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(NJ.com)   Owner of eight New Jersey TGI Fridays pays $500,000 for refilling top-shelf alcohol bottles with rail booze (and possibly rubbing alcohol and dirty water)   (nj.com) divider line 51
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2013-08-01 02:17:29 AM
Things I've Learned: People still go to TGI Fridays.
 
2013-08-01 02:48:26 AM
This sort of thing can also be the bartender robbing the restaurant blind by bringing in his own supply of, oh, lets say Black Velvet to refill that Crown Royal bottle, and pocket cash sales equal to the booze brought from home.

So if someone checks the register and the bottles, it all adds up just fine if you do it right.

Pouring from your own bottle and pocketing the money is the classic way that a bartender sticks it to the establishment - this would just be a variation.
 
2013-08-01 03:13:15 AM
Who would order anything "top shelf" from TGIFridays. Bottles and burgers, or those cocktails with so much crap in them they could be virgin and you'd never know.
 
2013-08-01 09:18:11 AM
TGIFridays started off as a pretty good idea. Then they opened for business.
 
2013-08-01 09:19:48 AM
If you're a customer of TGI Fridays you deserve to get ripped off.
 
2013-08-01 09:19:55 AM
When I want the good shiat, I go to TGI Fridays.
 
2013-08-01 09:24:39 AM
I once had a good time at a Friday's. A waitress had accidentally poured a pint of Sam Adams that her customer didn't want, so she plunked it down next to mine, free of charge. Going back to work after that was pretty awesome.
 
2013-08-01 09:26:47 AM
This is such a victimless crime, why waste police resources on it?  Unless of course the big liquor brands are funding these raids?
 
2013-08-01 09:27:54 AM
so that 18 year old macallan i ordered to go with my jalapeño poppers was really just rail scotch???
 
2013-08-01 09:28:57 AM
Like a TGIF customer is gonna be able to tell Old Crow from a Macallen 18 ...
 
2013-08-01 09:31:11 AM
He should go to jail. Tampering with a food product is dangerous, especially if it was rubbing alcohol.
 
2013-08-01 09:31:16 AM

Ker_Thwap: This is such a victimless crime, why waste police resources on it?  Unless of course the big liquor brands are funding these raids?


Well the state liquor board gets to rake in cash in fines for violating the state liquor laws, so thats why they care.
 
2013-08-01 09:32:09 AM

Ker_Thwap: This is such a victimless crime, why waste police resources on it?  Unless of course the big liquor brands are funding these raids?


Rubbing alcohol? Not victimless. Poisonous. From Wikipedia:

Symptoms of isopropyl alcohol poisoning include flushing, headache, dizziness, central nervous system depression, nausea, vomiting, anesthesia and coma.

/on second thought, what's the difference?
//oh yeah, your liver turns it into nail polish remover, that's the problem.
 
2013-08-01 09:32:52 AM

Ker_Thwap: This is such a victimless crime, why waste police resources on it?  Unless of course the big liquor brands are funding these raids?


Victimless? What about the folks being defrauded and possibly served poison?
 
2013-08-01 09:39:18 AM
Yeah, well other than the rubbing alcohol thing.  Just the general booze switching, where only booze snobs might even possibly notice.
 
2013-08-01 09:42:41 AM

nocturnal001: Ker_Thwap: This is such a victimless crime, why waste police resources on it?  Unless of course the big liquor brands are funding these raids?

Victimless? What about the folks being defrauded and possibly served poison?


...and that's just the TGIF customers who didn't drink the mislabeled alcohol.
 
2013-08-01 09:45:37 AM
I guess this means I've been eating Canadian Mist steak.
 
2013-08-01 09:46:04 AM
Unless you're drinking it straight, most people couldn't tell the difference anyway.
 
2013-08-01 09:47:01 AM

Asa Phelps: This sort of thing can also be the bartender robbing the restaurant blind by bringing in his own supply of, oh, lets say Black Velvet to refill that Crown Royal bottle


The article was talking about top shelf alcohol.
 
