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2013-07-31 07:00:57 PM
Why does Tony Romo pay cash for everything? Because nobody will give him any credit.
 
2013-07-31 07:03:49 PM
Why does everyone get their food so fast at Cowboys Training Camp? Because there's no line.
 
2013-07-31 07:05:40 PM

Treygreen13: abhorrent1: Came for the Tony Romo jokes. leaving disappoint.

Do you know what you call a 416 yard, 4 TD 0 INT performance by Tony Romo? A Cowboys loss.


Does it need saying?
 
2013-07-31 07:06:30 PM
Why did the Cowboys defense perform so badly last year? They were getting ready the Cover Who offense.
 
2013-07-31 07:07:12 PM
*defense
 
2013-07-31 07:11:38 PM
Why is Justin Bieber jealous of the Cowboys' receivers?

Their balls are always dropping.
 
2013-07-31 07:11:58 PM
The net they pull up behind the goal posts for an extra point is actually just Miles Austin's mangled hamstring.
 
2013-07-31 07:14:20 PM
Doug Free began False Starting 11 days in advance of training camp.
 
2013-07-31 07:14:34 PM
List of Pro Bowl game changes came out today:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9525557/nfl-makes-major-pro-bowl-c ha nges

Just let the sad old thing die already.
 
2013-07-31 07:15:19 PM
How do you stop Romo from driving?

Leave Dez Bryant open.
 
2013-07-31 07:19:09 PM
Sometimes just to be funny Jason Garrett speaks only in binary code on the headset.
 
2013-07-31 07:19:21 PM

netweavr: How do you stop Romo from driving?

Leave Dez Bryant open.


weavr, don't make me come over there
 
2013-07-31 07:19:27 PM

Deneb81: steamingpile: Deneb81: steamingpile: Di Atribe: Misleading headline. This isn't about the best QBs through their first 5 years. This is an article about how awesome Matt Ryan is.

Really because I read most of it and they took a shiat on him while trying to elevate Joe "defense save me" Flacco.

I can't wait for Flacco and the ravens to suck ass this year so everyone will shut the fark up about him.

Yeah, the Ravens defense TOTALLY won them a ton of games last season. I mean, they were top TWENTY!

But really, Flacco hasn't had ONE receiver people would say was one of the best 20 in the league in his career. Ryan had two last year.

Yes and you're blaming that on whom exactly? It couldn't possibly be because he had to throw that much since they had no running game while Flacco had almost a top 10 rushing offense with Ryan having one of the worst.

No, not just numbers but ability wise the falcons have had arguably the best set of pass catchers in the NFL the past few years.

The Ravens have had about average at best for Flacco's tenure.

Who's better - not just stats but physically -
Torrey Smith vs Julio Jones
Roddy White vs Anquan Boldin
Tony Gonzalez vs Dennis Pitta or Ed Dickson

In every case no one would pick the Ravens guy over the comparable Falcon - and not just on stats.

And yeah Rice is a star - but Turner was pretty solid until last year - and even then not in the bottom half of the league.


Those guys are pretty close until you get to Tony, let's not act like Roddy is that much better than Boldin. A good running game does wonders for the passing game, to have that good of a passing game with a shiatty running game really says a lot, before Flacco had that there was talk of how shiatty he was.

And you haven't been paying attention, Turner had dropped off the past two years, it was the previous year before when he couldn't even pick up a yard on 4th down.
 
2013-07-31 07:20:17 PM
Tony Romo once overthrew a swing pass so badly, Joe Buck caught it.
 
2013-07-31 07:22:19 PM
What's the difference between Romo and Brady?

One of them came out of nowhere and dated a model while breaking several franchise records, the other is Tom Brady.
 
2013-07-31 07:23:58 PM
Tony Romo once threw a 77 yard pass in overtime of an actual NFL game to a reality show contestant.
 
2013-07-31 07:25:09 PM

Di Atribe: netweavr: How do you stop Romo from driving?

Leave Dez Bryant open.

weavr, don't make me come over there


Hey, in Dez Bryant's defense, the pass hit him in the hands.

I mean, how's a guy supposed to catch that?
 
2013-07-31 07:33:39 PM
Tony Romo once threw a ball so well even Roy Williams could catch it.
 
