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(TMZ)   Amanda Bynes' cocktail appears to be working. See? All she wanted was a Pepsi. Just one Pepsi   (tmz.com) divider line 101
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2013-08-01 09:02:05 AM
Good, I hope she gets better now.

/besides, fark is sick of that gif I post in every negative Amanda Bynes thread.
 
2013-08-01 09:28:42 AM
I wouldn't give it to her.

She's not crazy. YOU'RE the one that's crazy.
 
2013-08-01 09:49:06 AM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-08-01 09:51:53 AM

basemetal: Good, I hope she gets better now.


Agreed.  Unlike Lohan, Bynes is not an addict...she has real mental illness.  I hope she can recover enough to enjoy a normal life.
 
2013-08-01 10:17:20 AM
Nice, suicidaltendenciesmitter
 
2013-08-01 10:18:10 AM

slayer199: basemetal: Good, I hope she gets better now.

Agreed.  Unlike Lohan, Bynes is not an addict...she has real mental illness.  I hope she can recover enough to enjoy a normal life.


I'm with you. I try and find her silly little movies on netflix for my Mom to watch (Alzheimers), the movies are safe and bring a Amanda's silliness and cuteness bring a smile and laugh for my Mom.
 
2013-08-01 10:19:07 AM

basemetal: besides, fark is sick of that gif I post in every negative Amanda Bynes thread.


Is it the MGM one?
 
2013-08-01 10:20:27 AM
who?
 
2013-08-01 10:20:58 AM

basemetal: /besides, fark is sick of that gif I post in every negative Amanda Bynes thread.


I for one vote that I am not sick of it
 
2013-08-01 10:23:06 AM

Aristocles: who?


Oof...twice already.

i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-08-01 10:25:58 AM
It's really fun using the words, "cock" and "tail" in the context of a mentally ill hot young woman.
 
2013-08-01 10:34:18 AM

PizzaJedi81: Aristocles: who?

Oof...twice already.

i.chzbgr.com


:(
 
2013-08-01 10:34:38 AM
Glad she's doing better.
 
2013-08-01 10:35:38 AM
How is this not a HIPAA violation?
 
2013-08-01 10:48:06 AM

Turfshoe: How is this not a HIPAA violation?


Site blocked at work, but I don't think TMZ qualifies as a 'Covered Entity'.
 
2013-08-01 11:02:35 AM
the speed of her response suggsts those calling her spiral 'performance art' may be on to something.
 
2013-08-01 11:07:12 AM
Glad to hear this. I have a friend who recently moved back into town that is having mental problems (not really an expert on the matter and don't know specifics) and I need to hear a good success story :)
 
2013-08-01 11:12:55 AM

stupiddream: Turfshoe: How is this not a HIPAA violation?.


It is, and whoever fed TMZ the info is guilty.

I am glad that she is doing better. I hope the judge keeps her in psych for the full 2 weeks to make sure the drugs are actually working rather than more of a placebo effect (very common when trying out new psych drugs), and I hope her parents get the conservatorship, even if it is to make sure she is taking her meds regularly.
 
2013-08-01 11:13:43 AM

PizzaJedi81: Aristocles: who?

Oof...twice already.

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just put 'em on ignore with the comment "derp."
 
2013-08-01 11:22:52 AM

Turfshoe: How is this not a HIPAA violation?


Because more than likely her publicist gave them the info.
 
2013-08-01 11:27:54 AM
Schizophrenia is a hell of a condition. Give her some DMT and expand her consciousness
 
2013-08-01 11:30:21 AM

dionysusaur: the speed of her response suggsts those calling her spiral 'performance art' may be on to something.


Or she has REALLY good publicists.
 
2013-08-01 11:31:08 AM
You know, I am usually all for making fun of people and slamming celebrities and the like. Making fun of a girl with Schizophrenia is just as disturbing as watching someone who has it. I am very glad to see there are real medical reasons why she is acting the way she was and I hope that she gets better. No one deserves to live that kind of life. Its hard on friends and family to see a loved one go through that...........


or......................she pulled the best Edward Norton of all and trolled us like Primal Fear. If that is the case, give her an Oscar because she would have trolled the world.
 
2013-08-01 11:37:10 AM
Thanks Subby, now I gotta walk across the street and get a pepsi. Just one though
 
2013-08-01 11:54:02 AM
What are you trying to say? I'M crazy?
When I went to YOUR schools, I went to YOUR churches, I went to YOUR institutional learning facilities?
So how can you say I'M crazy?"
 
2013-08-01 12:00:23 PM

basemetal: Good, I hope she gets better now hot again

 
2013-08-01 12:11:35 PM
Well... they say "don't stick it in the crazy" but what if the crazy is properly medicated?
 
