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(CNN)   Ariel Castro's sister says people will be seeing his kinder, gentler, non-kidnapping and beating and raping three girls for a decade side when he speaks at his sentencing hearing   (cnn.com) divider line 14
    More: Unlikely, Ariel Castro, Gina DeJesus, witness testimony, emotional abuse  
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2013-08-01 01:15:05 PM
4 votes:
Were he my brother, I'd demand (or really just take) the opportunity to take him out myself. 

Nem Wan: It's interesting how, when someone had done something very, very wrong, people want to dismiss information about anything he did right, and round up his evil score to 100%, rather than consider a total picture of his life that might make his evil score be 92.68%, and then consider how someone who is 92.68%  evil should be treated differently than someone who is 100% evil. It's as though people like simplicity.


Oh bullshiat.

What he did was among the worst possible crimes possible. This piece of shiat could cure aids and cancer tomorrow and it still wouldn't wipe his slate clean.

Oh, let's talk about what he did right. That one time he gave a dollar to a bum, so let's take that into account when judging him.

This isn't like some politician who cheated on his wife but on the whole did good for society.  This man tortured 3 women daily for years. He beat them, he raped them, he got them pregnant and made one give birth to his child and at least another he forced a painful miscarriage upon.  Spare us the high ground bullshiat about simplicity. This is pretty farking simple, and if you don't get that then I suggest you are the simple one.
2013-08-01 11:03:42 AM
2 votes:
I've got to go full Godwin on this one.

It does not matter that Castro has some "other side". We can all find home movies of Adolph Hitler petting his dog. Doesn't unkill anybody killed by the Gestapo.
2013-08-01 01:24:33 PM
1 votes:
"I'm not a monster. I'm just sick. I have an addiction."

This BS excuses pisses me off when it comes to little crimes, much less this.

I wish he could get a sentence of being completely at the mercy of his victims at any time in addition to his life sentence.
2013-08-01 12:56:53 PM
1 votes:

freetomato: bottomless


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2013-08-01 12:47:57 PM
1 votes:

Nem Wan: It's interesting how, when someone had done something very, very wrong, people want to dismiss information about anything he did right, and round up his evil score to 100%, rather than consider a total picture of his life that might make his evil score be 92.68%, and then consider how someone who is 92.68%  evil should be treated differently than someone who is 100% evil. It's as though people like simplicity.


Percentages of evil are meaningless, as nobody has ever been 100% evil because even history's inveterate douchebags have done nice things.  Unless "100% evil" is an adjusted top score which equates to a lesser percentage of "absolute evil", which is acknowledged by the community to be impossible to achieve.

Mao Tse Tung was probably nice to his kids at some point.
Hitler was an animal lover.
Charles Manson probably swerved to avoid a family of ducks at some point in his pre-prison life.
Ted Bundy passed the salt when somebody said "please pass the salt, Ted" at the dinner table (no citation, but come on - it has to have happened.  Who hasn't passed the salt?)
2013-08-01 12:27:27 PM
1 votes:
the reason most states (and civilized countries) have dropped capital punishment has more to do with the fact of occasional mistaken conviction than with cruelty.

/since i don't believe in an afterlife, i think life-without-parole is an actual punishment. killing them is mere disposal of an embarrassment.
2013-08-01 12:20:32 PM
1 votes:
Nem Wan:

It's interesting how, when someone had done something very, very wrong, people want to dismiss information about anything he did right, and round up his evil score to 100%, rather than consider a total picture of his life that might make his evil score be 92.68%, and then consider how someone who is 92.68%  evil should be treated differently than someone who is 100% evil. It's as though people like simplicity.

There are shades of grey between the black and white of right and wrong and we can discuss the complexity of moral choices until the end of mankind.
There is no daylight between "right" and these crimes of kidnapping and assault - period.
There are not enough positive life events to alter the math. There is a reason kidnapping is a felony.
2013-08-01 12:11:27 PM
1 votes:

serial_crusher: life in prison plus 1,000 years


When he gets out "Futurama" will be a reality show.
2013-08-01 11:41:27 AM
1 votes:

IdBeCrazyIf: More or less this. Also consider as well that you only get to shower twice a week in protective custody because special arrangements are needed to allow it. So he'll get the full Castro experience he inflicted on those girls.


No, he won't.

Nobody will be chaining him to a pole, beating, and raping him.  No parents will be sitting at home wondering what happened to him, hoping he will come home some day but deep down knowing he is probably dead and rotting in a ditch somewhere.  His child isn't going to grow up thinking his parent just walked away.

What he will experience is nothing like what he inflicted on those girls.  What he deserves is immediate death and it is sad that we as a nation have lost the balls to give it to him.
2013-08-01 11:05:52 AM
1 votes:
doglover:
And that's another thing. Why do we want him dead? He tortured those girls and torture is wrong. But we're going to torture him to death, basically, because we've lost civilization to well meaning busy bodies who say "Oh my god, the death penalty looks so painful." It is a bit, but compared to the alternative of decades in the same room? Much more advanced is the society that ends it quickly.

He should be issued an old fashioned flintlock with one frangible ball, one charge of powder, and loading instructions any time he requests it.


He wrote a suicidal note some years ago.  He had every opportunity to do just that for a decade.  He also could have refused the plea deal if he had wanted put down.  Rotting in a lone cell for the rest of your life is the worst punishment we can possibly legally inflict.  If ANYONE deserves that, it's this piece of shiat.
2013-08-01 10:53:29 AM
1 votes:

serial_crusher: life in prison plus 1,000 years

Do they have a prison cemetery or something?


I'm not sure, but I think long sentences like that are so that if new laws get enacted that knock off good behavior time, or allow for parole hearings at various stages of sentence completion that such prisoners simply won't be eligible.

Any folks out there know for sure?
2013-08-01 10:51:55 AM
1 votes:
you forgot 'murdering' subby...
2013-08-01 10:45:14 AM
1 votes:

nekom: There's no legal punishment that can be inflicted on him that truly matches his crimes, but he's not going to have a pleasant rest of his life by any means.


And that's another thing. Why do we want him dead? He tortured those girls and torture is wrong. But we're going to torture him to death, basically, because we've lost civilization to well meaning busy bodies who say "Oh my god, the death penalty looks so painful." It is a bit, but compared to the alternative of decades in the same room? Much more advanced is the society that ends it quickly.

He should be issued an old fashioned flintlock with one frangible ball, one charge of powder, and loading instructions any time he requests it.
2013-08-01 10:34:30 AM
1 votes:

doglover: Now we get to feed and house this guy in special 100,000k per year chimo cells until someone has the chance to shank him, if ever.

What ever happened to the axe man?


He won't get shanked, there's no chance he'll be in genpop.  But consider what protective custody is, it's no different than the standard solitary punishment.  Devoid of human contact other than guards escorting him to his exercise cage for an hour a day, 5 days a week.  23 hours in a cell, alone.  I'd be begging for the axe before too long.  There's no legal punishment that can be inflicted on him that truly matches his crimes, but he's not going to have a pleasant rest of his life by any means.

Well, maybe letting Charles Ramsey have at him with a baseball bat, but that would be cruel and unusual.
 
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