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(LA Times)   Nevada Highway Patrol warns of zero tolerance for traffic violations on I-15, by which they mean they write two speeding tickets per hour for an average speed of 95 mph   (latimes.com) divider line 127
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2013-07-31 01:25:24 PM  
you mean I didn't have to slow down when I drove through there last week. Stupid law abiding self.
 
2013-07-31 01:26:10 PM  
*correction: stupid too broke to pay the fine self
 
2013-07-31 01:31:06 PM  
I wish they would do something like this in North Carolina. Our State Troopers haunt the back roads, writing tickets for the slightest violations. Meanwhile, people go any damned speed they want on the highways with nary a Trooper in sight.

/Last time I drove to school I was going 70+, and I was the slowest car on the road by far.
 
2013-07-31 01:31:13 PM  
"I-15"? Wtf? It's called "The 15".

/Says the CA native.
//I've hit 100+ coming down that hill many times.
 
2013-07-31 01:33:54 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: "I-15"? Wtf? It's called "The 15".

/Says the CA native.
//I've hit 100+ coming down that hill many times.


Yeah...sounds like something written by someone that's not from someplace west of the rockies.

It's not "the interstate", it's not "the highway", it's not "I-XX", it's "The XX"
 
2013-07-31 01:35:20 PM  
I'd need a wheelbarrow to pick up the pieces of my car that fell off if I went over 90.
 
2013-07-31 01:37:10 PM  
Make the bastard chase you.www.pitch.com
 
2013-07-31 01:39:11 PM  
I love they justify it as 'saving lives', however that's not the true motivation for the zero tolerance policy.  Its ticket revenue from out of state tourists.  Notice how they're only targeting traffic originating from California.
 
2013-07-31 01:40:34 PM  
They need to change the speed limit to 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Pahrump is 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Mesquite is 75. Why is the speed limit between Vegas and Barstow 60?
 
2013-07-31 01:41:08 PM  
Just drove this last night.

At 76 mph.

Because I'm a wuss.
 
2013-07-31 01:41:48 PM  
Am I allowed to speed away from Pahrump toward Vegas after I've taken care of "business"?
 
GBB
2013-07-31 01:42:12 PM  
But Nevada troopers have a warning: If drivers break a speeding law, or even the slightest vehicle code, such as changing lanes without signaling, they will be stopped. And they will get a ticket.  It's all part of the department's We're-going-to-get-your-Vegas-money-before-you-have-a-chance-to-lose-i t program.
 
2013-07-31 01:42:14 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: They need to change the speed limit to 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Pahrump is 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Mesquite is 75. Why is the speed limit between Vegas and Barstow 60?


$$$$$
 
2013-07-31 01:44:10 PM  
A whole 4 people died last year, so let's annoy the fark out of everyone.
 
2013-07-31 01:46:29 PM  

r00tdenied: I love they justify it as 'saving lives', however that's not the true motivation for the zero tolerance policy.  Its ticket revenue from out of state tourists.  Notice how they're only targeting traffic originating from California.


If public safety had anything to do with it, they wouldn't be pulling people over and conducting business on the edge of a freeway.
 
2013-07-31 01:47:16 PM  
That is a really cool drive though. At least it was 10 years ago. From Barstow to Vegas is just empty desert.
 
2013-07-31 01:48:33 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: They need to change the speed limit to 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Pahrump is 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Mesquite is 75. Why is the speed limit between Vegas and Barstow 60?


Isn't it 70 between Vegas and Mesquite?

/been awhile
 
2013-07-31 01:52:06 PM  

vernonFL: That is a really cool drive though. At least it was 10 years ago. From Barstow to Vegas is just empty desert.


And there's that stretch of actual desert that you drive through around the state line.  For an easterner, it was a really cool drive from LA to Vegas.

/the drive from Denver to Omaha and then from Omaha to Chicago, not so much fun.  The entire country is beige for what seems like 10,000 miles.
 
2013-07-31 01:54:31 PM  

vernonFL: That is a really cool drive though. At least it was 10 years ago. From Barstow to Vegas is just empty desert.


Except for the Worlds Tallest Thermometer.
 
2013-07-31 01:54:52 PM  
I blame that new sherrif in Primm,

images4.wikia.nocookie.net

/hot
 
2013-07-31 01:56:04 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: They need to change the speed limit to 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Pahrump is 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Mesquite is 75. Why is the speed limit between Vegas and Barstow 60?


60? Really? I haven't driven that stretch in a while but I'm pretty sure it was 70.


r00tdenied: I love they justify it as 'saving lives', however that's not the true motivation for the zero tolerance policy.  Its ticket revenue from out of state tourists.  Notice how they're only targeting traffic originating from California.


So you're saying Nevada residents coming home from California won't be ticketed?
 
2013-07-31 01:56:06 PM  

Apik0r0s: Make the bastard chase you.


Ah. There it is. Thank you.
 
2013-07-31 02:03:33 PM  

kidgenius: Pray 4 Mojo: "I-15"? Wtf? It's called "The 15".

/Says the CA native.
//I've hit 100+ coming down that hill many times.

Yeah...sounds like something written by someone that's not from someplace west of the rockies.

It's not "the interstate", it's not "the highway", it's not "I-XX", it's "The XX"


Alright but you just keep your dirty west coast ease over there and talk normal over here on the east coast, alright?  I have a friend who's originally from California and years back she was telling a story at happy hour and mentioned something about being on the 95 and I was like what did you just say?  First time I'd ever heard someone say that.
 
2013-07-31 02:09:57 PM  
I've got a friend who will be peeved. She routinely does Pasadena to the Strip in under 2.5 hours. Doing the speed limit will add over an hour.
 
2013-07-31 02:10:01 PM  
"Las Vegas is a 24-hour town, and many people just can't wait to get there to start that nonstop vacation from life in the middle of farking nowhere, stuck in some of the most farking boring desert in the country and takes forever to get to," Nevada Highway Patrol spokesman and trooper Loy Hixson told the Los Angeles Times. "They're chasing the overall rush. Once there, they don't have to stop for anything. They've been driving for hours and hours, there's nowhere to stop, they are totally exhausted and just want to get to their hotel as soon as possible before they erupt in epic road rage. In fact, many people get to their motel, check in, take a shower and a nap before EVER hitting the casionos"

FTFY
 
2013-07-31 02:19:32 PM  

uncleacid: A whole 4 people died last year, so let's annoy the fark out of everyone.


In how many separate accidents ?

"For the first six months of 2012, compared with the same period last year, injury accidents in the Nevada Zero Tolerance zone fell by more than half, Hixson said."

What are the actual numbers ? going from 8 down to 4 on a heavily travelled road is statistically insignificant. The sample data is so small that it probably just falls within the expected year-to-year variation.  When cops justify their actions with some impressive-sounding stat, but avoid giving the raw numbers, it's a safe bet they're just trying to justify their continued revenuing. If they act on a dangerous stretch of road and their actions have a real effect on safety they will announce actual numbers (ex. the number of deaths and injuries on i666 dropped from 82 to 6). When their intervention is statistically insignificant, they announce a percentage.
 
2013-07-31 02:20:51 PM  

Mikey1969: They've been driving for hours and hours, there's nowhere to stop, they are totally exhausted


You can stop in Baker. From there it's about an hour to Vegas. If that's exhausting, you may want to stick closer to home.
 
2013-07-31 02:22:02 PM  
HaHa! As someone doing 120 out of Boulder City right now, I'm getting a kick...
 
2013-07-31 02:22:28 PM  
To blend in with traffic, troopers went to cars without light bars. On one shift, Hixson told The Times, he was in his car for three minutes before he saw someone fly past at more than 120 mph.