2013-08-01 12:13:20 PM

Turfshoe: How is this not a HIPAA violation?


Probably because someone connected with Bynes released the top secret info to keep her name in the news.

She's been going nuts for years and two days in a psych hospital with ridiculously dangerous drugs suddenly "cured" her to the point of her being a-ok to leave? Right.

Or, this is step one in her "recovery" to get her career back on track.
 
2013-08-01 12:28:23 PM

wildcardjack: Well... they say "don't stick it in the crazy" but what if the crazy is properly medicated?



Then she won't be able to orgasm, and you'll be farkin until you're exhausted and just give up.
 
2013-08-01 12:30:31 PM
It says a lot about Fark that Repo Man is not obscure in any way shape or form....

Now how many of my fellow Farkers own the soundtrack?

/Owned the tape since it was released, followed by the CD when that became available
 
2013-08-01 12:30:32 PM
ll-media.tmz.com
 
2013-08-01 12:33:29 PM
If you want a Pepsi, pal, you're gonna pay for it!
 
2013-08-01 12:34:35 PM

Aristocles: who?


A famous marine biologist who discovered Bynesian decay.  Also the hot sister of a Raven's Linebacker
 
2013-08-01 12:38:28 PM

Gunderson: Aristocles: who?

A famous marine biologist who discovered Bynesian decay.  Also the hot sister of a Raven's Linebacker


Yeah, she just hasn't been the same since she got the bends from that deep dive of the coast of Madagascar. Sad.
 
2013-08-01 12:42:41 PM

bulldg4life: Turfshoe: How is this not a HIPAA violation?

Probably because someone connected with Bynes released the top secret info to keep her name in the news.

She's been going nuts for years and two days in a psych hospital with ridiculously dangerous drugs suddenly "cured" her to the point of her being a-ok to leave? Right.

Or, this is step one in her "recovery" to get her career back on track.


Could be, but if you dealt with people with mental diseases/handicaps maybe you'd know that some people can react very quickly to some meds...

Problem is, the levels of the meds need to be stable and maintained properly, and what works for a few days might not after a week after the person's system metabolizes it and it need to be rebalanced.

And with some ailments, the problem is that some of them believe themselves "cured" because they haven't had an episode, decide that they're better and no longer needs the meds, and well...

And the next day they are hiding under a blanket on the corner of a street babbling to themselves, covered in mud or worse.
 
2013-08-01 12:45:48 PM

imfallen_angel: covered in mud or worse.


blood and beer?
 
2013-08-01 12:47:33 PM

doczoidberg: wildcardjack: Well... they say "don't stick it in the crazy" but what if the crazy is properly medicated?


Then she won't be able to orgasm, and you'll be farkin until you're exhausted and just give up.


Why would I care if she has an orgasm or not?
 
2013-08-01 12:49:03 PM
I wonder how Miley Cyrus and any other pop trollop who've recently been banging rappers because they think it's the in thing to do feel about learning they've been taking their ques from someone who is literally insane.
 
2013-08-01 12:51:48 PM

devilskware: doczoidberg: wildcardjack: Well... they say "don't stick it in the crazy" but what if the crazy is properly medicated?


Then she won't be able to orgasm, and you'll be farkin until you're exhausted and just give up.

Why would I care if she has an orgasm or not?


"Hey baby, sex is a race to the finish....and I am UNDEFEATED!!"

/wife hates that joke
//sadly it isn't a joke :(
 
2013-08-01 12:56:50 PM
It doesn't matter...she'll probably get hit by a car anyway.
 
2013-08-01 01:00:04 PM

1derful: I wonder how Miley Cyrus and any other pop trollop who've recently been banging rappers because they think it's the in thing to do feel about learning they've been taking their ques from someone who is literally insane.


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"Que?"
 
2013-08-01 01:15:36 PM
I'd like to work her cocktail, if you...nevermind.
 
2013-08-01 01:19:43 PM

1derful: I wonder how Miley Cyrus and any other pop trollop who've recently been banging rappers because they think it's the in thing to do feel about learning they've been taking their ques from someone who is literally insane.


You mad that she is crazy and you still don't have a snowball in hells chance at her?
 
2013-08-01 01:20:02 PM
The "cocktail" is not treating her schizophrenia (if that's indeed what she has), it's just sedating her so she doesn't act out.  It takes 6 weeks or longer for anti-psychotic medication to take effect.  Source: girlfriend is a social worker who deals with patients who have schizophrenia on a daily basis.
 
2013-08-01 01:24:45 PM

justabitdisturbed: girlfriend is a social worker who deals with patients who have schizophrenia on a daily basis.


