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(LA Times)   Nevada Highway Patrol warns of zero tolerance for traffic violations on I-15, by which they mean they write two speeding tickets per hour for an average speed of 95 mph   (latimes.com) divider line 127
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2013-07-31 01:25:24 PM
you mean I didn't have to slow down when I drove through there last week. Stupid law abiding self.
 
2013-07-31 01:26:10 PM
*correction: stupid too broke to pay the fine self
 
2013-07-31 01:31:06 PM
I wish they would do something like this in North Carolina. Our State Troopers haunt the back roads, writing tickets for the slightest violations. Meanwhile, people go any damned speed they want on the highways with nary a Trooper in sight.

/Last time I drove to school I was going 70+, and I was the slowest car on the road by far.
 
2013-07-31 01:31:13 PM
"I-15"? Wtf? It's called "The 15".

/Says the CA native.
//I've hit 100+ coming down that hill many times.
 
2013-07-31 01:33:54 PM

Pray 4 Mojo: "I-15"? Wtf? It's called "The 15".

/Says the CA native.
//I've hit 100+ coming down that hill many times.


Yeah...sounds like something written by someone that's not from someplace west of the rockies.

It's not "the interstate", it's not "the highway", it's not "I-XX", it's "The XX"
 
2013-07-31 01:35:20 PM
I'd need a wheelbarrow to pick up the pieces of my car that fell off if I went over 90.
 
2013-07-31 01:37:10 PM
Make the bastard chase you.www.pitch.com
 
2013-07-31 01:39:11 PM
I love they justify it as 'saving lives', however that's not the true motivation for the zero tolerance policy.  Its ticket revenue from out of state tourists.  Notice how they're only targeting traffic originating from California.
 
2013-07-31 01:40:34 PM
They need to change the speed limit to 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Pahrump is 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Mesquite is 75. Why is the speed limit between Vegas and Barstow 60?
 
2013-07-31 01:41:08 PM
Just drove this last night.

At 76 mph.

Because I'm a wuss.
 
2013-07-31 01:41:48 PM
Am I allowed to speed away from Pahrump toward Vegas after I've taken care of "business"?
 
GBB [TotalFark]
2013-07-31 01:42:12 PM
But Nevada troopers have a warning: If drivers break a speeding law, or even the slightest vehicle code, such as changing lanes without signaling, they will be stopped. And they will get a ticket.  It's all part of the department's We're-going-to-get-your-Vegas-money-before-you-have-a-chance-to-lose-i t program.
 
2013-07-31 01:42:14 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: They need to change the speed limit to 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Pahrump is 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Mesquite is 75. Why is the speed limit between Vegas and Barstow 60?


$$$$$
 
2013-07-31 01:44:10 PM
A whole 4 people died last year, so let's annoy the fark out of everyone.
 
2013-07-31 01:46:29 PM

r00tdenied: I love they justify it as 'saving lives', however that's not the true motivation for the zero tolerance policy.  Its ticket revenue from out of state tourists.  Notice how they're only targeting traffic originating from California.


If public safety had anything to do with it, they wouldn't be pulling people over and conducting business on the edge of a freeway.
 
2013-07-31 01:47:16 PM
That is a really cool drive though. At least it was 10 years ago. From Barstow to Vegas is just empty desert.
 
2013-07-31 01:48:33 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: They need to change the speed limit to 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Pahrump is 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Mesquite is 75. Why is the speed limit between Vegas and Barstow 60?


Isn't it 70 between Vegas and Mesquite?

/been awhile
 
2013-07-31 01:52:06 PM

vernonFL: That is a really cool drive though. At least it was 10 years ago. From Barstow to Vegas is just empty desert.


And there's that stretch of actual desert that you drive through around the state line.  For an easterner, it was a really cool drive from LA to Vegas.

/the drive from Denver to Omaha and then from Omaha to Chicago, not so much fun.  The entire country is beige for what seems like 10,000 miles.
 
2013-07-31 01:54:31 PM

vernonFL: That is a really cool drive though. At least it was 10 years ago. From Barstow to Vegas is just empty desert.


Except for the Worlds Tallest Thermometer.
 
