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(TMZ)   Amanda Bynes' cocktail appears to be working. See? All she wanted was a Pepsi. Just one Pepsi   (tmz.com) divider line 19
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2013-08-01 11:12:55 AM  
3 votes:

stupiddream: Turfshoe: How is this not a HIPAA violation?.


It is, and whoever fed TMZ the info is guilty.

I am glad that she is doing better. I hope the judge keeps her in psych for the full 2 weeks to make sure the drugs are actually working rather than more of a placebo effect (very common when trying out new psych drugs), and I hope her parents get the conservatorship, even if it is to make sure she is taking her meds regularly.
2013-08-01 10:35:38 AM  
3 votes:
How is this not a HIPAA violation?
2013-08-01 10:23:06 AM  
3 votes:

Aristocles: who?


Oof...twice already.

i.chzbgr.com
2013-08-01 09:02:05 AM  
3 votes:
Good, I hope she gets better now.

/besides, fark is sick of that gif I post in every negative Amanda Bynes thread.
2013-08-01 05:50:39 PM  
2 votes:

justabitdisturbed: The "cocktail" is not treating her schizophrenia (if that's indeed what she has), it's just sedating her so she doesn't act out.  It takes 6 weeks or longer for anti-psychotic medication to take effect.  Source: girlfriend is a social worker who deals with patients who have schizophrenia on a daily basis.


6 weeks or longer for....antidepressants.  Anti-depressants != antipsychotics.  There's a reason psychiatrists prescribe psych drugs and not social workers.
2013-08-01 03:12:16 PM  
2 votes:

imfallen_angel: mentallo69: That is untrue and doesnt fix any problems in the short or long term. It makes her a vegetable.

I look at what happened with my daughter when she became violent, one doctor was convinced about one med would do it, and that was a terrible road... she ended up sleepy for the first few days, then back to violent, and this doctor kept upping the dosage.

So we took her to another hospital, other doctor that weaned her off that med, long story short, he  took another direction that within even the first day we saw a major difference in her.

As I said, I ended up researching a lot about these meds., their effect, etc. while staying in constant touch with the doctor (and his team).

So it's with this that while it's easy to simply dope someone up, it's another to have something work.

The behavior, the attitude changes are the first clue that something gets rebalanced as opposed to having someone drooling in a corner.

And as far a "several weeks".. that's a bit much... it's usually a few days, normally about a week to see some results.

As I already stated, then it's bloodwork to see where the levels of meds are at, using proper parameters to see the levels of hormones and other indicators to ensure a balance.

Someone with a difficult metabolism, it requires follow up, but it's not several weeks to take effect... it's several weeks of being followed to ensure the balance of the meds in the system, and to ensure that the person actually takes them properly, as also stated, the danger is someone that after being balanced for a few (days/weeks) may believe themselves "cured" and go off the meds... so this follow-up is important so that the person may get to the understanding of their condition and understand that no matter how they feel, they need to continue taking the meds unless the doctor says otherwise.


It really is a question of the person being able to trust the doctor, which, with paranoia, is technically ironic.

That is a huuuuge deal. I was going to be a Pharmacology major. Decided against that because as a biologist I do not believe in treatment, I want to find the cures to shiat. Then I thought ok, well maybe I will be a doctor. I got into UCLA and UW med school and I wanted to go into Infectous diseases. (Im a microbiologist by profession) Then I started thinking. I dont want to be another one of those A$$ hole doctors who looks at people like a cash cow and rush my patients in and out of the door because insurance companies want to get as many people in and out of the office as fast as possible.  I want my patients to be able to destroy my brain and get as much out of me as humanly possible to help them. Clinics, hospitals and insurance companies frown on that bedside manner.  So I went into research biology  If I am going to make an impact, its going to be in research. I decided against a 300-400k a year job to work as a research biologist making less than 60k a year.

Guess what, I've never been more happy. Question your farking doctor. Question them till it pisses them off. The problem is that too many people do not ask questions, they look at the Ph.D on the wall and take what they say on blind faith. Screw that crap!!!!

The united states medical industry is one of the top 5 largest economies in the entire world. We have a nation of shiatty doctors who create hypochondriacs because they are lazy. I refused to be part of the problem.
2013-08-01 11:31:08 AM  
2 votes:
You know, I am usually all for making fun of people and slamming celebrities and the like. Making fun of a girl with Schizophrenia is just as disturbing as watching someone who has it. I am very glad to see there are real medical reasons why she is acting the way she was and I hope that she gets better. No one deserves to live that kind of life. Its hard on friends and family to see a loved one go through that...........


or......................she pulled the best Edward Norton of all and trolled us like Primal Fear. If that is the case, give her an Oscar because she would have trolled the world.
2013-08-01 09:51:53 AM  
2 votes:

basemetal: Good, I hope she gets better now.


Agreed.  Unlike Lohan, Bynes is not an addict...she has real mental illness.  I hope she can recover enough to enjoy a normal life.
2013-08-01 06:10:06 PM  
1 votes:
There sure are a lot of psychiatrists/pharmacologists in this thread...

I think the quickest way to correct the array of misinformation in this thread is to say that "psych meds" are not one class of drugs.  Adverse effects, efficacy, indication, precautions, etc are not interchangeable per each class or even within a class.  Much like how "mental illness" isn't one thing that is treated all the same. Your friend's daughters best friend's sister who went nuts that one time isn't representative of someone else with an unspecified disorder on unspecified medication.  The fact that the SSRI antidepressant Zoloft can take up to 6 weeks to take effect doesn't mean that the atypical antipsychotic Risperidone (prescribed for schizophrena, among other things) takes that long too.  The drowsiness of that Ativan given to someone with anxiety can't be applied to say something like Wellbutrin that causes insomnia, given to someone with depression.  See how silly that is?  It's not even apples to oranges, it's apples to staplers.

