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(The News & Observer (NC))   North Carolina cuts $117 million from their school budgets because of socalizim. Immediately turn to federal government for $30 million for education   (newsobserver.com) divider line 107
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2013-08-01 04:07:53 PM
NC is giving it's neighbor to the north (my state) a run for it's money for derpiest state. Here we just have a corrupt Governor (and family), a kooky Cuccinelli who wants to be Governor, an anti-gay and anti-woman statehouse, and state sponsored rape via transvaginal wands. Lately NC has been trying to top us. We must fend them off!
 
2013-08-01 04:30:20 PM
Way to make me proud, NC.
 
2013-08-01 05:12:54 PM
Which state will be the first to get rid of all public schools, yet still require attendance? It'll make the lucky charter school company very rich, much like the health insurance companies.
 
2013-08-01 05:28:23 PM
Sigh.
 
2013-08-01 05:29:31 PM
FTA:
teachers with bachelor's degrees reach $40,000 salaries after 15 years


Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/01/3075005/mccrory-backs-nc-schoo l s-spending.html#storylink=cpy
Wow.
 
2013-08-01 05:33:08 PM
Generally, teachers with bachelor's degrees reach $40,000 salaries after 15 years of experience. Teachers who earned master's degrees could reach $40,000 after 10 years, but the new state budget eliminates that pay boost.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/01/3075005/mccrory-backs-nc-schoo l s-spending.html#storylink=cpy
Yep, clearly overpaid leeches on society - I can't imagine why the place isnt simply swamped with eager, highly educated people willing to throw themselves on the sword of profits and lower taxes for businesses.
 
2013-08-01 05:36:42 PM
Teachers who earned master's degrees could reach $40,000 after 10 years

Why the fark would you get a master's degree for a job that pays less then $40,000.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/01/3075005/mccrory-backs-nc-schoo l s-spending.html#storylink
 
2013-08-01 05:37:24 PM

Walker: NC is giving it's neighbor to the north (my state) a run for it's money for derpiest state. Here we just have a corrupt Governor (and family), a kooky Cuccinelli who wants to be Governor, an anti-gay and anti-woman statehouse, and state sponsored rape via transvaginal wands. Lately NC has been trying to top us. We must fend them off!


encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com

We Kansans look down at you from the top of Derp Mountain and laugh. When you gaze long into Brownback, Brownback also gazes into you.
 
2013-08-01 05:38:06 PM
That's like evil warlord shiat. Roll into town, steal everyone's food, then have the survivors compete for scraps for your own amusement.
 
2013-08-01 05:38:35 PM
It's hard to believe this state went for Obama in 2008. What changed since then? Did all the Democrats move away, or something?
 
2013-08-01 05:39:54 PM

MSFT: FTA:
teachers with bachelor's degrees reach $40,000 salaries after 15 years


Yeah I have a buddy that has a Masters degree and is a teacher in NC. He is paid jack and shiat. Some of the crap I hear about the school system back there makes me shudder.
 
2013-08-01 05:43:45 PM

qorkfiend: It's hard to believe this state went for Obama in 2008. What changed since then? Did all the Democrats move away, or something?


Off-year elections and old white people happened.
 
2013-08-01 05:44:14 PM
$40,000 after 15 years experience with a Bachelor's degree or 10 years with a Master's degree? That is pathetic... No wonder they''re having problems!
 
2013-08-01 05:49:19 PM

qorkfiend: It's hard to believe this state went for Obama in 2008. What changed since then? Did all the Democrats move away, or something?


They just didn't vote in the same numbers in 2010 as they did in 2008. As a result, NC GOP gains both houses of the state legislature (complete with veto-proof majority) and eventually the governor's office. And now, they're herpin' and derpin' as if there was no tomorrow, seemingly for no purpose except sticking it to the libs and/or punishing the people who, in 2008, voted for a ni...

...a bigger threat to America than Al Qaeda, the USSR, the Nazis and Skeletor combined.
 
