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2013-07-31 08:19:56 PM  
thank god. we were starting to fall behind the rest of the globe on jet fighter technology.
 
2013-07-31 08:58:56 PM  
I, for one, welcome our America's newest stealth machine of destruction overlords
 
2013-07-31 09:08:35 PM  
Real life is much cooler than stupid games. I've been there.

You could be there too.
 
2013-07-31 09:18:56 PM  
And it's how many billions of dollars over budget and how many years late?
 
2013-07-31 09:22:16 PM  

log_jammin: thank god. we were starting to fall behind the rest of the globe on jet fighter technology.


The F-35 is a giant step behind when you compare its capabilities to the capabilities of the aircraft it's supposed to be replacing.
 
2013-07-31 09:24:09 PM  
Interesting side note:  The full payload is 5 nuclear missiles stuffed with 10 trillion dollars each.
 
2013-07-31 09:28:14 PM  
Other than debt, we could solve all of our problems with less than a trillion dollars.  We could high speed rail the country, fix our bridges and have roads that recharge electric cars...Or we could have this fighter jet.
 
2013-07-31 09:48:31 PM  

Makh: Other than debt, we could solve all of our problems with less than a trillion dollars.  We could high speed rail the country, fix our bridges and have roads that recharge electric cars...Or we could have this fighter jet.


Well, to be fair, that jet is pretty damn cool.
 
2013-07-31 09:51:45 PM  
img24.imageshack.us

^ What subby's idea of "cool" may look like.
 
2013-07-31 09:54:50 PM  

Makh: Other than debt, we could solve all of our problems with less than a trillion dollars.  We could high speed rail the country, fix our bridges and have roads that recharge electric cars...Or we could have this fighter jet.


Yeah, back in my Peace Corps days I calculated that the cost of building one nuclear-powered aircraft carrier -- forget manning, equipping and operating it -- would pay for Peace Corps' world-wide operations for 20 years.

So campaign for and vote for Hillary. She might actually make some of those smarter decisions.

/one can hope
 
2013-07-31 09:59:50 PM  

Fark It: log_jammin: thank god. we were starting to fall behind the rest of the globe on jet fighter technology.

The F-35 is a giant step behind when you compare its capabilities to the capabilities of the aircraft it's supposed to be replacing.


Great. soon the Ugandan air force will be raining death over the skies of America.
 
2013-07-31 09:59:56 PM  
Wow, that looks like a 1 trillion dollar boondoggle, seeing as how they had lowered the performance requirements so it could past the tests, I'm not very impressed.
 
2013-07-31 10:08:04 PM  
Oh, it's an airplane.
 
2013-07-31 10:13:28 PM  

Makh: Other than debt, we could solve all of our problems with less than a trillion dollars.  We could high speed rail the country, fix our bridges and have roads that recharge electric cars...Or we could have this fighter jet.


Oddly, a couple years ago the Federal Government had a blank check for just a little under a trillion dollars.  I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the party in control at the time is the same one you vote for.  Even more oddly, they chose not to spend it on high speed rail, bridges, roads that recharge electric cars (which, frankly, is an incredibly stupid idea), combating global warming, building massive solar charging arrays, converting all of our coal power plants into more environmental friendly plants, building out a larger reaching fiber-optic Internet infrastructure, converting our ageing power grid to something more modern, or building massive water desalination plants.

Also, I'm pretty sure you have no idea how much it would cost to "high speed rail the country".
 
2013-07-31 10:13:31 PM  
cdn.physorg.com

Has been done better.
 
2013-07-31 10:13:31 PM  
So, this program cost a trillion dollars? What would have been the comparative costs of designing three different specialized aircraft instead? I doubt they saved any money following this approach.
 
2013-07-31 10:17:38 PM  
Why would anyone, for even a second, think that image was from a game or movie? There was absolutely nothing about it that made me think that. Not even a little. Are people these days really that stupid?
 
2013-07-31 10:20:18 PM  

Reverend J: Wow, that looks like a 1 trillion dollar boondoggle, seeing as how they had lowered the performance requirements so it could past the tests, I'm not very impressed.


Sad thing is, if it's electronic warfare systems go down, they're billion dollar sitting ducks to 30-40 year old technology.  The entire premise is that they can shoot down things from 20 miles away having never been detected.  But it's all based on super, complicated electronic and computer systems.

If war has taught us anything, it's that WSHTF complicated = useless and death.  This might be fine for blowing up those useless migs buried in the sand of some 3rd world nation, but it's not going to work well once Russia or China decides they can jam electronics just fine.
 
2013-07-31 10:21:23 PM  
Every decade has its over budget and delayed all-in-one plane that's decried as a boondoggle at the time...

www.vojsko.net
 
2013-07-31 10:22:27 PM  

JonBuck: So, this program cost a trillion dollars? What would have been the comparative costs of designing three different specialized aircraft instead? I doubt they saved any money following this approach.


