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(LA Times)   Nevada Highway Patrol warns of zero tolerance for traffic violations on I-15, by which they mean they write two speeding tickets per hour for an average speed of 95 mph   (latimes.com) divider line 127
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2013-07-31 05:40:16 PM

r00tdenied: I love they justify it as 'saving lives', however that's not the true motivation for the zero tolerance policy.  Its ticket revenue from out of state tourists.  Notice how they're only targeting traffic originating from California.


That's because going for Las Vegas to the Primm can't be done by speeding. 3+ freaking hours to drive 47 miles on Sunday... And the first 20+ miles were ate 70+ MPH.
 
2013-07-31 05:59:06 PM

meyerkev: Bakersfield to Los Banos in 2 hours.


Sounds about right, I usually hit Bakersfield from Stockton in about 3:15 or so... I freaking love that drive.
 
2013-07-31 06:09:43 PM

ItachiNai: r00tdenied: I love they justify it as 'saving lives', however that's not the true motivation for the zero tolerance policy.  Its ticket revenue from out of state tourists.  Notice how they're only targeting traffic originating from California.

You know why that is?  Because the entitlement crowd are really easy to spot.  They're driving shiny expensive vehicles at crazy unsafe speeds, with Cali plates.

I'm sick to death of those people tearing through as if they're the only ones on the road.  I ride a motorcyle in this city, I don't go more than five over, and I stay away from the passing lanes.  And yet look out!  Here comes another Cali plate swerving to and fro, cutting back and forth across the express lanes to weave through traffic (without blinkers) so they don't have to hit their brakes while traveling far faster than the rest of the vehicles.
Also: it's illegal to drive while using your phone without a hands-free solution, so either buy a headset, learn how the bluetooth that's most likely included in your BMW actually works, or gtfo the road!

It took these people driving an AVERAGE of 90+ to get the cops to start a crackdown, and you idiots want to keep crying about how its a money grab?  Piss off and keep your entitled asses away from the rest of us who are just trying to get through our day then!

You can cry about revenue generation if they crack down on people who go a couple miles over.  Until then, shut up and stop abusing your driving privilege.  When it's so out of hand that somebody can be ticketed TWICE before even getting into the city, there's a real problem that needs to be fixed.


That was AWESOME!
 
2013-07-31 06:12:47 PM

enigmaticsource: meyerkev: Bakersfield to Los Banos in 2 hours.

Sounds about right, I usually hit Bakersfield from Stockton in about 3:15 or so... I freaking love that drive.


It was great except when a truck wanted to pass another truck.

Because they're legally governed at 55, one truck would be going 55, the other would be going 54.5, and the cars behind them would be accordioning as everyone slammed on their breaks and tried to drop 30 MPH before ramming the car/truck in front of them.

/And of course, I'm 2 hours (or more in traffic) from all the fun drives around here, and at $4/gallon, it takes a tank of gas to get anywhere fun.
//Man, do I miss Michigan traffic.  CA only requires LOS E (35 MPH bumper to bumper average trip time) on freeways, and between the budget crisis and the sheer craziness that is LA, they miss that most of the time.  (And of course as I write this, there's a big accident that has combined with some bad construction and the 3 freeways that are actually backed up and spiraled into complete and total gridlock across the region at I-96 and Southfield).
 
2013-07-31 06:29:09 PM

what the cat dragged in: kidgenius: Pray 4 Mojo: "I-15"? Wtf? It's called "The 15".

/Says the CA native.
//I've hit 100+ coming down that hill many times.

Yeah...sounds like something written by someone that's not from someplace west of the rockies.

It's not "the interstate", it's not "the highway", it's not "I-XX", it's "The XX"

Uh, no. Unless you're from LA, which means you're probably from somewhere else (or not too many generations from somewhere else.)

"The Nimitz" - yes. "The 880" - no. "The I-880" - absolutely not.