2013-07-31 01:54:52 PM
I blame that new sherrif in Primm,

images4.wikia.nocookie.net

/hot
 
2013-07-31 01:56:04 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: They need to change the speed limit to 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Pahrump is 75. The speed limit between Vegas and Mesquite is 75. Why is the speed limit between Vegas and Barstow 60?


60? Really? I haven't driven that stretch in a while but I'm pretty sure it was 70.


r00tdenied: I love they justify it as 'saving lives', however that's not the true motivation for the zero tolerance policy.  Its ticket revenue from out of state tourists.  Notice how they're only targeting traffic originating from California.


So you're saying Nevada residents coming home from California won't be ticketed?
 
2013-07-31 01:56:06 PM

Apik0r0s: Make the bastard chase you.


Ah. There it is. Thank you.
 
2013-07-31 02:03:33 PM

kidgenius: Pray 4 Mojo: "I-15"? Wtf? It's called "The 15".

/Says the CA native.
//I've hit 100+ coming down that hill many times.

Yeah...sounds like something written by someone that's not from someplace west of the rockies.

It's not "the interstate", it's not "the highway", it's not "I-XX", it's "The XX"


Alright but you just keep your dirty west coast ease over there and talk normal over here on the east coast, alright?  I have a friend who's originally from California and years back she was telling a story at happy hour and mentioned something about being on the 95 and I was like what did you just say?  First time I'd ever heard someone say that.
 
2013-07-31 02:09:57 PM
I've got a friend who will be peeved. She routinely does Pasadena to the Strip in under 2.5 hours. Doing the speed limit will add over an hour.
 
2013-07-31 02:10:01 PM
"Las Vegas is a 24-hour town, and many people just can't wait to get there to start that nonstop vacation from life in the middle of farking nowhere, stuck in some of the most farking boring desert in the country and takes forever to get to," Nevada Highway Patrol spokesman and trooper Loy Hixson told the Los Angeles Times. "They're chasing the overall rush. Once there, they don't have to stop for anything. They've been driving for hours and hours, there's nowhere to stop, they are totally exhausted and just want to get to their hotel as soon as possible before they erupt in epic road rage. In fact, many people get to their motel, check in, take a shower and a nap before EVER hitting the casionos"

FTFY
 
2013-07-31 02:19:32 PM

uncleacid: A whole 4 people died last year, so let's annoy the fark out of everyone.


In how many separate accidents ?

"For the first six months of 2012, compared with the same period last year, injury accidents in the Nevada Zero Tolerance zone fell by more than half, Hixson said."

What are the actual numbers ? going from 8 down to 4 on a heavily travelled road is statistically insignificant. The sample data is so small that it probably just falls within the expected year-to-year variation.  When cops justify their actions with some impressive-sounding stat, but avoid giving the raw numbers, it's a safe bet they're just trying to justify their continued revenuing. If they act on a dangerous stretch of road and their actions have a real effect on safety they will announce actual numbers (ex. the number of deaths and injuries on i666 dropped from 82 to 6). When their intervention is statistically insignificant, they announce a percentage.
 
2013-07-31 02:20:51 PM

Mikey1969: They've been driving for hours and hours, there's nowhere to stop, they are totally exhausted


You can stop in Baker. From there it's about an hour to Vegas. If that's exhausting, you may want to stick closer to home.
 
2013-07-31 02:22:02 PM
HaHa! As someone doing 120 out of Boulder City right now, I'm getting a kick...
 
2013-07-31 02:22:28 PM
To blend in with traffic, troopers went to cars without light bars. On one shift, Hixson told The Times, he was in his car for three minutes before he saw someone fly past at more than 120 mph.

Because if it were about SAFETY, they wouldn't mind if the speeders saw and identified them and slowed down, as long as they slowed down.
 
2013-07-31 02:26:37 PM

Mikey1969: To blend in with traffic, troopers went to cars without light bars. On one shift, Hixson told The Times, he was in his car for three minutes before he saw someone fly past at more than 120 mph.

Because if it were about SAFETY, they wouldn't mind if the speeders saw and identified them and slowed down, as long as they slowed down.


No. If you're doing 120 you should probably just go to jail.
 
2013-07-31 02:32:01 PM

Pray 4 Mojo: "I-15"? Wtf? It's called "The 15".

/Says the southern CA native.
//I've hit 100+ coming down that hill many times.