2013-07-31 07:37:52 PM

Treygreen13: Tony Romo once threw a ball so well even Roy Williams could catch it.


Tony Romo then got blamed for what happened next.
 
2013-07-31 07:40:18 PM

Treygreen13: Tony Romo once threw a ball so well even Roy Williams could catch it.


In fairness Roy Williams posted 1300+ yards with Jon Kitna passing to him, so let's not go praising him for that.
 
2013-07-31 07:40:39 PM
Supposed to be the Thanksgiving fumble picture with Roy looking behind him underneath that, shiat.  Guess I Roy Williams'd Tony Romo'd it.
 
2013-07-31 07:46:52 PM

steamingpile: Deneb81: steamingpile: Deneb81: steamingpile: Di Atribe: Misleading headline. This isn't about the best QBs through their first 5 years. This is an article about how awesome Matt Ryan is.

Really because I read most of it and they took a shiat on him while trying to elevate Joe "defense save me" Flacco.

I can't wait for Flacco and the ravens to suck ass this year so everyone will shut the fark up about him.

Yeah, the Ravens defense TOTALLY won them a ton of games last season. I mean, they were top TWENTY!

But really, Flacco hasn't had ONE receiver people would say was one of the best 20 in the league in his career. Ryan had two last year.

Yes and you're blaming that on whom exactly? It couldn't possibly be because he had to throw that much since they had no running game while Flacco had almost a top 10 rushing offense with Ryan having one of the worst.

No, not just numbers but ability wise the falcons have had arguably the best set of pass catchers in the NFL the past few years.

The Ravens have had about average at best for Flacco's tenure.

Who's better - not just stats but physically -
Torrey Smith vs Julio Jones
Roddy White vs Anquan Boldin
Tony Gonzalez vs Dennis Pitta or Ed Dickson

In every case no one would pick the Ravens guy over the comparable Falcon - and not just on stats.

And yeah Rice is a star - but Turner was pretty solid until last year - and even then not in the bottom half of the league.

Those guys are pretty close until you get to Tony, let's not act like Roddy is that much better than Boldin. A good running game does wonders for the passing game, to have that good of a passing game with a shiatty running game really says a lot, before Flacco had that there was talk of how shiatty he was.

And you haven't been paying attention, Turner had dropped off the past two years, it was the previous year before when he couldn't even pick up a yard on 4th down.


I'm a ravens fan, but you are nuts. Boldin is a possession receiver. He's nowhere near as fast as White an has never been a true number one.

And I love Torrey - great kid and a fellow Terp. But to say he and Jones are of the same class is silly. I think Torrey's a better Mike Wallace, but he's just not big enough to be in that class
 
2013-07-31 07:47:27 PM

Lou Cypher: List of Pro Bowl game changes came out today:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9525557/nfl-makes-major-pro-bowl-c ha nges

Just let the sad old thing die already.


Virtually all of those are huge improvements. The no kickoff thing kinda sucks though. Shorter play clocks? Good. Defenses allowed to play different styles? Good. Turnovers and 2-minute drills at the end of every quarter? Good (especially since lots of people only play a quarter). Clock doesn't stop on sacks? Good. (I wasn't even aware it did stop on them. Why the hell would it stop on a sack? You're down in bounds - clock rolls!) Team captains and fantasy draft? Great!

• Changes will be made to the game clock during the two-minute warning, with the clock stopping if the offense doesn't gain at least 1 yard, in order to encourage offenses to try to gain yardage at the end of each quarter.

Good. (Though I support the whole NFL changing the rule to be like the AFL - you just have to move the ball forward in order to keep the clock running. And it only applies to the team with the lead - if you want to kneel down and end the game with a loss, go ahead.)
 
2013-07-31 07:50:53 PM

Deneb81: 'm a ravens fan, but you are nuts


steamingpile is beyond nuts.

I may have opinions everyone on here hates, but I at least back them up with SOMEthing. He's out here acting like Boldin and White are basically even at this point in their careers.

Maybe we can get him to be GM of his team so everyone can fleece him blind if he actually believes any of the retarded sh*t he says.
 
