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2013-08-01 03:53:51 PM  
Seems like someone's bluff was called.

I thought we were going to shut the government down if Obama didn't accept this budget (among other derpy demands)?
 
2013-08-01 03:58:46 PM  
Next time, Jack, write a goddamn memo
 
2013-08-01 04:18:25 PM  
Yep. Paul Ryan is basically sustained by the idea of him as a serious policy guy. His actual proposed policies are usually terrible.
 
2013-08-01 04:27:23 PM  

odinsposse: Yep. Paul Ryan is basically sustained by the idea of him as a serious policy guy. His actual proposed policies are usually terrible.


To be fair: terrible policies are kinds of policies.
 
2013-08-01 04:31:18 PM  
You mean the GOP held a symbolic vote on something they knew would never actually get implemented because in reality it's a terrible idea? I don't believe it.

Also, I love how Paul "the numbers guy" Ryan can't get support for his numbers. The Republicans are intellectually bankrupt, and they know it.
 
2013-08-01 04:31:31 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: odinsposse: Yep. Paul Ryan is basically sustained by the idea of him as a serious policy guy. His actual proposed policies are usually terrible.

To be fair: terrible policies are kinds of policies.


According to TFA, it's too vague and unspecific to even be called a budget or policy.
 
2013-08-01 04:33:14 PM  

nmrsnr: Also, I love how Paul "the numbers guy" Ryan can't get support for his numbers.


Were there even numbers?

www.cognitivedissident.org
 
2013-08-01 04:43:11 PM  
Obama got to Paul Ryan. That's the only explanation here.
 
2013-08-01 04:44:49 PM  
Wait - we've de-funded ACORN, NPR and Sesame Street and the budget STILL isn't balanced?

WTF???
 
2013-08-01 04:47:21 PM  

Diogenes: nmrsnr: Also, I love how Paul "the numbers guy" Ryan can't get support for his numbers.

Were there even numbers?

[www.cognitivedissident.org image 279x412]


As much as I love that, I think that was pre-Ryan. If I recall correctly Ryan's budget was to keep the sequester-level funding permanent, and then through magic and rainbows not feel any downsides to government services, except for social welfare programs, of course, while simultaneously seeing 5% GDP growth over the next decade to close the deficit and lower the debt.
 
2013-08-01 04:51:05 PM  

odinsposse: Yep. Paul Ryan is basically sustained by the idea of him as a serious policy guy.


I can't wait for his epic, "these are the reasons I'm awesome and you all are stupid parasite poopy-heads" speech when he finally goes Galt.
 
2013-08-01 04:53:09 PM  
There are 234 Republicans, of which probably roughly 10-20% are moderates. The moderates actually have some brains but no real clout. The gerrymandering has actually helped stall the GOP's momentum because it has forced certain district representatives to be more centrist - or else. That along with some old school GOP statesmen who live in solidly moderate areas of the country.

They'll vote for the Ryan plan on paper so they can go back during election season and say they like the Ryan plan but not certain parts of it (defending their district) and sure they'll vote against Obamacare so they can run ads and say they voted to repeal it 35 times...but they won't actually pass crazy because they will hurt their districts if they vote for it, and they want to get re-elected.

The Tea Partiers and hardliners, in GW Bush fashion, looks only at things in terms of black and white. No increases in spending, period. No tax increases, period. It's dangerously unrealistic, and completely not what the country needs, but they are strict corporate whores and they'll get primaried if things go poorly, and the sheeple in their districts don't care because they are morons. They outnumber the moderates considerably. I don't know the numbers but I'd guess it's closer to 80, and I suppose if you include all hardliners in the GOP it's maybe 150.

The House is a joke. If you vote for a GOP candidate in 2014 you are an idiot, I don't care how lame the Democrat seems on paper and in person.
 
2013-08-01 04:54:43 PM  

nmrsnr: As much as I love that, I think that was pre-Ryan


Oh, I know.  Larger pattern of behavior.

But if it is the same "budget" that was proposed during the campaign, it might be wise to stay away from specific numbers.
 
2013-08-01 04:59:56 PM  

nmrsnr: Diogenes: nmrsnr: Also, I love how Paul "the numbers guy" Ryan can't get support for his numbers.

Were there even numbers?

[www.cognitivedissident.org image 279x412]

As much as I love that, I think that was pre-Ryan. If I recall correctly Ryan's budget was to keep the sequester-level funding permanent, and then through magic and rainbows not feel any downsides to government services, except for social welfare programs, of course, while simultaneously seeing 5% GDP growth over the next decade to close the deficit and lower the debt.


Step 2 doesn't matter. Step 3 of his budget plan was Profit.