The rule is as follows:

NorCal: Just the number.  Take 101 to...
SoCal: The number preceded by "the".  Take the 10 to...
Everywhere else in the country: Spell it out.  Take I-10 to...; take State Route 37 to...; etc.

Part of the reason for this is that the state of California was smart and made sure no state highways had the same numbers as federal interstates, which isn't the case elsewhere in the country.  That is, in some states, there could be a "State Route 37" and an "Interstate 37" in the same general area, and they would be different roads.
 
2013-07-31 06:34:28 PM

Geotpf: what the cat dragged in: kidgenius: Pray 4 Mojo: "I-15"? Wtf? It's called "The 15".

/Says the CA native.
//I've hit 100+ coming down that hill many times.

Yeah...sounds like something written by someone that's not from someplace west of the rockies.

It's not "the interstate", it's not "the highway", it's not "I-XX", it's "The XX"

Uh, no. Unless you're from LA, which means you're probably from somewhere else (or not too many generations from somewhere else.)

"The Nimitz" - yes. "The 880" - no. "The I-880" - absolutely not.

The rule is as follows:

NorCal: Just the number.  Take 101 to...
SoCal: The number preceded by "the".  Take the 10 to...
Everywhere else in the country: Spell it out.  Take I-10 to...; take State Route 37 to...; etc.

Part of the reason for this is that the state of California was smart and made sure no state highways had the same numbers as federal interstates, which isn't the case elsewhere in the country.  That is, in some states, there could be a "State Route 37" and an "Interstate 37" in the same general area, and they would be different roads.


Not quite accurate. There's a CA 15 and I-15, CA 210 and I-210, CA 110 and I-110, and others. They change where part of the road doesn't meet Interstate standards. But they are the same road/route.
 
2013-07-31 06:47:10 PM

Geotpf: what the cat dragged in: kidgenius: Pray 4 Mojo: "I-15"? Wtf? It's called "The 15".

/Says the CA native.
//I've hit 100+ coming down that hill many times.

Yeah...sounds like something written by someone that's not from someplace west of the rockies.

It's not "the interstate", it's not "the highway", it's not "I-XX", it's "The XX"

Uh, no. Unless you're from LA, which means you're probably from somewhere else (or not too many generations from somewhere else.)

"The Nimitz" - yes. "The 880" - no. "The I-880" - absolutely not.

The rule is as follows:

NorCal: Just the number.  Take 101 to...
SoCal: The number preceded by "the".  Take the 10 to...
Everywhere else in the country: Spell it out.  Take I-10 to...; take State Route 37 to...; etc.

Part of the reason for this is that the state of California was smart and made sure no state highways had the same numbers as federal interstates, which isn't the case elsewhere in the country.  That is, in some states, there could be a "State Route 37" and an "Interstate 37" in the same general area, and they would be different roads.


Or god forbid Detroit.

You've got I-X, US-X, X Mile and M-X in the same region.  So three digits are just the number and everything else is the full name.

Or Grandma's to home is US 23 to M-14 to I-275 to 8 Mile.
 
2013-07-31 07:10:24 PM

SurelyShirley: Sin_City_Superhero: They need to change the speed limit to 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Pahrump is 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Mesquite is 75. Why is the speed limit between Vegas and Barstow 60?

60? Really? I haven't driven that stretch in a while but I'm pretty sure it was 70.


r00tdenied: I love they justify it as 'saving lives', however that's not the true motivation for the zero tolerance policy.  Its ticket revenue from out of state tourists.  Notice how they're only targeting traffic originating from California.

So you're saying Nevada residents coming home from California won't be ticketed?


They really go after the California drivers. I live off the first exit into Las Vegas (St. Rose) and every Monday and Friday on my way too and from work, I see tons of cars pulled over - ALL from California or out of state. They don't bother the locals much. The cops like to sit on the overpass with radar, and send motorcycle officers from the on-ramp after offenders.

The most I've counted pulled over at one time were ten, and they were all from Cali.
 