2013-07-31 07:58:52 PM
l2.yimg.com
 
2013-07-31 08:09:13 PM
Hey, denigrating the other name players to make the QB look better than he is just comes with the territory.
 
2013-07-31 08:12:03 PM

INeedAName: That is a complete joke. Even Arrington has mentioned that they are looking primed to make a deep playoff run this year when they have yet to actually take the field this season.


People making predictions about football teams? The horror.

Arrington is white noise to me, incidentally. He's the least articulate media personality I think I've ever heard.
 
2013-07-31 08:15:13 PM

robsul82: Hey, denigrating the other name players to make the QB look better than he is just comes with the territory when you're in that insane head, I mean.


Should probably make that clear, lol.
 
2013-07-31 08:33:26 PM
Tony Romo once spun out of a tackle from an offensive lineman.
 
2013-07-31 08:46:25 PM
I always like that some people appear to expect players on bad teams to be realistic when asked how they think their team is going to do this year. Rule #1 of media handling: Always Be Optimistic.
 
2013-07-31 09:20:23 PM
The Romo jokes in this comment section FAIL. Can't believe you people couldn't live up to the hype...srsly
 
2013-07-31 09:21:38 PM
Kurt Warner #1?

Looks at stats - Yep
 
2013-07-31 09:31:39 PM
One more jackass twisting stats around to find a way to dis Ken Anderson.

"Clutch records" my sweaty white butt.
 
2013-07-31 09:39:13 PM

JohnnyRebel88: If Romo had the WR's that Ryan did, they would of destroyed the East in offense, however their defense needs to pick it up this year and hopefully Kiffin will help in the cause. Dallas needs to implement more of a running game as well. When the opposing defense knows you are throwing the ball every down, it is easier to guard. but still knowing that, Romo continues to dominate against this. He has talent, and will gain more confidence the more help he gets from RB's and Defense. No one person can be successful, one must surround themselves with others that believe in them, and vice-versa.


But did they really do much to improve the defense (as opposed to just change it) and, more significantly, to get a running game?   I don't see where they've improved much and the prototypical successful Cowboys play remains Romo running around for his life for 10 minutes in the backfield and then making an improbable pass for a first down.  Sure, it was fun the first couple of times back in 2006 and 2007, but it's no way to build an offense to win playoffs and Super Bowls.

Romo is neither the problem nor the solution.   He's just the punching bag that Leatherface and Ginger Douche hide behind.
 
2013-07-31 10:46:34 PM

Deneb81: steamingpile: Deneb81: steamingpile: Di Atribe: Misleading headline. This isn't about the best QBs through their first 5 years. This is an article about how awesome Matt Ryan is.

Really because I read most of it and they took a shiat on him while trying to elevate Joe "defense save me" Flacco.

I can't wait for Flacco and the ravens to suck ass this year so everyone will shut the fark up about him.

Yeah, the Ravens defense TOTALLY won them a ton of games last season. I mean, they were top TWENTY!

But really, Flacco hasn't had ONE receiver people would say was one of the best 20 in the league in his career. Ryan had two last year.

Yes and you're blaming that on whom exactly? It couldn't possibly be because he had to throw that much since they had no running game while Flacco had almost a top 10 rushing offense with Ryan having one of the worst.

No, not just numbers but ability wise the falcons have had arguably the best set of pass catchers in the NFL the past few years.

The Ravens have had about average at best for Flacco's tenure.

Who's better - not just stats but physically -
Torrey Smith vs Julio Jones
Roddy White vs Anquan Boldin
Tony Gonzalez vs Dennis Pitta or Ed Dickson

In every case no one would pick the Ravens guy over the comparable Falcon - and not just on stats.

And yeah Rice is a star - but Turner was pretty solid until last year - and even then not in the bottom half of the league.


And this is the post where I put you on my 'football retard' list to be ignored in Sports Tab discussions.
 
2013-07-31 10:58:36 PM

degenerate-afro: Current members of the 20 million per year club

Drew "Super Bowl MVP" Brees
Joe "Super Bowl MVP" Flacco
Aaron "Super Bowl MVP" Rodgers
Matt "One and Done" Ryan

It's good that Matt Ryan had Julio Jones, Roddy White, and Tony Gonzalez to carry his ass to a payday.


