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2013-08-01 09:52:04 AM
They'll call him on his Obamaphone to tell him he's under arrest.
 
2013-08-01 10:01:58 AM
But because welfare eligibility has expanded under the Obama administration, more people than ever before are qualified to receive "free" cell-phone service - part of the reason why Lifeline mobiles have become commonly known as Obamaphones.

That has nothing to do with why they're being called "Obamaphones," and you know it.
 
2013-08-01 10:04:53 AM
Better luck to you with this headline.
 
2013-08-01 10:22:52 AM
I thought they were Reagan phones.
 
2013-08-01 10:25:58 AM

oldernell: I thought they were Reagan phones.


They were actually called Bush Phones for a little while, but let's face it, which rolls off the tongue better, Bush Phone or Obamaphone?
 
2013-08-01 10:38:36 AM
I am glad to see this young man stand shoulder-to-shoulder with the likes of Snowden and reveal once and for all the rampant douche-baggery that is being foisted on the American people under the auspices of "whistle-blowing".
 
2013-08-01 11:09:26 AM

Old_Chief_Scott: Bush Phone


Is that like the Batphone in a whore house?
 
2013-08-01 11:10:48 AM
There have been news reports about recipients flaunting dozens of subsidized phones.
"And WE published them, so you KNOW they're true."
 
2013-08-01 11:11:05 AM

Lucky LaRue: I am glad to see this young man stand shoulder-to-shoulder with the likes of Snowden and reveal once and for all the rampant douche-baggery that is being foisted on the American people under the auspices of "whistle-blowing".


so you are OK with people committing fraud to get what they want?
 
2013-08-01 11:13:04 AM

ManateeGag: Lucky LaRue: I am glad to see this young man stand shoulder-to-shoulder with the likes of Snowden and reveal once and for all the rampant douche-baggery that is being foisted on the American people under the auspices of "whistle-blowing".

so you are OK with people committing fraud to get what they want?


The conservative reaction to any allegation of government fraud is never "Fix it". It's "Burn it down".

This article is red meat for people who hate Obama, hate Obama voters, and hate black people. They want the Lifeline program shut down and all of the phones turned off.
 
2013-08-01 11:35:43 AM

ManateeGag: Lucky LaRue: I am glad to see this young man stand shoulder-to-shoulder with the likes of Snowden and reveal once and for all the rampant douche-baggery that is being foisted on the American people under the auspices of "whistle-blowing".

so you are OK with people committing fraud to get what they want?


I think you misread his intentions.
 
2013-08-01 11:38:55 AM

kingoomieiii: ManateeGag: Lucky LaRue: I am glad to see this young man stand shoulder-to-shoulder with the likes of Snowden and reveal once and for all the rampant douche-baggery that is being foisted on the American people under the auspices of "whistle-blowing".

so you are OK with people committing fraud to get what they want?

The conservative reaction to any allegation of government fraud is never "Fix it". It's "Burn it down".

This article is red meat for people who hate Obama, hate Obama voters, and hate black people. They want the Lifeline program shut down and all of the phones turned off.


do they realize that the Lifeline program also helps a lot of old people living on fixed incomes?
 
2013-08-01 12:07:45 PM
Goddamn do these people hate the poor.

How can you expend so much of your energy hating the powerless?
 
2013-08-01 12:27:52 PM

sigdiamond2000: Goddamn do these people hate the poor.

How can you expend so much of your energy hating the powerless?


It keeps the proles from realizing exactly how badly that they're getting screwed...
 
2013-08-01 12:32:52 PM

sigdiamond2000: Goddamn do these people hate the poor.

How can you expend so much of your energy hating the powerless?


Well, when you openly hate the powerful they tend to squash you.
 
2013-08-01 12:35:03 PM
Is this the same guy that committed voter fraud to show that it could be done?
 
2013-08-01 12:35:42 PM

James!: ManateeGag: Lucky LaRue: I am glad to see this young man stand shoulder-to-shoulder with the likes of Snowden and reveal once and for all the rampant douche-baggery that is being foisted on the American people under the auspices of "whistle-blowing".

so you are OK with people committing fraud to get what they want?