2013-08-01 09:49:21 AM

Tyrosine: If you're a customer of TGI Fridays you deserve to get ripped off.


Translation
"If you go anywhere other than Schlomoe's deli over on 43rd st (only a 2 hour wait) or Franks House of Pizza and Tarts on the corner of Aberdeen and 7th, you are an idiot who doesn't deserve to eat"

Not everyone is a foodie who only goes to places that no one has ever heard of or places that are 'ironic'. Sometime you have a couple of crotch goblins to feed, you feel like going out, and you want to get a passable steak at a reasonable price while having a couple of cocktails. Sure, you can go to Ruth's Chris Steakhouse if you want to drop $120 bucks per person. Sure you can go to George Harrison's Pork Pie Palace that is located under a lawyer's office and only seats 12 people for the best pork pie this side of the Mississipie Delta, but sometimes you just feel like going to a chain where you know the food is at least acceptable for the price. I don't go to Olive Garden for authentic Tuscan cooking. I go there because I can get some soup,salad and breadsticks on the cheap in the 30 minutes I have for lunch.

I find myself going to a chain 1 or two times a month. So in the course of a year I'll hit Olive Garden, Applebee's, Outback, PF Changs, Ruby Tuesdays or Golden  Corral a couple times each. If I want in and out cheap Italian, I'll hit the chain. If I want really good Italian, I'll go to the greek guy (who oddly enough has really good Italian AND greek food) down the road a bit. I'll also hit the BK or McD's occasionaly because I just want to get a buger and don't feel like waiting more than a few minutes.

Don't be jerk, because you like to spend more money than every one else. I understand, in that I'll pay more money for better quality. I'm an ice cream snob. I rather pay 6 bucks for a quart and a half of really good ice cream than pay 3 bucks for a tub o' 'vanilla'. But I respect that some people don't care and just want to get some cheap ice cream for their kids who have no sense of taste yet. I only buy real vanilla extract, never that fake stuff. But, I'm not gonna sneer at someone for buying some artifical crap. If that's what they feel like having, then that's their deal. And if someone wants to go to a chain, why the hell do you care?
 
2013-08-01 09:53:01 AM
Yea - guys got 13 locations...

500 grand is a drop in the bucket - a slap on the wrist

This guy was regularly poisoning patrons and ripping them off with an organized scheme - premeditated and planed

If this was some ordinary fark caught poisoning people they would be locked up...

This guy should be doing hard time  - have is liquor license taken

500 thousand feels like an insult to the people - justice wasn't served here, just another example of lenience  to the 1%...


/disgusting
 
2013-08-01 09:55:52 AM

MythDragon: Tyrosine: If you're a customer of TGI Fridays you deserve to get ripped off.

Translation
Not everyone is a foodie who only goes to places that no one has ever heard of or places that are 'ironic'. Sometime you have a couple of crotch goblins to feed, you feel like going out, and you want to get a passable steak at a reasonable price while having a couple of cocktails.


Not everyone who doesn't like to eat at TGI Fridays is being ironic. You can always find a place in the same price range that doesn't serve crap. Seriously, these guys aren't in the restaurant business because they like to serve food, they're in the restaurant business because they want to maximize shareholder value. There's nothing wrong with profiting from your business, but the idea that they got caught doing this makes you wonder where else they're cutting corners.
 
2013-08-01 09:59:11 AM
One thing, though...this was a really wide sweep of offending restaurants in NJ, and there's nothing saying that the TGI Fridays locations were the ones actually trying to pass off rubbing alcohol as potable. One of the bars caught up in the sweep was, but the story isn't specific about which.

I like seeing these guys get their due, but I think the story's damning them a little further than they actually should be - unless it actually was them doing the rubbing alcohol thing, in which case everyone should unload with both barrels.   More info needed.
 
