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2013-07-31 05:30:31 PM  

js34603: My position is Matt Ryan doesn't "suck", his teams win 11 games a year. Your position is he sucks because you imagine another QB would do better than that. Because so many teams average more than 11 wins a year I guess.


Did anyone say he sucks? Of the 34 mentions of the word in this thread, all of the mentions tied to Ryan are from you. We're simply arguing that he's not anywhere near the class of the people he's being paid like.

He's an above-average quarterback in an ideal situation.
 
2013-07-31 05:31:52 PM  

netweavr: IAmRight: js34603: Let me guess though, Wilson wasn't put in a situation where he didn't have to be particularly good and he is already better than Ryan because reasons.

Wilson has a really good defense and running game. His WRs are okay, but nowhere near the level of the Falcons' WRs. Zach Miller is an above-average TE, but he's not Tony F*cking Gonzalez.

You're the moron thinking wins are the go-to stat for QB performance.

Yeah, everyone knows it's the "Clutch Index" that matters.


The only valid metric is number of Russel Wilsons in your name. If
 
2013-07-31 05:32:06 PM  
That is to say, he's not the best QB after five years. He's not the best QB in the NFC South. He's not the best ANYTHING except Falcons QB. That doesn't mean he sucks. It just means he isn't what the author is claiming.

/he is better than I thought he'd be coming out of college, where he did virtually nothing in a sh*t conference
 
2013-07-31 05:33:14 PM  

js34603: The only valid metric is number of Russel Wilsons in your name. If


Russell Wilson averages 11 wins per season and has as many playoff wins as Matt Ryan in his career. He also has a better career passer rating.
 
2013-07-31 05:34:33 PM  

steamingpile: I can't wait for Flacco and the ravens to suck ass this year so everyone will shut the fark up about him.


You want Joe to fhrow a season to get Clowney?
Sorry, but only the Colts would throw a season like that.  Joe will be fine this year.
 
2013-07-31 05:37:21 PM  

Treygreen13: Pretty sad that the only way to get a greenlit  iron_city_ap: INeedAName: happydude45: As a redskins fan, I'm glad romo is the dallas qb

As a Skins fan, you probably want to keep your head down and your mouth shut lest your team spend this year behaving like the Skins of oh, let's say anytime between now and '93. In 20 years you've three playoff victories.

I live in DC and if they make one good play a game, the locals are ready to crown them champs. It's hilarious and sad all at the same time and now they come on the internet and talk trash like they deserve to even be allowed in the conversation.

Kinda reminds me of the Lions and their fans after the 11/12' season. Where'd those guys run off to, anyhow?

They're probably the same place all those Jets fans went.


At least the Jets were competitive for a couple seasons. The Skins, like the Lions, make it to the playoffs, and suddenly, it's 'we're winning the SB next year, easily!'. If I was a Skins fan, I'd be worried as hell about Bobby tripod (credit to DiAtribe) turning in Bobby pogo stick within his first 5 years.

Getting back on topic, Ryan is a solid QB who has great receivers and started out behind a damn good running game (taking a lot of weight off his shoulders at first while he adjusted to the NFL). But, history tends to rank QBs by Ws and Ls (especially once/if they are perennial playoff teams). There are a few (Marino) that can escape not winning in the playoffs, but that list is short as hell. Then there are the guys like Jim Kelly, who have plenty of wins but no rings, so he gets left off.

Bottom line is, ranking QBs is a tricky/fickle feat. Most of the greats have ties, in one form or another, of Pittsburgh (raised, college, or Pros) !!!
 
2013-07-31 05:39:23 PM  

IAmRight: js34603: The only valid metric is number of Russel Wilsons in your name. If

Russell Wilson averages 11 wins per season and has as many playoff wins as Matt Ryan in his career. He also has a better career passer rating.


So go ahead. Say Wilson is better than Matt Ryan, that's been your freaking goal the whole thread. Because one year sample = five year sample when it is convenient I guess.

