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(SeattlePI)   Two men die in alcohol-related crash. Granted, the crash was caused by speeding after they stole beer from a convenience store and were trying to make a getaway, but using anti-smoker logic, these are now alcohol-related deaths   (seattlepi.com) divider line 58
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2013-08-01 10:00:43 AM
Jesus, subs. Take some deep breaths or you'll be counted amongst the dozens who die annually of sandy vaginas.
 
2013-08-01 10:02:31 AM
The article never said anything about "alcohol-related" deaths. Perhaps subby meant to link to something more relevant to his stupid headline.
 
2013-08-01 10:03:56 AM
Free Total Fark for the day? Responding to complaints about never being greenlit? Mods have some pep pills in addition to their morning coffee?
 
2013-08-01 10:04:10 AM
Doing it wrong...
 
2013-08-01 10:04:30 AM
If you are drunk, on a sidewalk & someone who is sober mruns you over, that counts in the stats as an alcohol related death.

It's how MADD inflates their figures.
 
2013-08-01 10:06:20 AM
I think these guys did everybody a service.
 
2013-08-01 10:06:23 AM

rocinante721: If you are drunk, on a sidewalk & someone who is sober mruns you over, that counts in the stats as an alcohol related death.

It's how MADD inflates their figures.


Citation needed.
 
2013-08-01 10:06:58 AM
If you are going ot get involved in a police chase, put your seatbelt on.

There is supposedly a video from a helicopter here in Atlanta where a guy was running from the cops in an SUV and he sideswiped the median wall and was thrown out of the car, over the wall, and in front of a car on the other side of the highway and turned into personburger.
 
hej
2013-08-01 10:10:22 AM
What does "anti smoker logic" even mean?
 
2013-08-01 10:10:30 AM
Huh? Stop trying to make yourself a martyred victim.
 
2013-08-01 10:13:48 AM
Darwin has a drink in their honor.
 
2013-08-01 10:15:07 AM
Jesus, mods. Are you giving "you win the prize!" greens to down syndrome victims now?
 
2013-08-01 10:15:11 AM
I wonder if there should be a "Whiny submitter of the week award"? I think this one would be a shoo-in.
 
2013-08-01 10:15:39 AM

Bennie Crabtree: rocinante721: If you are drunk, on a sidewalk & someone who is sober mruns you over, that counts in the stats as an alcohol related death.

It's how MADD inflates their figures.

Citation needed.


It's hard to find the proof but this page shows about 10% increase using that methodology.

http://www.edgarsnyder.com/drunk-driving/drunk-driving-statistics.htm l

There were more than 1000 alcohol related crashes then there were alcohol related driver crashes.
 
2013-08-01 10:15:41 AM
This is a very tortured headline. Subby must work at Gitmo.
 
2013-08-01 10:16:02 AM
Has anyone remarked how subby appears to be grinding its favorite ax down to the butt in a futile attempt to generate enough sand to rub into subby's vagina, by pointlessly misrepresenting an article? Yes? Excellent.
 
2013-08-01 10:17:06 AM

jso2897: Jesus, mods. Are you giving "you win the prize!" greens to down syndrome victims now?


Yes. The logic of the Politics tab has crept out among the rest of the tabs - greenlight anything that may generate controversy, no matter how stupid the headline or tenuous the connection to such "controversy."
 
2013-08-01 10:21:07 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-01 10:21:07 AM
Dear Subbies and Mods,
Today is the first day of August, not April.  You're five months late!
Farkers
 
2013-08-01 10:22:00 AM
I live in farking Texas and our restaurants are non-smoking. I'd wish for you to die gasping for every breath, submitter, except that I don't think you're wealthy enough to cover your own medical bills.
 
2013-08-01 10:26:52 AM
What are you babbling about, subby?
 
2013-08-01 10:27:10 AM

Bennie Crabtree: rocinante721: If you are drunk, on a sidewalk & someone who is sober mruns you over, that counts in the stats as an alcohol related death.