Do some people only have schizophrenia every other day, or only a couple times a week?

/just being shallow and pedantic
 
2013-08-01 01:25:30 PM

justabitdisturbed: The "cocktail" is not treating her schizophrenia (if that's indeed what she has), it's just sedating her so she doesn't act out.  It takes 6 weeks or longer for anti-psychotic medication to take effect.  Source: girlfriend is a social worker who deals with patients who have schizophrenia on a daily basis.


well, thats part of the concept of the cocktail. It is treating her schizophrenia, but the immedate effects after a few days are most likely due to the sedatives and mood stabailizers. As the anti-psychotics in the cocktail have more time to work, they will ease off of the sedatives to get a better idea of how effective they are being
 
2013-08-01 01:35:01 PM

justabitdisturbed: The "cocktail" is not treating her schizophrenia (if that's indeed what she has), it's just sedating her so she doesn't act out.  It takes 6 weeks or longer for anti-psychotic medication to take effect.  Source: girlfriend is a social worker who deals with patients who have schizophrenia on a daily basis.


While true, they do have short term anti psychotics until the long term meds kick in. They are not just "sedating" her the meds are designed to help block certain nuerological receptors for the short term. The way you make it sound is they are "doping" her up to calm her down which is false.

Source: me, molecular biologist.
 
2013-08-01 01:41:10 PM

mentallo69: justabitdisturbed: The "cocktail" is not treating her schizophrenia (if that's indeed what she has), it's just sedating her so she doesn't act out.  It takes 6 weeks or longer for anti-psychotic medication to take effect.  Source: girlfriend is a social worker who deals with patients who have schizophrenia on a daily basis.

While true, they do have short term anti psychotics until the long term meds kick in. They are not just "sedating" her the meds are designed to help block certain nuerological receptors for the short term. The way you make it sound is they are "doping" her up to calm her down which is false.

Source: me, molecular biologist.


Thanks, you answered that well, was about to say same...(and already mentioned the short term thing in my previous post)

Source: me, ex is paranoid schizophrenic, daughter is autistic, (and other stuff that I don't need to get into) which equals lots and lots of reading, consulting with doctors, workers, with a dash of volunteering, etc.

But you know... internet specialists, handed down knowledge, etc.
 
2013-08-01 01:46:10 PM
TTIUWP
 
2013-08-01 01:46:50 PM

devilskware: Why would I care if she has an orgasm or not?


Because of the knife to the throat when you wake up

/i had a bad experience
 
2013-08-01 01:48:44 PM

imfallen_angel: mentallo69: justabitdisturbed: The "cocktail" is not treating her schizophrenia (if that's indeed what she has), it's just sedating her so she doesn't act out.  It takes 6 weeks or longer for anti-psychotic medication to take effect.  Source: girlfriend is a social worker who deals with patients who have schizophrenia on a daily basis.

While true, they do have short term anti psychotics until the long term meds kick in. They are not just "sedating" her the meds are designed to help block certain nuerological receptors for the short term. The way you make it sound is they are "doping" her up to calm her down which is false.

Source: me, molecular biologist.

Thanks, you answered that well, was about to say same...(and already mentioned the short term thing in my previous post)

Source: me, ex is paranoid schizophrenic, daughter is autistic, (and other stuff that I don't need to get into) which equals lots and lots of reading, consulting with doctors, workers, with a dash of volunteering, etc.


But you know... internet specialists, handed down knowledge, etc.

Hands on knowledge is better than books on knowledge or the "I have a GF in the biz".  I do genetics work now, but I studied an assload of Pharmacology and almost went intopharmaceutics. I didnt because I hate pharma companies and what they stand for. I am a treatment kind of man, not a lets temporary fix with drugs kind of man. So I am pretty good with the meds and understanding them.

While the guy is right, they are calming her down. The calming down "sedating" is triggered by other drugs that are in the cocktail. Thats why its called a cocktail. The damn thing probably is loaded with anti-psychotics, as well as calming drugs like .The calming down allows for the other meds to kick in for the short term until long term anti-schizophrenia medication. My pet peeve is that he made a blanket statement saying they are "doping her to calm her" That is untrue and doesnt fix any problems in the short or long term. It makes her a vegetable. i'm not knocking what he said. I am adding a new perspective to it.
 
2013-08-01 01:58:03 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: devilskware: Why would I care if she has an orgasm or not?

Because of the knife to the throat when you wake up

/i had a bad experience


W/ this one you need to more worried about being set on fire
 
2013-08-01 02:05:16 PM

doczoidberg: wildcardjack: Well... they say "don't stick it in the crazy" but what if the crazy is properly medicated?


Then she won't be able to orgasm, and you'll be farkin until you're exhausted and just give up.