I don't know though, if I imagine another QB on Seattle, I'm pretty sure the team would do a lot better. If the love child of Joe Montana and Dan Marino was their QB, Seattle would win 20 games a year so therefore Wilson is just an above average QB in an ideal situation.
 
2013-07-31 05:40:56 PM  

nelsonal: redmid17: nelsonal: js34603: IAmRight: Read that kinda wrong. Point still stands that Ryan has done less with more than pretty much everyone in the league. Put one of the actual best QBs in the league on that team and they annihilate all the records.

He's won 56 of the 78 regular season games during his 5 years in the league. How is that doing less with more? He averages 11 wins a farking year. That's amazing in the NFL.

Oh he's only 1-5 in the playoffs, so those 6 games are all that matters. In that case, you should be pushing for a trade for Buttfumble, he's got a great playoff record.

I suspect the Patriots would gladly trade their record breaking 2007 regular season and superbowl performance with the Giants.  The regular season is only meaningful for making the playoffs.

Yes and no. Making the playoffs and winning the SB are probably the most important things in football, but looking at someone's career only through the playoffs is pretty misleading and ignores the largest part of their body of work.

Sure, but almost everything in football is such a small sample that the only way meaningfully evaluate any individual career is through fairly dull defense adjusted per play types of statistics.


Not really. Regular season sample is probably 10-15x larger than playoff sample. Even the QBs who've been the most successful making the playoffs in the last 10-15 years (Brady, Manning) only have 20-25 games or so under their belts. Manning has 220 regular season games and Brady has 177. Those have have career splits against teams that are larger than most playoff records.
 
2013-07-31 05:41:45 PM  
Seattle will be interesting to watch this year. I suspect they're going to severely under-perform, but we'll see.
 
2013-07-31 05:41:53 PM  

js34603: So go ahead. Say Wilson is better than Matt Ryan, that's been your freaking goal the whole thread.


No, my goal has been to point out that Ryan is in possibly the cushiest situation in the league for a QB to put up numbers, and that he's a lot more of a beneficiary of his team than his team is a beneficiary of him.

But yeah, Sidney Rice and Golden Tate, you'd totally want those guys as your WRs over Roddy White and Julio Jones.
 
2013-07-31 05:42:38 PM  

IAmRight: js34603: So go ahead. Say Wilson is better than Matt Ryan, that's been your freaking goal the whole thread.

No, my goal has been to point out that Ryan is in possibly the cushiest situation in the league for a QB to put up numbers, and that he's a lot more of a beneficiary of his team than his team is a beneficiary of him.

But yeah, Sidney Rice and Golden Tate, you'd totally want those guys as your WRs over Roddy White and Julio Jones.


That's Denver and New England. Hell they made Orton, Tebow and Cassell look good.
 
2013-07-31 05:43:17 PM  

js34603: If the love child of Joe Montana and Dan Marino was their QB,


There are no butt-babies in the NFL. Except Sanchez.
 
2013-07-31 05:43:24 PM  

netweavr: Seattle will be interesting to watch this year. I suspect they're going to severely under-perform, but we'll see.


Yeah, you and other dumb people feel that way. =D

/upset we couldn't keep Flynn
//glad he gets a chance to actually play
///no shame in riding the bench behind the league MVP and a Rookie of the Year (depending on who awarded it)
 
2013-07-31 05:44:56 PM  

IAmRight: netweavr: Seattle will be interesting to watch this year. I suspect they're going to severely under-perform, but we'll see.

Yeah, you and other dumb people feel that way. =D

/upset we couldn't keep Flynn
//glad he gets a chance to actually play
///no shame in riding the bench behind the league MVP and a Rookie of the Year (depending on who awarded it)


Harvin and Rice being out definitely isn't going to help.
 
2013-07-31 05:45:29 PM  

IAmRight: That is to say, he's not the best QB after five years. He's not the best QB in the NFC South. He's not the best ANYTHING except Falcons QB. That doesn't mean he sucks. It just means he isn't what the author is claiming.

