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(Mother Jones)   Let's try out the old burger flippers calculator to see if you can survive on fast-food wages. Difficulty: calculated math involved   (motherjones.com) divider line 18
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2013-08-01 08:19:49 AM
8 votes:
Nobody has provided me a good reason why people should be paid a wage for their job.  Wages are holding back this economy.  If you force people to work for free, the job creators could have everyone in the country over the age of four employed.  But please, continue to insist that "children need an education".  So stupid.  Lol.
2013-08-01 09:55:03 AM
2 votes:
People trying to raise a family on a fast food job should be fired for trying to raise a family on a fast food job, that way they'll be less of a drain on society. Either that or their children should be shot into space.
2013-08-01 02:20:59 PM
1 votes:

MrBallou: "Help a brother out?" shouldn't just be for street corner beggars. How about we do it for people willing to work for the money? That's what you Conservatives always say you want.


Ya, but they don't want the government to force them to help because that makes it easier to say that they want to help without actually having to.
2013-08-01 01:03:33 PM
1 votes:
Oh, is this another thread where pieces of human trash suggest that working people should not be paid enough to live on from a job they're dedicating their useful working hours to?
2013-08-01 12:59:43 PM
1 votes:

dittybopper: Since when has a job flipping burgers ever been something anybody expected to make a living off of?

I'm 46 years old, and back when *I* was a kid, the people you saw working at McDonalds were either high school or college students, or older folks looking to supplement their retirement incomes.

If you were between those two age ranges, you were either a manager or the mentally disabled guy they hired to mop the floors.

NOT EVERY JOB CAN OR SHOULD PAY A "LIVING WAGE".  If you can be replaced by a mid-70's IQ pimply-faced teenager who only has a couple days of training, then what you do for work isn't worth a "living wage".  If it was, they wouldn't hire dumb-ass kids and retirees to do it.



Then we don't get to count these as jobs, and the companies are not "job creators."
2013-08-01 12:26:27 PM
1 votes:
I don't see the problem here. According to the calculator in the article, a fast food worker would only have to work 504 hours per week to make what I make. Why are fast food workers so lazy that they can 't work 500+ hours per week? Bums.
2013-08-01 11:55:32 AM
1 votes:

MisterRonbo: Minimum wage in Australia: $14.70 (USD)
Unemployment in Australia: 5.6%


That's just combat pay because all wildlife in Australia is designed to kill you.
2013-08-01 11:49:07 AM
1 votes:

MisterRonbo: Aristocles: I bet it's a lot easier to survive on fast food wages than it is on not having a job at all. If our noble job-creators are forced to keep upping the wages for unskilled labor, they won't be able to hire as many employees.

Minimum wage in Australia: $14.70 (USD)
Unemployment in Australia: 5.6%

Oh, let me guess, you're going to derp about inflation. Big Mac in the US: $4.20   In Australia: $4.96

Guess how many customers of places that pay minimum wage are themselves making minimum wage. Guess what happens to your business when your customers are making a lot more money.


No, I'm not. I'm going to point out the fact that The United States of America is best nation in the history of the world so, of course, we'll have more folks trying to get jobs here than they do in Australia.

"Australia," please. I'm sure it's a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.
2013-08-01 10:47:24 AM
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: RockofAges: tenpoundsofcheese:

And you're the biggest troll on Fark. Sad story / got a smoke?

And once again your only contribution is a personal attack

That is trolling behavior and a violation of the TOS



Tpoc. No one here likes you. It's obvious. It's time for you to move on to greener pastures where you can frolic with others if your kind.

Try the free republic, or hope and change comics. You'll feel better as people there will be more accepting of your bullshiat.

Oh no, don't give me the, "Im a brave trooper, here to open the eyes of Libs" line.

I promise you, that you have never once, changed someone's mind to your side of view. Not once. I can however say with decent certainty that you have convinced people to side against you on issues because your arguments are crap.

So, in closing... Just go Tpoc, just go.
2013-08-01 10:19:25 AM
1 votes:
If a  liberal like Nixon hadn't killed American manufacturing with the EPA we'd all have a lot more options for employment and the overall economy would be doing much better.
2013-08-01 10:03:59 AM
1 votes:

dittybopper: monoski: Not sure if you are trolling or just naive and don't understand that there are adults out there who do work in fast food as a primary job.

Oh, I understand that.  I also understand that the people who do that aren't going to end up doing much better if you pay them more, because they lack anything approaching the planning skills required to actually make a decent living.

