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(SeattlePI)   Two men die in alcohol-related crash. Granted, the crash was caused by speeding after they stole beer from a convenience store and were trying to make a getaway, but using anti-smoker logic, these are now alcohol-related deaths   (seattlepi.com) divider line 12
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2013-08-01 10:50:50 AM
2 votes:
MADD counts any alcohol in an accident in their stats, MADD counts anyone 18 and under as a child. MADD counts the mothers who were the drunk ones in an accident as both the victim (mom killed by drunk driver or mothers children killed by drunk driver) and as the drunk driver, double dipping their stats. MADD likes leaving facts out of reports "Drunk driver kills two of mothers only three children, Mother injured but OK" leaving out the fact the mother was the drunk driver. MADD has become a political organization. DUI's and any public intoxication citations must now pay to attend class's run by MADD and mandated by MADD's influence in and on laws added to the "books". MADD profits from DUI's and public intoxication citations.  And my favorite, how many leaders of the MADD organization have DUI's.
My sources come from instructors for California Drunk driving courses, Police testimonials, Police Officers against MADD (for it's political addenda), Truth and Fact, the full disclosure of material(s) to the media and public at large.
2013-08-01 10:04:30 AM
2 votes:
If you are drunk, on a sidewalk & someone who is sober mruns you over, that counts in the stats as an alcohol related death.

It's how MADD inflates their figures.
2013-08-01 03:48:06 PM
1 votes:

Irregardless: If you are doing nothing illegal and the police kill you I think it's called murder.


Ha ha ha - oh wait, you're serious! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!
2013-08-01 01:25:21 PM
1 votes:

rocinante721: If you are drunk, on a sidewalk & someone who is sober moron runs you over, that counts in the stats as an alcohol related death.

It's how MADD inflates their figures.


Exactly.

/32% of vehicle related deaths are drunk drivers.
//MADD prefers it be 70% because they get more money from idiots who don't know that MADD spends 85% of their cash on 'management pay'.
///Statistics are fun.
2013-08-01 12:39:50 PM
1 votes:
"Anti-smoker" logic?  WTF?
2013-08-01 11:06:35 AM
1 votes:
The Anti-smoking comment by subby goes to the same type of hype and trumped up stats and false or politically biased laws and coverage by the anti-smoking agenda's as we see here in MADD. Making up facts or leaving facts out or BENDING facts so far to fit your needs to move your bill, organization or political activities is wrong  period.  Asking for facts and correct data or the disclosure of the use of incorrect data does not mean you are pro or con the "issue" at hand, it only means you want to see true data, accurate accounting and true motivations behind the actions.
2013-08-01 10:46:32 AM
1 votes:

rocinante721: If you are drunk, on a sidewalk & someone who is sober mruns you over, that counts in the stats as an alcohol related death.

It's how MADD inflates their figures.



Its not just MADD .... this is the way the NTSB calculates alcohol involved crashes... if a sober person crashes into a parked car with a drunk sleeping behind the wheel you better bet that is an alcohol-involved crash.,
2013-08-01 10:17:06 AM
1 votes:

jso2897: Jesus, mods. Are you giving "you win the prize!" greens to down syndrome victims now?


Yes. The logic of the Politics tab has crept out among the rest of the tabs - greenlight anything that may generate controversy, no matter how stupid the headline or tenuous the connection to such "controversy."
2013-08-01 10:15:39 AM
1 votes:

Bennie Crabtree: rocinante721: If you are drunk, on a sidewalk & someone who is sober mruns you over, that counts in the stats as an alcohol related death.

It's how MADD inflates their figures.

Citation needed.


It's hard to find the proof but this page shows about 10% increase using that methodology.

http://www.edgarsnyder.com/drunk-driving/drunk-driving-statistics.htm l

There were more than 1000 alcohol related crashes then there were alcohol related driver crashes.
2013-08-01 10:15:11 AM
1 votes:
I wonder if there should be a "Whiny submitter of the week award"? I think this one would be a shoo-in.
hej
2013-08-01 10:10:22 AM
1 votes:
What does "anti smoker logic" even mean?
2013-08-01 10:02:31 AM
1 votes:
The article never said anything about "alcohol-related" deaths. Perhaps subby meant to link to something more relevant to his stupid headline.
 
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