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2013-07-31 02:56:03 PM
www.owen.org

About damn time. We been standin' here like this for scores now.
 
2013-07-31 03:26:32 PM
Insane Patent Posse?
 
2013-07-31 03:26:37 PM
 
2013-07-31 03:39:47 PM
(a) I understand the problem of patent trolls
(b) I respect the EFF and the work they do, even if I do not always agree.

but

(c) I'm confused about what (a) and (b) have to do with each other. It smack of mission creep to me.
 
2013-07-31 03:45:55 PM

worlddan: (a) I understand the problem of patent trolls
(b) I respect the EFF and the work they do, even if I do not always agree.

but

(c) I'm confused about what (a) and (b) have to do with each other. It smack of mission creep to me.


Some FOSS people are very anti-patent. A lot of that stems from the SCO-linux litigation, which the EFF was involved in, and so it may be some mission creep. But that said, frivolous lawsuits or extortion letters certainly could have a chilling effect on software development freedom, and that would seem to fall under the EFF's purview.
 
2013-07-31 03:54:42 PM
Nerdvengers Assemble!
 
2013-07-31 04:58:42 PM
You have my axe.
 
2013-07-31 05:29:45 PM
I actually think it's a perfectly legitimate business model to buy up a bunch of patents (or create them themselves) and then license them to other companies and sue ones that don't pay-provided the patents actually cover what the companies are doing.  Lots of times, the patents clearly either don't apply or the patent office missed prior art and issued them improperly; that's legal trolling, IMHO.  But I don't think just because the patent holding company doesn't actually make anything makes them a "troll" or "evil" all by itself.
 
2013-07-31 05:38:15 PM

Geotpf: I actually think it's a perfectly legitimate business model to buy up a bunch of patents (or create them themselves) and then license them to other companies and sue ones that don't pay-provided the patents actually cover what the companies are doing.  Lots of times, the patents clearly either don't apply or the patent office missed prior art and issued them improperly; that's legal trolling, IMHO.  But I don't think just because the patent holding company doesn't actually make anything makes them a "troll" or "evil" all by itself.


But, the original definition of patent troll is someone who buys up a bunch of patents or researches and gets them themselves, but doesn't manufacture product, and licenses or sues others. That definition has shifted now to "anyone doing something with patents we don't like".
 
2013-07-31 05:40:26 PM

Theaetetus: Geotpf: I actually think it's a perfectly legitimate business model to buy up a bunch of patents (or create them themselves) and then license them to other companies and sue ones that don't pay-provided the patents actually cover what the companies are doing.  Lots of times, the patents clearly either don't apply or the patent office missed prior art and issued them improperly; that's legal trolling, IMHO.  But I don't think just because the patent holding company doesn't actually make anything makes them a "troll" or "evil" all by itself.

But, the original definition of patent troll is someone who buys up a bunch of patents or researches and gets them themselves, but doesn't manufacture product, and licenses or sues others. That definition has shifted now to "anyone doing something with patents we don't like".


My point was even the original definition is too expansive, IMHO.
 
2013-07-31 05:48:05 PM

Geotpf: Theaetetus: Geotpf: I actually think it's a perfectly legitimate business model to buy up a bunch of patents (or create them themselves) and then license them to other companies and sue ones that don't pay-provided the patents actually cover what the companies are doing.  Lots of times, the patents clearly either don't apply or the patent office missed prior art and issued them improperly; that's legal trolling, IMHO.  But I don't think just because the patent holding company doesn't actually make anything makes them a "troll" or "evil" all by itself.

But, the original definition of patent troll is someone who buys up a bunch of patents or researches and gets them themselves, but doesn't manufacture product, and licenses or sues others. That definition has shifted now to "anyone doing something with patents we don't like".

My point was even the original definition is too expansive, IMHO.


It made sense in analogy, not to internet trolls, but to bridge trolls: they hang out, producing nothing themselves, and charge people to proceed.
 
2013-07-31 06:15:21 PM
A riot iz am ugly thing ...

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/about time we had one
 
2013-07-31 06:27:03 PM
i1.ytimg.com
"I hate posses."
 
2013-07-31 06:32:22 PM
I hear they get their patents from New York City!
 
2013-07-31 06:36:54 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-07-31 08:27:05 PM
Unbelievable!
 
2013-07-31 10:55:36 PM
Pervasive government surveillance of internet activities aided and abetted by big Silicon Valley firms that fund the EFF - EFF is dead silent. Someone patent trolls one of those big Silicon Valley Firms? EFF "This Is An Outrage!!!"

The EFF is a Google trade group.
 
2013-07-31 11:12:01 PM

ArkAngel: I hear they get their patents from New York City!


NEW YORK CITY?!?!?
 
2013-08-01 02:39:52 AM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-08-01 03:19:27 AM
i670.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-01 09:30:41 AM
I thought this was going to be about bit torrent movie lawsuits.
 
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