Because if it were about SAFETY, they wouldn't mind if the speeders saw and identified them and slowed down, as long as they slowed down.
 
2013-07-31 02:26:37 PM  

Mikey1969: To blend in with traffic, troopers went to cars without light bars. On one shift, Hixson told The Times, he was in his car for three minutes before he saw someone fly past at more than 120 mph.

Because if it were about SAFETY, they wouldn't mind if the speeders saw and identified them and slowed down, as long as they slowed down.


No. If you're doing 120 you should probably just go to jail.
 
2013-07-31 02:32:01 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: "I-15"? Wtf? It's called "The 15".

/Says the southern CA native.
//I've hit 100+ coming down that hill many times.


Up here in the SF bay area people don't use 'the'.
 
2013-07-31 02:32:11 PM  

uncleacid: A whole 4 people died last year, so let's annoy the fark out of everyone.


Does that include Dolan and his driver?
 
2013-07-31 02:33:14 PM  
I remember plenty of trips where I hit the top of the hill and then just put my SUV into neutral (manual shift).  I always was going 110+ at the bottom if nobody got in my way.

/// Good times in the early 90's.
 
2013-07-31 02:36:05 PM  

SurelyShirley: Mikey1969: They've been driving for hours and hours, there's nowhere to stop, they are totally exhausted

You can stop in Baker. From there it's about an hour to Vegas. If that's exhausting, you may want to stick closer to home.


Yeah, is that yet another shiat spot on the highway? I drive the Utah-Arizona route every year, and between St George Utah, and Kingman, Az, there is nothing BUT Vegas. And the second shiattiest desert I've seen(Central Cali desert actually being the worst. Barstow, El Centro, Bakersfield, etc). I stand by my assertion, Vegas is in the middle of nowhere, and you have to drive for hours through crap-ville to get there. I'm not excusing people doing 120 down the freeway, but the HP officer is full of shiat, because that last 40 miles is the worst part of the trip, since you 've been driving all day and can see the city, but just don't seem to be getting any closer.
 
2013-07-31 02:37:12 PM  

joonyer: Mikey1969: To blend in with traffic, troopers went to cars without light bars. On one shift, Hixson told The Times, he was in his car for three minutes before he saw someone fly past at more than 120 mph.

Because if it were about SAFETY, they wouldn't mind if the speeders saw and identified them and slowed down, as long as they slowed down.

No. If you're doing 120 you should probably just go to jail.


I didn't say they shouldn't be going to jail or getting a ticket, just that if they are more concerned with sneaking up on the speeder than getting people to slow down, it is once more about revenue rather than safety.
 
2013-07-31 02:39:54 PM  

uncleacid: A whole 4 people died last year, so let's annoy the fark out of everyone.


And a shiatload of accidents.

People drive like assholes on that stretch of highway.
 
2013-07-31 02:39:55 PM  
Started in January, the aim of the crackdown was to change the way motorists drove the stretch increase revenue.

And the tactic has been such a success, Hixson says, that troopers plan to continue it indefinitely.

Haven't driven that stretch in over 25 years, but it was about as safe as you could get doing 100+, provided your car was OK. Now, cars are much safer, but hell, they gotta make their money somehow...I'm surprised they didn't work a "for the children" reference in there.
 
2013-07-31 02:41:23 PM  
I was going to Vegas with a friend, and he liked to speed, he even had a radar detector. I swear to god someone had a radar gun and was just farking with him. He'd get up to close to 85 and boom his detector would light up. He'd slow down and drive a few miles, we'd see no cop. He'd speed back up and boom the detector would go off again.

BTW I think a random movable array of unmarked radar guns set up just to blast traffic but not record anything would slow the worst offenders down (they are the ones with radar detectors). Also it would be really funny to watch.
 
2013-07-31 02:44:49 PM  

natazha: I've got a friend who will be peeved. She routinely does Pasadena to the Strip in under 2.5 hours. Doing the speed limit will add over an hour.


Which clubs does she dance in?
 
2013-07-31 02:47:45 PM  

joonyer: Mikey1969: To blend in with traffic, troopers went to cars without light bars. On one shift, Hixson told The Times, he was in his car for three minutes before he saw someone fly past at more than 120 mph.

Because if it were about SAFETY, they wouldn't mind if the speeders saw and identified them and slowed down, as long as they slowed down.

No. If you're doing 120 you should probably just go to jail.


On that stretch of road if you are doing < 70 you should be summarily executed.

Seriously though;  The flow of traffic on The 15 barstow-primm is probably in the 85-90 range.  I have been in a miles long line of cars all doing 100+ often.  The most dangerous thing I think I saw traveling that 3 times a week was cops darting out into traffic causing everyone to swerve and slam on their brakes.

Vegas is broke and needs the income.  That road has been like that for decades, why is it only now when the economy is in the dumps are they so concerned about this menace to safety?
 
2013-07-31 02:49:49 PM  

joonyer: No. If you're doing 120 you should probably just go to jail.


I wouldn't want to get pulled over by someone without light bars though.  If you're pulling me over in the middle of the desert at night, do it in a car no one but a cop would drive.
 
2013-07-31 02:49:53 PM  

kidgenius: Pray 4 Mojo: "I-15"? Wtf? It's called "The 15".

/Says the CA native.
//I've hit 100+ coming down that hill many times.

Yeah...sounds like something written by someone that's not from someplace west of the rockies.

It's not "the interstate", it's not "the highway", it's not "I-XX", it's "The XX"


No, us Nevadans say I-80, or US95, or I-15.

And the NHP really is not likely to bother you on the long desert stretches unless you're jackass-level speeding.
 
2013-07-31 02:51:40 PM  

Carn: kidgenius: Pray 4 Mojo: "I-15"? Wtf? It's called "The 15".

/Says the CA native.
//I've hit 100+ coming down that hill many times.

Yeah...sounds like something written by someone that's not from someplace west of the rockies.

It's not "the interstate", it's not "the highway", it's not "I-XX", it's "The XX"

Alright but you just keep your dirty west coast ease over there and talk normal over here on the east coast, alright?  I have a friend who's originally from California and years back she was telling a story at happy hour and mentioned something about being on the 95 and I was like what did you just say?  First time I'd ever heard someone say that.


Having traveled about 40 states through my wandering career... I'm keen to not out myself by using "the xx" or "dude" in conversation. The other thing I love about So Cal is all the freeways have names... that have very little to do with where the go. I can't imagine a more frustrating experience than an out of towner listening to a local traffic report where they always use freeway names and rarely use the numbers.

/Example: The San Diego Freeway (used to describe the 405) doesn't go to San Diego.
 
2013-07-31 02:52:05 PM  

joonyer: Mikey1969: To blend in with traffic, troopers went to cars without light bars. On one shift, Hixson told The Times, he was in his car for three minutes before he saw someone fly past at more than 120 mph.

Because if it were about SAFETY, they wouldn't mind if the speeders saw and identified them and slowed down, as long as they slowed down.

No. If you're doing 120 you should probably just go to jail.


Pfff, I do 120 just going to work in the morning. If all the lanes are clear. And no cops around. And I double-check my mirrors. And call my mom first to see if it's ok.
 
2013-07-31 02:52:37 PM  

TheMadDefenestrator: I blame that new sherrif in Primm,

/hot


Why would you ever make that thing the Sheriff?

Fine with me Nevada.  I didn't need to dump any money there anyway.
 
2013-07-31 02:52:51 PM  

Carn: Alright but you just keep your dirty west coast ease over there and talk normal over here on the east coast, alright? I have a friend who's originally from California and years back she was telling a story at happy hour and mentioned something about being on the 95 and I was like what did you just say? First time I'd ever heard someone say that.