I think you misread his intentions.


Thank you!
 
2013-08-01 12:43:37 PM

hubiestubert: sigdiamond2000: Goddamn do these people hate the poor.

How can you expend so much of your energy hating the powerless?

It keeps the proles from realizing exactly how badly that they're getting screwed...


THEY HAVE IT SO WELL, THE POOR
 
2013-08-01 12:44:06 PM
The poor should have NOTHING!
 
2013-08-01 12:46:35 PM
I REALLY hate to agree with NRO, but if the phone program is being abused, then someone should do something about it.

IF this article is true, there is little to no oversight and they really are just handing out phones regardless of whether people qualifiy for them, and that is wrong and it should be addressed.
 
2013-08-01 12:46:53 PM

FarkedOver: The poor should have NOTHING!


It is unfair to the Job Creators that they are not being taxed on that nothing.
 
2013-08-01 12:47:12 PM

ManateeGag: do they realize that the Lifeline program also helps a lot of old people living on fixed incomes?


rural old people. the republicans are playing with fire- their base is fine with getting rid of stuff for OTHER people. But you start cutting a program they "earned" and watch what happens.

/everyone else is a freeloader!
 
2013-08-01 12:47:27 PM
ALright! Another NRO article! Thanks, Fark.com!
 
2013-08-01 12:47:54 PM
There's a government program to get these?!?
thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp

Let me play you the song of my people:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxLB70G-tRY
 
2013-08-01 12:48:57 PM

vernonFL: I REALLY hate to agree with NRO, but if the phone program is being abused, then someone should do something about it.

IF this article is true, there is little to no oversight and they really are just handing out phones regardless of whether people qualifiy for them, and that is wrong and it should be addressed.


Correct.  If 5% of the program results in fraud, it should be burned to the ground not with a match but perhaps an ICBM.

This is what the GOP actually believes.
 
2013-08-01 12:49:49 PM

Jackson Herring: hubiestubert: sigdiamond2000: Goddamn do these people hate the poor.

How can you expend so much of your energy hating the powerless?

It keeps the proles from realizing exactly how badly that they're getting screwed...

THEY HAVE IT SO WELL, THE POOR


So many Lucky Duckies...
 
2013-08-01 12:49:57 PM

sigdiamond2000: Goddamn do these people hate the poor.

How can you expend so much of your energy hating the powerless?


If a persons taxes are going to somebody else, be they rich or poor, and you don't think it's a justifiable transfer (for instance, for subsidized cell phones or whatever), it makes complete sense to oppose it. It doesn't amount to "hating the poor", it's just hating your money being taken and wasted.
 
2013-08-01 12:50:10 PM

Old_Chief_Scott: oldernell: I thought they were Reagan phones.

They were actually called Bush Phones for a little while, but let's face it, which rolls off the tongue better, Bush Phone or Obamaphone?


Obama does have a really good name for concatenation into words. Not too many consonants and similar vowels. The three equal beats are just begging for another syllable to round things off to 4/4 time. The "O-a-a-thing" pattern just works well.
 
2013-08-01 12:51:44 PM

Nuclear Monk: There's a government program to get these?!?
[thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp image 300x300]

Let me play you the song of my people:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxLB70G-tRY


I have never seen those before - I must get some for the kids of the obnoxious couple down the block. Anonymously.
 
2013-08-01 12:52:04 PM

Thrag: Old_Chief_Scott: oldernell: I thought they were Reagan phones.

They were actually called Bush Phones for a little while, but let's face it, which rolls off the tongue better, Bush Phone or Obamaphone?

Obama does have a really good name for concatenation into words. Not too many consonants and similar vowels. The three equal beats are just begging for another syllable to round things off to 4/4 time. The "O-a-a-thing" pattern just works well.


Thanks, Obamathrag.
 
