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(Investors Business Daily)   The income gap between poor and rich in the United States has grown more dramatically under President Obama than Bush or Clinton. This guy is a lousy socialist   (news.investors.com) divider line 341
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2013-07-31 12:01:32 PM  

EyeballKid: Fart_Machine: Outrageous Muff: And this why the progressives fail at everything. They have their guy in there and they can't even produce healthcare legislation that is even progressive. Even the Green Party has gotten better results nationally.

Obama is a progressive?

Only the progressivest progressive to ever progressive a progressive!


You guys are wasting your breath trying to debate with people who are convinced that George W Bush wasn't a real conservative.
 
2013-07-31 12:02:23 PM  

ozone: DarwiOdrade: So you're saying Obama's a better Republican than most Republicans?

Best Republican president since Eisenhower.

CLINTON.

FTFY
 
2013-07-31 12:02:23 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: You say "Obama" but all I can think is "Boehner's Congress."


...and, fade to black. Finis.
 
2013-07-31 12:03:12 PM  
hope and change... "I hope they dont notice i didn't change anything."
 
2013-07-31 12:03:27 PM  
How conservatives view the political spectrum:
www.americanthinker.com

How everyone else views the political spectrum:
abearsrant.com
 
2013-07-31 12:03:41 PM  

Parthenogenetic: You guys are wasting your breath trying to debate with people who are convinced that George W Bush wasn't a real conservative.


Bush was a coward who did whatever Cheney wanted.
 
2013-07-31 12:03:53 PM  

thurstonxhowell: Since IBD is reporting this, I assume the gap is closing, the United States has ceased to be a real place, and Sarah Palin is president of Alaskastan.


Ahhh, IBD. :-)
 
2013-07-31 12:03:57 PM  

coeyagi: Aristocles: coeyagi: Aristocles: "income gap"

The only people who give a shait about an "income gap" are haters and Farklibs. As long as the poor now are better off than they've been in the past, why complain? Answer: jealousy.

0.0000000000000000000000001/10

Outstanding rebuttal.

Exactly what am I rebutting? You are a troll and have admitted to being one so why should I give you anything but a score for your efforts?


You don't need to anything. If you have trouble following my absolutely correct framing of this commonly-misunderstood-by-libs non-problem, I'd be happy to help. Just ask, there's no shame in it.
 
2013-07-31 12:04:10 PM  
That's because the U.S. has been moving towards fascism and not socialism
 
2013-07-31 12:04:17 PM  

Outrageous Muff: tenpoundsofcheese: Thanks Obama

This is not the change we were hoping for.

Nope, the change you were hoping for was a return to Jim Crow and lynchings.


Hey, give the guy a break. He doesn't want that for real Americans... only for undocumented immigrants.
 
2013-07-31 12:05:05 PM  
i wonder how difficult it is for Republicans to pretend to care about the poors. Like, does it give them an eye twitch?
 
2013-07-31 12:06:08 PM  

someonelse: i wonder how difficult it is for Republicans to pretend to care about the poors. Like, does it give them an eye twitch?


If they didn't care about the poors, who would they exploit?
 
2013-07-31 12:06:38 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: You say "Obama" but all I can think is "Boehner's Congress."


How easily he got those ACA repeals through his Congress.
 
2013-07-31 12:06:40 PM  

Aristocles: You don't need to anything. If you have trouble following my absolutely correct framing of this commonly-misunderstood-by-libs non-problem, I'd be happy to help. Just ask, there's no shame in it.


You should do standup. Then you could see the looks on the audience members' faces while you bomb.
 
2013-07-31 12:07:05 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: I honestly think the GOP's throwing all sorts of shiat in Obama's presidency just so they can say in 2016 "Well, Dubya wasn't that bad!".


I guarantee you that in 2016, the GOP will argue that the Democratic nominee is "the most liberal candidate ever.  S/he is even less qualified and more evil than Obama."

This is what they're forced to do.  They've done it for every Democrat since Walter Mondale.  It has nothing to do with who the nominee is or what he or she actually believes.  It has to do with promoting fear.

It just won't do to tell people, "the Democrats picked someone who really isn't that bad.  I mean, c'mon, he's not nearly as bad as Obama."  That argument won't scare people into voting reflexively and thoughtlessly for the Republican nominee.
 
2013-07-31 12:07:08 PM  

Outrageous Muff: Yeah, real liberals. People that have the balls to both call themselves and promote liberal ideals. Progressives are nothing more than scared school children who no longer want to be called liberal because being a proud liberal became too hard.


Maybe decaf tomorrow.
 
2013-07-31 12:08:31 PM  

DarwiOdrade: How everyone else views the political spectrum:


I think you can tack on another blank space to the left of the Democrats.
 