Hey now, don't lump Nevada into California. We don't say "the" freeway here. Making us out like California are figntin' words.
 
2013-07-31 02:53:21 PM  

joonyer: No. If you're doing 120 you should probably just go to jail.


Hope you never drive in Germany.

/i know, better training, better cars
 
2013-07-31 02:54:29 PM  
It's something like 40,000 cars going each way every single day. So yearly that is roughly 14 million cars traveling that stretch of road.

As long as the flow of traffic is moving smoothly it doesn't matter the speed. We used to be able to go 90 heading to California from Vegas and still be among the slow section of cars. There are always the idiots who drive like they have a death wish but why punish everyone else.

And the cops fail to take into account how many accidents they cause by being there. How many people freak out when they see the lights and hit the brakes? Or the ones who slow down to rubberneck when they see someone pulled over?

It's all about revenue from the fines. Knowing most people won't fight it. The cherry on all of it is that it drives up our state's already high insurance prices.
 
2013-07-31 02:54:50 PM  

beer4breakfast: Pray 4 Mojo: "I-15"? Wtf? It's called "The 15".

/Says the southern CA native.
//I've hit 100+ coming down that hill many times.

Up here in the SF bay area people don't use 'the'.


I came here to say that :)
 
2013-07-31 02:56:10 PM  
You have the right to remain silent.  If you do not choose to remain silent, anything you say may be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney. I'm going to kill you. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided for you. Do you understand your rights as I have explained them to you?
 
2013-07-31 02:57:20 PM  

pedobearapproved: I was going to Vegas with a friend, and he liked to speed, he even had a radar detector. I swear to god someone had a radar gun and was just farking with him. He'd get up to close to 85 and boom his detector would light up. He'd slow down and drive a few miles, we'd see no cop. He'd speed back up and boom the detector would go off again.

BTW I think a random movable array of unmarked radar guns set up just to blast traffic but not record anything would slow the worst offenders down (they are the ones with radar detectors). Also it would be really funny to watch.


Radar detectors are useless and for that very reason, they're always giving false positives and when they are flashing an actual positive it's just letting you know you are screwed a couple seconds before the flashing lights tell you.

The "worst offenders" are that way because they don't give a shiat, nothing is going to change that.
 
2013-07-31 02:58:29 PM  
If only they could do something to speed up the traffic heading out of Vegas on Sunday morning.  Stupid Fruit Police and their stupid DWF (driving with fruit) checkpoints.
 
2013-07-31 02:58:59 PM  

Mikey1969: To blend in with traffic, troopers went to cars without light bars. On one shift, Hixson told The Times, he was in his car for three minutes before he saw someone fly past at more than 120 mph.

Because if it were about SAFETY, they wouldn't mind if the speeders saw and identified them and slowed down, as long as they slowed down.


The cruiser pictured in the article is hardly unmarked. BFD if it doesn't have a light bar.
 
2013-07-31 03:00:27 PM  

you have pee hands:
I wouldn't want to get pulled over by someone without light bars though.  If you're pulling me over in the middle of the desert at night, do it in a car no one but a cop would drive.

JNowe: You have the right to remain silent.  If you do not choose to remain silent, anything you say may be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney. I'm going to kill you. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided for you. Do you understand your rights as I have explained them to you?


These posts go well together.


The precedent of unmarked cars in the middle of nowhere is a terrible one to set.
 
2013-07-31 03:02:03 PM  
blog.zap2it.com
You mean THE 110?
*eye roll*
 
2013-07-31 03:06:28 PM  

Jclark666: If only they could do something to speed up the traffic heading out of Vegas on Sunday morning.  Stupid Fruit Police and their stupid DWF (driving with fruit) checkpoints.


You understand that is there for a reason, right? It's not just to annoy you. It's the same reason that you have to drain and clean your boat before switching lakes. Invasive species can devastate crops where they have new territory.

Then again, I haven't had to deal with this in years, where, exactly, are you encountering them? I definitely won't go that way, especially since I don't carry fruit anyway.
 
2013-07-31 03:06:55 PM  

joonyer: Mikey1969: To blend in with traffic, troopers went to cars without light bars. On one shift, Hixson told The Times, he was in his car for three minutes before he saw someone fly past at more than 120 mph.

Because if it were about SAFETY, they wouldn't mind if the speeders saw and identified them and slowed down, as long as they slowed down.

No. If you're doing 120 you should probably just go to jail.


If you're doing 120 on a strait stretch of road with miles of visibility, you should just be left the fark alone.  And that's EXACTLY what this road is.  It doesn't even need a speed limit at all.
 
2013-07-31 03:07:21 PM  

Glendale: Mikey1969: To blend in with traffic, troopers went to cars without light bars. On one shift, Hixson told The Times, he was in his car for three minutes before he saw someone fly past at more than 120 mph.

Because if it were about SAFETY, they wouldn't mind if the speeders saw and identified them and slowed down, as long as they slowed down.

The cruiser pictured in the article is hardly unmarked. BFD if it doesn't have a light bar.


And my point goes right over your head. Did you have to duck, or did it clear you all on its own?
 
2013-07-31 03:08:16 PM  

IRQ12: The precedent of unmarked cars in the middle of nowhere is a terrible one to set.


FYI... they aren't unmarked. The lights are just inside and/or lower on the car.
 
2013-07-31 03:08:46 PM  

Glendale: Mikey1969: To blend in with traffic, troopers went to cars without light bars. On one shift, Hixson told The Times, he was in his car for three minutes before he saw someone fly past at more than 120 mph.

Because if it were about SAFETY, they wouldn't mind if the speeders saw and identified them and slowed down, as long as they slowed down.

The cruiser pictured in the article is hardly unmarked. BFD if it doesn't have a light bar.


So the NHP admit the removal of the light bar is to hide the fact they are NHP but you contend that the removal is no big deal.  Hmmmmmm.
 
2013-07-31 03:09:45 PM  

Glendale: Carn: Alright but you just keep your dirty west coast ease over there and talk normal over here on the east coast, alright? I have a friend who's originally from California and years back she was telling a story at happy hour and mentioned something about being on the 95 and I was like what did you just say? First time I'd ever heard someone say that.

Hey now, don't lump Nevada into California. We don't say "the" freeway here. Making us out like California are figntin' words.


Sorry.  You guys have Vegas so you're a-ok in my book.
 
2013-07-31 03:11:01 PM  
As if I needed another reason to avoid vegas.The whole thing can go take a flying jump at a rolling tumble weed.
 
2013-07-31 03:12:57 PM  

Mikey1969: Jclark666: If only they could do something to speed up the traffic heading out of Vegas on Sunday morning.  Stupid Fruit Police and their stupid DWF (driving with fruit) checkpoints.

You understand that is there for a reason, right? It's not just to annoy you. It's the same reason that you have to drain and clean your boat before switching lakes. Invasive species can devastate crops where they have new territory.

Then again, I haven't had to deal with this in years, where, exactly, are you encountering them? I definitely won't go that way, especially since I don't carry fruit anyway.


You pretty much can't enter CA on a major highway without going through a fruit check.
 
2013-07-31 03:13:22 PM  
Made that drive last Wednesday to attend a trade show. Was doing 75 in Nevada when somebody blew past me at 90+. He got nailed and I laughed.

It used to be that they were easy on you going into Vegas but nailed everyone on the way out. Must be some budget cuts.

The only  "Zero Tolerance" sign I saw was outbound from Vegas about a mile before the CA border. Big help that is.
 
2013-07-31 03:14:01 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: IRQ12: The precedent of unmarked cars in the middle of nowhere is a terrible one to set.