It's also bad they apparently weren't good enough to carry him to a championship and a Superbowl MVP.
 
2013-07-31 11:28:48 PM
As a Bears fan with no experience watching stud QBs, I'll just sit back and listen...

//Seriously, fark you every other team int he NFL...
 
2013-07-31 11:53:11 PM

IAmRight: robsul82: Harvin's first game back is SO gonna be against the Saints, I just know it.

That's the goal! I knew you'd be excited.

Daniels: Are we really arguing here that Matt Ryan sucks?  Really?  The 56-22 Matt Ryan who has put up 24 or more points in all but one playoff game?

21 against the Packers (with one of those TDs coming via a kickoff return) and 2 against the Giants.


*Who has put up 21 or more points in all but one playoff game.  POint stands.

So I'm clear, you're blaming a loss in which the team gave up 50 points on the quarterback?
 
2013-08-01 02:30:24 AM

Free Radical: Kurt Warner #1?

Looks at stats - Yep


Honestly, the best pure quarterback of the era.  High completion percentage, high yards per attempt.. just a farking boss
 
2013-08-01 03:51:08 AM
Rivers is #5 on his first five years chart, and even the pony fans didn't freak out?  Wow.

Damn, Chargers.  Keep staying under the radar.
 
2013-08-01 06:10:00 AM

gameshowhost: Well that's just silly to start Rodgers career in '05.  In Rodgers "first three years" ('05-'07), Brent* Favre started every game.  Rodgers appeared in a total of 7 games over that three year span, went 35/59 for 329 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT.  Gosh, he sure played a lot.

Put him '08-'12, when he actually played in them foosball games.

/*we'll miss him


9 of the top 12 QBs by rating in NFL history are currently playing.  All 9 have better ratings than Dan Marino.

21 Current NFL QBs have better ratings than John Elway for their career. The game has evolved so much in the last seven years to allow QBs free reign that  Its absolutely silly of anyone to compare Rodgers to Favre (or elway or marino or anyone from previous eras) by numbers.  Look at Favre's best seasons, they are at the end of his career.  Now he clearly was not as good at the end of his career, the stats just claim he was.


http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_rating_career.htm
 
2013-08-01 06:16:24 AM

bhcompy: Free Radical: Kurt Warner #1?

Looks at stats - Yep

Honestly, the best pure quarterback of the era.  High completion percentage, high yards per attempt.. just a farking boss


Yeah when he actually started. He equal parts awesome and wtf. No way around it.
 
2013-08-01 07:12:25 AM

xaks: Deneb81: steamingpile: Deneb81: steamingpile: Di Atribe: Misleading headline. This isn't about the best QBs through their first 5 years. This is an article about how awesome Matt Ryan is.

Really because I read most of it and they took a shiat on him while trying to elevate Joe "defense save me" Flacco.

I can't wait for Flacco and the ravens to suck ass this year so everyone will shut the fark up about him.

Yeah, the Ravens defense TOTALLY won them a ton of games last season. I mean, they were top TWENTY!

But really, Flacco hasn't had ONE receiver people would say was one of the best 20 in the league in his career. Ryan had two last year.

Yes and you're blaming that on whom exactly? It couldn't possibly be because he had to throw that much since they had no running game while Flacco had almost a top 10 rushing offense with Ryan having one of the worst.

No, not just numbers but ability wise the falcons have had arguably the best set of pass catchers in the NFL the past few years.

The Ravens have had about average at best for Flacco's tenure.

Who's better - not just stats but physically -
Torrey Smith vs Julio Jones
Roddy White vs Anquan Boldin
Tony Gonzalez vs Dennis Pitta or Ed Dickson

In every case no one would pick the Ravens guy over the comparable Falcon - and not just on stats.

And yeah Rice is a star - but Turner was pretty solid until last year - and even then not in the bottom half of the league.

And this is the post where I put you on my 'football retard' list to be ignored in Sports Tab discussions.


Julio Jones and Roddy White were both just listed in ESPN's top 10 receivers in the NFL.

Boldin, Smith, and Jacoby Jones are nowhere to be found.

Are you really pretending they're in the same class?
 