2013-07-31 12:12:53 PM  
Obama: Trickle up works!
 
2013-07-31 12:13:20 PM  

coeyagi: Aristocles: "income gap"

The only people who give a shait about an "income gap" are haters and Farklibs. As long as the poor now are better off than they've been in the past, why complain? Answer: jealousy.

0.0000000000000000000000001/10


You are far too generous
 
2013-07-31 12:13:29 PM  

someonelse: i wonder how difficult it is for Republicans to pretend to care about the poors. Like, does it give them an eye twitch?


At first, but their access to superior healthcare includes a therapeutic poor person they can practice pretending to care about.
 
2013-07-31 12:14:31 PM  

Mrbogey: Obama: Trickle up works!


wat
 
2013-07-31 12:14:55 PM  
I'm shocked that capitalist policies help capitalists.  I'm absolutely shocked!
 
2013-07-31 12:16:22 PM  
In typical hamhanded Republican fashion, the term "progressive" has become yet another all-purpose pejorative, just like "Socialist", "Marxist" and "Communist".

Most base level Republicans have no idea what these terms actually mean, nor can they define them articulately without using Google. They're nothing more than "scary sounding words" they use to appear knowledgeable when in reality they might as well call Obama a "poopyhead" for all the thought behind the use of those terms.

He's black...we get it. Stop using words you cannot accurately define.
 
2013-07-31 12:17:05 PM  

Aristocles: coeyagi: Aristocles: coeyagi: Aristocles: "income gap"

The only people who give a shait about an "income gap" are haters and Farklibs. As long as the poor now are better off than they've been in the past, why complain? Answer: jealousy.

0.0000000000000000000000001/10

Outstanding rebuttal.

Exactly what am I rebutting? You are a troll and have admitted to being one so why should I give you anything but a score for your efforts?

You don't need to anything. If you have trouble following my absolutely correct framing of this commonly-misunderstood-by-libs non-problem, I'd be happy to help. Just ask, there's no shame in it.


Correct framing? Prove that the poor are better off. Or just derp some more, I could care less, baby ALT who collects tolls at bridges.
 
2013-07-31 12:17:54 PM  
IT IS THE OBAMA-REID-BOEHNER CABAL

~fartz~
 
2013-07-31 12:18:12 PM  

Mrbogey: ObamaMoody's: Trickle up works!


www.foreffectivegov.org
 
2013-07-31 12:18:16 PM  
Romney would have doubled that.
 
2013-07-31 12:19:09 PM  

coeyagi: Correct framing? Prove that the poor are better off. Or just derp some more, I could care less, baby ALT who collects tolls at bridges.


OMFG would you please just put him on ignore?
 
2013-07-31 12:19:10 PM  
The income gap has grown at a faster rate in the wake of an economic collapse that corporate America used as an excuse to horde capital and even further stagnate the wages of the plebs who they keep in constant fear of losing their jobs?

The hell you say!

Any minute now the Marxist in Chief will do something about it.
 
2013-07-31 12:19:39 PM  

LarryDan43: Romney would have doubled that.


So why elect the lesser evil?
 
2013-07-31 12:20:33 PM  
If the poor want to get rich, why don't they just get an MBA from an exclusive/Ivy League university and/or get a math/physics ph.d from an exclusive university?

It's almost as if rich people become rich by being smarter and more industrious than everybody else.
 
2013-07-31 12:20:49 PM  

phaseolus: Outstanding question-begging.


99% of them have refrigerators.  That's far better off than the poor in the Roman Empire.  QED.
 
2013-07-31 12:21:45 PM  

The Drawing Board: The income gap has grown at a faster rate in the wake of an economic collapse that corporate America used as an excuse to horde capital and even further stagnate the wages of the plebs who they keep in constant fear of losing their jobs?

The hell you say!

Any minute now the Marxist in Chief will do something about it.


So, when corporations and rich horde money, it hurts the economy.  But if they spent it, wouldn't that be trickle down?
 
2013-07-31 12:21:55 PM  

zappaisfrank: He's black...we get it. Stop using words you cannot accurately define.


Funny, considering socialists use the terms "liberal" and "progressive" inaccurately to describe themselves.
 
2013-07-31 12:22:40 PM  

I_C_Weener: LarryDan43: Romney would have doubled that.

So why elect the lesser evil?


I wanted the more evil. I'm rich. The class war is almost complete!
 
2013-07-31 12:25:19 PM  

Mrbogey: zappaisfrank: He's black...we get it. Stop using words you cannot accurately define.

Funny, considering socialists use the terms "liberal" and "progressive" inaccurately to describe themselves.