Lifetime program cost.

And for anybody thinking not buying this thing would free up that money for other uses, keep in mind that we DO need some kind of new multirole fighter. Even if it isn't the F-35 (I think this has turned into quite the boondoggle, myself), it would need to be something else that would cost the majority of that money.
 
2013-07-31 10:23:29 PM  

JonBuck: What would have been the comparative costs of designing three different specialized aircraft instead? I doubt they saved any money following this approach.


I've had to sit through DAU's damned classes on acquisition programs.  You underestimate the scale of the bureaucracy involved.
 
2013-07-31 10:23:31 PM  
 Disappointing performance, unsatisfactory radar cross section, and over budget. What's not to love??
 
2013-07-31 10:23:59 PM  
I'm glad the USA is out of debt and able to put its money into RnD again. Also, it's good to know that they have a responsible, trustworthy government that wouldn't exhibit any signs of fascism. Otherwise this project might be cause for some concern.
 
2013-07-31 10:32:45 PM  
What a beautiful waste of money.

I admit that I love good aviation design, but the money could be spent better somewhere else.
 
2013-07-31 10:39:51 PM  
My favorite for the modern day fighters has to be the F-16, incredible maneuverability, pretty good speed but most importantly the only aircraft to cost less then it's predecessor
 
2013-07-31 10:40:25 PM  

Fark It: log_jammin: thank god. we were starting to fall behind the rest of the globe on jet fighter technology.

The F-35 is a giant step behind when you compare its capabilities to the capabilities of the aircraft it's supposed to be replacing.


Yep. Other than it's stealth capabilities it is an inferior aircraft compared to the F-16.
 
2013-07-31 10:42:15 PM  
i.imgur.com /photos/airplane porn/
/different from /porn/airplanes/
 
2013-07-31 10:44:41 PM  
They should first worry about making sure the planes don't explode if hit by lightning
http://rt.com/usa/f35-lightning-design-flaw-360/

But then again, the Pentagon lowered a bunch of the performance benchmarks asked of the F-35 just so it could pass.
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/02/pentagon-downgrades-jet-spec s

And then you have the Pentagon clearly admit it sucks.
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-f-35-would-be-defeated-aerial-com ba t-2013-3


The F-35 is the ugly chick at the bar, when you're drunk and the bartender announces its last call before closing.
 
2013-07-31 10:47:35 PM  

Stone Meadow: Makh: Other than debt, we could solve all of our problems with less than a trillion dollars.  We could high speed rail the country, fix our bridges and have roads that recharge electric cars...Or we could have this fighter jet.

Yeah, back in my Peace Corps days I calculated that the cost of building one nuclear-powered aircraft carrier -- forget manning, equipping and operating it -- would pay for Peace Corps' world-wide operations for 20 years.

So campaign for and vote for Hillary. She might actually make some of those smarter decisions.

/one can hope


Yeah given her record Hildabeast is just a farking genius. The peace corp? Please.
 
2013-07-31 10:50:48 PM  
And I thought that "The Pentagon Wars" was fictional.
 
2013-07-31 10:52:30 PM  

arentol: Why would anyone, for even a second, think that image was from a game or movie?


The blurry black line made it look, to me, like the plane was about an inch long. That made it seem like pretty wild new technology until I actually read the first sentence.

/sure, the first sentence is just the Fark headline, but I never expect truth in Fark headlines
 
2013-07-31 10:57:32 PM  
I thought drones were the new thing, and manned fighter aircraft were being phased out?
 
2013-07-31 10:58:58 PM  
Sledgehammer, meet fly. Fly, meet sledgehammer.
 
2013-07-31 11:00:39 PM  

trailerpimp: Stone Meadow: Makh: Other than debt, we could solve all of our problems with less than a trillion dollars.  We could high speed rail the country, fix our bridges and have roads that recharge electric cars...Or we could have this fighter jet.

Yeah, back in my Peace Corps days I calculated that the cost of building one nuclear-powered aircraft carrier -- forget manning, equipping and operating it -- would pay for Peace Corps' world-wide operations for 20 years.

So campaign for and vote for Hillary. She might actually make some of those smarter decisions.

/one can hope

Yeah given her record Hildabeast is just a farking genius. The peace corp? Please.


I also have a DD214 Honorable Discharge as a USAF E-5, too, and am equally proud of that service.

Anyway, yes, the Peace Corps. I was a graduate biologist and spent 3 years teaching itinerant farmers how to better feed their families: animal and crop science. I served the standard two years and then extended for another. It was the Tzedakah I set for myself. What have you ever done for anyone other than yourself?
 
2013-07-31 11:01:31 PM  

mrlewish: Fark It: log_jammin: thank god. we were starting to fall behind the rest of the globe on jet fighter technology.