Challenge Accepted!
 
2013-08-01 02:10:24 PM

Poopy MacPoop: If you want a Pepsi, pal, you're gonna pay for it!


The just give me a Tab
 
2013-08-01 02:17:21 PM

Mixolydian Master: Poopy MacPoop: If you want a Pepsi, pal, you're gonna pay for it!

The just give me a Tab


I can't give you a tab unless you order something.
 
2013-08-01 02:22:17 PM

ongbok: 1derful: I wonder how Miley Cyrus and any other pop trollop who've recently been banging rappers because they think it's the in thing to do feel about learning they've been taking their ques from someone who is literally insane.

You mad that she is crazy and

you still don't have a She won't snowball you after being with one of those rappers  in hells chance at her?

FTFY
 
2013-08-01 02:40:51 PM

mentallo69: That is untrue and doesnt fix any problems in the short or long term. It makes her a vegetable.


I look at what happened with my daughter when she became violent, one doctor was convinced about one med would do it, and that was a terrible road... she ended up sleepy for the first few days, then back to violent, and this doctor kept upping the dosage.

So we took her to another hospital, other doctor that weaned her off that med, long story short, he  took another direction that within even the first day we saw a major difference in her.

As I said, I ended up researching a lot about these meds., their effect, etc. while staying in constant touch with the doctor (and his team).

So it's with this that while it's easy to simply dope someone up, it's another to have something work.

The behavior, the attitude changes are the first clue that something gets rebalanced as opposed to having someone drooling in a corner.

And as far a "several weeks".. that's a bit much... it's usually a few days, normally about a week to see some results.

As I already stated, then it's bloodwork to see where the levels of meds are at, using proper parameters to see the levels of hormones and other indicators to ensure a balance.

Someone with a difficult metabolism, it requires follow up, but it's not several weeks to take effect... it's several weeks of being followed to ensure the balance of the meds in the system, and to ensure that the person actually takes them properly, as also stated, the danger is someone that after being balanced for a few (days/weeks) may believe themselves "cured" and go off the meds... so this follow-up is important so that the person may get to the understanding of their condition and understand that no matter how they feel, they need to continue taking the meds unless the doctor says otherwise.

It really is a question of the person being able to trust the doctor, which, with paranoia, is technically ironic.
 
2013-08-01 02:47:28 PM

Aristocles: who?


Is on first
 
2013-08-01 02:57:29 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: basemetal: /besides, fark is sick of that gif I post in every negative Amanda Bynes thread.

I for one vote that I am not sick of it


I second that vote. I just wish she took more semi nude selfies before help was on the way :(
 
2013-08-01 03:03:27 PM
after more consideration than this deserved, I hope she makes a total recovery and stays the hell out of the limelight unless it is to promote raising fund for her disease. Her getting back into the limelight would lead to nothing positive.

I held the snark off, I will just go back to watching beiber fall apart even though I am not sure what it is.
 
2013-08-01 03:12:16 PM

imfallen_angel: mentallo69: That is untrue and doesnt fix any problems in the short or long term. It makes her a vegetable.

I look at what happened with my daughter when she became violent, one doctor was convinced about one med would do it, and that was a terrible road... she ended up sleepy for the first few days, then back to violent, and this doctor kept upping the dosage.

So we took her to another hospital, other doctor that weaned her off that med, long story short, he  took another direction that within even the first day we saw a major difference in her.

As I said, I ended up researching a lot about these meds., their effect, etc. while staying in constant touch with the doctor (and his team).

So it's with this that while it's easy to simply dope someone up, it's another to have something work.

The behavior, the attitude changes are the first clue that something gets rebalanced as opposed to having someone drooling in a corner.

And as far a "several weeks".. that's a bit much... it's usually a few days, normally about a week to see some results.

As I already stated, then it's bloodwork to see where the levels of meds are at, using proper parameters to see the levels of hormones and other indicators to ensure a balance.

Someone with a difficult metabolism, it requires follow up, but it's not several weeks to take effect... it's several weeks of being followed to ensure the balance of the meds in the system, and to ensure that the person actually takes them properly, as also stated, the danger is someone that after being balanced for a few (days/weeks) may believe themselves "cured" and go off the meds... so this follow-up is important so that the person may get to the understanding of their condition and understand that no matter how they feel, they need to continue taking the meds unless the doctor says otherwise.


It really is a question of the person being able to trust the doctor, which, with paranoia, is technically ironic.