And for the Tom Cruises up there claiming that these are highly dangerous drugs that shouldn't ever be given to anyone, ever, remember that this is a person who is talking to inanimate objects and sloppily setting cans of gas on fire in a strangers driveway.  Also, go fark yourselves with your militant ignorance of medicine and pharmacology.

/Med student finishing up rotations, applying for psychiatry residency.  No, I'm not an expert, but I know the damn basics before I unload verbal diarrhea on stuff I have no clue about.
2013-08-01 02:40:51 PM  
1 votes:

mentallo69: That is untrue and doesnt fix any problems in the short or long term. It makes her a vegetable.


I look at what happened with my daughter when she became violent, one doctor was convinced about one med would do it, and that was a terrible road... she ended up sleepy for the first few days, then back to violent, and this doctor kept upping the dosage.

So we took her to another hospital, other doctor that weaned her off that med, long story short, he  took another direction that within even the first day we saw a major difference in her.

As I said, I ended up researching a lot about these meds., their effect, etc. while staying in constant touch with the doctor (and his team).

So it's with this that while it's easy to simply dope someone up, it's another to have something work.

The behavior, the attitude changes are the first clue that something gets rebalanced as opposed to having someone drooling in a corner.

And as far a "several weeks".. that's a bit much... it's usually a few days, normally about a week to see some results.

As I already stated, then it's bloodwork to see where the levels of meds are at, using proper parameters to see the levels of hormones and other indicators to ensure a balance.

Someone with a difficult metabolism, it requires follow up, but it's not several weeks to take effect... it's several weeks of being followed to ensure the balance of the meds in the system, and to ensure that the person actually takes them properly, as also stated, the danger is someone that after being balanced for a few (days/weeks) may believe themselves "cured" and go off the meds... so this follow-up is important so that the person may get to the understanding of their condition and understand that no matter how they feel, they need to continue taking the meds unless the doctor says otherwise.

It really is a question of the person being able to trust the doctor, which, with paranoia, is technically ironic.
2013-08-01 01:46:50 PM  
1 votes:

devilskware: Why would I care if she has an orgasm or not?


Because of the knife to the throat when you wake up

/i had a bad experience
2013-08-01 01:35:01 PM  
1 votes:

justabitdisturbed: The "cocktail" is not treating her schizophrenia (if that's indeed what she has), it's just sedating her so she doesn't act out.  It takes 6 weeks or longer for anti-psychotic medication to take effect.  Source: girlfriend is a social worker who deals with patients who have schizophrenia on a daily basis.


While true, they do have short term anti psychotics until the long term meds kick in. They are not just "sedating" her the meds are designed to help block certain nuerological receptors for the short term. The way you make it sound is they are "doping" her up to calm her down which is false.

Source: me, molecular biologist.
2013-08-01 01:25:30 PM  
1 votes:

justabitdisturbed: The "cocktail" is not treating her schizophrenia (if that's indeed what she has), it's just sedating her so she doesn't act out.  It takes 6 weeks or longer for anti-psychotic medication to take effect.  Source: girlfriend is a social worker who deals with patients who have schizophrenia on a daily basis.


well, thats part of the concept of the cocktail. It is treating her schizophrenia, but the immedate effects after a few days are most likely due to the sedatives and mood stabailizers. As the anti-psychotics in the cocktail have more time to work, they will ease off of the sedatives to get a better idea of how effective they are being
2013-08-01 01:20:02 PM  
1 votes:
The "cocktail" is not treating her schizophrenia (if that's indeed what she has), it's just sedating her so she doesn't act out.  It takes 6 weeks or longer for anti-psychotic medication to take effect.  Source: girlfriend is a social worker who deals with patients who have schizophrenia on a daily basis.
2013-08-01 01:19:43 PM  
1 votes:

1derful: I wonder how Miley Cyrus and any other pop trollop who've recently been banging rappers because they think it's the in thing to do feel about learning they've been taking their ques from someone who is literally insane.


You mad that she is crazy and you still don't have a snowball in hells chance at her?
2013-08-01 12:47:33 PM  
1 votes:

doczoidberg: wildcardjack: Well... they say "don't stick it in the crazy" but what if the crazy is properly medicated?


Then she won't be able to orgasm, and you'll be farkin until you're exhausted and just give up.


Why would I care if she has an orgasm or not?
2013-08-01 12:42:41 PM  
1 votes:

bulldg4life: Turfshoe: How is this not a HIPAA violation?

Probably because someone connected with Bynes released the top secret info to keep her name in the news.

She's been going nuts for years and two days in a psych hospital with ridiculously dangerous drugs suddenly "cured" her to the point of her being a-ok to leave? Right.

Or, this is step one in her "recovery" to get her career back on track.


Could be, but if you dealt with people with mental diseases/handicaps maybe you'd know that some people can react very quickly to some meds...

Problem is, the levels of the meds need to be stable and maintained properly, and what works for a few days might not after a week after the person's system metabolizes it and it need to be rebalanced.

And with some ailments, the problem is that some of them believe themselves "cured" because they haven't had an episode, decide that they're better and no longer needs the meds, and well...

And the next day they are hiding under a blanket on the corner of a street babbling to themselves, covered in mud or worse.
2013-08-01 11:30:21 AM  
1 votes:

dionysusaur: the speed of her response suggsts those calling her spiral 'performance art' may be on to something.


Or she has REALLY good publicists.
2013-08-01 11:22:52 AM  
1 votes:

Turfshoe: How is this not a HIPAA violation?


Because more than likely her publicist gave them the info.
 
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