It's how MADD inflates their figures.

Citation needed.


It's a fact. They don't disentangle causes with Jesuit determination, it's simply: "was there an accident? Did one of the parties have alcohol? Chalk it up."
 
2013-08-01 10:27:38 AM
That kind of death is what people aspire to in Tacoma
 
2013-08-01 10:28:53 AM

TheGreatGazoo: If you are going ot get involved in a police chase, put your seatbelt on.

There is supposedly a video from a helicopter here in Atlanta where a guy was running from the cops in an SUV and he sideswiped the median wall and was thrown out of the car, over the wall, and in front of a car on the other side of the highway and turned into personburger.


My Manwich!
 
2013-08-01 10:29:25 AM
Sounds like a bunch of anti-smoking people in this thread.
 
2013-08-01 10:35:28 AM

TheGreatGazoo: If you are going ot get involved in a police chase, put your seatbelt on.

There is supposedly a video from a helicopter here in Atlanta where a guy was running from the cops in an SUV and he sideswiped the median wall and was thrown out of the car, over the wall, and in front of a car on the other side of the highway and turned into personburger.


That might be better than some of the burgers I've had in Atlanta.
 
2013-08-01 10:38:13 AM
Officer Loretta Cool.....Nice.
 
2013-08-01 10:42:30 AM

rocinante721: If you are drunk, on a sidewalk & someone who is sober mruns you over, that counts in the stats as an alcohol related death.

It's how MADD inflates their figures.


So...subtract 2 from the annual total??
 
2013-08-01 10:43:37 AM
In subby's defense he woke up this morning to find his family and dog slaughtered.  So he's a little on edge.
 
2013-08-01 10:44:47 AM
"Pro smoking logic" has a nice potato to it.
 
2013-08-01 10:46:32 AM

rocinante721: If you are drunk, on a sidewalk & someone who is sober mruns you over, that counts in the stats as an alcohol related death.

It's how MADD inflates their figures.



Its not just MADD .... this is the way the NTSB calculates alcohol involved crashes... if a sober person crashes into a parked car with a drunk sleeping behind the wheel you better bet that is an alcohol-involved crash.,
 
2013-08-01 10:50:50 AM
MADD counts any alcohol in an accident in their stats, MADD counts anyone 18 and under as a child. MADD counts the mothers who were the drunk ones in an accident as both the victim (mom killed by drunk driver or mothers children killed by drunk driver) and as the drunk driver, double dipping their stats. MADD likes leaving facts out of reports "Drunk driver kills two of mothers only three children, Mother injured but OK" leaving out the fact the mother was the drunk driver. MADD has become a political organization. DUI's and any public intoxication citations must now pay to attend class's run by MADD and mandated by MADD's influence in and on laws added to the "books". MADD profits from DUI's and public intoxication citations.  And my favorite, how many leaders of the MADD organization have DUI's.
My sources come from instructors for California Drunk driving courses, Police testimonials, Police Officers against MADD (for it's political addenda), Truth and Fact, the full disclosure of material(s) to the media and public at large.
 
2013-08-01 10:56:26 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Sounds like a bunch of anti-smoking people in this thread.


In all fairness, they are the foremost experts on sandy vaginas, so they would probably know one when they see one.
 
2013-08-01 11:06:35 AM
The Anti-smoking comment by subby goes to the same type of hype and trumped up stats and false or politically biased laws and coverage by the anti-smoking agenda's as we see here in MADD. Making up facts or leaving facts out or BENDING facts so far to fit your needs to move your bill, organization or political activities is wrong  period.  Asking for facts and correct data or the disclosure of the use of incorrect data does not mean you are pro or con the "issue" at hand, it only means you want to see true data, accurate accounting and true motivations behind the actions.
 
2013-08-01 11:08:23 AM
What if a sober person mounts a water cannon on their car but instead of water they spray whiskey and then start running people over but not before the automated cannon mouth tracking high pressure stream shoots enough alcohol in their mouths to get their BAC over the legal limit?  Does MADD count those deaths as alcohol related also?
 