2013-08-01 05:52:45 PM

themindiswatching: Which state will be the first to get rid of all public schools, yet still require attendance? It'll make the lucky charter school company very rich, much like the health insurance companies.


That's the whole GOP deal - if the government is spending money on something, a private business MUST take a cut. Even if there's no benefit to the taxpayer.

qorkfiend: It's hard to believe this state went for Obama in 2008. What changed since then? Did all the Democrats move away, or something?


Gerrymandering.
 
2013-08-01 05:55:30 PM

MSFT: FTA:
teachers with bachelor's degrees reach $40,000 salaries after 15 years


Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/01/3075005/mccrory-backs-nc-schoo l s-spending.html#storylink=cpy
Wow.


WTF?  Damn...I'd be homeless if I was paid that poorly here in Southern California.  Of course, I'm about 12 years deep into my teaching career, with a masters degree, and am making about $57,000 (which isn't very good given the cost-of-living here).  But damn...$40,000 after 15 years?  Fark that.

I hope every decent teacher moves out of that state ASAP.  Let's play out this little GOP game of chicken and see who wins.
 
2013-08-01 06:01:47 PM

SubBass49: MSFT: FTA:
teachers with bachelor's degrees reach $40,000 salaries after 15 years


Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/01/3075005/mccrory-backs-nc-schoo l s-spending.html#storylink=cpy
Wow.

WTF?  Damn...I'd be homeless if I was paid that poorly here in Southern California.  Of course, I'm about 12 years deep into my teaching career, with a masters degree, and am making about $57,000 (which isn't very good given the cost-of-living here).  But damn...$40,000 after 15 years?  Fark that.

I hope every decent teacher moves out of that state ASAP.  Let's play out this little GOP game of chicken and see who wins.


But they don't like public education. They'd be happy with none at all. Homeschooleratin' fer evryone!
 
2013-08-01 06:03:48 PM

MSFT: FTA:
teachers with bachelor's degrees reach $40,000 salaries after 15 years


Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/01/3075005/mccrory-backs-nc-schoo l s-spending.html#storylink=cpy
Wow.


My daughter is in what's been called the best school system in NC, Chapel Hill, where we voted ourselves extra taxes that increases the school budget by about 50%.  You know where you can find teachers after work?  Serving up coffee as a barista or moonlighting at the Apple store, the greed bastards.

Not only that, but the legislature made significant changes to charter schools:

* Charter school teachers no longer need a teaching certificate or a college degree.
* Charter schools do not have to run background checks before hiring teachers

Who the hell wants their kids to be taught by teachers with no qualifications and who haven't undergone a background check at the very least?  WTF?
 
2013-08-01 06:10:50 PM
Liberal teachers always want to preach how the federal government solves all problems. The Feds might as well fund the brainwashing.
/glad to see the talking point of "someone working 9 months a year is grossed underpaid" is covered
 
2013-08-01 06:13:10 PM

czei: Who the hell wants their kids to be taught by teachers with no qualifications and who haven't undergone a background check at the very least? WTF?


images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-08-01 06:18:58 PM
The feds should say no.  fark'em.  They want to slash their education budget, fine.  Way to win that race to the bottom.
 
2013-08-01 06:20:47 PM

DubyaHater: /glad to see the talking point of "someone working 9 months a year is grossed underpaid" is covered


You get what you pay for.  And teachers work a lot of days when students aren't in the classroom.
 
2013-08-01 06:21:49 PM

Evil High Priest: SubBass49: MSFT: FTA:
teachers with bachelor's degrees reach $40,000 salaries after 15 years


Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/01/3075005/mccrory-backs-nc-schoo l s-spending.html#storylink=cpy
Wow.

WTF?  Damn...I'd be homeless if I was paid that poorly here in Southern California.  Of course, I'm about 12 years deep into my teaching career, with a masters degree, and am making about $57,000 (which isn't very good given the cost-of-living here).  But damn...$40,000 after 15 years?  Fark that.