The F-35 is a giant step behind when you compare its capabilities to the capabilities of the aircraft it's supposed to be replacing.

Yep. Other than it's stealth capabilities it is an inferior aircraft compared to the F-16.


And inferior to the A-10 in CAS, and F/A-18 in maneuverability....
 
2013-07-31 11:04:50 PM  

netgamer7k: I thought drones were the new thing, and manned fighter aircraft were being phased out?


Manned aircraft are going to remain relevant until we solve:

1) Hackable remotely-piloted drones
2) The moral dilemna of allowing a machine to make a kill/no-kill decision.

So, a long long long long time.
 
2013-07-31 11:06:34 PM  

Fark It: mrlewish: Fark It: log_jammin: thank god. we were starting to fall behind the rest of the globe on jet fighter technology.

The F-35 is a giant step behind when you compare its capabilities to the capabilities of the aircraft it's supposed to be replacing.

Yep. Other than it's stealth capabilities it is an inferior aircraft compared to the F-16.

And inferior to the A-10 in CAS, and F/A-18 in maneuverability....


Well, that's the problem with any all-in-one option.  You may reach the point where it can do everything well, but it will never be best at anything.  That doesn't mean that's a bad thing.
 
2013-07-31 11:06:46 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Every decade has its over budget and delayed all-in-one plane that's decried as a boondoggle at the time...

[www.vojsko.net image 850x637]


Yeah, but it sure was an interesting airplane.

I saw one at an air show in the desert on static display. It had the coolest name for its nap-of-the-earth mission:

Shine Runner
 
2013-07-31 11:08:06 PM  
That's cool, but how many people can I kill in a single strike before people who care about human lives start to wonder if thirty children were worth one suspected terrorist.
 
das
2013-07-31 11:14:41 PM  

phamwaa: Quantum Apostrophe: Every decade has its over budget and delayed all-in-one plane that's decried as a boondoggle at the time...

[www.vojsko.net image 850x637]

Yeah, but it sure was an interesting airplane.

I saw one at an air show in the desert on static display. It had the coolest name for its nap-of-the-earth mission:

Shine Runner


Pretty sure that pic is a B-1.
 
2013-07-31 11:17:07 PM  
with its weapons bay open

www.myfacewhen.net
 
2013-07-31 11:22:34 PM  

arentol: Why would anyone, for even a second, think that image was from a game or movie? There was absolutely nothing about it that made me think that. Not even a little. Are people these days really that stupid?


It's subconscious.

The picture is blurry, which implies 24/30 FPS which is what film/Xbox run at.

The engine is glowing orange, with a teal blue sky in the background.  That sort of color grading also indicates "big budget entertainment fest"

I guarantee that if it was in focus, no one would be saying "It looks like a videogame!"  Which is SAD and STUPID.

OMG VIDEOGAME:
indopakdef.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-07-31 11:25:32 PM  

das: Pretty sure that pic is a B-1.


Nope...F-111 Aardvark. A high school classmate of mine went to the AF Academy and then flew them.

/beyond cosmic
 
2013-07-31 11:28:16 PM  
Meh

img.ehowcdn.com
 
2013-07-31 11:36:31 PM  

fluffy2097: [i.imgur.com image 850x667] /photos/airplane porn/
/different from /porn/airplanes/


Don't worry.  Nobody's worried about your Strike Witches Rule 34 folder.
 
2013-07-31 11:42:15 PM  
And what good is this against the zombie hordes?!
 
2013-07-31 11:48:55 PM  
This came in waaaayyyyy under budget:

911research.wtc7.net

and was a whole lot more effective.

But don't let that ruin your views on 'Merica

Rock flag and Eagle!!!!

maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com
 
2013-07-31 11:58:39 PM  
Meh. If Boeing get's their advanced super hornets right, the navy will just go "nope" and drop the 35C, but might split the savings on another 35B or two.
 
2013-08-01 12:00:00 AM  
Well, thank god.  With the cancellation of the F-22, we didn't a defense-contract money pit in which to pour billions of dollars over the next 20 years.

We can rest easy knowing that your tax money is being wasted as it is traditionally wasted.  On obscenely expensive military contracts.

And just in time, too.  Some lunatics in Congress were talking about putting money into education of all things.
 
2013-08-01 12:11:44 AM  

Infernalist: Well, thank god.  With the cancellation of the F-22, we didn't a defense-contract money pit in which to pour billions of dollars over the next 20 years.

We can rest easy knowing that your tax money is being wasted as it is traditionally wasted.  On obscenely expensive military contracts.

And just in time, too.  Some lunatics in Congress were talking about putting money into education of all things.


Well if the job creators were to put all of their defense contract monies back into this country to educated a base of citizens to build their black holes...

No, wait...less education for 'Mericans....they want too much money so they can have fancy things like a refrigerator, and if they get real uppity; a paid vacation.


i1045.photobucket.com
 
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