That is a huuuuge deal. I was going to be a Pharmacology major. Decided against that because as a biologist I do not believe in treatment, I want to find the cures to shiat. Then I thought ok, well maybe I will be a doctor. I got into UCLA and UW med school and I wanted to go into Infectous diseases. (Im a microbiologist by profession) Then I started thinking. I dont want to be another one of those A$$ hole doctors who looks at people like a cash cow and rush my patients in and out of the door because insurance companies want to get as many people in and out of the office as fast as possible.  I want my patients to be able to destroy my brain and get as much out of me as humanly possible to help them. Clinics, hospitals and insurance companies frown on that bedside manner.  So I went into research biology  If I am going to make an impact, its going to be in research. I decided against a 300-400k a year job to work as a research biologist making less than 60k a year.

Guess what, I've never been more happy. Question your farking doctor. Question them till it pisses them off. The problem is that too many people do not ask questions, they look at the Ph.D on the wall and take what they say on blind faith. Screw that crap!!!!

The united states medical industry is one of the top 5 largest economies in the entire world. We have a nation of shiatty doctors who create hypochondriacs because they are lazy. I refused to be part of the problem.
 
2013-08-01 03:34:25 PM

devilskware: doczoidberg: wildcardjack: Well... they say "don't stick it in the crazy" but what if the crazy is properly medicated?


Then she won't be able to orgasm, and you'll be farkin until you're exhausted and just give up.

Why would I care if she has an orgasm or not?


...Wait, you mean GIRLS can orgasm?! When was THAT invented?
 
2013-08-01 03:42:22 PM

The Incredible Sexual Egg: Aristocles: who?

Is on first



Thats what I want to know.
 
2013-08-01 03:47:08 PM

fearmongert: devilskware: doczoidberg: wildcardjack: Well... they say "don't stick it in the crazy" but what if the crazy is properly medicated?


Then she won't be able to orgasm, and you'll be farkin until you're exhausted and just give up.

Why would I care if she has an orgasm or not?

...Wait, you mean GIRLS can orgasm?! When was THAT invented?


I don't know about GIRLS, but WOMEN certainly can. At least, with me.
 
2013-08-01 04:00:13 PM
We'll always have "I want Drake to murder my vagina."
 
2013-08-01 04:12:28 PM
I was sitting in my room and my mom and my dad came in and they pulled up a chair and they sat down, they go:
Amanda, we need to talk to you
And I go:
Okay what's the matter
They go:
Me and your mom have been noticing lately that you've been having a lot of problems,
You've been going off for no reason and we're afraid you're gonna hurt somebody,
We're afraid you're gonna hurt yourself.
So we decided that it would be in your interest if we put you somewhere
Where you could get the help that you need.
And I go:
Wait, what are you talking about, we decided!?
My best interest?! How can you know what's my best interest is?
How can you say what my best interest is? What are you trying to say, I'm crazy?
When I went to your schools, I went to your churches,
I went to your institutional learning facilities?! So how can you say I'm crazy?
 
2013-08-01 04:13:53 PM
Anytime I hear about a 20-something suddenly lapsing into bizarre behavior, unless there's convincing evidence of major drug abuse, the first thing I think about is schizophrenia. It usually manifests in the '20s. Usually the early '20s, but maybe she was successfully medicating herself for a few years, although pot is a pretty much the worst way to medicate schizophrenia.
 
2013-08-01 04:23:09 PM

justabitdisturbed: The "cocktail" is not treating her schizophrenia (if that's indeed what she has), it's just sedating her so she doesn't act out.  It takes 6 weeks or longer for anti-psychotic medication to take effect.  Source: girlfriend is a social worker who deals with patients who have schizophrenia on a daily basis.


Schizophrenia isn't psychosis.

Source: psychosis.
 
2013-08-01 04:32:10 PM
mentallo69:

Washed out of UW, huh?
 
2013-08-01 04:36:02 PM
Cheers to science!
 
2013-08-01 04:57:10 PM

under a mountain: [ll-media.tmz.com image 389x557]


DAMN. Beat me to it.

encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
2013-08-01 05:03:21 PM

slayer199: basemetal: Good, I hope she gets better now.

Agreed.  Unlike Lohan, Bynes is not an addict...she has real mental illness.  I hope she can recover enough to enjoy a normal life.


Way to gloss over how OCD (which is a real thing and not whatever cutesy quirkiness hipsters like to describe it as) tends to render whoever has it to be very inclined to being addicted to almost anything. Look up "addictive personality"... if you're not happy being nothing more than an uninformed jackass troll that is.
 