2013-08-01 10:09:02 AM
I used to bartend at a pool hall. The owner was so cheap. He would fill the Jack Daniel's with Evan Williams, Captain Morgan with Admiral Nelson, 1800 with Cuervo gold. Once when I ran our of dish soap he suggested I use Tide because, "It is a detergent"
 
2013-08-01 10:27:21 AM
They were drinking at TGI Fridays. I say let em crash.
t2.gstatic.com
/hotter than sumthin sumthin
 
2013-08-01 10:36:56 AM
The Fridays weren't using the rubbing alcohol, some other even shiattier places were.
 
2013-08-01 10:41:57 AM

hubcity: MythDragon: Tyrosine: If you're a customer of TGI Fridays you deserve to get ripped off.

Translation
Not everyone is a foodie who only goes to places that no one has ever heard of or places that are 'ironic'. Sometime you have a couple of crotch goblins to feed, you feel like going out, and you want to get a passable steak at a reasonable price while having a couple of cocktails.

Not everyone who doesn't like to eat at TGI Fridays is being ironic. You can always find a place in the same price range that doesn't serve crap. Seriously, these guys aren't in the restaurant business because they like to serve food, they're in the restaurant business because they want to maximize shareholder value. There's nothing wrong with profiting from your business, but the idea that they got caught doing this makes you wonder where else they're cutting corners.


Ever see the kitchen of one of those "casual family restaurants"? Also notice that those same chains have many items from their menu in the frozen food aisle at a much lower price point? The salads are usually fresh, I'll give them that. Veggies are sometimes fresh. Seafood, never. Always frozen, and processed to their specs. Out of the freezer, into the pot/fryer. Nobody is making sauces there. Bread? May be baked there, but the dough comes in pre-made, frozen and portioned. Thaw and bake.

That's the reason the store in Kansas City tastes the same as the store in Tallahassee. Bagged, frozen, canned. Steaks and wings are about the only things that are actually cooked on premises, and they come in frozen, sitting in the fridge until somebody orders it.
 
2013-08-01 10:50:41 AM
And the ones using Isopropyl (rubbing alcohol) should be charged with attempted manslaughter. That's like adding rat poison to your salads for extra crunch. Crazy stupid.
 
2013-08-01 11:01:26 AM

Tyrosine: If you're a customer of TGI Fridays you deserve to get ripped off.


You act like this is something that is rare and not done everywhere.
 
2013-08-01 11:02:25 AM

PainfulItching: hubcity: MythDragon: Tyrosine: If you're a customer of TGI Fridays you deserve to get ripped off.

Translation
Not everyone is a foodie who only goes to places that no one has ever heard of or places that are 'ironic'. Sometime you have a couple of crotch goblins to feed, you feel like going out, and you want to get a passable steak at a reasonable price while having a couple of cocktails.

Not everyone who doesn't like to eat at TGI Fridays is being ironic. You can always find a place in the same price range that doesn't serve crap. Seriously, these guys aren't in the restaurant business because they like to serve food, they're in the restaurant business because they want to maximize shareholder value. There's nothing wrong with profiting from your business, but the idea that they got caught doing this makes you wonder where else they're cutting corners.

Ever see the kitchen of one of those "casual family restaurants"? Also notice that those same chains have many items from their menu in the frozen food aisle at a much lower price point? The salads are usually fresh, I'll give them that. Veggies are sometimes fresh. Seafood, never. Always frozen, and processed to their specs. Out of the freezer, into the pot/fryer. Nobody is making sauces there. Bread? May be baked there, but the dough comes in pre-made, frozen and portioned. Thaw and bake.

That's the reason the store in Kansas City tastes the same as the store in Tallahassee. Bagged, frozen, canned. Steaks and wings are about the only things that are actually cooked on premises, and they come in frozen, sitting in the fridge until somebody orders it.


That's pretty much true for all chain eateries.
 
2013-08-01 11:13:26 AM

Ker_Thwap: This is such a victimless crime, why waste police resources on it?  Unless of course the big liquor brands are funding these raids?


I thought it was a mediocre troll at best, the reaction proved me wrong.

FTA:  If there are no additional violations, the state said, a five-day alcohol license suspension for each of the eight accused restaurants will be dismissed.

Nice fine but I would've slapped him much harder on the suspension.  As for the rubbing alcohol, I think a short jail stint is in order.
 