2013-07-31 07:34:02 PM

Pray 4 Mojo: Mikey1969: Jclark666: If only they could do something to speed up the traffic heading out of Vegas on Sunday morning.  Stupid Fruit Police and their stupid DWF (driving with fruit) checkpoints.

You understand that is there for a reason, right? It's not just to annoy you. It's the same reason that you have to drain and clean your boat before switching lakes. Invasive species can devastate crops where they have new territory.

Then again, I haven't had to deal with this in years, where, exactly, are you encountering them? I definitely won't go that way, especially since I don't carry fruit anyway.

You pretty much can't enter CA on a major highway without going through a fruit check.


I have gone that way so many times it's not funny.  Get off on Minneola and go around if there's a line.
 
2013-07-31 07:59:21 PM

ItachiNai: r00tdenied: I love they justify it as 'saving lives', however that's not the true motivation for the zero tolerance policy.  Its ticket revenue from out of state tourists.  Notice how they're only targeting traffic originating from California.

You know why that is?  Because the entitlement crowd are really easy to spot.  They're driving shiny expensive vehicles at crazy unsafe speeds, with Cali plates.

I'm sick to death of those people tearing through as if they're the only ones on the road.  I ride a motorcyle in this city, I don't go more than five over, and I stay away from the passing lanes.  And yet look out!  Here comes another Cali plate swerving to and fro, cutting back and forth across the express lanes to weave through traffic (without blinkers) so they don't have to hit their brakes while traveling far faster than the rest of the vehicles.
Also: it's illegal to drive while using your phone without a hands-free solution, so either buy a headset, learn how the bluetooth that's most likely included in your BMW actually works, or gtfo the road!

It took these people driving an AVERAGE of 90+ to get the cops to start a crackdown, and you idiots want to keep crying about how its a money grab?  Piss off and keep your entitled asses away from the rest of us who are just trying to get through our day then!

You can cry about revenue generation if they crack down on people who go a couple miles over.  Until then, shut up and stop abusing your driving privilege.  When it's so out of hand that somebody can be ticketed TWICE before even getting into the city, there's a real problem that needs to be fixed.


either you're trolling or just sound like a little biatch...

/a motorcyclist complaining about cars driving erratically is just rich
 
2013-07-31 08:24:07 PM

Pray 4 Mojo: natazha: I've got a friend who will be peeved. She routinely does Pasadena to the Strip in under 2.5 hours. Doing the speed limit will add over an hour.

Which clubs does she dance in?


Those girls fly in on Friday afternoon and catch the last flight out on Sunday. I got to see that once it was about 20 guys and the rest were all strippers. I only wish porn movie logic actually worked in real life. Brown Chicken Brown Cow.
 
2013-07-31 08:33:25 PM

Pray 4 Mojo: I'm not understanding your point.  Having a lightbar on the roof is a "marked" police car... and not having a lightbar is "unmarked"?


On the road at least, the real method to determine whether a car is police or not livery on the sides - it's the presence of equipment not standard on civilian vehicles.  Push bars are still hard to see, so the light bar is the biggest clue in your rear view mirror.

Get rid of that, or something sufficiently profile and you can't tell it's a cop until he's close enough to get you.

It's not 100% of course, some non-police cars have light bars, such as supervisor vehicles for the highway department, railroads(in which case they're yellow), etc...

Perhaps calling them 'unmarked' isn't accurate enough.  Perhaps 'stealth' would be better?  IE you can't tell it's a cop until it's too late, but if you're close enough it's still plain that it is indeed a police vehicle?
 
2013-07-31 08:53:24 PM

Firethorn: It's not 100% of course, some non-police cars have light bars, such as supervisor vehicles for the highway department, railroads(in which case they're yellow), etc...


Heh, better a false positive than a false negative.
 
2013-07-31 09:15:14 PM

kosherkow: ItachiNai: r00tdenied: I love they justify it as 'saving lives', however that's not the true motivation for the zero tolerance policy.  Its ticket revenue from out of state tourists.  Notice how they're only targeting traffic originating from California.

