinton, James Carville, Maureen Dowd  
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2013-08-01 04:17:34 PM
12 votes:
Oh this crap again?  Please.  The man is more than his speeches.  And if you think the GOP would have gone easier on Hillary, or that she wouldn't have faced the same intransigence, you're really deluded.
2013-08-01 04:37:14 PM
5 votes:
The argument here is that Obama's mistake is that he thought the Republicans could be reasoned with.
2013-08-01 05:18:22 PM
3 votes:
Its a fluff propaganda piece...Yawn. Is anyone surprised by these articles? They are just beating the drum for 2016, its like all those derpfests "OMG! Did You Know Clinton is over 6,000,000 years Old!" or "Ted Cruz is America's Last Hope!" and anyone who takes them any more seriously than that is a moron. But it amuses me that people are getting bent out of shape over what is essentially the online equivalent of an infomercial. Especially one pushing a candidate that has yet to say they are going to run.
2013-08-01 06:24:42 PM
2 votes:
So the Democrats should run away from Obama?  Yea, that worked so well for Al Gore.

Obama is/was (speaking from the 2016 campaign standpoint) a fine effective president who handled a lot of difficult things quite well.  I wish he had done more but he is hardly a son i am dissapoint.  An 'Obama who?' campaign on the part of a Democratic candidate is playing into GOP hands. 

Obama won 2 elections and left the country in much better shape than he found it, do not run away from his record.
2013-08-01 04:44:55 PM
2 votes:
The temper tantrums and obstructionism from the right would be worse if they had to play with a girl.
2013-08-01 04:31:39 PM
2 votes:
She would NEVER have been elected. The GOP had a smear campaign a mile wide and fathoms deep to launch against her. It would have been awful.
2013-08-01 04:24:37 PM
2 votes:
Because Hillary...

pizen: Diogenes: And if you think the GOP would have gone easier on Hillary, or that she wouldn't have faced the same intransigence, you're really deluded.

^THIS


Ah, already been said.  Fiddlesticks.
2013-08-01 04:18:39 PM
2 votes:

Diogenes: And if you think the GOP would have gone easier on Hillary, or that she wouldn't have faced the same intransigence, you're really deluded.


^THIS
2013-08-01 10:43:17 PM
1 votes:

Neighborhood Watch: LordJiro: I still find it funny that so many people, particularly right-wing shills and trolls pretending to be such, assume that Hillary will even RUN for the nomination (when she has said she has no intention to), let alone win it. Good to see the Republicans haven't learned a damn thing from the '08 election!

I stand corrected, sir.  When a Clinton speaks, it's the TRUTH.


Even on the off chance she DOES run, there are enough Democrats who don't like her for whatever reason. She won't get the nomination, and Republicans will have wasted all this smearing on a candidate who has no realistic shot at the nomination, so they'll have used up a lot of their outrage on nothing, and will have to make shiat up for the ACTUAL nominee. Like complaining about their birth certificate, or biatching about what vegetables or condiments they like.

Just like 08.
2013-08-01 04:54:21 PM
1 votes:

PC LOAD LETTER: She would NEVER have been elected. The GOP had a smear campaign a mile wide and fathoms deep to launch against her. It would have been awful.


Came here to say this.  She had no chance in 2008.  Even less chance in 2016.   The right can dream that they will run against her, but I'm guessing the Dem nominee in 2016 is someone most people have not heard of as of today.  Including me
2013-08-01 04:51:15 PM
1 votes:
Why do we have to talk about the same stupid article twice in one day?
2013-08-01 04:47:38 PM
1 votes:
Ambivalence:  She could win in 2016.

She can but I remain convinced that she won't run even though a lot of people want her too. Many people were convinced after the Lewinsky scandal that she would divorce Bill and she never did. She can go against the crowd. Her tenure at the State Dept. had all the marks of a person in a hurry. That's someone who is likely to retire, not go on to be President.
2013-08-01 04:45:49 PM
1 votes:

Diogenes: Oh this crap again?  Please.  The man is more than his speeches.  And if you think the GOP would have gone easier on Hillary, or that she wouldn't have faced the same intransigence, you're really deluded.


GOP would have gone easier on her out of fear.

I swear they think the woman is a witch capable of placing hexes on their children.
2013-08-01 04:44:12 PM
1 votes:
The problem was not the message the problem was the implementation, specifically Obama does not have and never did have the personality to do a Jedi mind-meld. Obama is the classic INTJ lawyer-type who goes into politics but then can't transcend his introversion. He fundamentally feels most comfortable relating to people via the world of ideas and is awkward at grasping the emotional moment (though he has go better at this as time has gone on). Basically, he had the right message but could never figure out how to get over himself. Welcome to being a human being.
2013-08-01 04:42:02 PM
1 votes:

vernonFL: The biggest reason NOT to vote for Hillary is so that people like James Carville don't get anywhere near the White House ever again.

If you think the Lib cult of the Obama Messiah is bad, wait until the "Clintonistas" get back into power.


Can't wait!
2013-08-01 04:35:03 PM
1 votes:

PC LOAD LETTER: She would NEVER have been elected. The GOP had a smear campaign a mile wide and fathoms deep to launch against her. It would have been awful.


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2013-08-01 04:28:28 PM
1 votes:
The biggest reason NOT to vote for Hillary is so that people like James Carville don't get anywhere near the White House ever again.

If you think the Lib cult of the Obama Messiah is bad, wait until the "Clintonistas" get back into power.
 
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