2013-08-01 12:52:25 PM
Maybe there's a disconnect between the corporate offices of wireless providers and their men on the street; a letter I later received from Assurance mentioned that "a household is not permitted to receive Lifeline benefits from multiple providers. Violation of the one-per-household rule constitutes a violation of federal rules and will result in de-enrollment from the Lifeline program and potentially prosecution by the United States government."

But the wireless providers aren't doing much due diligence, if my experience is indicative.


Wow, this sounds like a real problem with the government and not at all a problem with the wireless companies. I assume the author is advocating for the government to run the entire program?
 
2013-08-01 12:52:51 PM

ManateeGag: Old_Chief_Scott: Bush Phone

Is that like the Batphone in a whore house?


Heh. Agent Smart had the shoe phone, Agent 99 had the bush phone.

Man, when we were kids, all the boys had a thing for Barbara Feldon. (Yeah, I'm an old fart.)
 
2013-08-01 12:53:00 PM
Writer:  I did not lie about my personals and still received a phone and am telling you about how Ofartburger is the fartiest fart who ever farted "Hail to the Chief!" while in a bubble bath!

Everyone else: Knowing the criteria for the Lifeline program and then still applying, even with truthful information, is still fraud.
 
2013-08-01 12:53:15 PM

FarkedOver: The poor should have NOTHING!


there was actually a court case that decided it is okay for homeless people to have things.
 
2013-08-01 12:53:18 PM

ManateeGag: do they realize that the Lifeline program also helps a lot of old people living on fixed incomes?


They don't care.  The current GOP line is that any program that can be abused should be destroyed, regardless of who it effects.  If the fallout happens to be their voter base, that's even better because they'll be able to spin it as "Obama took your phone!"
 
2013-08-01 12:53:48 PM

coeyagi: vernonFL: I REALLY hate to agree with NRO, but if the phone program is being abused, then someone should do something about it.

IF this article is true, there is little to no oversight and they really are just handing out phones regardless of whether people qualifiy for them, and that is wrong and it should be addressed.

Correct.  If 5% of the program results in fraud, it should be burned to the ground not with a match but perhaps an ICBM.

This is what the GOP actually believes.


I think that 5% is a bit high, given what they're trying to do to the SNAP program, which has 1 cent on the dollar redeemed lost to fraud.
 
2013-08-01 12:54:12 PM
Just tell the folks who are opposed to the freedom phones that the gov't is using them to track and jail poors.  you'll see the program get additional funding.
 
2013-08-01 12:54:41 PM
Free free free free free free free
Obama-phone!
One for you and one for me
Obama-phoooo-oone
I've got this feeling, the Right's concealing
The reason all our Lifelines can ring. Ring!

Ring ring ring ring ring ring ring Obama-phone
Ding dong ding dong ding dong ding dobama-phone
No, we ain't fakin', conceived by Reagan
There's no charge! Living large!
Cellular, modular, interactivodular!

Ring ring ring ring ring ring ring Obama-phone
Boop-boo-ba-doo-ba-doop!
Ping pong ping pong ping pong ping panana phone
It dials with ease, this government cheese
My cellular, Obamular phone!

/I'm so sorry
//So very, very sorry
///x3
 
2013-08-01 12:55:02 PM
The GOP should just come up with a new "We are going to kill and eat all the poor people" platform and get it over with.
 
2013-08-01 12:55:31 PM

meat0918: coeyagi: vernonFL: I REALLY hate to agree with NRO, but if the phone program is being abused, then someone should do something about it.

IF this article is true, there is little to no oversight and they really are just handing out phones regardless of whether people qualifiy for them, and that is wrong and it should be addressed.

Correct.  If 5% of the program results in fraud, it should be burned to the ground not with a match but perhaps an ICBM.

This is what the GOP actually believes.

I think that 5% is a bit high, given what they're trying to do to the SNAP program, which has 1 cent on the dollar redeemed lost to fraud.


I was just throwing out a number.  I wouldn't even start considering shuttering a program until it hits 20%, but hey, I am not a soulless evil f*ck who hails from the great state of "Wouldn't ever need to land there, you're in between actual places of interest".
 