FYI... they aren't unmarked. The lights are just inside and/or lower on the car.


Ahh, thanks for clearing that up, so they are like every other unmarked car in the US?

Because when I said unmarked I meant there was no visible marks from a sharpie or like marking device.
 
2013-07-31 03:17:17 PM  

vernonFL: From Barstow to Vegas is just empty desert.


Drive from Reno to Vegas some time on 95 if you really want to feel isolated. Or 50 to Ely.

Buy a radar detector...
 
2013-07-31 03:17:51 PM  

r00tdenied: I love they justify it as 'saving lives', however that's not the true motivation for the zero tolerance policy.  Its ticket revenue from out of state tourists.  Notice how they're only targeting traffic originating from California.


You know why that is?  Because the entitlement crowd are really easy to spot.  They're driving shiny expensive vehicles at crazy unsafe speeds, with Cali plates.

I'm sick to death of those people tearing through as if they're the only ones on the road.  I ride a motorcyle in this city, I don't go more than five over, and I stay away from the passing lanes.  And yet look out!  Here comes another Cali plate swerving to and fro, cutting back and forth across the express lanes to weave through traffic (without blinkers) so they don't have to hit their brakes while traveling far faster than the rest of the vehicles.
Also: it's illegal to drive while using your phone without a hands-free solution, so either buy a headset, learn how the bluetooth that's most likely included in your BMW actually works, or gtfo the road!

It took these people driving an AVERAGE of 90+ to get the cops to start a crackdown, and you idiots want to keep crying about how its a money grab?  Piss off and keep your entitled asses away from the rest of us who are just trying to get through our day then!

You can cry about revenue generation if they crack down on people who go a couple miles over.  Until then, shut up and stop abusing your driving privilege.  When it's so out of hand that somebody can be ticketed TWICE before even getting into the city, there's a real problem that needs to be fixed.
 
2013-07-31 03:25:22 PM  
95 might actually be correct. Last time leaving Vegas I had it at 104mph all the way to the turn off to I-70.
 
2013-07-31 03:34:01 PM  
South Las Vegas Blvd runs parallel to I15 from Vegas almost all the way out to Primm.  you can go as fast as you want on it (except for one little spot with a few S turns, unless you want to end up flipping through the desert) and I've never seen a LEO on it.
 
2013-07-31 03:34:59 PM  

kidgenius: Pray 4 Mojo: "I-15"? Wtf? It's called "The 15".

/Says the CA native.
//I've hit 100+ coming down that hill many times.

Yeah...sounds like something written by someone that's not from someplace west of the rockies.

It's not "the interstate", it's not "the highway", it's not "I-XX", it's "The XX"


Uh, no. Unless you're from LA, which means you're probably from somewhere else (or not too many generations from somewhere else.)

"The Nimitz" - yes. "The 880" - no. "The I-880" - absolutely not.
 
2013-07-31 03:35:33 PM  

IRQ12: Pray 4 Mojo: IRQ12: The precedent of unmarked cars in the middle of nowhere is a terrible one to set.

FYI... they aren't unmarked. The lights are just inside and/or lower on the car.

Ahh, thanks for clearing that up, so they are like every other unmarked car in the US?

Because when I said unmarked I meant there was no visible marks from a sharpie or like marking device.


I'm not understanding your point.  Having a lightbar on the roof is a "marked" police car... and not having a lightbar is "unmarked"?
 
2013-07-31 03:36:12 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: Carn: kidgenius: Pray 4 Mojo: "I-15"? Wtf? It's called "The 15".

/Says the CA native.
//I've hit 100+ coming down that hill many times.

Yeah...sounds like something written by someone that's not from someplace west of the rockies.

It's not "the interstate", it's not "the highway", it's not "I-XX", it's "The XX"

Alright but you just keep your dirty west coast ease over there and talk normal over here on the east coast, alright?  I have a friend who's originally from California and years back she was telling a story at happy hour and mentioned something about being on the 95 and I was like what did you just say?  First time I'd ever heard someone say that.

Having traveled about 40 states through my wandering career... I'm keen to not out myself by using "the xx" or "dude" in conversation. The other thing I love about So Cal is all the freeways have names... that have very little to do with where the go. I can't imagine a more frustrating experience than an out of towner listening to a local traffic report where they always use freeway names and rarely use the numbers.

/Example: The San Diego Freeway (used to describe the 405) doesn't go to San Diego.


Phoenix is like So Cal in that regard. All the freeways have names. Some freeways have two names, and the proper one to use depends on what side of town your on. And, some of our freeways cross the same roads twice...just 20-30 miles apart.
 
2013-07-31 03:38:19 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: You pretty much can't enter CA on a major highway without going through a fruit check.


Is that where they see if you know all the words and dance steps to YMCA?
 
2013-07-31 03:38:43 PM  
Enjoy your tickets, suckers...

www.zachbillings.com
 
2013-07-31 03:39:43 PM  

kidgenius: Phoenix is like So Cal in that regard. All the freeways have names. Some freeways have two names, and the proper one to use depends on what side of town your on. And, some of our freeways cross the same roads twice...just 20-30 miles apart.


Oh my god... totally. Phoenix and Dallas/Fort Worth... the two cities I've had the hardest time navigating (in the paper map days).

/The witch that lives in my dashboard just tells me where to go now.
 
2013-07-31 03:41:07 PM  
Heres a tip: Pull your head out of your ass. Its not hard to notice even an unmarked cop car. Be aware of the other cars on the road and you will never get a ticket.
 
2013-07-31 03:42:02 PM  

DigitalCoffee: Pray 4 Mojo: You pretty much can't enter CA on a major highway without going through a fruit check.

Is that where they see if you know all the words and dance steps to YMCA?


No... they check for manicures... and matching shoes and belts.
 
2013-07-31 03:45:20 PM  

RottNDude: Enjoy your tickets, suckers...

[www.zachbillings.com image 500x334]


Gigglebyte: Heres a tip: Pull your head out of your ass. Its not hard to notice even an unmarked cop car. Be aware of the other cars on the road and you will never get a ticket.


victorsand.com

Good luck with those.
 
2013-07-31 03:49:20 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: They need to change the speed limit to 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Pahrump is 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Mesquite is 75. Why is the speed limit between Vegas and Barstow 60?


It isn't. Its 70 in most places and 65 in others.
 
2013-07-31 03:51:09 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: 95 might actually be correct. Last time leaving Vegas I had it at 104mph all the way to the turn off to I-70.


Bullshiat. 104MPH in the Virgin River Gorge?

If you're doing that speed there don't be surprised if you end up to be a smear on the canyon wall.
 
2013-07-31 03:53:57 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: They need to change the speed limit to 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Pahrump is 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Mesquite is 75. Why is the speed limit between Vegas and Barstow 60?


We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember saying something like, "I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive."

Suddenly, there was a terrible roar all around us, and the sky was full of what looked like huge bats, all swooping and screeching and diving around the car, and a voice was screaming, "Holy Jesus. What are these goddamn animals?"


/That's why.
 
2013-07-31 04:03:57 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: RottNDude: Enjoy your tickets, suckers...

[www.zachbillings.com image 500x334]

Gigglebyte: Heres a tip: Pull your head out of your ass. Its not hard to notice even an unmarked cop car. Be aware of the other cars on the road and you will never get a ticket.

[victorsand.com image 400x247]

Good luck with those.


//Lives in Utah, and no stranger to overzealous state troopers in the desert
//Notices aircraft flying low enough to match and monitor speed.
 