Spadababababababa Spadina Bus: odinsposse: Yep. Paul Ryan is basically sustained by the idea of him as a serious policy guy.

I can't wait for his epic, "these are the reasons I'm awesome and you all are stupid parasite poopy-heads" speech when he finally goes Galt.


I'd rather he went Dwyer.
 
2013-08-01 05:01:07 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-08-01 05:04:02 PM  

nmrsnr: Diogenes: nmrsnr: Also, I love how Paul "the numbers guy" Ryan can't get support for his numbers.

Were there even numbers?

[www.cognitivedissident.org image 279x412]

As much as I love that, I think that was pre-Ryan. If I recall correctly Ryan's budget was to keep the sequester-level funding permanent, and then through magic and rainbows not feel any downsides to government services, except for social welfare programs, of course, while simultaneously seeing 5% GDP growth over the next decade to close the deficit and lower the debt.


Don't forget that it would also lower unemployment to 2.8%, which is lower than it has ever been in recorded American history, and that revenue lost to tax cuts would be made up for by getting rid of mysterious and unnamed tax loopholes.

It's pretty much exactly the kind of fantastical thinking you would get if you asked a twenty year old who just got really into Ayn Rand how to fix the budget.
 
2013-08-01 05:11:59 PM  

vernonFL: Wait - we've de-funded ACORN, NPR and Sesame Street and the budget STILL isn't balanced?

WTF???


But remember, if you want to switch the nut selection in the Pentagon cafeteria to a slightly cheaper brand, you hate the troops.
 
2013-08-01 05:44:07 PM  
And Republicans learned that, for the sake of saving face while going back to their districts, the heavy cuts projected in the Ryan budget just weren't workable

GOP congressthing: 'ok people - congratulations!  I cut the budget and got rid of health care, education spending AND unemployment.  plus, I also made sure none of you have jobs anymore.  you can donate money to my staffers on the table to the left aaaand there's some crappy coffee in the back of the room.  thanks for coming!'

rank and file: 'Hey - wait!  you can't do that!  we got kids to feed!  jobs dude!  where's the jobs!?'

GOP congressthing: 'Abortion!'

rank and file: 'abortion?  WTF man...you just put me outta work!'  [loud angry voices]

GOP congressthing: [aside to chief of staff] *whispers* 'get paul ryan on the gotdamn phone right now!  that abortion crap ain't doing shiat!'
 
2013-08-01 05:48:34 PM  
Bro is skipping leg days. Needs to do his budget squats.
 
2013-08-01 05:48:44 PM  

odinsposse: Yep. Paul Ryan is basically sustained by the idea of him as a serious policy guy. His actual proposed policies are usually terrible.


HE IS A NUMBERS GUY

JUST LIKE

CRUZ HAS AN OFF-THE-CHARTS IQ AND IS BRILLIANT
 
2013-08-01 05:51:27 PM  

odinsposse: nmrsnr: Diogenes: nmrsnr: Also, I love how Paul "the numbers guy" Ryan can't get support for his numbers.

Were there even numbers?

[www.cognitivedissident.org image 279x412]

As much as I love that, I think that was pre-Ryan. If I recall correctly Ryan's budget was to keep the sequester-level funding permanent, and then through magic and rainbows not feel any downsides to government services, except for social welfare programs, of course, while simultaneously seeing 5% GDP growth over the next decade to close the deficit and lower the debt.

Don't forget that it would also lower unemployment to 2.8%, which is lower than it has ever been in recorded American history, and that revenue lost to tax cuts would be made up for by getting rid of mysterious and unnamed tax loopholes.

It's pretty much exactly the kind of fantastical thinking you would get if you asked a twenty year old who just got really into Ayn Rand how to fix the budget.


Didn't it also take advantage of the savings from Obamacare, even as repubs were screaming about how expensive it was?
 
2013-08-01 05:53:26 PM  
cincinnati.com
 
2013-08-01 05:53:31 PM  
Budget? What's a budget? I thought Obama didn't believe in budgets.
 
2013-08-01 05:53:41 PM  

nmrsnr: You mean the GOP held a symbolic vote on something they knew would never actually get implemented because in reality it's a terrible idea? I don't believe it.

Also, I love how Paul "the numbers guy" Ryan can't get support for his numbers. The Republicans are intellectually bankrupt, and they know it.


Does Paul Ryan actually write these budgets? Does he actually crunch the numbers and draft these bills or does he just take some derpy think thank budget verbatim and introduce it on the House floor?

I find it hard to believe he does any number crunching at all.
 
2013-08-01 05:54:48 PM  
The guy was going to massively change the budget without raising taxes or cutting defense spending. Eventually, people were going to realize that meant gutting damn near everything else. And, surprisingly, that is not a winning electoral strategy.
 