/he is better than I thought he'd be coming out of college, where he did virtually nothing in a sh*t conference


Dude, like you said, he has decent, but not great numbers, and a pretty good supporting team. The media LOVES to hype players from emerging teams or teams finally breaking the playoff barrier. Why is it him instead of Jones, that they are hyping? You got me. Jones, IMO has been a MASSIVE difference maker for them. I still see them finishing 2nd behind the Saints with T.B. licking at their heels (and depending on random upsets, possibly passing them).
 
2013-07-31 05:49:50 PM  

redmid17: Harvin and Rice being out definitely isn't going to help.


Rice isn't out; Harvin was never really on the team so it's not like it's an issue. All the same, if Harvin is going to play half-seasons, I'd rather he be a bye-week addition and come on for the playoff push and playoffs than have him for the first half of the year.

Wilson's improvement should be enough - we didn't lose anyone of importance (well, Clemons still isn't back from his injury - thanks FedEx Field and your general sh*ttiness!), so we're the same team that was handing out smackdowns toward the end of the year.

League f*cked us with as many early starts as possible though while San Fran only has one.
 
2013-07-31 05:50:36 PM  

IAmRight: netweavr: Seattle will be interesting to watch this year. I suspect they're going to severely under-perform, but we'll see.

Yeah, you and other dumb people feel that way. =D

/upset we couldn't keep Flynn
//glad he gets a chance to actually play
///no shame in riding the bench behind the league MVP and a Rookie of the Year (depending on who awarded it)


I have moderate hope that Flynn won't get obliterated by Denver's defense during the 4th game of the year. If he survives, I'm willing to call the season a success at this point.

As for Seattle, I dunno man, it just feels like they're trying too hard. Like they're going to burnout before the season really gets going.
 
2013-07-31 05:51:33 PM  
3rd game. Apparently I wasn't remembering the schedule correctly.
 
2013-07-31 05:51:51 PM  
filler.

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2013-07-31 05:52:54 PM  
Are we really arguing here that Matt Ryan sucks?  Really?  The 56-22 Matt Ryan who has put up 24 or more points in all but one playoff game?
 
2013-07-31 05:53:06 PM  

IAmRight: redmid17: Harvin and Rice being out definitely isn't going to help.

Rice isn't out; Harvin was never really on the team so it's not like it's an issue. All the same, if Harvin is going to play half-seasons, I'd rather he be a bye-week addition and come on for the playoff push and playoffs than have him for the first half of the year.

Wilson's improvement should be enough - we didn't lose anyone of importance (well, Clemons still isn't back from his injury - thanks FedEx Field and your general sh*ttiness!), so we're the same team that was handing out smackdowns toward the end of the year.

League f*cked us with as many early starts as possible though while San Fran only has one.


SF got f*cked hard a couple years ago with a Sunday night -> Thursday game. The schedule giveth and the schedule taketh away.
 
2013-07-31 05:54:01 PM  

Deneb81: steamingpile: Di Atribe: Misleading headline. This isn't about the best QBs through their first 5 years. This is an article about how awesome Matt Ryan is.

Really because I read most of it and they took a shiat on him while trying to elevate Joe "defense save me" Flacco.

I can't wait for Flacco and the ravens to suck ass this year so everyone will shut the fark up about him.

Yeah, the Ravens defense TOTALLY won them a ton of games last season. I mean, they were top TWENTY!

But really, Flacco hasn't had ONE receiver people would say was one of the best 20 in the league in his career. Ryan had two last year.


Yes and you're blaming that on whom exactly? It couldn't possibly be because he had to throw that much since they had no running game while Flacco had almost a top 10 rushing offense with Ryan having one of the worst.
 
2013-07-31 05:54:20 PM  

Daniels: Are we really arguing here that Matt Ryan sucks?  Really?  The 56-22 Matt Ryan who has put up 24 or more points in all but one playoff game?


Nobody's seriously arguing Ryan sucks. They're arguing the article is crap.
 