You know why that is?  Because the entitlement crowd are really easy to spot.  They're driving shiny expensive vehicles at crazy unsafe speeds, with Cali plates.

I'm sick to death of those people tearing through as if they're the only ones on the road.  I ride a motorcyle in this city, I don't go more than five over, and I stay away from the passing lanes.  And yet look out!  Here comes another Cali plate swerving to and fro, cutting back and forth across the express lanes to weave through traffic (without blinkers) so they don't have to hit their brakes while traveling far faster than the rest of the vehicles.
Also: it's illegal to drive while using your phone without a hands-free solution, so either buy a headset, learn how the bluetooth that's most likely included in your BMW actually works, or gtfo the road!

It took these people driving an AVERAGE of 90+ to get the cops to start a crackdown, and you idiots want to keep crying about how its a money grab?  Piss off and keep your entitled asses away from the rest of us who are just trying to get through our day then!

You can cry about revenue generation if they crack down on people who go a couple miles over.  Until then, shut up and stop abusing your driving privilege.  When it's so out of hand that somebody can be ticketed TWICE before even getting into the city, there's a real problem that needs to be fixed.

either you're trolling or just sound like a little biatch...

/a motorcyclist complaining about cars driving erratically is just rich


Okay, so now that you've made your baseless assumptions about who I am and how I drive just because I said the word "motorcycle", let me set the record straight.
I'm 37, I ride a Goldwing because nobody can miss a black helmet looking dead at them through the side window of their bullshiat pointless Escalade (which has happened at least twice in four years in this city when they changed right into my lane with me already being there).

I do not ride erratically because I am not a crotch rocket "squid", and I do not have an uncontrollable need for speed.  I ride two wheels because that gives me more options in dicey situations, of which most have been created by vehicles with California plates while I'm just doing my thing and trying to get across town to do my job.
They (the erratic speeding types) haul ass constantly, they talk on their phones, they never check their mirrors or their blind spots, never use their blinkers, and will run a red light without a second thought.  When you finally do get their attention and give them a "wtf" gesture, you get the finger in return, if anything at all.

No, I'm not trolling.  I'm relieved that the police are finally doing something about the blatant disregard for everybody else's safety, completely aside from the laws they're using to do it..  I wish somebody getting pulled for 20 or more over would get their piece of crap towed, to be honest.  Maybe once their idiocy starts costing them a little more than the money they apparently have enough of to throw around like so much litter, they'll start reconsidering their habits, which again, are a complete abuse of their driving PRIVILEGE.

Hey, I'm not saying I'm perfect.  I've changed lanes without using a blinker (when there's no traffic around to see it anyway).  I've gone over the speed limit by five or even ten (as I've said already).  But come on.  Seriously?  95?  100?!  Hey, if you're all by yourself on that road, by all means go ahead and challenge Darwin to a game of chicken, but by god you better settle your selfish tail down by the time you hit city limits and join us locals who have to live and work here, and count your blessings they're only handing out fines.

Oh, and how about them apples?  The city recognizes that insurance rates are pretty ridiculous out here, so it's pretty standard procedure to automatically reduce a first offense to a non-moving one (illegal parking) if you just pay it, so you don't get slammed on points and insurance.
 
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2013-07-31 09:16:20 PM

Mikey1969: To blend in with traffic, troopers went to cars without light bars. On one shift, Hixson told The Times, he was in his car for three minutes before he saw someone fly past at more than 120 mph.

Because if it were about SAFETY, they wouldn't mind if the speeders saw and identified them and slowed down, as long as they slowed down.


No, because if you can identify the cop cars, you do 120 except when you see a cop. If you can't pick them out at a distance, you have to slow down whenever any car is near. That (plus a PR campaign to get the word out) provides far more deterrent effect for the same number of police cars.
 