2013-08-01 05:55:47 PM  

Testiclaw: odinsposse: nmrsnr: Diogenes: nmrsnr: Also, I love how Paul "the numbers guy" Ryan can't get support for his numbers.

Were there even numbers?

[www.cognitivedissident.org image 279x412]

As much as I love that, I think that was pre-Ryan. If I recall correctly Ryan's budget was to keep the sequester-level funding permanent, and then through magic and rainbows not feel any downsides to government services, except for social welfare programs, of course, while simultaneously seeing 5% GDP growth over the next decade to close the deficit and lower the debt.

Don't forget that it would also lower unemployment to 2.8%, which is lower than it has ever been in recorded American history, and that revenue lost to tax cuts would be made up for by getting rid of mysterious and unnamed tax loopholes.

It's pretty much exactly the kind of fantastical thinking you would get if you asked a twenty year old who just got really into Ayn Rand how to fix the budget.

Didn't it also take advantage of the savings from Obamacare, even as repubs were screaming about how expensive it was?


He keeps all of the tax increases and medicare cuts but then cut the whole part about giving people health care with that money.
 
2013-08-01 05:56:15 PM  
Oh, there's a big surprise! That's an incredible - I think I'm going to have a heart attack and die of not surprise!
 
2013-08-01 05:57:23 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-08-01 05:59:34 PM  

odinsposse: Testiclaw: odinsposse: nmrsnr: Diogenes: nmrsnr: Also, I love how Paul "the numbers guy" Ryan can't get support for his numbers.

Were there even numbers?

[www.cognitivedissident.org image 279x412]

As much as I love that, I think that was pre-Ryan. If I recall correctly Ryan's budget was to keep the sequester-level funding permanent, and then through magic and rainbows not feel any downsides to government services, except for social welfare programs, of course, while simultaneously seeing 5% GDP growth over the next decade to close the deficit and lower the debt.

Don't forget that it would also lower unemployment to 2.8%, which is lower than it has ever been in recorded American history, and that revenue lost to tax cuts would be made up for by getting rid of mysterious and unnamed tax loopholes.

It's pretty much exactly the kind of fantastical thinking you would get if you asked a twenty year old who just got really into Ayn Rand how to fix the budget.

Didn't it also take advantage of the savings from Obamacare, even as repubs were screaming about how expensive it was?

He keeps all of the tax increases and medicare cuts but then cut the whole part about giving people health care with that money.


What a dickwidget.
 
2013-08-01 06:01:44 PM  
sequestration  is the stupidest idea ever.   it needs to be repealed but its not gonna happen as the GOP won't admit it was wrong.
 
2013-08-01 06:04:58 PM  

Etchy333: vernonFL: Wait - we've de-funded ACORN, NPR and Sesame Street and the budget STILL isn't balanced?

WTF???

But remember, if you want to switch the nut selection in the Pentagon cafeteria to a slightly cheaper brand, you hate the troops.


Um not really if you cut funding for a Jet Fighter that the Air Force doesn't want you hate the troops, however if you don't fund health care for veterans, don't give the troops adequate armor, either body or vehicle, you can still be in support of the troops.  As Long as you are a Republican of coures.
 
2013-08-01 06:08:23 PM  

Aristocles: Budget? What's a budget? I thought Obama didn't believe in budgets.


The Senate and House passed a budget the Republicans have REFUSED to bring it forward to be reconciled in a conference committee.

I guess you just like to lie.
 
2013-08-01 06:11:10 PM  

Aristocles: Budget? What's a budget? I thought Obama didn't believe in budgets.


Umm here is a little reality for you:

GOP's stall tactic on the budget
Now, more than 100 days later, Republican leaders refuse to allow us to even start a budget conference for which we could work to bridge the divide between the House and Senate budgets. And remember, this comes after Republicans spent the past two years endlessly criticizing the Senate for not passing a budget.

The Republicans have stopped the budget process because they would rather use threats of government shutdown.
 
2013-08-01 06:11:26 PM  
Thud? I thought crap hit with a splat?
 
2013-08-01 06:14:17 PM  
so someone finally opened Ryans budget and found out it was actually just an attractive cover over the Tea Party Coloring Book for Kids?

we're screwed America.
 
2013-08-01 06:16:02 PM  

vernonFL: Wait - we've de-funded ACORN, NPR and Sesame Street and the budget STILL isn't balanced?

WTF???


Idiot. You can't balance the budget while we're still giving $500 trillion to Planned Parenthood every week.
 
2013-08-01 06:23:58 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: diot. You can't balance the budget while we're still giving $500 trillion to Planned Parenthood every week.


The abortionplex is money well spent.
 