2013-08-01 11:17:37 AM
I'm glad I'm not the first one to come in here to say "WTF, subby?"

But since I'm here: WTF are you going on about, subby?
 
2013-08-01 11:34:23 AM
 
2013-08-01 11:43:33 AM
www.adclassix.com

He's not going to sleep with you, Subby.
 
2013-08-01 12:05:52 PM

lelio: That kind of death is what people aspire to in Tacoma



What does that mean exactly?
 
2013-08-01 12:23:47 PM

Bennie Crabtree: rocinante721: If you are drunk, on a sidewalk & someone who is sober mruns you over, that counts in the stats as an alcohol related death.

It's how MADD inflates their figures.

Citation needed.


anecotal
in germany - fella returning from getting groceries triped on stairs
groceries included beer
resultant injuries were reported as alcohol related

dont know if madd does it like that
but it does happen like that
 
2013-08-01 12:39:50 PM
"Anti-smoker" logic?  WTF?
 
2013-08-01 01:25:21 PM

rocinante721: If you are drunk, on a sidewalk & someone who is sober moron runs you over, that counts in the stats as an alcohol related death.

It's how MADD inflates their figures.


Exactly.

/32% of vehicle related deaths are drunk drivers.
//MADD prefers it be 70% because they get more money from idiots who don't know that MADD spends 85% of their cash on 'management pay'.
///Statistics are fun.
 
2013-08-01 01:25:28 PM
Alcohol is just another drug. These are drug related deaths. The relationships are as follows:

Use related - while using substance

System related - manufacture and distribution of substance

Economic related - get money to buy substance or to get substance directly


These two previously thirsty dead men fall into the last category.
 
2013-08-01 01:58:51 PM

Xenomech: "Anti-smoker" logic?  WTF?


Meaning that every time there is a smell of marijuana anywhere within a mile of any death it is reported as being directly caused by marijuana ingestion.

That is anti smoker logic. It makes no sense. It is related to the maths the police use to calculate the value of a bust which has no relation to the actual value of an amount of marijuana.
 
2013-08-01 02:00:03 PM

Irregardless: Alcohol is just another drug. These are drug related deaths. The relationships are as follows:

Use related - while using substance

System related - manufacture and distribution of substance

Economic related - get money to buy substance or to get substance directly


These two previously thirsty dead men fall into the last category.


What about if you are safely using a drug and then during the process of being arrested the police kill you?

Which category does that go into?
 
2013-08-01 02:13:45 PM
It's how MADD inflates their figures.

those scoundrels!

does this mean it's cool to get drunk and go a-motoring ? cause if so, i'm in!
 
2013-08-01 02:27:15 PM

dready zim: Irregardless: Alcohol is just another drug. These are drug related deaths. The relationships are as follows:

Use related - while using substance

System related - manufacture and distribution of substance

Economic related - get money to buy substance or to get substance directly


These two previously thirsty dead men fall into the last category.

What about if you are safely using a drug and then during the process of being arrested the police kill you?

Which category does that go into?


If you are doing nothing illegal and the police kill you I think it's called murder.
 
2013-08-01 02:28:59 PM

Irregardless: dready zim: Irregardless: Alcohol is just another drug. These are drug related deaths. The relationships are as follows:

Use related - while using substance

System related - manufacture and distribution of substance

Economic related - get money to buy substance or to get substance directly


These two previously thirsty dead men fall into the last category.

What about if you are safely using a drug and then during the process of being arrested the police kill you?

Which category does that go into?

If you are doing nothing illegal and the police kill you I think it's called murder.


www.pslweb.org
 
2013-08-01 03:46:22 PM
 
2013-08-01 03:48:06 PM

Irregardless: If you are doing nothing illegal and the police kill you I think it's called murder.


Ha ha ha - oh wait, you're serious! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!
 
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