2013-07-31 09:42:12 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: They need to change the speed limit to 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Pahrump is 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Mesquite is 75. Why is the speed limit between Vegas and Barstow 60?


If they followed 85th percentile rules, the speed limit would be at least 80.
 
2013-07-31 09:56:49 PM

pedrop357: Sin_City_Superhero: They need to change the speed limit to 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Pahrump is 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Mesquite is 75. Why is the speed limit between Vegas and Barstow 60?

If they followed 85th percentile rules, the speed limit would be at least 80.


Isn't it normally 70?  According to this, it was dropped to 60 through the construction zones:
http://articles.latimes.com/2003/may/19/local/me-interstate19

Love how the CHP mentions they "routinely" pull over people doing 100+ anyway.  People are getting out of hand...
*shaking head sadly*
 
2013-07-31 10:21:13 PM

Firethorn: some non-police cars have light bars, such as supervisor vehicles for the highway department, railroads(in which case they're yellow), etc...


Several years ago, when I still lived in SoCal, I saw a guy with out-of-state plates going speed limit -3 on Coast Hwy with a lifeguard truck behind him.
 
2013-07-31 10:29:19 PM
got tagged doing 107 down the hill going into LV . Cop told me 3 more mph and they would have arrested me.


/ticket was still cheaper than the stupid red light camera ticket i got once.
 
2013-07-31 11:58:53 PM

meyerkev: enigmaticsource: meyerkev: Bakersfield to Los Banos in 2 hours.

Sounds about right, I usually hit Bakersfield from Stockton in about 3:15 or so... I freaking love that drive.

It was great except when a truck wanted to pass another truck.

Because they're legally governed at 55, one truck would be going 55, the other would be going 54.5, and the cars behind them would be accordioning as everyone slammed on their breaks and tried to drop 30 MPH before ramming the car/truck in front of them.

/And of course, I'm 2 hours (or more in traffic) from all the fun drives around here, and at $4/gallon, it takes a tank of gas to get anywhere fun.
//Man, do I miss Michigan traffic.  CA only requires LOS E (35 MPH bumper to bumper average trip time) on freeways, and between the budget crisis and the sheer craziness that is LA, they miss that most of the time.  (And of course as I write this, there's a big accident that has combined with some bad construction and the 3 freeways that are actually backed up and spiraled into complete and total gridlock across the region at I-96 and Southfield).


As far as I know trucks aren't governed at 55. But their GPS logging would show the boss man when they exceeded the limit. Depending on the company that might be a problem or might not. The company cares more about making the loads on time and complying with federal drive-time/rest-time limits, so the boss might look the other way if their drivers go over 55. In my observation I would guess the latter to be the case.
 
2013-08-01 12:32:12 AM

what the cat dragged in: meyerkev: enigmaticsource: meyerkev: Bakersfield to Los Banos in 2 hours.

Sounds about right, I usually hit Bakersfield from Stockton in about 3:15 or so... I freaking love that drive.

It was great except when a truck wanted to pass another truck.

Because they're legally governed at 55, one truck would be going 55, the other would be going 54.5, and the cars behind them would be accordioning as everyone slammed on their breaks and tried to drop 30 MPH before ramming the car/truck in front of them.

/And of course, I'm 2 hours (or more in traffic) from all the fun drives around here, and at $4/gallon, it takes a tank of gas to get anywhere fun.
//Man, do I miss Michigan traffic.  CA only requires LOS E (35 MPH bumper to bumper average trip time) on freeways, and between the budget crisis and the sheer craziness that is LA, they miss that most of the time.  (And of course as I write this, there's a big accident that has combined with some bad construction and the 3 freeways that are actually backed up and spiraled into complete and total gridlock across the region at I-96 and Southfield).

As far as I know trucks aren't governed at 55. But their GPS logging would show the boss man when they exceeded the limit. Depending on the company that might be a problem or might not. The company cares more about making the loads on time and complying with federal drive-time/rest-time limits, so the boss might look the other way if their drivers go over 55. In my observation I would guess the latter to be the case.