Care to elaborate or just drop a bumper sticker and run?
 
2013-07-31 12:25:54 PM  

stamped human bacon: I think you can tack on another blank space to the left of the Democrats.


Just move the one in between the Democrats and the Republicans.  You don't a need a party between conservative and derp.
 
2013-07-31 12:26:10 PM  
so this week, obama is a plutocrat tool of wall street! (last week he was the libbiest lib who ever libbed!)
 
2013-07-31 12:26:19 PM  

zappaisfrank: Mrbogey: zappaisfrank: He's black...we get it. Stop using words you cannot accurately define.

Funny, considering socialists use the terms "liberal" and "progressive" inaccurately to describe themselves.

Care to elaborate or just drop a bumper sticker and run?


Heh, when "liberal" and "progressive" just aren't strong enough pejoratives...
 
2013-07-31 12:26:29 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: And this surprised who, exactly?
Obama is no friend of the American people. But he loves his banker and hedge and Fed buddies.

If it's not illegal, it's OK.
Never forget that.


So vote for Romney!
 
2013-07-31 12:27:06 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: I_C_Weener: We should elect him again.

I'm hoping for someone to his left.


Zombie Reagan?
 
2013-07-31 12:29:16 PM  

coeyagi: Prove that the poor are better off.


THEY HAVE REFRIGERATORS!!1!

...what more proof do you need, lib-u-lardo?
 
2013-07-31 12:30:39 PM  

FlashHarry: so this week, obama is a plutocrat tool of wall street! (last week he was the libbiest lib who ever libbed!)


See how hilariously inept he is?

...except when he is single-handedly unraveling more than two centuries of American Libertyfreedoms.
 
2013-07-31 12:30:57 PM  
This guy is a lousy. socialist

FTFY, subby.  Capitalists don't want to claim him either.
 
2013-07-31 12:31:08 PM  

netweavr: And yet the poor in the United States still own smart phones and get free food/housing. The truly impoverished in the States are so far below the poverty line that they could reasonably be removed from these studies as statistical outliers.


And refrigerators.  Don't forget refrigerators.
 
2013-07-31 12:33:33 PM  
Also, in a more serious sense - the government has grand control over my civil liberties/rights. Obama, through universal healthcare and support of gay marriage, has pushed us farther in the direction of a decent society. I do believe, even if his healthcare plan flops, people will look on him in 60 years and say that he laid the foundation for some progressive movement.

Assuming we don't all turn to cannibalism and rioting in the meantime.

I would love to see some more fiscal conservancy and economic controls put into place, but neither party actually does that, and the only party that talk about it, also wants to set gays on fire and roast s'mores over their carcasses. Thanks, but I'll take Obama's America over the other options.
 
2013-07-31 12:34:53 PM  

Aristocles: coeyagi: Aristocles: "income gap"

The only people who give a shait about an "income gap" are haters and Farklibs. As long as the poor now are better off than they've been in the past, why complain? Answer: jealousy.

0.0000000000000000000000001/10

Outstanding rebuttal.


Look, Skippy, you've way over-played this troll account.  I suggest letting this account sit unused for a few years, then maybe try again.

Cheers.
 
2013-07-31 12:35:36 PM  
Note for anybody with math (maths for british farkers), DUH
For all those who missed/slept through/never understood calculus:
If the increase in peoples income is proportional (or an increasing proportion for the wealthy), you get an exponential function.  This isn't in question, it is how the exponential function is literally defined (actually a strict proportion, in reality the rich get higher increases so a function steeper than an exponential).

Basically, barring a sufficient political revolution that sees the US going back to progressive taxes or real wages for wage slaves, all the money will eventually concentrate in just a few families (.01% works out to roughly 100 families).  The first 10 years of Reagan "conservatism" made the 10%, the next will make the 1% extremely rich, the next 10 years will make the .1% own nearly all the country and so on..).  Also note that exponential functions mean that of the 1%'s famous wealth, the .01% already own the same ratio of all that wealth that the 1% have of the total US wealth.  Its just going to skew even harder to the right, so while the "1%" will have even more of the wealth, if you aren't the "1% of the 1%" you won't see much of it.

/never mind what Marx had to say, check out what Adam Smith had to say about crony capitalism.
 
2013-07-31 12:35:41 PM  

Utter Genius: If the poor want to get rich, why don't they just get an MBA from an exclusive/Ivy League university and/or get a math/physics ph.d from an exclusive university?


And then have daddy get them a job with one of his friends companies when they graduate.
 
2013-07-31 12:35:47 PM  
Its almost as if the power to make law is vested in another branch of government.  A branch that has shown its inability and unwillingness to actually do anything . . .
 
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