I hope every decent teacher moves out of that state ASAP.  Let's play out this little GOP game of chicken and see who wins.

But they don't like public education. They'd be happy with none at all. Homeschooleratin' fer evryone!


Very true, but I want some folks to call their hand.  Let the shiat play out for a decade or so.  All decent teachers leave the state immediately.  Let's fill the schools with amateurs & TFA program interns.  Let's watch what they thought were shiatty outcomes get even shiattier.  I WANT someone to finally show what will happen if the GOP gets it's way in regards to education so we can be done with that bullshiat permanently.
 
2013-08-01 06:26:03 PM
My sister is a teacher in North Carolina, so she's not getting a kick out of this.  In fact, she was one of the teachers who went to protest in Raleigh.  She lives with our parents because she can't afford to support herself on the paycheck that she gets every month, because she's got $83,000 in student loan debt to pay off.

So suffice to say, these asshole legislators can kiss my lily white ass.
 
2013-08-01 06:26:38 PM

themindiswatching: Which state will be the first to get rid of all public schools, yet still require attendance? It'll make the lucky charter school company very rich, much like the health insurance companies.


Probably Ohio; their governor just recently defunded their public education system, in fact. Don't know how they are handling that.
 
2013-08-01 06:31:50 PM

SubBass49: Very true, but I want some folks to call their hand.  Let the shiat play out for a decade or so.  All decent teachers leave the state immediately.  Let's fill the schools with amateurs & TFA program interns.  Let's watch what they thought were shiatty outcomes get even shiattier.  I WANT someone to finally show what will happen if the GOP gets it's way in regards to education so we can be done with that bullshiat permanently.


It wouldn't work though. Not enough people have the attention span and critical thinking skills to see such a causation long term. By the time a generation of moronic troglodytes comes through, they'll just be blaming all the problems an education desert caused on minorities or television or whatever.
 
2013-08-01 06:32:25 PM

King Something: qorkfiend: It's hard to believe this state went for Obama in 2008. What changed since then? Did all the Democrats move away, or something?

They just didn't vote in the same numbers in 2010 as they did in 2008. As a result, NC GOP gains both houses of the state legislature (complete with veto-proof majority) and eventually the governor's office. And now, they're herpin' and derpin' as if there was no tomorrow, seemingly for no purpose except sticking it to the libs and/or punishing the people who, in 2008, voted for a ni...




The 2010 election was the usual small percentage of voters turning out, and the conservatives ran a well funded, anti Obama, anti Democrat campaign at all levels of state government. They also promised they'd turn around the state's economy if they were elected.

The Republicans gained a strong majority in both state houses that year, but not quite a veto proof majority. The state elected a Democrat governor that year too, so they had to behave themselves or she would veto their bills. One thing she couldn't stop though, was the legislature gerrymandering the state and Congressional districts. With that done, the 2012 election ended up in a landslide for conservatives, giving them a dominating majority everywhere. That's when they started with their true agenda, overturning everything they could find to turn this state into a conservative hellhole.

Oh and we're still waiting for those jobs they promised us.
 
2013-08-01 06:34:27 PM

qorkfiend: It's hard to believe this state went for Obama in 2008. What changed since then? Did all the Democrats move away, or something?


Wouldn't you?
 
2013-08-01 06:35:59 PM

SubBass49: Evil High Priest: SubBass49: MSFT: FTA:
teachers with bachelor's degrees reach $40,000 salaries after 15 years


Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/01/3075005/mccrory-backs-nc-schoo l s-spending.html#storylink=cpy
Wow.

WTF?  Damn...I'd be homeless if I was paid that poorly here in Southern California.  Of course, I'm about 12 years deep into my teaching career, with a masters degree, and am making about $57,000 (which isn't very good given the cost-of-living here).  But damn...$40,000 after 15 years?  Fark that.

I hope every decent teacher moves out of that state ASAP.  Let's play out this little GOP game of chicken and see who wins.