2013-08-01 11:20:47 AM

MythDragon: [...]


8/10. You almost had me there, but you went too far with these two:

Sure, you can go to Ruth's Chris Steakhouse if you want to drop $120 bucks per person.
I rather pay 6 bucks for a quart and a half of really good ice cream
 
2013-08-01 11:46:28 AM
They should pull the whole restaurant licenses of those establishments that are also serving food,too.  If they mess with the drinks, you can't convince me they're not also being really sketchy with the food. 

Especially the ones who weren't just switching brands but actually making dangerous or unsanitary substitutions.  That's way beyond cutting a few corners that few are going to notice or really care.  If they're using coloring and rubbing alcohol for scotch, they're not just swapping talapia for the red snapper described on the menu, or stretching an extra shift past the day dots on stuff in the walk-in as a discounted lunch special.  I'd bet they're doing some truly scary stuff in the kitchen.
 
2013-08-01 11:52:48 AM

katerbug72: PainfulItching: hubcity: MythDragon: Tyrosine: If you're a customer of TGI Fridays you deserve to get ripped off.

Translation
Not everyone is a foodie who only goes to places that no one has ever heard of or places that are 'ironic'. Sometime you have a couple of crotch goblins to feed, you feel like going out, and you want to get a passable steak at a reasonable price while having a couple of cocktails.

Not everyone who doesn't like to eat at TGI Fridays is being ironic. You can always find a place in the same price range that doesn't serve crap. Seriously, these guys aren't in the restaurant business because they like to serve food, they're in the restaurant business because they want to maximize shareholder value. There's nothing wrong with profiting from your business, but the idea that they got caught doing this makes you wonder where else they're cutting corners.

Ever see the kitchen of one of those "casual family restaurants"? Also notice that those same chains have many items from their menu in the frozen food aisle at a much lower price point? The salads are usually fresh, I'll give them that. Veggies are sometimes fresh. Seafood, never. Always frozen, and processed to their specs. Out of the freezer, into the pot/fryer. Nobody is making sauces there. Bread? May be baked there, but the dough comes in pre-made, frozen and portioned. Thaw and bake.

That's the reason the store in Kansas City tastes the same as the store in Tallahassee. Bagged, frozen, canned. Steaks and wings are about the only things that are actually cooked on premises, and they come in frozen, sitting in the fridge until somebody orders it.

That's pretty much true for all chain eateries.


That's the very  idea behind the chain eatery.  The TGI Friday's in Omaha tastes like the TGI Friday's in Vegas tastes like the TGI Friday's in NJ.  People don;t go to chain eateries to get super exploratory with their meals.  They go because they expect that their burger this time will taste exactly like the burger they had last time.
 
2013-08-01 12:13:07 PM

EffervescingElephant: Yea - guys got 13 locations...

500 grand is a drop in the bucket - a slap on the wrist

This guy was regularly poisoning patrons and ripping them off with an organized scheme - premeditated and planed

If this was some ordinary fark caught poisoning people they would be locked up...

This guy should be doing hard time  - have is liquor license taken

500 thousand feels like an insult to the people - justice wasn't served here, just another example of lenience  to the 1%...


/disgusting


It is amazing what you can get away with when you hide behind a corporation.

Let's hope the blue collar criminals don't figure that out. "No, I didn't kill that guy, I was just an acting on behalf of my LLC".
 
2013-08-01 12:23:14 PM
As someone who lives within walking distance of one of these TGI Fridays I'm getting a kick ...

I actually used to go to that one maybe twice a month. Before dinner I'd have two Makers Mark, neat. I never caught them switching out, and yes, I would know. However I am a known good tipper, so maybe that helped.
 
2013-08-01 12:42:20 PM

Fear the Clam: MythDragon: [...]

8/10. You almost had me there, but you went too far with these two:

Sure, you can go to Ruth's Chris Steakhouse if you want to drop $120 bucks per person.
I rather pay 6 bucks for a quart and a half of really good ice cream


Actualy I think all that was true.