My sister used to be one of those people.  She spent something like 20 *YEARS* working at various McDonalds.  And it was her own damned fault for doing so.  She didn't look past the next paycheck, so she got stuck in a job like that.  For decades.

Paying people more money, when the fact that they are stuck in such a job shows their complete and utter lack of planning for the future beyond the next week, isn't really going to help them.  You're better off taking that extra money and spending it on education.


fark you, dude. No, seriously. You, DIA, and that other elitist prick in this thread are seriously the worst representatives of "how to raise a boy into a man" ever. Where I come from (btw, just as "good ol' boy" as the southern U.S.) we're raised to treat all workers, people who get up and go to work, with respect. Frankly, I have more respect for burger flippers and janitors than I do many professional class individuals -- the working class sweats a whole lot more ("real work") than a lot of you pompous assholes.

Honestly, if anyone talked that kind of shiat about minimum wage workers in most places in Atlantic Canada, they would probably get a serious dressing down, and if they kept it up, a slap across the face for being so immensely disrespectful towards people who are working hard to contribute to our society.

I find your morals and lack of ethics, as well as personal narcissism (DIA being guilty of it almost always) to be disgusting. I hope you never propogate your ideas or beliefs to anyone who could be corrupted by your lack of humanity and manhood.

Basically, a bunch of pasty white guy big shots who think they are tougher than anyone else until the shiat REALLY goes down, then you are exposed as a gaggle of spineless wannabes.
2013-08-01 09:55:55 AM
1 votes:

raerae1980: I already know I wouldn't survive, having worked retail-slave hours and wages.  Also, dittybopper: Since when has a job flipping burgers ever been something anybody expected to make a living off of?

Maybe these people never anticipated having to stay at these types of jobs.  I mean, I have an MA and cannot find entry level work in my field, so I'm forced to find work where I can and that has been in retail.  I'm STILL in retail, working retail wages.  Yes, I expect to be able to live off these wages.   *shrugs*


Why didn't you mention that your MA is in archeology/anthropology....I would think that is a limited field as it is. So your choice of what to pursue could be construed as 'poor'.

/archeology fan...
2013-08-01 09:54:58 AM
1 votes:

dittybopper: NOT EVERY JOB CAN OR SHOULD PAY A "LIVING WAGE".  If you can be replaced by a mid-70's IQ pimply-faced teenager who only has a couple days of training, then what you do for work isn't worth a "living wage".  If it was, they wouldn't hire dumb-ass kids and retirees to do it.


10/10 Perfect blend of poutrage, hatefulness, unenlightened self-interest, and unselfconscious naïveté.
Bravo.

/Still waiting for Panthera tigris to administer biatch-slap de grâce.
2013-08-01 09:43:23 AM
1 votes:

LordZorch: Mike_LowELL: Nobody has provided me a good reason why people should be paid a wage for their job.  Wages are holding back this economy.  If you force people to work for free, the job creators could have everyone in the country over the age of four employed.  But please, continue to insist that "children need an education".  So stupid.  Lol.

It takes dedicated work to be as stupid as you are.  You must be a "progressive"....


Yes...HE'S the stupid one...
2013-08-01 09:42:09 AM
1 votes:

Bloody William: As long as it makes you feel better that a 40-hour work week doesn't pay a living wage for certain jobs.


Look we all know that in today's economy, there are just jobs growing on trees and if you don't like your wage you can just get another job bleep bloop I am autistic
2013-08-01 09:40:11 AM
1 votes:
If mom wouldn't keep raising the rent on the basement lair, this wouldn't be a problem.
2013-08-01 08:55:16 AM
1 votes:
Why would I want to try and make it on a burger flippers salary?

/if I had wanted to do that, I would have gotten a degree in humanities.
2013-08-01 08:10:39 AM
1 votes:
Since when has a job flipping burgers ever been something anybody expected to make a living off of?

I'm 46 years old, and back when *I* was a kid, the people you saw working at McDonalds were either high school or college students, or older folks looking to supplement their retirement incomes.

If you were between those two age ranges, you were either a manager or the mentally disabled guy they hired to mop the floors.

NOT EVERY JOB CAN OR SHOULD PAY A "LIVING WAGE".  If you can be replaced by a mid-70's IQ pimply-faced teenager who only has a couple days of training, then what you do for work isn't worth a "living wage".  If it was, they wouldn't hire dumb-ass kids and retirees to do it.
 
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