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(TwinCities.com)   Mayo Clinic: Congrats to all of our same-sex couple employees on being able to get married in Minnesota. Speaking of marriage, those health benefits you've been enjoying? Get gay married if you want to keep them   (twincities.com ) divider line
    More: Asinine, Mayo Clinic, Minnesota, state Department of Human Services, public health insurance, domestic partners, ripple effect  
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2013-07-31 04:55:42 PM  
Sorry, but it seems fair to me.

If opposite sex unmarried couples are not eligible for benefits, and same sex marriage is now legal, it stands to reason that unmarried same-sex couples would not be eligible.
 
2013-07-31 04:58:16 PM  
No hang on, this is okay. They generously afforded the privileged to same sex couples because they couldn't get married, now they can. There's nothing wrong here.
 
2013-07-31 05:06:09 PM  
iamokaywiththis.jpg
 
2013-07-31 05:07:33 PM  
What's good for the goose and all that.
 
2013-07-31 05:09:11 PM  
I'm not seeing the issue here.
 
2013-07-31 05:24:19 PM  
I agree, if the same rule applies for heterosexual couples, it's the way it should be.
 
2013-07-31 05:58:59 PM  
Yup.  This is good.
 
2013-07-31 06:03:58 PM  
Submitter, you're one of those folks who often finds the big picture to be rather elusive, aren't you?
 
2013-07-31 06:19:40 PM  
E) All of the above (comments)
 
2013-07-31 08:16:52 PM  
Asinine tag is for submitter?
 
2013-07-31 08:19:38 PM  
I'd imagine, too, that if a same-sex couple is committed enough to have both partners on the same policy, they probably got married as soon as possible.  The only thing that was stopping them was the fact it was not allowed under the law.
 
2013-07-31 08:34:21 PM  
Don't worry right wing butthurtmitter, this won't affect you since people don't get married in your mom's basement
 
2013-07-31 08:44:27 PM  
From TFA:

The deadline for same-sex domestic partners must wed to maintain benefits at Mayo Clinic has not yet been set. But "staff will have ample time to comply with the change," said Bryan Anderson, a Mayo Clinic spokesman.

Unless they go back on that statement, imokaywiththis,jpg
 
2013-07-31 08:46:01 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: right wing butthurtmitter


Though it's admittedly hard to tell where subby is going with this... I think you're barking up the wrong tree with that.
 
2013-07-31 09:13:18 PM  

Slaxl: No hang on, this is okay. They generously afforded the privileged to same sex couples because they couldn't get married, now they can. There's nothing wrong here.


This

/equality
 
2013-07-31 09:14:03 PM  
1) I live in Minnesota
2) I'm gay and in a relationship
3) We're totally ok with this.
 
2013-07-31 09:16:16 PM  
Ah, Mayo, the source of many rational conservatives in my home town. And I mean that seriously - the doctors there are why my sex education was so good in the public schools and why the social conservatives always had a hard time gaining traction in that down. Good on them for always offering coverage for partners and good on them for being consistent when things changed.
 
2013-07-31 09:17:31 PM  
I think the only people hurt by this policy are anti-marriage people who don't want to get married regardless of orientation.  It sounds like the previous policy was based on the inability of same sex partners to get married, but didn't apply to heterosexual partners who chose not to get married because those people had the option.

If everyone has the option to get married in order to get benefits, then this is a sound policy decision.
 
2013-07-31 09:46:56 PM  
Is there supposed to be outrage? They asked for it, they FINALLY got it. The company was nice enough to extend the benefits before it was fully legal, now they have to continue to follow the letter of the law in order to keep them.
 
2013-07-31 09:47:40 PM  

Slaxl: No hang on, this is okay. They generously afforded the privileged to same sex couples because they couldn't get married, now they can. There's nothing wrong here.


Yep, fair enough.  I'd love to put my boyfriend on my insurance, but we're not married and don't want to be. Even though we may as well be, it's not something we're really into.  But since everyone can get married in our state, all's fair.  Same situation here.  The idea of the same-sex domestic partnership benefits were based on the idea that these couples would be married if they could be, so it seems fair, so long as they have some advance notice and time to actually get married.
 
2013-07-31 09:57:53 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: Peter von Nostrand: right wing butthurtmitter

Though it's admittedly hard to tell where subby is going with this... I think you're barking up the wrong tree with that.


Only a right winger opposed to gay marriage couldn't comprehend that that's the point. However, I'll agree that it's not totally obvious
 
2013-07-31 10:04:37 PM  
dammit. my "boyfriend" and i were pretend gay just to get benefits. now we have to be for real gay. damn you libs!
 
2013-07-31 10:38:04 PM  
Makes sense to me.
 
2013-07-31 11:01:08 PM  
The mayo, hold it.


images.businessweek.com
 
2013-07-31 11:05:02 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Pray 4 Mojo: Peter von Nostrand: right wing butthurtmitter

Though it's admittedly hard to tell where subby is going with this... I think you're barking up the wrong tree with that.

Only a right winger opposed to gay marriage couldn't comprehend that that's the point. However, I'll agree that it's not totally obvious


Yeah, you're really trying WAY too hard here.
 
2013-07-31 11:05:35 PM  
No, you people don't understand! Health insurance plans renew in October, and June has already passed! An September gay wedding? Girlfriend you MUST be joking!
 
2013-07-31 11:06:59 PM  

Matthew Keene: The mayo, hold it.


Hold the mayo, extra mustayosterdayonnaise
 
2013-07-31 11:06:59 PM  
Reading this thread, I'm glad to see so many people on Fark have common sense.
 