Last time I went to Ruth's Chris I got a double filet encrusted with giant shrimp, some  vegitables and a couple of drinks. With taxes and tip I seem to remember the bill coming in at 100 bucks. Now that I think about it, maybe it was 80. It was several years back. I can't be sure anymore. I do remember that it was pretty damn good. The second best steak I ever had. (The first being some frozen T-bones the PX in Iraq got in that were marinated in italian dress from the chow hall for two days and good them using burning pallets on the cargo rack from a humvee. It might not have *actualy* been the best, but it seemed like it at the time.)

And back when Breyer's believed in making good ice cream I seem to recall they were pretty expensive. If I am wrong I apologize. But I can see my self paying 6 bucks for an awesome 1.5 quart of icecream. I'm a lemonaid snob as well. I only ever buy Simply Lemonaid or get it from chick-fil-a. I can't stand that country time crap, and do my best never to drink any. But I don't look down on those who do.
 
2013-08-01 12:50:05 PM
I once saw a recently graduated frat-boy buy a shot of Louis XIV cognac to impress his friends... and then he slammed it as a shot.

That is who is being impacted by this situation.

It's not cool to rip people off, but also fark those guys.

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2013-08-01 12:58:15 PM
My take with Video: TGI Fridays fined $500,000 for switching alcohol drinks (Video)

http://www.examiner.com/article/tgi-fridays-fined-500-000-for-swit chin g-alcohol-drinks
 
2013-08-01 01:02:52 PM

nocturnal001: Victimless? What about the folks being defrauded and possibly served poison?


They ordered overpriced poison to begin with and got just that, where is the fraud?
 
2013-08-01 02:09:56 PM

Pangea: I once saw a recently graduated frat-boy buy a shot of Louis XIV cognac to impress his friends... and then he slammed it as a shot.

That is who is being impacted by this situation.


So a guy you saw buy a drink that they do not sell at TGIF in a place that was not TGIF is being impacted by the situation where TGIF is defrauding and/or poisoning its customers? Clearly, you are a man of greater intellect than I, since I don't see how that works at all.
 
2013-08-01 02:21:27 PM

flynn80: nocturnal001: Victimless? What about the folks being defrauded and possibly served poison?

They ordered overpriced poison to begin with and got just that, where is the fraud?



Terrible troll.
 
2013-08-01 03:05:02 PM

thurstonxhowell: Pangea: I once saw a recently graduated frat-boy buy a shot of Louis XIV cognac to impress his friends... and then he slammed it as a shot.

That is who is being impacted by this situation.

So a guy you saw buy a drink that they do not sell at TGIF in a place that was not TGIF is being impacted by the situation where TGIF is defrauding and/or poisoning its customers? Clearly, you are a man of greater intellect than I, since I don't see how that works at all.


But in what other thread could I dismiss such a large contingency with one unrelated anecdote?

It's about efficiency!

Also the comparison of clientele was a pretty simple leap

Are you posting from a TGIFriday?
 
2013-08-01 03:44:22 PM

MythDragon: Tyrosine: If you're a customer of TGI Fridays you deserve to get ripped off.

Translation
"If you go anywhere other than Schlomoe's deli over on 43rd st (only a 2 hour wait) or Franks House of Pizza and Tarts on the corner of Aberdeen and 7th, you are an idiot who doesn't deserve to eat"

Not everyone is a foodie who only goes to places that no one has ever heard of or places that are 'ironic'. Sometime you have a couple of crotch goblins to feed, you feel like going out, and you want to get a passable steak at a reasonable price while having a couple of cocktails. Sure, you can go to Ruth's Chris Steakhouse if you want to drop $120 bucks per person. Sure you can go to George Harrison's Pork Pie Palace that is located under a lawyer's office and only seats 12 people for the best pork pie this side of the Mississipie Delta, but sometimes you just feel like going to a chain where you know the food is at least acceptable for the price. I don't go to Olive Garden for authentic Tuscan cooking. I go there because I can get some soup,salad and breadsticks on the cheap in the 30 minutes I have for lunch.