2013-08-01 12:55:33 PM

hubiestubert: Jackson Herring: hubiestubert: sigdiamond2000: Goddamn do these people hate the poor.

How can you expend so much of your energy hating the powerless?

It keeps the proles from realizing exactly how badly that they're getting screwed...

THEY HAVE IT SO WELL, THE POOR

So many Lucky Duckies...


i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-01 12:55:48 PM

Jackson Herring: hubiestubert: sigdiamond2000: Goddamn do these people hate the poor.

How can you expend so much of your energy hating the powerless?

It keeps the proles from realizing exactly how badly that they're getting screwed...

THEY HAVE IT SO WELL, THE POOR


Many of them even have refridgerators! The luxury!
 
2013-08-01 12:56:06 PM

coeyagi: Writer:  I did not lie about my personals and still received a phone and am telling you about how Ofartburger is the fartiest fart who ever farted "Hail to the Chief!" while in a bubble bath!

Everyone else: Knowing the criteria for the Lifeline program and then still applying, even with truthful information, is still fraud.


Yeah, it looks like the government isn't requiring the companies to enforce anything and dude got threatened with prosecution.
 
2013-08-01 12:56:43 PM

James!: coeyagi: Writer:  I did not lie about my personals and still received a phone and am telling you about how Ofartburger is the fartiest fart who ever farted "Hail to the Chief!" while in a bubble bath!

Everyone else: Knowing the criteria for the Lifeline program and then still applying, even with truthful information, is still fraud.

Yeah, it looks like the government isn't requiring the companies to enforce anything and dude got threatened with prosecution.


The first part is unfortunate, the second is not.  F*ck that guy.
 
2013-08-01 12:57:29 PM
Fark the poor! They've had it too good for far too long.  They just walk around without a care in the farking world like they own the goddamn place.  What the fark do they contribute to society!?  We need to liquidate that entire farking class of leeches.

/not intended to be a factual statement
 
2013-08-01 12:57:43 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: sigdiamond2000: Goddamn do these people hate the poor.

How can you expend so much of your energy hating the powerless?

If a persons taxes are going to somebody else, be they rich or poor, and you don't think it's a justifiable transfer (for instance, for subsidized cell phones or whatever), it makes complete sense to oppose it. It doesn't amount to "hating the poor", it's just hating your money being taken and wasted.


So you oppose the Pentagon. So much waste they can't even quantify it, top secret it is, can't tell you, have to kill you.
 
2013-08-01 12:57:57 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: sigdiamond2000: Goddamn do these people hate the poor.

How can you expend so much of your energy hating the powerless?

If a persons taxes are going to somebody else, be they rich or poor, and you don't think it's a justifiable transfer (for instance, for subsidized cell phones or whatever), it makes complete sense to oppose it. It doesn't amount to "hating the poor", it's just hating your money being taken and wasted.


See, the problem is actions speak louder than words.  The actions are "Removing funding for this program that largely benefits the poor and helps them become not poor because there is a small amount of fraud" not "How can we better defend against fraud while still managing to give people a helping hand up?"
 
2013-08-01 12:58:52 PM

Thrag: Old_Chief_Scott: oldernell: I thought they were Reagan phones.

They were actually called Bush Phones for a little while, but let's face it, which rolls off the tongue better, Bush Phone or Obamaphone?

Obama does have a really good name for concatenation into words. Not too many consonants and similar vowels. The three equal beats are just begging for another syllable to round things off to 4/4 time. The "O-a-a-thing" pattern just works well.


That's because everyone here is just more than contented to be living and dying in 3/4 time...
 
2013-08-01 12:59:05 PM

SovietCanuckistan: The GOP should just come up with a new "We are going to kill and eat all the poor people" platform and get it over with.


I get your point, but that's not how the game is played.
 
2013-08-01 12:59:23 PM

James!: Yeah, it looks like the government isn't requiring the companies to enforce anything and dude got threatened with prosecution.


so the cell providers are free of job-killing big government regulation
 
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