2013-07-31 04:05:27 PM  

peterthx: Clemkadidlefark: 95 might actually be correct. Last time leaving Vegas I had it at 104mph all the way to the turn off to I-70.

Bullshiat. 104MPH in the Virgin River Gorge?

If you're doing that speed there don't be surprised if you end up to be a smear on the canyon wall.


^^ This, x10
 
2013-07-31 04:08:15 PM  
Having lived there for a year, I'd say I saw more traffic stops in the construction zone on the 215 between the 15 and St. Rose. That must be the most profitable citation area in the state. Every time I drove through they had at least 2 cars each direction pulled over. I'm sure it's total happenstance that the construction zone extended 5 miles before and after the single overpass they were working on.
 
2013-07-31 04:10:08 PM  
But if you drive any slower, you'll get eaten by a deathclaw.
 
2013-07-31 04:11:08 PM  
They should just make the stretch from Barstow to Vegas no speed limit.  There's absolutely nothing between those two locations (Baker and Primm don't really count), so the entering/exiting traffic is almost zero.  Also, once you cross the CA-NV state line it's 4 lanes on each side of the median.  There's no reason why they couldn't allow for a faster speed on that stretch of road, and then they could focus their enforcement on getting the slow drivers out of the fast lane (my biggest pet peeve on the 15).
 
2013-07-31 04:13:07 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: "I-15"? Wtf? It's called "The 15".

/Says the CA native.
//I've hit 100+ coming down that hill many times.


Article was from the LA Times.
 
2013-07-31 04:18:45 PM  
Want to speed and avoid a ticket?  Wait for the inevitable wolf-pack to fly by at 85-95 mph and slide into the middle of it.

/wolf-pack
 
2013-07-31 04:26:09 PM  

Gigglebyte: peterthx: Clemkadidlefark: 95 might actually be correct. Last time leaving Vegas I had it at 104mph all the way to the turn off to I-70.

Bullshiat. 104MPH in the Virgin River Gorge?

If you're doing that speed there don't be surprised if you end up to be a smear on the canyon wall.

^^ This, x10


That road is fun as hell on a motorcycle. One of my favorite parts of the ride to Utah.

Going down it with a 10,000lb trailer though... not so fun.
 
2013-07-31 04:26:16 PM  
I was in Vegas last week for vacation, and on Wednesday the missus and I drove out to Calico to see the old mine & meet up with some family.  We rented an Avenger and took off down the long 15 at an average of 80 MPH.  It was beautiful countryside, and, being from the east coast, we were both constantly amazed at how straight the roads were.  Driving out there is absolutely nothing like driving on an interstate back home.

Of course, I had to stop in Goodsprings.  And Primm.  And Nipton.
 
2013-07-31 04:32:15 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: The other thing I love about So Cal is all the freeways have names... that have very little to do with where the go. I can't imagine a more frustrating experience than an out of towner listening to a local traffic report where they always use freeway names and rarely use the numbers.

/Example: The San Diego Freeway (used to describe the 405) doesn't go to San Diego.


They do that in many, if not all states, though. I've only driven through 30 or so states, but it never fails to hear a  traffic report about "staying off the Roosevelt Expressway" or "long delays on the Nimitz Highway" when all you see on the highway signs are numbers.
 
2013-07-31 04:44:27 PM  
I'm getting a kick out of this because I leave for Vegas tomorrow at 6 on my motorcycle and will be riding up  the 15. No US Highway/scenic route to take that doesn't make it an 8-hour trip.
 
2013-07-31 04:45:28 PM  
This is the stretch on which I broke the 2001 Mercury Tracer land speed record. 103mph downhill.
 
2013-07-31 04:48:15 PM  
Pray 4 Mojo:  Example: The San Diego Freeway (used to describe the 405) doesn't go to San Diego.

Yes it does, it just changes numbers from the 405 to the 5 at the merge in Irvine. A few freeways do that. Technically the 15 from San Diego and then the 215 from the split in Temecula to the 60 is the "Escondido Freeway".

Then you have the freeways with a single number that change names: the 91 is the Riverside Freeway (215/60 to the 5), the Artesia Freeway (5 to 710), and the Redondo Beach Freeway (710 to 110).
 
2013-07-31 04:56:20 PM  

peterthx: Pray 4 Mojo:  Example: The San Diego Freeway (used to describe the 405) doesn't go to San Diego.

Yes it does, it just changes numbers from the 405 to the 5 at the merge in Irvine. A few freeways do that. Technically the 15 from San Diego and then the 215 from the split in Temecula to the 60 is the "Escondido Freeway".

Then you have the freeways with a single number that change names: the 91 is the Riverside Freeway (215/60 to the 5), the Artesia Freeway (5 to 710), and the Redondo Beach Freeway (710 to 110).


Understand. "The San Diego Freeway" is the unofficial traffic reporter name for THE 405. They don't call THE 5 south of Irvine "The San Diego Freeway"...
 
2013-07-31 05:03:31 PM  
The last time I drove into Vegas, I was pulled over for doing 90.  The cop ended up giving me a parking ticket instead of a speeding ticket.  I'm not complaining or anything but how does one get a parking ticket on the freeway?
 
2013-07-31 05:06:36 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: peterthx: Pray 4 Mojo:  Example: The San Diego Freeway (used to describe the 405) doesn't go to San Diego.

Yes it does, it just changes numbers from the 405 to the 5 at the merge in Irvine. A few freeways do that. Technically the 15 from San Diego and then the 215 from the split in Temecula to the 60 is the "Escondido Freeway".

Then you have the freeways with a single number that change names: the 91 is the Riverside Freeway (215/60 to the 5), the Artesia Freeway (5 to 710), and the Redondo Beach Freeway (710 to 110).

Understand. "The San Diego Freeway" is the unofficial traffic reporter name for THE 405. They don't call THE 5 south of Irvine "The San Diego Freeway"...


Probably because the entire length of the 405 is the San Diego Fwy...whereas the 5 is also that plus it's also the Santa Ana Freeway and the Golden State Freeway.
 
2013-07-31 05:10:43 PM  

bimgrapes: The last time I drove into Vegas, I was pulled over for doing 90.  The cop ended up giving me a parking ticket instead of a speeding ticket.  I'm not complaining or anything but how does one get a parking ticket on the freeway?


Based on what other people are saying, it does sound like you were going too slow...
 
2013-07-31 05:24:02 PM  

Jclark666: If only they could do something to speed up the traffic heading out of Vegas on Sunday morning.  Stupid Fruit Police and their stupid DWF (driving with fruit) checkpoints.


You never know, they could be armed with lethal bananas.

fubegra.net
 
2013-07-31 05:29:44 PM  

evaned: bimgrapes: The last time I drove into Vegas, I was pulled over for doing 90.  The cop ended up giving me a parking ticket instead of a speeding ticket.  I'm not complaining or anything but how does one get a parking ticket on the freeway?

Based on what other people are saying, it does sound like you were going too slow...


Yeah.  I drove part of that drive from Kingman, AZ to Barstow.  It's a perfectly flat straight road with nothing but you, the desert, and God.  If your car isn't bumping up against the governor, you're doing it wrong.  It and the nothingness that is the left half of the Great Plains are the single best arguments for creating US autobahns.

/Funnily, I-5 through the Central Valley was actually running faster than I-15 coming off of Vegas.  The trucks meant that the left lane (going 85) was the car lane, and cars would pass by waiting for a gap in the line of trucks (going 55 because "emissions"), darting into the right lane, going 90+ into the back of some truck, and merging in at the last second.  Bakersfield to Los Banos in 2 hours.
 
2013-07-31 05:40:16 PM  

r00tdenied: I love they justify it as 'saving lives', however that's not the true motivation for the zero tolerance policy.  Its ticket revenue from out of state tourists.  Notice how they're only targeting traffic originating from California.