2013-07-31 05:56:07 PM  

netweavr: IAmRight: js34603: So go ahead. Say Wilson is better than Matt Ryan, that's been your freaking goal the whole thread.

No, my goal has been to point out that Ryan is in possibly the cushiest situation in the league for a QB to put up numbers, and that he's a lot more of a beneficiary of his team than his team is a beneficiary of him.

But yeah, Sidney Rice and Golden Tate, you'd totally want those guys as your WRs over Roddy White and Julio Jones.

That's Denver and New England. Hell they made Orton, Tebow and Cassell look good.


Demaryius Thomas is a beast and Decker / Welker are very solid, but I'd still take throwing to White and Jones in a Dome for eight games a year.

Amendola, Jenkins, and Edelman don't even rank.  Gronk by himself (when he's healthy) doesn't exactly offset matters.

Orton didn't look "good" in Denver, he looked "okay".
Tebow looked awful.  He constantly got bailed out by the defense. Orton was a better QB, but not good enough to derail the Tebow hype train.
Cassell, well his 2010 season was serviceable.  He's also better than Tyler Palko.
 
2013-07-31 05:56:09 PM  

IAmRight: Rice isn't out; Harvin was never really on the team so it's not like it's an issue. All the same, if Harvin is going to play half-seasons, I'd rather he be a bye-week addition and come on for the playoff push and playoffs than have him for the first half of the year.


Harvin's first game back is SO gonna be against the Saints, I just know it.
 
2013-07-31 05:56:56 PM  

kronicfeld: JohnnyRebel88: If Romo's receivers didn't drop so many passes, statistically he would be far better than his already awesome numbers. Romo haters are pathetic.

TIL that only Cowboys receivers drop passes.



This is the reason I select him for my QB in FF, besides the fact that I love dem Boys.  If there was something to criticize, I would do so.  He has great elusive speed, almost as good as Steve Youngs, and before Dez came to town, he only had Witten to rely on as a consistent receiver.  Miles Austin, a few years ago, had a breakout year.  He was paid handsomely for it, than he became a pussy with alligator arms.  Dez is the future, and hopefully they can be better than Troy and Irvin.  If I remember correctly, Tony Romo has broken several of Aikmans records so far, and Dez just came into himself in the 2nd half of the year.  If that boy gets better, he will be unstoppable.  He is a powerhouse with hands.

Di Atribe:

I try not to be a biased fan, but I wouldn't want Tony Romo playing against The Cowboys with this current line-up.  And thanks for the kind words.  I think this Romo cliche is getting old and people need something new and TRUE to poke fun at.  Ideas?  If Romo had the WR's that Ryan did, they would of destroyed the East in offense, however their defense needs to pick it up this year and hopefully Kiffin will help in the cause.  Dallas needs to implement more of a running game as well.  When the opposing defense knows you are throwing the ball every down, it is easier to guard. but still knowing that, Romo continues to dominate against this.  He has talent, and will gain more confidence the more help he gets from RB's and Defense.  No one person can be successful, one must surround themselves with others that believe in them, and vice-versa.

Go Boys 2004+!
 
2013-07-31 05:59:26 PM  

degenerate-afro: netweavr: IAmRight: js34603: So go ahead. Say Wilson is better than Matt Ryan, that's been your freaking goal the whole thread.

No, my goal has been to point out that Ryan is in possibly the cushiest situation in the league for a QB to put up numbers, and that he's a lot more of a beneficiary of his team than his team is a beneficiary of him.

But yeah, Sidney Rice and Golden Tate, you'd totally want those guys as your WRs over Roddy White and Julio Jones.

That's Denver and New England. Hell they made Orton, Tebow and Cassell look good.

Demaryius Thomas is a beast and Decker / Welker are very solid, but I'd still take throwing to White and Jones in a Dome for eight games a year.

Amendola, Jenkins, and Edelman don't even rank.  Gronk by himself (when he's healthy) doesn't exactly offset matters.