2013-08-01 07:16:09 AM

xaks: Deneb81: steamingpile: Deneb81: steamingpile: Di Atribe: Misleading headline. This isn't about the best QBs through their first 5 years. This is an article about how awesome Matt Ryan is.

Really because I read most of it and they took a shiat on him while trying to elevate Joe "defense save me" Flacco.

I can't wait for Flacco and the ravens to suck ass this year so everyone will shut the fark up about him.

Yeah, the Ravens defense TOTALLY won them a ton of games last season. I mean, they were top TWENTY!

But really, Flacco hasn't had ONE receiver people would say was one of the best 20 in the league in his career. Ryan had two last year.

Yes and you're blaming that on whom exactly? It couldn't possibly be because he had to throw that much since they had no running game while Flacco had almost a top 10 rushing offense with Ryan having one of the worst.

No, not just numbers but ability wise the falcons have had arguably the best set of pass catchers in the NFL the past few years.

The Ravens have had about average at best for Flacco's tenure.

Who's better - not just stats but physically -
Torrey Smith vs Julio Jones
Roddy White vs Anquan Boldin
Tony Gonzalez vs Dennis Pitta or Ed Dickson

In every case no one would pick the Ravens guy over the comparable Falcon - and not just on stats.

And yeah Rice is a star - but Turner was pretty solid until last year - and even then not in the bottom half of the league.

And this is the post where I put you on my 'football retard' list to be ignored in Sports Tab discussions.


Also, Turner was 21st among backs in yardage - middle of the pack last year. The prior year he was 3rd in yardage.

I'm sorry you don't like the stats.
 
2013-08-01 08:42:41 AM

Free Radical: Kurt Warner #1?

Looks at stats - Yep


Straight from stocking super market shelves to a Superbowl winning career. He may be kind of douchey but he was a damn good QB.
 
2013-08-01 11:11:14 AM

elguerodiablo: degenerate-afro: Current members of the 20 million per year club

Drew "Super Bowl MVP" Brees
Joe "Super Bowl MVP" Flacco
Aaron "Super Bowl MVP" Rodgers
Matt "One and Done" Ryan

It's good that Matt Ryan had Julio Jones, Roddy White, and Tony Gonzalez to carry his ass to a payday.

It's also bad they apparently weren't good enough to carry him to a championship and a Superbowl MVP.


Maybe you didn't watch the Falcons 49ers game, but Ryan missed a wide open Gonzalez in the endzone.

You're also forgetting the two interceptions that Ryan threw in the Seattle game.  Matt Ryan has more INT than TDs in the playoffs.
 
2013-08-01 11:12:52 AM

monoski: Free Radical: Kurt Warner #1?

Looks at stats - Yep

Straight from stocking super market shelves to a Superbowl winning career. He may be kind of douchey but he was a damn good QB.


Douchey? When you think of douchey QBs, you think of Kurt Warner? I can think of PLENTY who come before him when it comes to vaginal cleansing aids.
 
2013-08-01 11:44:31 AM

Daniels: *Who has put up 21 or more points in all but one playoff game.  POint stands.

So I'm clear, you're blaming a loss in which the team gave up 50 points on the quarterback?


Well, if he scored more than 7 before the game was out of hand...and you're giving a QB credit for scoring 21 points when one TD was on a kickoff return and another was a garbage-time TD scored with his team down 4 TDs in the 4th quarter?

degenerate-afro: Matt Ryan has more INT than TDs in the playoffs.


No, he doesn't (9 TD, 7 INT) - his best performance was actually what he did against San Francisco.
 
2013-08-01 11:53:17 AM

davidphogan: Rivers is #5 on his first five years chart, and even the pony fans didn't freak out?  Wow.

Damn, Chargers.  Keep staying under the radar.


Well, he's gone dramatically downhill since those first five years, thanks to the team becoming incredibly sh*tty around him.
 
2013-08-01 12:36:50 PM

IAmRight: degenerate-afro: Matt Ryan has more INT than TDs in the playoffs.

No, he doesn't (9 TD, 7 INT) - his best performance was actually what he did against San Francisco.


I sit corrected.  I forgot he was 3-1 in the 49ers game.
 
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