That's because going for Las Vegas to the Primm can't be done by speeding. 3+ freaking hours to drive 47 miles on Sunday... And the first 20+ miles were ate 70+ MPH.
 
2013-07-31 05:59:06 PM  

meyerkev: Bakersfield to Los Banos in 2 hours.


Sounds about right, I usually hit Bakersfield from Stockton in about 3:15 or so... I freaking love that drive.
 
2013-07-31 06:09:43 PM  

ItachiNai: r00tdenied: I love they justify it as 'saving lives', however that's not the true motivation for the zero tolerance policy.  Its ticket revenue from out of state tourists.  Notice how they're only targeting traffic originating from California.

You know why that is?  Because the entitlement crowd are really easy to spot.  They're driving shiny expensive vehicles at crazy unsafe speeds, with Cali plates.

I'm sick to death of those people tearing through as if they're the only ones on the road.  I ride a motorcyle in this city, I don't go more than five over, and I stay away from the passing lanes.  And yet look out!  Here comes another Cali plate swerving to and fro, cutting back and forth across the express lanes to weave through traffic (without blinkers) so they don't have to hit their brakes while traveling far faster than the rest of the vehicles.
Also: it's illegal to drive while using your phone without a hands-free solution, so either buy a headset, learn how the bluetooth that's most likely included in your BMW actually works, or gtfo the road!

It took these people driving an AVERAGE of 90+ to get the cops to start a crackdown, and you idiots want to keep crying about how its a money grab?  Piss off and keep your entitled asses away from the rest of us who are just trying to get through our day then!

You can cry about revenue generation if they crack down on people who go a couple miles over.  Until then, shut up and stop abusing your driving privilege.  When it's so out of hand that somebody can be ticketed TWICE before even getting into the city, there's a real problem that needs to be fixed.


That was AWESOME!
 
2013-07-31 06:12:47 PM  

enigmaticsource: meyerkev: Bakersfield to Los Banos in 2 hours.

Sounds about right, I usually hit Bakersfield from Stockton in about 3:15 or so... I freaking love that drive.


It was great except when a truck wanted to pass another truck.

Because they're legally governed at 55, one truck would be going 55, the other would be going 54.5, and the cars behind them would be accordioning as everyone slammed on their breaks and tried to drop 30 MPH before ramming the car/truck in front of them.

/And of course, I'm 2 hours (or more in traffic) from all the fun drives around here, and at $4/gallon, it takes a tank of gas to get anywhere fun.
//Man, do I miss Michigan traffic.  CA only requires LOS E (35 MPH bumper to bumper average trip time) on freeways, and between the budget crisis and the sheer craziness that is LA, they miss that most of the time.  (And of course as I write this, there's a big accident that has combined with some bad construction and the 3 freeways that are actually backed up and spiraled into complete and total gridlock across the region at I-96 and Southfield).
 
2013-07-31 06:29:09 PM  

what the cat dragged in: kidgenius: Pray 4 Mojo: "I-15"? Wtf? It's called "The 15".

/Says the CA native.
//I've hit 100+ coming down that hill many times.

Yeah...sounds like something written by someone that's not from someplace west of the rockies.

It's not "the interstate", it's not "the highway", it's not "I-XX", it's "The XX"

Uh, no. Unless you're from LA, which means you're probably from somewhere else (or not too many generations from somewhere else.)

"The Nimitz" - yes. "The 880" - no. "The I-880" - absolutely not.


The rule is as follows:

NorCal: Just the number.  Take 101 to...
SoCal: The number preceded by "the".  Take the 10 to...
Everywhere else in the country: Spell it out.  Take I-10 to...; take State Route 37 to...; etc.

Part of the reason for this is that the state of California was smart and made sure no state highways had the same numbers as federal interstates, which isn't the case elsewhere in the country.  That is, in some states, there could be a "State Route 37" and an "Interstate 37" in the same general area, and they would be different roads.
 
2013-07-31 06:34:28 PM  

Geotpf: what the cat dragged in: kidgenius: Pray 4 Mojo: "I-15"? Wtf? It's called "The 15".

/Says the CA native.
//I've hit 100+ coming down that hill many times.

Yeah...sounds like something written by someone that's not from someplace west of the rockies.

It's not "the interstate", it's not "the highway", it's not "I-XX", it's "The XX"

Uh, no. Unless you're from LA, which means you're probably from somewhere else (or not too many generations from somewhere else.)

"The Nimitz" - yes. "The 880" - no. "The I-880" - absolutely not.

The rule is as follows:

NorCal: Just the number.  Take 101 to...
SoCal: The number preceded by "the".  Take the 10 to...
Everywhere else in the country: Spell it out.  Take I-10 to...; take State Route 37 to...; etc.

Part of the reason for this is that the state of California was smart and made sure no state highways had the same numbers as federal interstates, which isn't the case elsewhere in the country.  That is, in some states, there could be a "State Route 37" and an "Interstate 37" in the same general area, and they would be different roads.


Not quite accurate. There's a CA 15 and I-15, CA 210 and I-210, CA 110 and I-110, and others. They change where part of the road doesn't meet Interstate standards. But they are the same road/route.
 
2013-07-31 06:47:10 PM  

Geotpf: what the cat dragged in: kidgenius: Pray 4 Mojo: "I-15"? Wtf? It's called "The 15".

/Says the CA native.
//I've hit 100+ coming down that hill many times.

Yeah...sounds like something written by someone that's not from someplace west of the rockies.

It's not "the interstate", it's not "the highway", it's not "I-XX", it's "The XX"

Uh, no. Unless you're from LA, which means you're probably from somewhere else (or not too many generations from somewhere else.)

"The Nimitz" - yes. "The 880" - no. "The I-880" - absolutely not.

The rule is as follows:

NorCal: Just the number.  Take 101 to...
SoCal: The number preceded by "the".  Take the 10 to...
Everywhere else in the country: Spell it out.  Take I-10 to...; take State Route 37 to...; etc.

Part of the reason for this is that the state of California was smart and made sure no state highways had the same numbers as federal interstates, which isn't the case elsewhere in the country.  That is, in some states, there could be a "State Route 37" and an "Interstate 37" in the same general area, and they would be different roads.


Or god forbid Detroit.

You've got I-X, US-X, X Mile and M-X in the same region.  So three digits are just the number and everything else is the full name.

Or Grandma's to home is US 23 to M-14 to I-275 to 8 Mile.
 
2013-07-31 07:10:24 PM  

SurelyShirley: Sin_City_Superhero: They need to change the speed limit to 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Pahrump is 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Mesquite is 75. Why is the speed limit between Vegas and Barstow 60?

60? Really? I haven't driven that stretch in a while but I'm pretty sure it was 70.


r00tdenied: I love they justify it as 'saving lives', however that's not the true motivation for the zero tolerance policy.  Its ticket revenue from out of state tourists.  Notice how they're only targeting traffic originating from California.

So you're saying Nevada residents coming home from California won't be ticketed?


They really go after the California drivers. I live off the first exit into Las Vegas (St. Rose) and every Monday and Friday on my way too and from work, I see tons of cars pulled over - ALL from California or out of state. They don't bother the locals much. The cops like to sit on the overpass with radar, and send motorcycle officers from the on-ramp after offenders.

The most I've counted pulled over at one time were ten, and they were all from Cali.
 
2013-07-31 07:34:02 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: Mikey1969: Jclark666: If only they could do something to speed up the traffic heading out of Vegas on Sunday morning.  Stupid Fruit Police and their stupid DWF (driving with fruit) checkpoints.