I find myself going to a chain 1 or two times a month. So in the course of a year I'll hit Olive Garden, Applebee's, Outback, PF Changs, Ruby Tuesdays or Golden  Corral a couple times each. If I want in and out cheap Italian, I'll hit the chain. If I want really good Italian, I'll go to the greek guy (who oddly enough has really good Italian AND greek food) down the road a bit. I'll also hit the BK or McD's occasionaly because I just want to get a buger and don't feel like waiting more than a few minutes.

Don't be jerk, because you like to spend more money than every one else. I understand, in that I'll pay more money for better quality. I'm an ice cream snob. I rather pay 6 bucks for a quart and a half of really good ice cream than pay 3 bucks for a tub o' 'vanilla'. But I respect that some people don't care and just want to get some cheap ice cream for their kids who ha ...


Nice novella in response to a one line comment. While you're working on your GED in English Lit., you may want to take a couple of courses on reading comprehension and logical fallacies because I made a specific comment about TGI Fridays, not chain restaurants in general. Still, that's a wonderful strawman you built. If you could only apply your talent to something productive....

To be clear I have no axe to grind regarding chain restaurants in general and, like you, I occasionally find myself eating at one. They are what they are and they fill a specific niche nicely.

TGI Fridays, however, is an unmitigated shiathole from menu to marketing (and for the record the same senitment applies to Applebees). If you think I'm unfairly maligning this establishment and feel the need to rise to rise up and defend their dessicated breaded shrimp, overcooked steaks (seriously, I've been to three TGI Fridays and each time I've been told they can't cook steaks less than medium), and watery chicken, by all means do so.
 
2013-08-01 03:53:29 PM
Who orders top shelf alcohol at TGIF? It's shiat. Sure, it's a decent place for an inexpensive meal when the urge strikes but just have beer. Or water.
 
2013-08-01 04:10:08 PM

Tyrosine: Nice novella in response to a one line comment. While you're working on your GED in English Lit., you may want to take a couple of courses on reading comprehension and logical fallacies because I made a specific comment about TGI Fridays, not chain restaurants in general. Still, that's a wonderful strawman you built. If you could only apply your talent to something productive....


Being productive isn't as much fun. Kinda like when my dad would say "You put more effort into getting out of work than the actual work would be" but I had more fun in getting out of the work, so I had no problem with it.
 
2013-08-01 06:15:12 PM
All the TGIF's implicated in this mess are owned by one company, and this guy owns that company:
www.burgerbusiness.com
What an asshole.
 
2013-08-01 06:40:03 PM

MythDragon: Not everyone is a foodie [...]


I just marked you as a favorite for this.

Tyrosine: Nice novella in response to a one line comment.


Sorry dude, but your one-line comment with no context made you appear to be the douche that MythDragon smacked you down for. Your further exposition in the reply made you appear far less so, but the opening lines were still rather douche-y. (I happen to agree with you about TGI Friday's, at least to a point. I used to really like them, but I think they've gone downhill over the past decade or so.)
 
2013-08-01 08:16:16 PM
rubbing alcohol is poisonous. he should be prosecuted for assault or public endangerment.

all cases of food tampering, whether this, or the subway-penis idiot, should be a felony.
 
2013-08-01 09:07:14 PM
Pawprint:

Tyrosine: Nice novella in response to a one line comment.

Sorry dude, but your one-line comment with no context made you appear to be the douche that MythDragon smacked you down for. Your further exposition in the reply made you appear far less so, but the opening lines were still rather douche-y. (I happen to agree with you about TGI Friday's, at least to a point. I used to really like them, but I think they've gone downhill over the past decade or so.)


Seriously? How exactly does "If you're a customer of TGI Fridays you deserve to get ripped off" get extrapolated to include all chain restaurants? If I had said "places like TGI Fridays" I could understand, but I cited a specific example. No context? The context was a thread about TGI Fridays.  How exactly do you misunderstand that? Are you ESL? Sporting an extra 23rd chromosome? Have Fragile X? Seriously, what prevents you from comprehending basic English?
 
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