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(NJ.com)   Airlines, listen up: It turns out that airplane boarding IS rocket science, says one scientist   (nj.com) divider line 22
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1060 clicks; posted to Business » on 01 Aug 2013 at 8:36 AM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-08-01 08:41:30 AM  
It's hard for me to tell if the people standing in the middle of the aisle looking around for a place to put their oversized carry-on luggage are just rookies who don't fly very often, or entitled dickmonkeys who don't give a damn how long the people behind them have to wait.
 
2013-08-01 08:41:44 AM  
The FASTEST way to board is to line people up by ticket number in the boarding area - back to front, Outside to inside, Every Third row at a time. All the congestion of the jetway vanishes when the Jackasses sitting halfway down the plane don't block the people sitting behind them.

/also - No carry-ons heavier than 10 lbs.
 
2013-08-01 08:44:40 AM  
The airlines aren't really the problem; as always, it's the selfish people. If these people would just think of the whole picture and ditch their own petty me-first entitlement mentality and follow rules, they could implement the "windows seats first" strategy and things would improve.
 
2013-08-01 08:46:50 AM  
Maybe the airline can provide some kind of narrow metal walkway -- a kind of chute, maybe -- and to prevent ticket loss each passenger can be given a special RFID tag attached, say, to the customer's ear to allow better attendant monitoring?
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2013-08-01 08:48:45 AM  
Duh, pre-boards, 1st class/business, window seats-center-isle last.

Oh, and ONE farking carry on that farking fits or get charged double!

Yep, I fly about 15-20 round trips a year and check 2 bags.
 
2013-08-01 09:10:32 AM  
Piss off and take a train.
 
2013-08-01 09:11:53 AM  
old news is old, American West tested seating strategies and found this out a decade ago
Link
 
2013-08-01 09:12:52 AM  
Step 1: Charge to check luggage to make more money
Step 2: Everyone decides to use a carry on
Step 3: Boarding times increase, causing delays, costing money

This is really happening to airlines.
 
2013-08-01 09:17:27 AM  
Man, I hate going through the pumps, but meeting the liquid oxygen is a real blast.
 
2013-08-01 09:21:41 AM  
Have a block of seats in the waiting area in the same configuration as those on the plane.  Just 5 rows or so.
Everybody in the back 5 rows sits in those, in their designated spot, until the plane is ready to board.  Exit the simulated seating through the window side, back row first.
Now everybody from that group is lined up exactly where they need to be.  Repeat with the next group, etc.

/ of course, handling multiple plane sizes at the same gate could get confusing.

impaler: Step 1: Charge to check luggage to make more money
Step 2: Everyone decides to use a carry on
Step 3: Boarding times increase, causing delays, costing money

This is really happening to airlines.


I'm not sure why they haven't started aggressively enforcing carry on size limits.  Would make it less of a pain in the ass for people like me who travel light, and would give them the opportunity to make more money by charging people twice as much to gate check their oversized bag.
 
2013-08-01 09:26:19 AM  

mrwknd: Duh, pre-boards, 1st class/business, premium sky miles platinum, premium sky miles express, sky premium miles platinum, platinum extreme sky miles, summit gold, emerald sapphire preferred, window seats-center-isle last.


FTFY.  They spend as much time announcing the different boarding classes as it takes to actually board the plane.
 
2013-08-01 09:28:31 AM  

ptr2void: The airlines aren't really the problem; as always, it's the selfish people. If these people would just think of the whole picture and ditch their own petty me-first entitlement mentality and follow rules, they could implement the "windows seats first" strategy and things would improve.


It is this coupled with gate agents and flight attendants refusing to do their jobs and prevent people from bringing on multiple huge bags.
 
2013-08-01 09:43:00 AM  
serial_crusher

mrwknd:
Duh, pre-boards, 1st class/business, premium sky miles platinum, premium sky miles express, sky premium miles platinum, platinum extreme sky miles, summit gold, emerald sapphire preferred, window seats-center-isle last.

FTFY.  They spend as much time announcing the different boarding classes as it takes to actually board the plane.


Damnit, now I'll need to wait longer for my Bloody farking Mary.

Still like the not used carry on sizing frames at ticketing and the gate.
 
2013-08-01 09:45:31 AM  

Thoguh: ptr2void: The airlines aren't really the problem; as always, it's the selfish people. If these people would just think of the whole picture and ditch their own petty me-first entitlement mentality and follow rules, they could implement the "windows seats first" strategy and things would improve.

It is this coupled with gate agents and flight attendants refusing to do their jobs and prevent people from bringing on multiple huge bags.




And when the gatekeepers do their job and call out Joan Crawford carrying her steamer trunk aboard, the douchebag gets upset.

CSB: Last flight I took, some guy had a duffel bag that looked like something a person would have after getting out of the Army for 25 years. It literally was the size of a small child. The attendant politely told him it was too big. When the douche got upset, he was told "it has to fit in the testing rack". The halfwit grudgingly put it on top of the rack and tried to pound it into the rack to prove it could fit, like trying to fit a roast turkey into a teacup.
 
2013-08-01 10:07:46 AM  

serial_crusher: Have a block of seats in the waiting area in the same configuration as those on the plane.  Just 5 rows or so.
Everybody in the back 5 rows sits in those, in their designated spot, until the plane is ready to board.  Exit the simulated seating through the window side, back row first.
Now everybody from that group is lined up exactly where they need to be.  Repeat with the next group, etc.


Good lord. Can you imagine the confusion, though? Getting everyone to sit down in their designated "faux seat" in the waiting area, one group at a time, would take longer than the flight itself.
 
2013-08-01 10:20:17 AM  
Split the walkway into a Y configuration and use the rear door of the plane as well.
 
2013-08-01 10:27:56 AM  

Earguy: Split the walkway into a Y configuration and use the rear door of the plane as well.




The wing gets in the way.
 
2013-08-01 12:36:35 PM  
I do like the having multiple lanes idea.  Have a different lane for every boarding zone would go a long way towards clearing up the boarding area and making boarding more efficent.
 
2013-08-01 04:00:28 PM  
I was hoping that TFA would be about boarding planes with rocket packs.  Boy was I wrong.


RobertBruce: Piss off and take a train.


Trains are socialist.
 
2013-08-01 05:30:17 PM  

HempHead: Earguy: Split the walkway into a Y configuration and use the rear door of the plane as well.

The wing gets in the way.


also would require installing a second ramp at every terminal.
 
2013-08-01 06:20:16 PM  

serial_crusher: impaler: Step 1: Charge to check luggage to make more money
Step 2: Everyone decides to use a carry on
Step 3: Boarding times increase, causing delays, costing money

This is really happening to airlines.

I'm not sure why they haven't started aggressively enforcing carry on size limits. Would make it less of a pain in the ass for people like me who travel light, and would give them the opportunity to make more money by charging people twice as much to gate check their oversized bag.


American is letting people who gate check to board earlier. Of course, Southwest lets you check two bags, gratis.
 
2013-08-01 08:12:39 PM  
The back-to-front system, still used by many airlines, seems logical. But some studies have shown that it's slower than windows-middle-aisle.
"If you're on the aisle and somebody sitting next to you in the middle seat shows up, you need to unbuckle and maybe get up," says Ken Bostock, United's managing director of customer experience. "That can take 20, 25 seconds, and that happens a lot during the boarding process."


People buckle their seat belts when they have an aisle seat and the middle and/or window seat is still empty? Who does this?

/likes aisle seats
//doesn't buckle seat belt until the rest of the row is there
 
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