Up here in the SF bay area people don't use 'the'.
 
2013-07-31 02:32:11 PM

uncleacid: A whole 4 people died last year, so let's annoy the fark out of everyone.


Does that include Dolan and his driver?
 
2013-07-31 02:33:14 PM
I remember plenty of trips where I hit the top of the hill and then just put my SUV into neutral (manual shift).  I always was going 110+ at the bottom if nobody got in my way.

/// Good times in the early 90's.
 
2013-07-31 02:36:05 PM

SurelyShirley: Mikey1969: They've been driving for hours and hours, there's nowhere to stop, they are totally exhausted

You can stop in Baker. From there it's about an hour to Vegas. If that's exhausting, you may want to stick closer to home.


Yeah, is that yet another shiat spot on the highway? I drive the Utah-Arizona route every year, and between St George Utah, and Kingman, Az, there is nothing BUT Vegas. And the second shiattiest desert I've seen(Central Cali desert actually being the worst. Barstow, El Centro, Bakersfield, etc). I stand by my assertion, Vegas is in the middle of nowhere, and you have to drive for hours through crap-ville to get there. I'm not excusing people doing 120 down the freeway, but the HP officer is full of shiat, because that last 40 miles is the worst part of the trip, since you 've been driving all day and can see the city, but just don't seem to be getting any closer.
 
2013-07-31 02:37:12 PM

joonyer: Mikey1969: To blend in with traffic, troopers went to cars without light bars. On one shift, Hixson told The Times, he was in his car for three minutes before he saw someone fly past at more than 120 mph.

Because if it were about SAFETY, they wouldn't mind if the speeders saw and identified them and slowed down, as long as they slowed down.

No. If you're doing 120 you should probably just go to jail.


I didn't say they shouldn't be going to jail or getting a ticket, just that if they are more concerned with sneaking up on the speeder than getting people to slow down, it is once more about revenue rather than safety.
 
2013-07-31 02:39:54 PM

uncleacid: A whole 4 people died last year, so let's annoy the fark out of everyone.


And a shiatload of accidents.

People drive like assholes on that stretch of highway.
 
2013-07-31 02:39:55 PM
Started in January, the aim of the crackdown was to change the way motorists drove the stretch increase revenue.

And the tactic has been such a success, Hixson says, that troopers plan to continue it indefinitely.

Haven't driven that stretch in over 25 years, but it was about as safe as you could get doing 100+, provided your car was OK. Now, cars are much safer, but hell, they gotta make their money somehow...I'm surprised they didn't work a "for the children" reference in there.
 
2013-07-31 02:41:23 PM
I was going to Vegas with a friend, and he liked to speed, he even had a radar detector. I swear to god someone had a radar gun and was just farking with him. He'd get up to close to 85 and boom his detector would light up. He'd slow down and drive a few miles, we'd see no cop. He'd speed back up and boom the detector would go off again.

BTW I think a random movable array of unmarked radar guns set up just to blast traffic but not record anything would slow the worst offenders down (they are the ones with radar detectors). Also it would be really funny to watch.
 
2013-07-31 02:44:49 PM

natazha: I've got a friend who will be peeved. She routinely does Pasadena to the Strip in under 2.5 hours. Doing the speed limit will add over an hour.


Which clubs does she dance in?
 
2013-07-31 02:47:45 PM

joonyer: Mikey1969: To blend in with traffic, troopers went to cars without light bars. On one shift, Hixson told The Times, he was in his car for three minutes before he saw someone fly past at more than 120 mph.

Because if it were about SAFETY, they wouldn't mind if the speeders saw and identified them and slowed down, as long as they slowed down.

No. If you're doing 120 you should probably just go to jail.


On that stretch of road if you are doing < 70 you should be summarily executed.

Seriously though;  The flow of traffic on The 15 barstow-primm is probably in the 85-90 range.  I have been in a miles long line of cars all doing 100+ often.  The most dangerous thing I think I saw traveling that 3 times a week was cops darting out into traffic causing everyone to swerve and slam on their brakes.

Vegas is broke and needs the income.  That road has been like that for decades, why is it only now when the economy is in the dumps are they so concerned about this menace to safety?
 
2013-07-31 02:49:49 PM

joonyer: No. If you're doing 120 you should probably just go to jail.