You understand that is there for a reason, right? It's not just to annoy you. It's the same reason that you have to drain and clean your boat before switching lakes. Invasive species can devastate crops where they have new territory.

Then again, I haven't had to deal with this in years, where, exactly, are you encountering them? I definitely won't go that way, especially since I don't carry fruit anyway.

You pretty much can't enter CA on a major highway without going through a fruit check.


I have gone that way so many times it's not funny.  Get off on Minneola and go around if there's a line.
 
2013-07-31 07:59:21 PM  

ItachiNai: r00tdenied: I love they justify it as 'saving lives', however that's not the true motivation for the zero tolerance policy.  Its ticket revenue from out of state tourists.  Notice how they're only targeting traffic originating from California.

You know why that is?  Because the entitlement crowd are really easy to spot.  They're driving shiny expensive vehicles at crazy unsafe speeds, with Cali plates.

I'm sick to death of those people tearing through as if they're the only ones on the road.  I ride a motorcyle in this city, I don't go more than five over, and I stay away from the passing lanes.  And yet look out!  Here comes another Cali plate swerving to and fro, cutting back and forth across the express lanes to weave through traffic (without blinkers) so they don't have to hit their brakes while traveling far faster than the rest of the vehicles.
Also: it's illegal to drive while using your phone without a hands-free solution, so either buy a headset, learn how the bluetooth that's most likely included in your BMW actually works, or gtfo the road!

It took these people driving an AVERAGE of 90+ to get the cops to start a crackdown, and you idiots want to keep crying about how its a money grab?  Piss off and keep your entitled asses away from the rest of us who are just trying to get through our day then!

You can cry about revenue generation if they crack down on people who go a couple miles over.  Until then, shut up and stop abusing your driving privilege.  When it's so out of hand that somebody can be ticketed TWICE before even getting into the city, there's a real problem that needs to be fixed.


either you're trolling or just sound like a little biatch...

/a motorcyclist complaining about cars driving erratically is just rich
 
2013-07-31 08:24:07 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: natazha: I've got a friend who will be peeved. She routinely does Pasadena to the Strip in under 2.5 hours. Doing the speed limit will add over an hour.

Which clubs does she dance in?


Those girls fly in on Friday afternoon and catch the last flight out on Sunday. I got to see that once it was about 20 guys and the rest were all strippers. I only wish porn movie logic actually worked in real life. Brown Chicken Brown Cow.
 
2013-07-31 08:33:25 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: I'm not understanding your point.  Having a lightbar on the roof is a "marked" police car... and not having a lightbar is "unmarked"?


On the road at least, the real method to determine whether a car is police or not livery on the sides - it's the presence of equipment not standard on civilian vehicles.  Push bars are still hard to see, so the light bar is the biggest clue in your rear view mirror.

Get rid of that, or something sufficiently profile and you can't tell it's a cop until he's close enough to get you.

It's not 100% of course, some non-police cars have light bars, such as supervisor vehicles for the highway department, railroads(in which case they're yellow), etc...

Perhaps calling them 'unmarked' isn't accurate enough.  Perhaps 'stealth' would be better?  IE you can't tell it's a cop until it's too late, but if you're close enough it's still plain that it is indeed a police vehicle?
 
2013-07-31 08:53:24 PM  

Firethorn: It's not 100% of course, some non-police cars have light bars, such as supervisor vehicles for the highway department, railroads(in which case they're yellow), etc...


Heh, better a false positive than a false negative.
 
2013-07-31 09:15:14 PM  

kosherkow: ItachiNai: r00tdenied: I love they justify it as 'saving lives', however that's not the true motivation for the zero tolerance policy.  Its ticket revenue from out of state tourists.  Notice how they're only targeting traffic originating from California.

You know why that is?  Because the entitlement crowd are really easy to spot.  They're driving shiny expensive vehicles at crazy unsafe speeds, with Cali plates.

I'm sick to death of those people tearing through as if they're the only ones on the road.  I ride a motorcyle in this city, I don't go more than five over, and I stay away from the passing lanes.  And yet look out!  Here comes another Cali plate swerving to and fro, cutting back and forth across the express lanes to weave through traffic (without blinkers) so they don't have to hit their brakes while traveling far faster than the rest of the vehicles.
Also: it's illegal to drive while using your phone without a hands-free solution, so either buy a headset, learn how the bluetooth that's most likely included in your BMW actually works, or gtfo the road!

It took these people driving an AVERAGE of 90+ to get the cops to start a crackdown, and you idiots want to keep crying about how its a money grab?  Piss off and keep your entitled asses away from the rest of us who are just trying to get through our day then!

You can cry about revenue generation if they crack down on people who go a couple miles over.  Until then, shut up and stop abusing your driving privilege.  When it's so out of hand that somebody can be ticketed TWICE before even getting into the city, there's a real problem that needs to be fixed.

either you're trolling or just sound like a little biatch...

/a motorcyclist complaining about cars driving erratically is just rich


Okay, so now that you've made your baseless assumptions about who I am and how I drive just because I said the word "motorcycle", let me set the record straight.
I'm 37, I ride a Goldwing because nobody can miss a black helmet looking dead at them through the side window of their bullshiat pointless Escalade (which has happened at least twice in four years in this city when they changed right into my lane with me already being there).

I do not ride erratically because I am not a crotch rocket "squid", and I do not have an uncontrollable need for speed.  I ride two wheels because that gives me more options in dicey situations, of which most have been created by vehicles with California plates while I'm just doing my thing and trying to get across town to do my job.
They (the erratic speeding types) haul ass constantly, they talk on their phones, they never check their mirrors or their blind spots, never use their blinkers, and will run a red light without a second thought.  When you finally do get their attention and give them a "wtf" gesture, you get the finger in return, if anything at all.

No, I'm not trolling.  I'm relieved that the police are finally doing something about the blatant disregard for everybody else's safety, completely aside from the laws they're using to do it..  I wish somebody getting pulled for 20 or more over would get their piece of crap towed, to be honest.  Maybe once their idiocy starts costing them a little more than the money they apparently have enough of to throw around like so much litter, they'll start reconsidering their habits, which again, are a complete abuse of their driving PRIVILEGE.

Hey, I'm not saying I'm perfect.  I've changed lanes without using a blinker (when there's no traffic around to see it anyway).  I've gone over the speed limit by five or even ten (as I've said already).  But come on.  Seriously?  95?  100?!  Hey, if you're all by yourself on that road, by all means go ahead and challenge Darwin to a game of chicken, but by god you better settle your selfish tail down by the time you hit city limits and join us locals who have to live and work here, and count your blessings they're only handing out fines.

Oh, and how about them apples?  The city recognizes that insurance rates are pretty ridiculous out here, so it's pretty standard procedure to automatically reduce a first offense to a non-moving one (illegal parking) if you just pay it, so you don't get slammed on points and insurance.
 
zeg
2013-07-31 09:16:20 PM  

Mikey1969: To blend in with traffic, troopers went to cars without light bars. On one shift, Hixson told The Times, he was in his car for three minutes before he saw someone fly past at more than 120 mph.

Because if it were about SAFETY, they wouldn't mind if the speeders saw and identified them and slowed down, as long as they slowed down.


No, because if you can identify the cop cars, you do 120 except when you see a cop. If you can't pick them out at a distance, you have to slow down whenever any car is near. That (plus a PR campaign to get the word out) provides far more deterrent effect for the same number of police cars.
 
2013-07-31 09:42:12 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: They need to change the speed limit to 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Pahrump is 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Mesquite is 75. Why is the speed limit between Vegas and Barstow 60?


