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2013-08-01 07:27:29 AM  
"wow, that sounds crazy lemme see who could have... oh, its AJ"
 
2013-08-01 07:34:47 AM  
I'd say an ump restraining a catcher from charging the pitcher would be pretty newsworthy.
 
2013-08-01 07:37:39 AM  
What the catcher is going to fight his own pitcher?
 
2013-08-01 07:39:43 AM  
I was expecting Angel Hernandez.
 
2013-08-01 07:43:07 AM  

Kygz: What the catcher is going to fight his own pitcher?


AJ Pierzynski

Also, that was hardly "charging"
 
2013-08-01 07:44:33 AM  
At this point, just about every ump seems to think he's bigger than the game.  I turn on the game and think "which asshole is going to screw up this game?"
 
2013-08-01 07:46:36 AM  
These people paid to see the umpires put on a show. Duh!
 
2013-08-01 07:46:51 AM  

Over_Zealously_Apathetic: At this point, just about every ump seems to think he's bigger than the game.  I turn on the game and think "which asshole is going to screw up this game?"


GAME.

/I knew that comment felt funny...kinda tingly
 
2013-08-01 07:50:51 AM  

Over_Zealously_Apathetic: Over_Zealously_Apathetic: At this point, just about every ump seems to think he's bigger than the game.  I turn on the game and think "which asshole is going to screw up this game?"

GAME.

/I knew that comment felt funny...kinda tingly


You must really like games.
 
2013-08-01 07:54:53 AM  
My definition of Charging the mound must be different than Subby and the announcers.
 
2013-08-01 08:04:36 AM  

usttsdw: My definition of Charging the mound must be different than Subby and the announcers.


a little hyperbolic, sure, but still a farked up sitcheeyashun in the middle of a game.
 
2013-08-01 08:14:10 AM  

Over_Zealously_Apathetic: At this point, just about every ump seems to think he's bigger than the game.  I turn on the game and think "which asshole is going to screw up this game?"


i48.tinypic.com
 
2013-08-01 08:27:29 AM  
The Ump had a shiatload of money on the over
 
2013-08-01 08:29:33 AM  

DoBeDoBeDo: These people paid to see the umpires put on a show. Duh!


Ineptitude is now a show?
 
2013-08-01 08:44:37 AM  

fatalvenom: DoBeDoBeDo: These people paid to see the umpires put on a show. Duh!

Ineptitude is now a show?


When wasn't it?
 
2013-08-01 08:45:22 AM  
umpires are there to preserve the "human element" to baseball.

You know, when they intentionally make the wrong call because they're miffed someone called them out on missing an earlier call.
 
2013-08-01 09:33:43 AM  

skinink: Over_Zealously_Apathetic: At this point, just about every ump seems to think he's bigger than the game.  I turn on the game and think "which asshole is going to screw up this game?"

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Hey - It's Enrico Palazzo!
 
2013-08-01 10:02:43 AM  
Not to sidetrack, but when I was a kid I read that Dizzy Dean once walked up to the batters box and started arguing with the ump, kicking dirt on the plate in the process. The umpire finally had enough and ordered him back to the mound, and Dizzy did so. The umpire then broke out his whisk broom, turned around and started dusting off the plate when Dizzy nailed him in the ass with a fastball....

Anyone know if this really happened? I can't imagine anything like that now - hell the umpire's union would probably press for assault charges.
 
2013-08-01 12:22:57 PM  

Tired_of_the_BS: Not to sidetrack, but when I was a kid I read that Dizzy Dean once walked up to the batters box and started arguing with the ump, kicking dirt on the plate in the process. The umpire finally had enough and ordered him back to the mound, and Dizzy did so. The umpire then broke out his whisk broom, turned around and started dusting off the plate when Dizzy nailed him in the ass with a fastball....

Anyone know if this really happened? I can't imagine anything like that now - hell the umpire's union would probably press for assault charges.


You have to remember back at that time, the term "union" was a filthy filthy word that would get the Pinkertons on your pasty white bottom.
 
2013-08-01 01:08:17 PM  
and most people weren't total wimps
 
2013-08-01 04:28:11 PM  

Tired_of_the_BS: Not to sidetrack, but when I was a kid I read that Dizzy Dean once walked up to the batters box and started arguing with the ump, kicking dirt on the plate in the process. The umpire finally had enough and ordered him back to the mound, and Dizzy did so. The umpire then broke out his whisk broom, turned around and started dusting off the plate when Dizzy nailed him in the ass with a fastball....