Orton didn't look "good" in Denver, he looked "okay".
Tebow looked awful.  He constantly got bailed out by the defense. Orton was a better QB, but not good enough to derail the Tebow hype train.
Cassell, well his 2010 season was serviceable.  He's also better than Tyler Palko.


Yeah, you're convincing me. Atlanta's got a really solid offense and the draft has definitely been handled well by them in the last few years. I still think New England's been overrated and benefiting from a craptacular division for over 5 years.
 
2013-07-31 06:04:27 PM  

robsul82: Harvin's first game back is SO gonna be against the Saints, I just know it.


That's the goal! I knew you'd be excited.

Daniels: Are we really arguing here that Matt Ryan sucks?  Really?  The 56-22 Matt Ryan who has put up 24 or more points in all but one playoff game?


21 against the Packers (with one of those TDs coming via a kickoff return) and 2 against the Giants.
 
2013-07-31 06:06:16 PM  

IAmRight: js34603: My position is Matt Ryan doesn't "suck", his teams win 11 games a year. Your position is he sucks because you imagine another QB would do better than that. Because so many teams average more than 11 wins a year I guess.

Did anyone say he sucks? Of the 34 mentions of the word in this thread, all of the mentions tied to Ryan are from you. We're simply arguing that he's not anywhere near the class of the people he's being paid like.

He's an above-average quarterback in an ideal situation.


Don't bother arguing with him, he hates on a lot and never admits when a player may be decent, hell I hate the taints but can admit they got a lucky signing when they got Brees. But not douchey righty, he always believes his opinion is above even NFL experts, either that or he's an epic level troll for the past 3-4 years.
 
2013-07-31 06:08:26 PM  

IAmRight: robsul82: Harvin's first game back is SO gonna be against the Saints, I just know it.

That's the goal! I knew you'd be excited.


Should've seen my face drop when I went to check the schedule on my phone and went "3 months, 4 months...faaaaaaaaaark."

IAmRight: and 2 against the Giants.


Hey, all time first and only.
 
2013-07-31 06:16:37 PM  

Treygreen13: js34603: If the love child of Joe Montana and Dan Marino was their QB,

There are no butt-babies in the NFL. Except Sanchez.


WHAT DID YOU SAY?

i27.photobucket.com

It's so hypnotizing. If I should ever encounter a bout with amnesia, I should just watch this gif.
 
2013-07-31 06:17:33 PM  

IAmRight: redmid17: Harvin and Rice being out definitely isn't going to help.

Rice isn't out; Harvin was never really on the team so it's not like it's an issue. All the same, if Harvin is going to play half-seasons, I'd rather he be a bye-week addition and come on for the playoff push and playoffs than have him for the first half of the year.

Wilson's improvement should be enough - we didn't lose anyone of importance (well, Clemons still isn't back from his injury - thanks FedEx Field and your general sh*ttiness!), so we're the same team that was handing out smackdowns toward the end of the year.

League f*cked us with as many early starts as possible though while San Fran only has one.


I thought Rice was on the PUP and just had surgery. Mayhaps I didn't read closely enough
 
2013-07-31 06:17:37 PM  

Di Atribe: Treygreen13: js34603: If the love child of Joe Montana and Dan Marino was their QB,

There are no butt-babies in the NFL. Except Sanchez.

WHAT DID YOU SAY?

[i27.photobucket.com image 330x154]

It's so hypnotizing. If I should ever encounter a bout with amnesia, I should just watch this gif.


I'm just happy He Who Shall Not Be Named isn't as prevalent for sacking himself.
 
2013-07-31 06:18:28 PM  

steamingpile: Don't bother arguing with him, he hates on a lot and never admits when a player may be decent, hell I hate the taints but can admit they got a lucky signing when they got Brees. But not douchey righty, he always believes his opinion is above even NFL experts, either that or he's an epic level troll for the past 3-4 years.


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Lip service out of nowhere about Brees is just darling, though.  Oh, and about who's a troll and who's not -

i63.photobucket.com

is a pretty good encapsulation of What Happens When the Entire Thread's Had Enough of steamingpile's Nonsense.
 