I wouldn't want to get pulled over by someone without light bars though.  If you're pulling me over in the middle of the desert at night, do it in a car no one but a cop would drive.
 
2013-07-31 02:49:53 PM

kidgenius: Pray 4 Mojo: "I-15"? Wtf? It's called "The 15".

/Says the CA native.
//I've hit 100+ coming down that hill many times.

Yeah...sounds like something written by someone that's not from someplace west of the rockies.

It's not "the interstate", it's not "the highway", it's not "I-XX", it's "The XX"


No, us Nevadans say I-80, or US95, or I-15.

And the NHP really is not likely to bother you on the long desert stretches unless you're jackass-level speeding.
 
2013-07-31 02:51:40 PM

Carn: kidgenius: Pray 4 Mojo: "I-15"? Wtf? It's called "The 15".

/Says the CA native.
//I've hit 100+ coming down that hill many times.

Yeah...sounds like something written by someone that's not from someplace west of the rockies.

It's not "the interstate", it's not "the highway", it's not "I-XX", it's "The XX"

Alright but you just keep your dirty west coast ease over there and talk normal over here on the east coast, alright?  I have a friend who's originally from California and years back she was telling a story at happy hour and mentioned something about being on the 95 and I was like what did you just say?  First time I'd ever heard someone say that.


Having traveled about 40 states through my wandering career... I'm keen to not out myself by using "the xx" or "dude" in conversation. The other thing I love about So Cal is all the freeways have names... that have very little to do with where the go. I can't imagine a more frustrating experience than an out of towner listening to a local traffic report where they always use freeway names and rarely use the numbers.

/Example: The San Diego Freeway (used to describe the 405) doesn't go to San Diego.
 
2013-07-31 02:52:05 PM

joonyer: Mikey1969: To blend in with traffic, troopers went to cars without light bars. On one shift, Hixson told The Times, he was in his car for three minutes before he saw someone fly past at more than 120 mph.

Because if it were about SAFETY, they wouldn't mind if the speeders saw and identified them and slowed down, as long as they slowed down.

No. If you're doing 120 you should probably just go to jail.


Pfff, I do 120 just going to work in the morning. If all the lanes are clear. And no cops around. And I double-check my mirrors. And call my mom first to see if it's ok.
 
2013-07-31 02:52:37 PM

TheMadDefenestrator: I blame that new sherrif in Primm,

/hot


Why would you ever make that thing the Sheriff?

Fine with me Nevada.  I didn't need to dump any money there anyway.
 
2013-07-31 02:52:51 PM

Carn: Alright but you just keep your dirty west coast ease over there and talk normal over here on the east coast, alright? I have a friend who's originally from California and years back she was telling a story at happy hour and mentioned something about being on the 95 and I was like what did you just say? First time I'd ever heard someone say that.


Hey now, don't lump Nevada into California. We don't say "the" freeway here. Making us out like California are figntin' words.
 
2013-07-31 02:53:21 PM

joonyer: No. If you're doing 120 you should probably just go to jail.


Hope you never drive in Germany.

/i know, better training, better cars
 
2013-07-31 02:54:29 PM
It's something like 40,000 cars going each way every single day. So yearly that is roughly 14 million cars traveling that stretch of road.

As long as the flow of traffic is moving smoothly it doesn't matter the speed. We used to be able to go 90 heading to California from Vegas and still be among the slow section of cars. There are always the idiots who drive like they have a death wish but why punish everyone else.

And the cops fail to take into account how many accidents they cause by being there. How many people freak out when they see the lights and hit the brakes? Or the ones who slow down to rubberneck when they see someone pulled over?

It's all about revenue from the fines. Knowing most people won't fight it. The cherry on all of it is that it drives up our state's already high insurance prices.
 
2013-07-31 02:54:50 PM

beer4breakfast: Pray 4 Mojo: "I-15"? Wtf? It's called "The 15".

/Says the southern CA native.
//I've hit 100+ coming down that hill many times.

Up here in the SF bay area people don't use 'the'.


I came here to say that :)
 
2013-07-31 02:56:10 PM
You have the right to remain silent.  If you do not choose to remain silent, anything you say may be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney. I'm going to kill you. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided for you. Do you understand your rights as I have explained them to you?
 
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