2013-08-01 05:18:06 PM

BLink_Fark: Anytime I hear about a 20-something suddenly lapsing into bizarre behavior, unless there's convincing evidence of major drug abuse, the first thing I think about is schizophrenia. It usually manifests in the '20s. Usually the early '20s, but maybe she was successfully medicating herself for a few years, although pot is a pretty much the worst way to medicate schizophrenia.


why is it the worst way, seriously just curious
 
2013-08-01 05:50:39 PM

justabitdisturbed: The "cocktail" is not treating her schizophrenia (if that's indeed what she has), it's just sedating her so she doesn't act out.  It takes 6 weeks or longer for anti-psychotic medication to take effect.  Source: girlfriend is a social worker who deals with patients who have schizophrenia on a daily basis.


6 weeks or longer for....antidepressants.  Anti-depressants != antipsychotics.  There's a reason psychiatrists prescribe psych drugs and not social workers.
 
2013-08-01 06:10:06 PM
There sure are a lot of psychiatrists/pharmacologists in this thread...

I think the quickest way to correct the array of misinformation in this thread is to say that "psych meds" are not one class of drugs.  Adverse effects, efficacy, indication, precautions, etc are not interchangeable per each class or even within a class.  Much like how "mental illness" isn't one thing that is treated all the same. Your friend's daughters best friend's sister who went nuts that one time isn't representative of someone else with an unspecified disorder on unspecified medication.  The fact that the SSRI antidepressant Zoloft can take up to 6 weeks to take effect doesn't mean that the atypical antipsychotic Risperidone (prescribed for schizophrena, among other things) takes that long too.  The drowsiness of that Ativan given to someone with anxiety can't be applied to say something like Wellbutrin that causes insomnia, given to someone with depression.  See how silly that is?  It's not even apples to oranges, it's apples to staplers.

And for the Tom Cruises up there claiming that these are highly dangerous drugs that shouldn't ever be given to anyone, ever, remember that this is a person who is talking to inanimate objects and sloppily setting cans of gas on fire in a strangers driveway.  Also, go fark yourselves with your militant ignorance of medicine and pharmacology.

/Med student finishing up rotations, applying for psychiatry residency.  No, I'm not an expert, but I know the damn basics before I unload verbal diarrhea on stuff I have no clue about.
 
2013-08-01 07:03:59 PM

CWeinerWV: There sure are a lot of psychiatrists/pharmacologists in this thread...

I think the quickest way to correct the array of misinformation in this thread is to say that "psych meds" are not one class of drugs.  Adverse effects, efficacy, indication, precautions, etc are not interchangeable per each class or even within a class.  Much like how "mental illness" isn't one thing that is treated all the same. Your friend's daughters best friend's sister who went nuts that one time isn't representative of someone else with an unspecified disorder on unspecified medication.  The fact that the SSRI antidepressant Zoloft can take up to 6 weeks to take effect doesn't mean that the atypical antipsychotic Risperidone (prescribed for schizophrena, among other things) takes that long too.  The drowsiness of that Ativan given to someone with anxiety can't be applied to say something like Wellbutrin that causes insomnia, given to someone with depression.  See how silly that is?  It's not even apples to oranges, it's apples to staplers.

And for the Tom Cruises up there claiming that these are highly dangerous drugs that shouldn't ever be given to anyone, ever, remember that this is a person who is talking to inanimate objects and sloppily setting cans of gas on fire in a strangers driveway.  Also, go fark yourselves with your militant ignorance of medicine and pharmacology.

/Med student finishing up rotations, applying for psychiatry residency.  No, I'm not an expert, but I know the damn basics before I unload verbal diarrhea on stuff I have no clue about.


TLDR
 
2013-08-01 07:24:20 PM

Mr.Poops: Schizophrenia is a hell of a condition. Give her some DMT and expand her consciousness


lol
 
2013-08-01 07:36:53 PM
You wouldn't know crazy if Charles Manson was eating Fruit Loops on your front porch.
 
2013-08-01 07:37:49 PM

CWeinerWV: There sure are a lot of psychiatrists/pharmacologists in this thread...

I think the quickest way to correct the array of misinformation in this thread is to say that "psych meds" are not one class of drugs.  Adverse effects, efficacy, indication, precautions, etc are not interchangeable per each class or even within a class.  Much like how "mental illness" isn't one thing that is treated all the same. Your friend's daughters best friend's sister who went nuts that one time isn't representative of someone else with an unspecified disorder on unspecified medication.  The fact that the SSRI antidepressant Zoloft can take up to 6 weeks to take effect doesn't mean that the atypical antipsychotic Risperidone (prescribed for schizophrena, among other things) takes that long too.  The drowsiness of that Ativan given to someone with anxiety can't be applied to say something like Wellbutrin that causes insomnia, given to someone with depression.  See how silly that is?  It's not even apples to oranges, it's apples to staplers.