2013-07-31 06:19:13 PM  

robsul82: IAmRight: and 2 against the Giants.

Hey, all time first and only.


And against the Packers one of those was a KR TD and another was scored in the 4th quarter of a game the Falcons were losing 42-14 at the time. Truly, he is one of the greats.

/dammit if the Seahawks D just covers someone on that last drive we could also be discussing his two three-and-outs and an INT which allowed the Seahawks back in that game
//or if the Seahawks killed the clock instead of running it in on first down from the 2
///knew Seattle left too much time on the clock and they were going to lose as Lynch scored, because that's how Seattle teams roll...still sucked to see it actually happen though
 
2013-07-31 06:20:15 PM  

netweavr: IAmRight: js34603: So go ahead. Say Wilson is better than Matt Ryan, that's been your freaking goal the whole thread.

No, my goal has been to point out that Ryan is in possibly the cushiest situation in the league for a QB to put up numbers, and that he's a lot more of a beneficiary of his team than his team is a beneficiary of him.

But yeah, Sidney Rice and Golden Tate, you'd totally want those guys as your WRs over Roddy White and Julio Jones.

That's Denver and New England. Hell they made Orton, Tebow and Cassell look good.


He keeps saying that he had an easy gig with a great team but its not true, without Ryan the falcons are at best a 8-9 win team and that's if everything goes right. With him they fark up quite a few games and still make the playoffs, until last year they had shiat defenses and crapp O line play but he acts like they were great.
 
2013-07-31 06:21:12 PM  

redmid17: I thought Rice was on the PUP and just had surgery. Mayhaps I didn't read closely enough


WTF a day ago it was that he was in Switzerland for a non-surgical procedure. Harvin was the one having surgery...the interwebz say so as well. Don't try to do that to me!

/if he does I hope the Bills release Brandon Kaufman because they have too many young WRs and the Seahawks get him
//shoulda drafted him in the 7th round
 
2013-07-31 06:21:20 PM  

IAmRight: robsul82: IAmRight: and 2 against the Giants.

Hey, all time first and only.

And against the Packers one of those was a KR TD and another was scored in the 4th quarter of a game the Falcons were losing 42-14 at the time. Truly, he is one of the greats.

/dammit if the Seahawks D just covers someone on that last drive we could also be discussing his two three-and-outs and an INT which allowed the Seahawks back in that game
//or if the Seahawks killed the clock instead of running it in on first down from the 2
///knew Seattle left too much time on the clock and they were going to lose as Lynch scored, because that's how Seattle teams roll...still sucked to see it actually happen though


The line between 0-4 and 1-4...so thin.  So thin.
 
2013-07-31 06:21:37 PM  

redmid17: IAmRight: redmid17: Harvin and Rice being out definitely isn't going to help.

Rice isn't out; Harvin was never really on the team so it's not like it's an issue. All the same, if Harvin is going to play half-seasons, I'd rather he be a bye-week addition and come on for the playoff push and playoffs than have him for the first half of the year.

Wilson's improvement should be enough - we didn't lose anyone of importance (well, Clemons still isn't back from his injury - thanks FedEx Field and your general sh*ttiness!), so we're the same team that was handing out smackdowns toward the end of the year.

League f*cked us with as many early starts as possible though while San Fran only has one.

I thought Rice was on the PUP and just had surgery. Mayhaps I didn't read closely enough


Maybe the preseason PUP which means nothing since he can come off at any time.

He is having a procedure done in Switzerland.  Not expected to miss any game time, or so they say.
 
2013-07-31 06:23:58 PM  

steamingpile: Deneb81: steamingpile: Di Atribe: Misleading headline. This isn't about the best QBs through their first 5 years. This is an article about how awesome Matt Ryan is.

Really because I read most of it and they took a shiat on him while trying to elevate Joe "defense save me" Flacco.

I can't wait for Flacco and the ravens to suck ass this year so everyone will shut the fark up about him.