If they followed 85th percentile rules, the speed limit would be at least 80.
 
2013-07-31 09:56:49 PM  

pedrop357: Sin_City_Superhero: They need to change the speed limit to 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Pahrump is 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Mesquite is 75. Why is the speed limit between Vegas and Barstow 60?

If they followed 85th percentile rules, the speed limit would be at least 80.


Isn't it normally 70?  According to this, it was dropped to 60 through the construction zones:
http://articles.latimes.com/2003/may/19/local/me-interstate19

Love how the CHP mentions they "routinely" pull over people doing 100+ anyway.  People are getting out of hand...
*shaking head sadly*
 
2013-07-31 10:21:13 PM  

Firethorn: some non-police cars have light bars, such as supervisor vehicles for the highway department, railroads(in which case they're yellow), etc...


Several years ago, when I still lived in SoCal, I saw a guy with out-of-state plates going speed limit -3 on Coast Hwy with a lifeguard truck behind him.
 
2013-07-31 10:29:19 PM  
got tagged doing 107 down the hill going into LV . Cop told me 3 more mph and they would have arrested me.


/ticket was still cheaper than the stupid red light camera ticket i got once.
 
2013-07-31 11:58:53 PM  

meyerkev: enigmaticsource: meyerkev: Bakersfield to Los Banos in 2 hours.

Sounds about right, I usually hit Bakersfield from Stockton in about 3:15 or so... I freaking love that drive.

It was great except when a truck wanted to pass another truck.

Because they're legally governed at 55, one truck would be going 55, the other would be going 54.5, and the cars behind them would be accordioning as everyone slammed on their breaks and tried to drop 30 MPH before ramming the car/truck in front of them.

/And of course, I'm 2 hours (or more in traffic) from all the fun drives around here, and at $4/gallon, it takes a tank of gas to get anywhere fun.
//Man, do I miss Michigan traffic.  CA only requires LOS E (35 MPH bumper to bumper average trip time) on freeways, and between the budget crisis and the sheer craziness that is LA, they miss that most of the time.  (And of course as I write this, there's a big accident that has combined with some bad construction and the 3 freeways that are actually backed up and spiraled into complete and total gridlock across the region at I-96 and Southfield).


As far as I know trucks aren't governed at 55. But their GPS logging would show the boss man when they exceeded the limit. Depending on the company that might be a problem or might not. The company cares more about making the loads on time and complying with federal drive-time/rest-time limits, so the boss might look the other way if their drivers go over 55. In my observation I would guess the latter to be the case.
 
2013-08-01 12:32:12 AM  

what the cat dragged in: meyerkev: enigmaticsource: meyerkev: Bakersfield to Los Banos in 2 hours.

Sounds about right, I usually hit Bakersfield from Stockton in about 3:15 or so... I freaking love that drive.

It was great except when a truck wanted to pass another truck.

Because they're legally governed at 55, one truck would be going 55, the other would be going 54.5, and the cars behind them would be accordioning as everyone slammed on their breaks and tried to drop 30 MPH before ramming the car/truck in front of them.

/And of course, I'm 2 hours (or more in traffic) from all the fun drives around here, and at $4/gallon, it takes a tank of gas to get anywhere fun.
//Man, do I miss Michigan traffic.  CA only requires LOS E (35 MPH bumper to bumper average trip time) on freeways, and between the budget crisis and the sheer craziness that is LA, they miss that most of the time.  (And of course as I write this, there's a big accident that has combined with some bad construction and the 3 freeways that are actually backed up and spiraled into complete and total gridlock across the region at I-96 and Southfield).

As far as I know trucks aren't governed at 55. But their GPS logging would show the boss man when they exceeded the limit. Depending on the company that might be a problem or might not. The company cares more about making the loads on time and complying with federal drive-time/rest-time limits, so the boss might look the other way if their drivers go over 55. In my observation I would guess the latter to be the case.


Well, something was causing every truck to stop at 55, which was incredibly dangerous even if the other cars had been doing the speed limit.
 
2013-08-01 12:36:25 AM  
I am getting a kick out of the people annoyed they are being fined for speeding. I drive 50-60 miles per hour most days, unless I am late for work, and the speed limit is 70 miles an hour. It saves me money on gas, about 30 dollars a month, at the "price" of 4 hours of extra drive a month because it takes longer to get places. So, instead of me doing 20 hours of driving a month I do 24. I consider it worth it because I pollute less and I actually enjoy listening to the radio.

To all those haters that will say I'm holding up traffic, it's a 2 lane highway at 10pm or 7am that isn't very busy. More people pass me now, but I am in no way holding up traffic.
 
2013-08-01 01:03:53 AM  

what the cat dragged in: As far as I know trucks aren't governed at 55. But their GPS logging would show the boss man when they exceeded the limit.


Some are governed; most are not.  I've seen trucks doing 80 mph.  Some are their own 'boss man'.  GPS logging is a thing - dad's work has their GPS trackers rigged to send him an email if any of their vehicles exceed a certain speed, leave their operational area, etc...

Since the records are stored by a 3rd party, it's actually saved their asses a few times when mis-id'd at red light cameras and such.  It's sad that sometimes the picture of a red convertible isn't considered sufficient evidence that a service van didn't run the red light right then...
 
2013-08-01 02:34:22 AM  

Pray 4 Mojo: Mikey1969: Jclark666: If only they could do something to speed up the traffic heading out of Vegas on Sunday morning.  Stupid Fruit Police and their stupid DWF (driving with fruit) checkpoints.

You understand that is there for a reason, right? It's not just to annoy you. It's the same reason that you have to drain and clean your boat before switching lakes. Invasive species can devastate crops where they have new territory.

Then again, I haven't had to deal with this in years, where, exactly, are you encountering them? I definitely won't go that way, especially since I don't carry fruit anyway.

You pretty much can't enter CA on a major highway without going through a fruit check.



You say that, but I haven't seen anyone manning those booths, except for the first time I drove into California (which was when I moved here).

Now, I don't know if I've just been lucky every time since, or what, but every other time it's been slow down, realize there's nobody there, maybe stop if the person in front of me is confused, and then drive through.


I will note that when I first moved out here, the strangest part of the drive was when I made it to the California border (via I-10), and everything turned green.  Everyone who has driven this knows what I mean.  You're going through miles of desert in Arizona, get past Quartzsite, and you cross into California, it's suddenly green.

I remember thinking, "Holy fark, it's just like the Bugs Bunny cartoons...  California is green right away."

Of course, about 10 miles later, you're back in desert...  But it was more than a little weird, that first time.
 
2013-08-01 02:47:47 AM  

mithras_angel: I remember thinking, "Holy fark, it's just like the Bugs Bunny cartoons...  California is green right away."

Of course, about 10 miles later, you're back in desert...  But it was more than a little weird, that first time.


Back in 1997 voters passed a proposition to astro turf the CA desert but there was only money in the budget to turf 10 miles along the border.
 
2013-08-01 06:25:41 AM  
i'm supposed to make this drive in 10 hours.  damn.  the boom from El Paso to Austin on I-10 would be faster than this bullsh*t
 
2013-08-01 11:52:00 AM  

x1v16: I am getting a kick out of the people annoyed they are being fined for speeding. I drive 50-60 miles per hour most days, unless I am late for work, and the speed limit is 70 miles an hour. It saves me money on gas, about 30 dollars a month, at the "price" of 4 hours of extra drive a month because it takes longer to get places.


Personally, I value my 'not driving' time at $10/hour, thus the extra speed would be worth it to me if driving faster 'only' costs $30/month to save 4 hours.

If it was $60/month, I'd slow down.

As long as you're not blocking traffic I'm fine with you.
 
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