2013-08-01 06:29:21 PM  

Corvus: Aristocles: Budget? What's a budget? I thought Obama didn't believe in budgets.

Umm here is a little reality for you:

GOP's stall tactic on the budget
Now, more than 100 days later, Republican leaders refuse to allow us to even start a budget conference for which we could work to bridge the divide between the House and Senate budgets. And remember, this comes after Republicans spent the past two years endlessly criticizing the Senate for not passing a budget.

The Republicans have stopped the budget process because they would rather use threats of government shutdown.


Thanks for the link... Got anything from a GOP Senator? You know, to balance things out.
 
2013-08-01 06:32:12 PM  
The GOP's Entire Budget Strategy Collapsed

There's a strategy?
 
2013-08-01 06:44:55 PM  
Oh C'mon, I wanted to see "Turtle Boy" filibuster his own bill again!
 
2013-08-01 06:45:55 PM  

Heraclitus: Oh C'mon, I wanted to see "Turtle Boy" filibuster his own bill again!


He really is the shiattest one of the X men isn't he. Worst mutant power ever.
 
2013-08-01 06:46:38 PM  

Aristocles: Corvus: Aristocles: Budget? What's a budget? I thought Obama didn't believe in budgets.

Umm here is a little reality for you:

GOP's stall tactic on the budget
Now, more than 100 days later, Republican leaders refuse to allow us to even start a budget conference for which we could work to bridge the divide between the House and Senate budgets. And remember, this comes after Republicans spent the past two years endlessly criticizing the Senate for not passing a budget.

The Republicans have stopped the budget process because they would rather use threats of government shutdown.

Thanks for the link... Got anything from a GOP Senator? You know, to balance things out.


It's kinda hard to balance facts.  Sorry troll.
 
2013-08-01 06:52:33 PM  
"Yeah, let's cut, cut, cut services! Wait, just not in my district," said every Republican in the House.
 
2013-08-01 06:54:46 PM  

Heraclitus: Oh C'mon, I wanted to see "Turtle Boy" filibuster his own bill again!


Don't worry while not his own bill he did filibuster the senate version of the THUD bill, because of course he did.
 
2013-08-01 06:59:03 PM  

Aristocles: Corvus: Aristocles: Budget? What's a budget? I thought Obama didn't believe in budgets.

Umm here is a little reality for you:

GOP's stall tactic on the budget
Now, more than 100 days later, Republican leaders refuse to allow us to even start a budget conference for which we could work to bridge the divide between the House and Senate budgets. And remember, this comes after Republicans spent the past two years endlessly criticizing the Senate for not passing a budget.

The Republicans have stopped the budget process because they would rather use threats of government shutdown.

Thanks for the link... Got anything from a GOP Senator? You know, to balance things out.


No, because they have no intention to pass the budget They would rather fark the economy and destroy the country than admit that Obama or any Democrat had a good idea or did something right.
 
2013-08-01 06:59:18 PM  

bdub77: The House is a joke. If you vote for a GOP candidate in 2014 you are an idiot, I don't care how lame the Democrat seems on paper and in person.


I don't vote GOP for the same reason I don't want my veal cooked by a vegan PETA member.
 
2013-08-01 06:59:35 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: odinsposse: Yep. Paul Ryan is basically sustained by the idea of him as a serious policy guy. His actual proposed policies are usually terrible.

To be fair: terrible policies are kinds of policies.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-08-01 07:05:27 PM  

Corvus: Aristocles: Budget? What's a budget? I thought Obama didn't believe in budgets.

Umm here is a little reality for you:

GOP's stall tactic on the budget
Now, more than 100 days later, Republican leaders refuse to allow us to even start a budget conference for which we could work to bridge the divide between the House and Senate budgets. And remember, this comes after Republicans spent the past two years endlessly criticizing the Senate for not passing a budget.

The Republicans have stopped the budget process because they would rather use threats of government shutdown.


Congratulations, he'll NEVER respond to that. If he does, it will be more spin with zero citations.

/prove me wrong, troll!
//prove me wrooooooooong
 
2013-08-01 07:08:09 PM  
i42.tinypic.com
 
2013-08-01 07:10:32 PM  

Corvus: Aristocles: Budget? What's a budget? I thought Obama didn't believe in budgets.

Umm here is a little reality for you:

GOP's stall tactic on the budget
Now, more than 100 days later, Republican leaders refuse to allow us to even start a budget conference for which we could work to bridge the divide between the House and Senate budgets. And remember, this comes after Republicans spent the past two years endlessly criticizing the Senate for not passing a budget.

The Republicans have stopped the budget process because they would rather use threats of government shutdown.


Proof that government is bad and dems are wrong all the time.  Vote GOP
 
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