But they don't like public education. They'd be happy with none at all. Homeschooleratin' fer evryone!

Very true, but I want some folks to call their hand.  Let the shiat play out for a decade or so.  All decent teachers leave the state immediately.  Let's fill the schools with amateurs & TFA program interns.  Let's watch what they thought were shiatty outcomes get even shiattier.  I WANT someone to finally show what will happen if the GOP gets it's way in regards to education so we can be done with that bullshiat permanently.


Aren't we seeing that happen already in Wisconsin?

No matter how bad you make things, you can never, ever, be conservative enough.
 
2013-08-01 06:37:43 PM

plewis: The feds should say no.  fark'em.  They want to slash their education budget, fine.  Way to win that race to the bottom.

. Well, if Obama hadn't done the whole 'Race to the Top' thing, the GOP wouldn't have been forced to race to the bottom. Obama forced their hand in this.
 
2013-08-01 06:38:30 PM
But if we pay teachers a decent wage, we'll attract  people who aren't called to teach!
 
2013-08-01 06:42:05 PM

SubBass49: MSFT: FTA:
teachers with bachelor's degrees reach $40,000 salaries after 15 years


Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/01/3075005/mccrory-backs-nc-schoo l s-spending.html#storylink=cpy
Wow.

WTF?  Damn...I'd be homeless if I was paid that poorly here in Southern California.  Of course, I'm about 12 years deep into my teaching career, with a masters degree, and am making about $57,000 (which isn't very good given the cost-of-living here).  But damn...$40,000 after 15 years?  Fark that.

I hope every decent teacher moves out of that state ASAP.  Let's play out this little GOP game of chicken and see who wins.


But at that salary they will be getting some of those sweet tax cuts.
 
2013-08-01 06:43:25 PM
So, how long until the Carolinas bring back being able to own and use black people like farm machinery?
 
2013-08-01 06:44:10 PM
I love how the "capitalist" conservatives just love to abandon their principles when it comes to education.

You people are about as capitalist as Eugene Debs.
 
2013-08-01 06:57:58 PM

Xetal: $40,000 after 15 years experience with a Bachelor's degree or 10 years with a Master's degree? That is pathetic... No wonder they''re having problems!


Because they have no teachers union.

They'll cut their own budgets, then ask the federal government for help.

That federal money will come from New Jersey tax payers, who already pay high property taxes to support their own well paid teachers and high performing schools.

So we'll basically end up supporting both states.

/we should be two countries
 
2013-08-01 07:04:46 PM

Apik0r0s: So, how long until the Carolinas bring back being able to own and use black people like farm machinery?


Next week.  Right after women are disenfranchised.
 
2013-08-01 07:17:21 PM

Walker: NC is giving it's neighbor to the north (my state) a run for it's money for derpiest state. Here we just have a corrupt Governor (and family), a kooky Cuccinelli who wants to be Governor, an anti-gay and anti-woman statehouse, and state sponsored rape via transvaginal wands. Lately NC has been trying to top us. We must fend them off!


Fark that. There are enough Cuccinelli and Obenshain signs in my part of Prince William County already, don't encourage them to crank up the derp.

/Near the Loudoun County line... technically Haymarket, but closer to Aldie.
 
2013-08-01 07:18:43 PM

SubBass49: MSFT: FTA:
teachers with bachelor's degrees reach $40,000 salaries after 15 years


Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/01/3075005/mccrory-backs-nc-schoo l s-spending.html#storylink=cpy
Wow.

WTF?  Damn...I'd be homeless if I was paid that poorly here in Southern California.  Of course, I'm about 12 years deep into my teaching career, with a masters degree, and am making about $57,000 (which isn't very good given the cost-of-living here).  But damn...$40,000 after 15 years?  Fark that.

I hope every decent teacher moves out of that state ASAP.  Let's play out this little GOP game of chicken and see who wins.


There are 10 states with lower average teacher salary than NC. I work in a public school in SD. We're dead last in the nation at $7,000/yr. lower than NC. I have an engineering degree and have worked here for 13 years, and I make just over $40k as the IT director.
 