And for the Tom Cruises up there claiming that these are highly dangerous drugs that shouldn't ever be given to anyone, ever, remember that this is a person who is talking to inanimate objects and sloppily setting cans of gas on fire in a strangers driveway.  Also, go fark yourselves with your militant ignorance of medicine and pharmacology.

/Med student finishing up rotations, applying for psychiatry residency.  No, I'm not an expert, but I know the damn basics before I unload verbal diarrhea on stuff I have no clue about.


*applause*
 
2013-08-01 08:07:57 PM
anybody who thinks that all psychiatric meds take weeks to take effect should take 100mg of seroquel..

When you wake up 12 hours later you will have a different opinion...

I take 25mg a day for tourettes, and even that is enough to make me really drowsy (take it an hour before bed)..

FYI Schizophrenics and individuals with Bi-polar with bipolar take anywhere from 400 to as much as 1000mg of the stuff..
From what I've heard, most of the "drowsy" is in the first 100mg or so.
 
2013-08-01 08:44:31 PM
Whoever upthread stated that schizophrenia is not psychosis has been eating lead paint chip cereal. Schizophrenia is defined by psychosis. Psychosis includes seeing and hearing things that aren't real (not getting into a Szasz argument or a discussion about objective reality). These aren't typically benign experiences and are often pretty scary. Bipolar disorder and unipolar depression can be characterized by psychotic symptoms, too.

If a person who has schizophrenia is given medication that clears out the excess dopamine they will respond fairly quickly. Often the biggest problems are side effects, which range from annoying to life-threatening (most often the former, but they can be pretty annoying). You can stabilize someone on 400mg Seroquel, but they may gain 25 lbs in a month and show elevated blood sugar. Crazy or fat and possibly diabetic? These issues can keep someone add days or weeks to time spent in the hospital.

dforkus You are a "slow metabolizer" of Seroquel. It's unique to your biology, not your disorder. There are plenty of people out there with bipolar who have the same experience you do. Often prescribers will "push the dose" - 100mg the first night and adding 100mg per night until they reach 400mg. Mule kick to the head.

My qualifications? Doctorate in clinical psych, 12 years in the biz, several years in the trenches with very seriously mentally ill folks (including pre-commitment investigations) and relevant continuing ed. I have always been fortunate to work closely with good psychiatrists and NPs who never tired of my questions.
 
2013-08-01 08:53:24 PM
She'll probably get hit by a car anyways.

\not sure if said already
\too lazy to read everything
\SLASHIES!
 
2013-08-01 08:54:36 PM

preshrink: Whoever upthread stated that schizophrenia is not psychosis has been eating lead paint chip cereal.


fark you. That's not exactly what I said. I said they're not interchangeable (or that's what I mean, anyway). I got my info from my psychiatrist, who is highly respected in this area and whom I've been seeing for more than a decade. I'm not a farking schizophrenic.

Schizophrenia might include symptoms of psychosis, but not everyone with psychosis is schizophrenic.
 
2013-08-01 09:17:49 PM

preshrink: Whoever upthread stated that schizophrenia is not psychosis has been eating lead paint chip cereal. Schizophrenia is defined by psychosis. Psychosis includes seeing and hearing things that aren't real (not getting into a Szasz argument or a discussion about objective reality). These aren't typically benign experiences and are often pretty scary. Bipolar disorder and unipolar depression can be characterized by psychotic symptoms, too.

If a person who has schizophrenia is given medication that clears out the excess dopamine they will respond fairly quickly. Often the biggest problems are side effects, which range from annoying to life-threatening (most often the former, but they can be pretty annoying). You can stabilize someone on 400mg Seroquel, but they may gain 25 lbs in a month and show elevated blood sugar. Crazy or fat and possibly diabetic? These issues can keep someone add days or weeks to time spent in the hospital.

dforkus You are a "slow metabolizer" of Seroquel. It's unique to your biology, not your disorder. There are plenty of people out there with bipolar who have the same experience you do. Often prescribers will "push the dose" - 100mg the first night and adding 100mg per night until they reach 400mg. Mule kick to the head.

My qualifications? Doctorate in clinical psych, 12 years in the biz, several years in the trenches with very seriously mentally ill folks (including pre-commitment investigations) and relevant continuing ed. I have always been fortunate to work closely with good psychiatrists and NPs who never tired of my questions.


From what Ive read, that up to about 100mg or so, it's basically just like a big antihistamine that only works on your brain. Higher doses are required to start impacting more serious disorders.

I've found relief of many of my tourettes symptoms at 25mg.
I started at 100 mg and tapered down to a good tradeoff between effectiveness at 25mg.

I know "off label" usage of meds has a bad reputation, but it worked for me...
 
2013-08-01 09:29:52 PM

dforkus: preshrink:
*snipped*

From what Ive read, that up to about 100mg or so, it's basically just like a big antihistamine that only works on your brain. Higher doses are required to start impacting more serious disorders.