Yeah, the Ravens defense TOTALLY won them a ton of games last season. I mean, they were top TWENTY!

But really, Flacco hasn't had ONE receiver people would say was one of the best 20 in the league in his career. Ryan had two last year.

Yes and you're blaming that on whom exactly? It couldn't possibly be because he had to throw that much since they had no running game while Flacco had almost a top 10 rushing offense with Ryan having one of the worst.


No, not just numbers but ability wise the falcons have had arguably the best set of pass catchers in the NFL the past few years.

The Ravens have had about average at best for Flacco's tenure.

Who's better - not just stats but physically -
Torrey Smith vs Julio Jones
Roddy White vs Anquan Boldin
Tony Gonzalez vs Dennis Pitta or Ed Dickson

In every case no one would pick the Ravens guy over the comparable Falcon - and not just on stats.

And yeah Rice is a star - but Turner was pretty solid until last year - and even then not in the bottom half of the league.
 
2013-07-31 06:24:56 PM  
Though it wouldn't surprise me if Rice did end up injured - after all, the reason we have the WRs we have is because they got injured a lot in Minnesota. After watching that Pro Bowl gahhhhh give us Larry Fitz, Cards! We'll give you some championship rings when we get 'em!
 
2013-07-31 06:26:03 PM  

Deneb81: And yeah Rice is a star - but Turner was pretty solid until last year - and even then not in the bottom half of the league.


And Baltimore was happy to neutralize Rice themselves on occasion.
 
2013-07-31 06:27:04 PM  
Flacco is the anti-Ryan.

Just thought I would add that.
 
2013-07-31 06:31:13 PM  

IAmRight: /dammit if the Seahawks D just covers someone on that last drive we could also be discussing his two three-and-outs and an INT which allowed the Seahawks back in that game


And ohhhhhhh, the 0-3 pic was all ready to be updated when that all happened.  SO ready, lol.

Oh well.

i63.photobucket.com

Still, 0-4 would've looked so pretty.  *tear*
 
2013-07-31 06:32:03 PM  

JohnnyRebel88: Di Atribe:

I try not to be a biased fan, but I wouldn't want Tony Romo playing against The Cowboys with this current line-up. And thanks for the kind words. I think this Romo cliche is getting old and people need something new and TRUE to poke fun at. Ideas? If Romo had the WR's that Ryan did, they would of destroyed the East in offense, however their defense needs to pick it up this year and hopefully Kiffin will help in the cause. Dallas needs to implement more of a running game as well. When the opposing defense knows you are throwing the ball every down, it is easier to guard. but still knowing that, Romo continues to dominate against this. He has talent, and will gain more confidence the more help he gets from RB's and Defense. No one person can be successful, one must surround themselves with others that believe in them, and vice-versa.

Go Boys 2004+!


I got nothin. Totally speechless. I can only speak in gifs.

i27.photobucket.com

/
 
2013-07-31 06:34:41 PM  

JohnnyRebel88: If I remember correctly, Tony Romo has broken several of Aikmans records so far


If you need reminding, I have a list of the records he's broken in my profile.
 
2013-07-31 06:52:21 PM  

INeedAName: local sports broadcasters


If you're listening to ESPN 980, all you're getting are the Snyder-approved propagandists. The guys on 106.7 are as tempered and pessimistic as they come.
 
2013-07-31 06:55:08 PM  
Came for the Tony Romo jokes. leaving disappoint.
 
2013-07-31 06:57:18 PM  

abhorrent1: Came for the Tony Romo jokes. leaving disappoint.


Do you know what you call a 416 yard, 4 TD 0 INT performance by Tony Romo? A Cowboys loss.
 
2013-07-31 07:00:57 PM  

kronicfeld: INeedAName: local sports broadcasters

If you're listening to ESPN 980, all you're getting are the Snyder-approved propagandists. The guys on 106.7 are as tempered and pessimistic as they come.


That is a complete joke. Even Arrington has mentioned that they are looking primed to make a deep playoff run this year when they have yet to actually take the field this season.
 
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