Anyone know if this really happened? I can't imagine anything like that now - hell the umpire's union would probably press for assault charges.


Some college kids (I think) did something "similar"... the pitcher threw a high fastball and the catcher just let it go so it would hit the ump. It's prolly on the youtubes.
 
2013-08-01 05:13:26 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: Tired_of_the_BS: Not to sidetrack, but when I was a kid I read that Dizzy Dean once walked up to the batters box and started arguing with the ump, kicking dirt on the plate in the process. The umpire finally had enough and ordered him back to the mound, and Dizzy did so. The umpire then broke out his whisk broom, turned around and started dusting off the plate when Dizzy nailed him in the ass with a fastball....

Anyone know if this really happened? I can't imagine anything like that now - hell the umpire's union would probably press for assault charges.

Some college kids (I think) did something "similar"... the pitcher threw a high fastball and the catcher just let it go so it would hit the ump. It's prolly on the youtubes.


High School.  Don't have the video, but I found this.

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2013-08-01 07:29:07 PM  
This foofaraw started earlier in the inning, when A.J. Burnett appeared to strike out Jon Jay on a breaking ball that struck his foot. (If you swing and miss and are hit by a pitch, it's a strike.) Cooper ruled that the ball hit the dirt, so Jay was allowed to take first on a dropped third strike. As the Pirates argued, Jay scampered all the way to second.

Now hang on just a minute here.  That batter should be out the last time I checked the rules.  A batter that is touched by strike 3 is out. 6.05 f.

Why wasn't this game immediately protested?
 
2013-08-01 07:37:27 PM  
I guess the key piece of inormation missing here is that Cooper didn't see the ball hitting the player at all...this makes more sense now.
 
2013-08-02 01:12:16 AM  

MrCab: This foofaraw started earlier in the inning, when A.J. Burnett appeared to strike out Jon Jay on a breaking ball that struck his foot. (If you swing and miss and are hit by a pitch, it's a strike.) Cooper ruled that the ball hit the dirt, so Jay was allowed to take first on a dropped third strike. As the Pirates argued, Jay scampered all the way to second.

Now hang on just a minute here.  That batter should be out the last time I checked the rules.  A batter that is touched by strike 3 is out. 6.05 f.

Why wasn't this game immediately protested?


The umpire didn't botch the rule, he botched the call. You can only protest if they blow the rule.   He said the ball hit the dirt and got away from the catcher, allowing the runner to attempt (successfully in this case) to reach base.  So basically he said "strike three, passed ball".  If he had said "strike three, batter hit by pitch, take your base" then that would be subject to protest since the rule was called incorrectly.

Also, they failed to mention it in the article, the umpires got together to discuss it and ruled that the call was correct. Not sure how all of them missed it.
 
2013-08-02 05:54:44 PM  

Candygram for Mongo: MrCab: This foofaraw started earlier in the inning, when A.J. Burnett appeared to strike out Jon Jay on a breaking ball that struck his foot. (If you swing and miss and are hit by a pitch, it's a strike.) Cooper ruled that the ball hit the dirt, so Jay was allowed to take first on a dropped third strike. As the Pirates argued, Jay scampered all the way to second.

Now hang on just a minute here.  That batter should be out the last time I checked the rules.  A batter that is touched by strike 3 is out. 6.05 f.

Why wasn't this game immediately protested?

The umpire didn't botch the rule, he botched the call. You can only protest if they blow the rule.   He said the ball hit the dirt and got away from the catcher, allowing the runner to attempt (successfully in this case) to reach base.  So basically he said "strike three, passed ball".  If he had said "strike three, batter hit by pitch, take your base" then that would be subject to protest since the rule was called incorrectly.

Also, they failed to mention it in the article, the umpires got together to discuss it and ruled that the call was correct. Not sure how all of them missed it.


TFA also says that the Pirates swept the series - but they didn't. They won the first four and the Cards finally woke up last night to avoid a five game sweep and end a seven game losing streak.

This particular game was the first game of the doubleheader, which went 11 innings. That was after Holliday grounded into the second or third double play of the game in the 10th with first and third one out. And the Cards' reliever (can't remember which rookie it was) screwed up a tailor-made double play ball that let the winning run come in.
 
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