I've found relief of many of my tourettes symptoms at 25mg.
I started at 100 mg and tapered down to a good tradeoff between effectiveness at 25mg.

I know "off label" usage of meds has a bad reputation, but it worked for me ...


I was prescribed seroquel for sleep to counteract the sleeplessness from the antidepressants and it works better for me than ambien, lunesta, or any of the antihistamines. Most of the time 50mg does the trick, but some nights I need to up it a little ( my doctor agrees with me adjusting my dose as needed between 50 and 100mg). Only downside: I am now ineligible for any kind of Long Term Care Insurance ever because seroquel is one of their automatic decline meds.
 
2013-08-01 10:31:40 PM

LesserEvil: It says a lot about Fark that Repo Man is not obscure in any way shape or form....

Now how many of my fellow Farkers own the soundtrack?

/Owned the tape since it was released, followed by the CD when that became available


Hombre Secreto!
 
2013-08-01 10:45:01 PM
Psycoholic_Slag:

TLDR

It said "I'm working on my GED in Medicine, so let me rain my expertise down upon you."
 
2013-08-01 11:22:03 PM
I wonder if this means she doesn't want Drake to murder her vagina anymore...


I'd murder her vagina.  Or at least stab it a little.
 
2013-08-01 11:27:48 PM

puckrock2000: 1derful: I wonder how Miley Cyrus and any other pop trollop who've recently been banging rappers because they think it's the in thing to do feel about learning they've been taking their ques from someone who is literally insane.



"Que?"


He's from Barcelona.
 
2013-08-01 11:34:11 PM
So do I get to fark her or not?

That's really what it's come down to for me.
 
2013-08-01 11:35:02 PM
What a fat, chipmunk-cheeked, greasy train wreck of a human being.  Send her to the rendering plant.
 
2013-08-02 12:58:36 AM

RottNDude: What a fat, chipmunk-cheeked, greasy train wreck of a human being.  Send her to the rendering plant.


Way to live up to your name, buddy.
 
2013-08-02 03:46:31 AM

PizzaJedi81: RottNDude: What a fat, chipmunk-cheeked, greasy train wreck of a human being.  Send her to the rendering plant.

Way to live up to your name, buddy.


Way

Way to live up to your name buddy, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.../ Amidionitrite?
 
2013-08-02 09:24:51 AM

LesserEvil: It says a lot about Fark that Repo Man is not obscure in any way shape or form....

Now how many of my fellow Farkers own the soundtrack?

/Owned the tape since it was released, followed by the CD when that became available


Well, I had the first Suicidal Tendencies album long before Repo Man was even made, so... I win!

/on vinyl
//it's a hilariously good album
///third slashie
 
2013-08-02 09:45:29 AM

Rocket To Russia: LesserEvil: It says a lot about Fark that Repo Man is not obscure in any way shape or form....

Now how many of my fellow Farkers own the soundtrack?

/Owned the tape since it was released, followed by the CD when that became available

Well, I had the first Suicidal Tendencies album long before Repo Man was even made, so... I win!

/on vinyl
//it's a hilariously good album
///third slashie


I was starting to wonder WTF people were talking about with the Repo Man soundtrack.

/no I've never seen it.
 
2013-08-02 09:56:02 AM

MadAzza: fark you. That's not exactly what I said. I said they're not interchangeable (or that's what I mean, anyway). I got my info from my psychiatrist, who is highly respected in this area and whom I've been seeing for more than a decade.


Apparently your shrink needs to work more on your anger management issues.
 
2013-08-02 11:23:51 AM
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2013-08-02 01:15:44 PM
 
2013-08-02 01:18:24 PM
It's a shame they didn't diagnose and treat her before she started surgically altering her body.

She used to be pretty. Now she looks like something a dog threw up.
 
2013-08-02 02:03:20 PM

The Crepes of Wrath: MadAzza: fark you. That's not exactly what I said. I said they're not interchangeable (or that's what I mean, anyway). I got my info from my psychiatrist, who is highly respected in this area and whom I've been seeing for more than a decade.

Apparently your shrink needs to work more on your anger management issues.


That's funny, because I typed out a response to myself (then deleted it) joking that sudden outbursts also might be a symptom. It's not "anger management." It's not anger at all. But I don't want to make this about me, so I deleted it.
 
2013-08-02 05:16:26 PM

slayer199: basemetal: Good, I hope she gets better now.

Agreed.  Unlike Lohan, Bynes is not an addict...she has real mental illness.  I hope she can recover enough to enjoy a normal life.


It's just a shame she can't recover her real tits.
 
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