2013-08-01 07:19:30 PM

qorkfiend: It's hard to believe this state went for Obama in 2008. What changed since then? Did all the Democrats move away, or something?


Redistricting happened.
 
2013-08-01 07:20:33 PM

Xetal: $40,000 after 15 years experience with a Bachelor's degree or 10 years with a Master's degree? That is pathetic... No wonder they''re having problems!


Come to WV. I work for the state AG Dept. MS in entomology and have been there since '99. Gross at $37,600.

Bennies aren't bad, tho'. And the cost of living isn't too high.
 
2013-08-01 07:23:00 PM

SubBass49: MSFT: FTA:
teachers with bachelor's degrees reach $40,000 salaries after 15 years


Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/01/3075005/mccrory-backs-nc-schoo l s-spending.html#storylink=cpy
Wow.

WTF?  Damn...I'd be homeless if I was paid that poorly here in Southern California.  Of course, I'm about 12 years deep into my teaching career, with a masters degree, and am making about $57,000 (which isn't very good given the cost-of-living here).  But damn...$40,000 after 15 years?  Fark that.

I hope every decent teacher moves out of that state ASAP.  Let's play out this little GOP game of chicken and see who wins.




I think that's already happened...
 
2013-08-01 07:25:59 PM

HempHead: SubBass49: MSFT: FTA:
teachers with bachelor's degrees reach $40,000 salaries after 15 years


Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/01/3075005/mccrory-backs-nc-schoo l s-spending.html#storylink=cpy
Wow.

WTF?  Damn...I'd be homeless if I was paid that poorly here in Southern California.  Of course, I'm about 12 years deep into my teaching career, with a masters degree, and am making about $57,000 (which isn't very good given the cost-of-living here).  But damn...$40,000 after 15 years?  Fark that.

I hope every decent teacher moves out of that state ASAP.  Let's play out this little GOP game of chicken and see who wins.



I think that's already happened...


Yeah, and my coont of an ex-wife moved our kid INTO the state. Nice to know that I have no choice in whether or not my daughter is raised a farking moron.
 
2013-08-01 07:38:09 PM
Get rid of this overreach by government where it is involved in education AT ALL.

Outcome:
Federal spending on education: 0
State spending on Education: 0

Everyone happy - problem solved!
 
2013-08-01 07:45:05 PM

Bendal: King Something: qorkfiend: It's hard to believe this state went for Obama in 2008. What changed since then? Did all the Democrats move away, or something?

They just didn't vote in the same numbers in 2010 as they did in 2008. As a result, NC GOP gains both houses of the state legislature (complete with veto-proof majority) and eventually the governor's office. And now, they're herpin' and derpin' as if there was no tomorrow, seemingly for no purpose except sticking it to the libs and/or punishing the people who, in 2008, voted for a ni...

The 2010 election was the usual small percentage of voters turning out, and the conservatives ran a well funded, anti Obama, anti Democrat campaign at all levels of state government. They also promised they'd turn around the state's economy if they were elected.

The Republicans gained a strong majority in both state houses that year, but not quite a veto proof majority. The state elected a Democrat governor that year too, so they had to behave themselves or she would veto their bills. One thing she couldn't stop though, was the legislature gerrymandering the state and Congressional districts. With that done, the 2012 election ended up in a landslide for conservatives, giving them a dominating majority everywhere. That's when they started with their true agenda, overturning everything they could find to turn this state into a conservative hellhole.

Oh and we're still waiting for those jobs they promised us.