2013-07-31 11:07:57 PM  

mr_a: Sorry, but it seems fair to me.

If opposite sex unmarried couples are not eligible for benefits, and same sex marriage is now legal, it stands to reason that unmarried same-sex couples would not be eligible.


As a gay man I'm ok with this and I don't see it being an issue for 99% of people

/last 1% are people who pretended to be gay to get cheaper insurance
 
2013-07-31 11:07:57 PM  

SpikeStrip: dammit. my "boyfriend" and i were pretend gay just to get benefits. now we have to be for real gay. damn you libs!


If you get married you will end up having less sex, so there's that to look forward to.  Fewer hemorrhoids and canker sores.
 
2013-07-31 11:08:08 PM  
I hope someone jams a red hot poker through subby's eye socket
 
2013-07-31 11:08:29 PM  
"The Unanticipated Consequences of Purposive Social Action" - 1936, Robert K. Merton.

/ibid
 
2013-07-31 11:08:37 PM  
Guys guys guys....hang on. You got it wrong.

The article says in order to have health benefits, you must SPECIFICALLY get GAY married. See? The anti-gay-marriage nuts were right.

Now I have to go find a turtle to fark.
 
2013-07-31 11:08:39 PM  
So you're a Christian and supported efforts to stop "special rights" for gays.  The courts have ruled that you're full of crap.

So now you're responsible for promoting gay marriage.  EAT SOME DICK.
 
2013-07-31 11:09:05 PM  

meanmutton: Peter von Nostrand: Pray 4 Mojo: Peter von Nostrand: right wing butthurtmitter

Though it's admittedly hard to tell where subby is going with this... I think you're barking up the wrong tree with that.

Only a right winger opposed to gay marriage couldn't comprehend that that's the point. However, I'll agree that it's not totally obvious

Yeah, you're really trying WAY too hard here.


Well that's just like your opinion, man
 
2013-07-31 11:10:29 PM  
I fail to see how this rates an "asinine" tag.  Same-sex couples were granted the benefits because they could not be legally married.  Now that that's no longer true, there's no need to grant said benefits to couples who don't desire to marry.  Seems like the correct policy to me.
 
2013-07-31 11:10:43 PM  
What I'm waiting for is our first major scandal... with a cheating politician in a same-sex marriage. Do you think it would have the same impact as Clinton, Sanford, Weiner, Vitter, et al?
 
2013-07-31 11:12:00 PM  
So it begins, and Obama is forcing us to get gay married.
 
2013-07-31 11:12:08 PM  
The rules are being applied fairly and across the board with time allowed for those affected by the rule change to comply. I think that's all anybody really wanted.
 
2013-07-31 11:13:53 PM  
Maybe  subby accidentally chose the asinine tag?

I don't understand how it's asinine.
 
2013-07-31 11:14:50 PM  
So long as they're treating everyone the same (as in, straight unmarried partners also have to get married to retain benefits)' I'm okay with this.
 
2013-07-31 11:15:16 PM  

jayhawk88: No, you people don't understand! Health insurance plans renew in October, and June has already passed! An September gay wedding? Girlfriend you MUST be joking!


My health insurance always renewed around February/March.  What's the deal with certain times of the year for weddings?  I mean, I get that if you want to have an outdoor wedding in a cold climate you'd likely want to do something in the spring or early fall, but for an indoor wedding why is it a big deal?

I'd rather have something in December/January down here, it's way too farking hot in Florida's seven months of summer to wear a tux.
 
2013-07-31 11:15:27 PM  
10/10 Subster... 10/10. Well played.
 
2013-07-31 11:15:36 PM  
Awesome. As long as they give a reasonable amount of time, this is fair.
 
2013-07-31 11:16:05 PM  
Scold the Mayo.
 
2013-07-31 11:16:55 PM  
I really don't see a problem with this.  Years ago after I divorced my first wife and was just living in sin with the now Mrs. Funk I tried to add her to my insurance and was denied because she wasn't my legal wife.   Fast forward a few years after we got married and I was working for a place that allowed anyone heterosexual or homosexual to add their life partner to their coverage no questions asked.  In fact this place was well known for allowing this and there were a lot of folks working there who were either gay or lesbian just solely for the benefit of adding their significant other to insurance coverage.
 
2013-07-31 11:17:56 PM  

jayhawk88: No, you people don't understand! Health insurance plans renew in October, and June has already passed! An September gay wedding? Girlfriend you MUST be joking!


THIS.    Fabulous Wedding....not yours.
 
2013-07-31 11:18:22 PM  
How does this affect the coverage for my box turtle?
 
2013-07-31 11:19:00 PM  
I'm pro-gay marriage and I'm completely fine with this policy.

Out yourself, whinemitter.
 
2013-07-31 11:19:49 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: jayhawk88: No, you people don't understand! Health insurance plans renew in October, and June has already passed! An September gay wedding? Girlfriend you MUST be joking!

My health insurance always renewed around February/March.  What's the deal with certain times of the year for weddings?  I mean, I get that if you want to have an outdoor wedding in a cold climate you'd likely want to do something in the spring or early fall, but for an indoor wedding why is it a big deal?

I'd rather have something in December/January down here, it's way too farking hot in Florida's seven months of summer to wear a tux.


They were joking but to answer your other questions, it's also to do with having to walk outdoors between church and halls even if most of it is inside, in clothing that isn't really made for coats to go over. Plus getting wet with rain, or snow, slippery sidewalks. Ruins any outdoor picture opportunities too. And when you spend a metric farkton on a wedding, you want a beautiful day. BRIDEZILLA DEMANDS IT

/never going THAT route again
 
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