Well, something was causing every truck to stop at 55, which was incredibly dangerous even if the other cars had been doing the speed limit.
 
2013-08-01 12:36:25 AM
I am getting a kick out of the people annoyed they are being fined for speeding. I drive 50-60 miles per hour most days, unless I am late for work, and the speed limit is 70 miles an hour. It saves me money on gas, about 30 dollars a month, at the "price" of 4 hours of extra drive a month because it takes longer to get places. So, instead of me doing 20 hours of driving a month I do 24. I consider it worth it because I pollute less and I actually enjoy listening to the radio.

To all those haters that will say I'm holding up traffic, it's a 2 lane highway at 10pm or 7am that isn't very busy. More people pass me now, but I am in no way holding up traffic.
 
2013-08-01 01:03:53 AM

what the cat dragged in: As far as I know trucks aren't governed at 55. But their GPS logging would show the boss man when they exceeded the limit.


Some are governed; most are not.  I've seen trucks doing 80 mph.  Some are their own 'boss man'.  GPS logging is a thing - dad's work has their GPS trackers rigged to send him an email if any of their vehicles exceed a certain speed, leave their operational area, etc...

Since the records are stored by a 3rd party, it's actually saved their asses a few times when mis-id'd at red light cameras and such.  It's sad that sometimes the picture of a red convertible isn't considered sufficient evidence that a service van didn't run the red light right then...
 
2013-08-01 02:34:22 AM

Pray 4 Mojo: Mikey1969: Jclark666: If only they could do something to speed up the traffic heading out of Vegas on Sunday morning.  Stupid Fruit Police and their stupid DWF (driving with fruit) checkpoints.

You understand that is there for a reason, right? It's not just to annoy you. It's the same reason that you have to drain and clean your boat before switching lakes. Invasive species can devastate crops where they have new territory.

Then again, I haven't had to deal with this in years, where, exactly, are you encountering them? I definitely won't go that way, especially since I don't carry fruit anyway.

You pretty much can't enter CA on a major highway without going through a fruit check.



You say that, but I haven't seen anyone manning those booths, except for the first time I drove into California (which was when I moved here).

Now, I don't know if I've just been lucky every time since, or what, but every other time it's been slow down, realize there's nobody there, maybe stop if the person in front of me is confused, and then drive through.


I will note that when I first moved out here, the strangest part of the drive was when I made it to the California border (via I-10), and everything turned green.  Everyone who has driven this knows what I mean.  You're going through miles of desert in Arizona, get past Quartzsite, and you cross into California, it's suddenly green.

I remember thinking, "Holy fark, it's just like the Bugs Bunny cartoons...  California is green right away."

Of course, about 10 miles later, you're back in desert...  But it was more than a little weird, that first time.
 
2013-08-01 02:47:47 AM

mithras_angel: I remember thinking, "Holy fark, it's just like the Bugs Bunny cartoons...  California is green right away."

Of course, about 10 miles later, you're back in desert...  But it was more than a little weird, that first time.


Back in 1997 voters passed a proposition to astro turf the CA desert but there was only money in the budget to turf 10 miles along the border.
 
2013-08-01 06:25:41 AM
i'm supposed to make this drive in 10 hours.  damn.  the boom from El Paso to Austin on I-10 would be faster than this bullsh*t
 
2013-08-01 11:52:00 AM

x1v16: I am getting a kick out of the people annoyed they are being fined for speeding. I drive 50-60 miles per hour most days, unless I am late for work, and the speed limit is 70 miles an hour. It saves me money on gas, about 30 dollars a month, at the "price" of 4 hours of extra drive a month because it takes longer to get places.


Personally, I value my 'not driving' time at $10/hour, thus the extra speed would be worth it to me if driving faster 'only' costs $30/month to save 4 hours.

If it was $60/month, I'd slow down.

As long as you're not blocking traffic I'm fine with you.
 
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