Bev Purdue was elected in '08, not in 2010.  But her administration was a bit of a shiatshow; it didn't help that her predecessor was grossly incompetent except when he was ridiculously corrupt, but she didn't do a whole lot to fix the state's woes.  But she had a "D" by her name, and 2010 saw the first Republican majority in both halves of the General Assembly since Reconstruction.  And not just Republicans - the teatards backed up by Dick Army and the Koch Brothers' money, and right-wing media's lies.  And when she tried to stem the tide of their bullshiat, she couldn't do it.  She didn't even TRY to veto the bill Time-Warner paid for which banned municipal broadband (something that might have made the state VERY attractive to tech companies), she only put up a token resistance to their derpy 2011-12 budget, and she decided she wasn't going to run for re-election in January, after McCrory had several months' time to build a campaign.  As a result, there was no one to really run against the Republicans for the governor's office.

She REALLY hurt the Democrats down-ballot, and may have cost Obama a few dozen thousand votes (although I'm not sure if a competent candidate on the ballot would have resulted in the turnout necessary to keep NC from scoring for Rmoney).  Now, thanks to a combination of her ineptitude, years of Mike Sleazley's corruption, and the easily lied- and pandered-to mouth-breathers in rural parts of the state, we've got a steaming pile of garbage between Jones and Lane Streets.

/and FARK YOU to all of you wankstains that voted for Amendment One.  This is not the farking 19th century!
 
2013-08-01 07:45:08 PM

SevenizGud: Get rid of this overreach by government where it is involved in education AT ALL.

Outcome:
Federal spending on education: 0
State spending on Education: 0

Everyone happy - problem solved!


Everyone happy, just as in Idiocracy.
 
2013-08-01 08:01:56 PM

SevenizGud: Get rid of this overreach by government where it is involved in education AT ALL.

Outcome:
Federal spending on education: 0
State spending on Education: 0

Everyone happy - problem solved!


Until you get old and sick and no one can care for you because they're all dumb.
 
2013-08-01 08:23:29 PM
Who the fark needs to know how to read or do maths these days anyway.
 
2013-08-01 08:28:54 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Teachers who earned master's degrees could reach $40,000 after 10 years

Why the fark would you get a master's degree for a job that pays less then $40,000.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/01/3075005/mccrory-backs-nc-schoo l s-spending.html#storylink


Welcome to the world of basic scientific research.  7 years getting a phd then BAM post doc getting paid 38-43k and fighting for the chance to 10 years later get tenured for 70k/year.
 
2013-08-01 08:32:21 PM

HempHead: SubBass49: MSFT: FTA:
teachers with bachelor's degrees reach $40,000 salaries after 15 years


Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/01/3075005/mccrory-backs-nc-schoo l s-spending.html#storylink=cpy
Wow.

WTF?  Damn...I'd be homeless if I was paid that poorly here in Southern California.  Of course, I'm about 12 years deep into my teaching career, with a masters degree, and am making about $57,000 (which isn't very good given the cost-of-living here).  But damn...$40,000 after 15 years?  Fark that.

I hope every decent teacher moves out of that state ASAP.  Let's play out this little GOP game of chicken and see who wins.

I think that's already happened...


There are still a few of us here, for...reasons. Believe me, though - I'm getting the hell out at soon as it's feasible.
 
2013-08-01 08:43:01 PM

czei: MSFT: FTA:
teachers with bachelor's degrees reach $40,000 salaries after 15 years


Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/01/3075005/mccrory-backs-nc-schoo l s-spending.html#storylink=cpy
Wow.

My daughter is in what's been called the best school system in NC, Chapel Hill, where we voted ourselves extra taxes that increases the school budget by about 50%.  You know where you can find teachers after work?  Serving up coffee as a barista or moonlighting at the Apple store, the greed bastards.

Not only that, but the legislature made significant changes to charter schools:

* Charter school teachers no longer need a teaching certificate or a college degree.
* Charter schools do not have to run background checks before hiring teachers

Who the hell wants their kids to be taught by teachers with no qualifications and who haven't undergone a background check at the very least?  WTF?


So let me see. Now you can open a charter school and since you don't have to worry about having teachers with degrees or certificates, you can pay somebody $12/hr to teach. How much do the charter schools get per student? And how do you go about getting approved to start a charter school? Might move to NC if the money is right. Xeroxed text books for all.
 
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