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(Reuters)   Raytheon ordered to stop work on U.S. Navy jammer contract; said to still be working on Starfleet contract for the upcoming Tanagra jam   (reuters.com) divider line 23
    More: Interesting, navies, Raytheon, Raytheon ordered, U.S. Government Accountability Office  
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2013-07-31 12:01:50 PM
Pump up the jam
 
2013-07-31 12:07:48 PM
Unless you're in the industry, not much of a story to read.  I'm hoping farkers familiar with the technical aspects or to whom this is relevant will begin an informative discussion.  Anyone seen FlyNavy lately?
 
2013-07-31 12:24:27 PM
Aytheon make Hulk smash
 
2013-07-31 12:34:55 PM

Odd Bird: Unless you're in the industry, not much of a story to read.  I'm hoping farkers familiar with the technical aspects or to whom this is relevant will begin an informative discussion.  Anyone seen FlyNavy lately?


The senators BAE own are more senior than Raytheon's, and the Navy picked the 'wrong' vendor.
 
2013-07-31 12:41:48 PM
Sidewinder. Best thing Raytheon ever made. Still works even though dogfighting seems to be on the wane. Oh, and BMEWS/Pave PAWS for the Air Force Cold Warriors out there.
 
2013-07-31 01:27:02 PM
what are they going to do instead? try to peanut butter a missile into the enemy's defense systems?
 
2013-07-31 01:27:30 PM
Shaka, when the walls fell.
 
2013-07-31 01:46:50 PM
Jules confused, his skin black, his eyes red!
 
2013-07-31 01:49:14 PM
BAE likes jammin', too.
 
2013-07-31 02:06:51 PM
Mirab, with sails unfurled.
 
2013-07-31 02:26:53 PM
Jammin'

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2013-07-31 02:47:56 PM

Towermonkey: Sidewinder. Best thing Raytheon ever made.


Good, not best probably

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www.raytheon.com
 
2013-07-31 03:40:05 PM

johnny_vegas: Towermonkey: Sidewinder. Best thing Raytheon ever made.

Good, not best probably

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Would agree with you.  My dad was a senior member of the team that developed the early inertial nav terrain mapping guidance system for the Tomahawk, so I'm getting a blast out of these replies....

Still remember the day he came home shiatfaced and announced they'd put "his" Tomahawk through a window from a thousand kilometers.
 
2013-07-31 03:54:14 PM

Jodeo: Shaka, when the walls fell.


Came this , Leaving with Picard for Tea.
/Earl Grey, Hot.
 
2013-07-31 04:50:11 PM

johnny_vegas: Towermonkey: Sidewinder. Best thing Raytheon ever made.

Good, not best probably

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You went EXACTLY where I was going to go with that reply.  Good job.
 
2013-07-31 05:19:19 PM
Cool, I didn't know they were turning those jams into a regular thing. I still have the t-shirt from the first one.

neo-fringe.com
 
2013-07-31 05:38:43 PM

johnny_vegas: Towermonkey: Sidewinder. Best thing Raytheon ever made.

Good, not best probably


SM-3 and Tomahawk are both excellent platforms, but the AIM-9 has been around over 60 years. Relatively cheap, arguably the most successful air to air missile platform ever designed. I think AMRAAM and the Phoenix were designed from it, originally. The airframe anyway, obviously not the radar parts since Sidewinder is IR.
 
2013-07-31 06:08:53 PM

Towermonkey: SM-3 and Tomahawk are both excellent platforms, but the AIM-9 has been around over 60 years. Relatively cheap, arguably the most successful air to air missile platform ever designed. I think AMRAAM and the Phoenix were designed from it, originally. The airframe anyway, obviously not the radar parts since Sidewinder is IR.


Naw, the Sparrow and AIM-120 have airframes derived from the Zuni and HVAR rocket programs of the 40s and early 50s. The AIM-54 was just a massive thing, it's airframe is more MIM-23 Hawk than anything else the US ever built.

But AIM-9 is the best dogfighting missile ever made and the godfather of all other dogfighting missiles on Earth. AA-2 Atoll, copied and slightly improved seeker over the AIM-9B, the Python, Magic, Archer, all are obvious copies of the AIM-9's style and capabilities
 
2013-07-31 07:01:54 PM
This is current SOP in the defense industry.  Bid goes out, responses come back, initial winner picked, told to get started.

The losers then get to pick over the contract.  They look at every clause, every responded specification.  If they find even one line item where their proposal was "better" they then challenge the contract.  Now the people who put out the bid have to go through contract challenge process.  Basically a huge paperwork exercise.  Raytheon will then be allowed to weigh in on their merits.  A contract arbitrator will make sure all the Is were crossed, Ts dotted, forms correctly filed, reviewed pondered and refuted.  BAE will then be told suck a nut.  Raytheon then gets the team back together, and starts moving forward again.

Happens on every major bid, unless someone pulls strings and gets an immediate action no-bid award handed out because something has to happen right farking now.  Next Gen anything means contract wars.  Nothing of any interest here.
 
2013-07-31 07:07:13 PM
Darmok, his missiles flying.
 
2013-07-31 07:39:56 PM
Don't worry. His contract got picked up in Port Charles.
 
2013-07-31 09:32:10 PM

Spaced Lion: Cool, I didn't know they were turning those jams into a regular thing. I still have the t-shirt from the first one.

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wait, picard shreds lefty?
 
2013-08-01 10:18:37 AM

MadHatter500: This is current SOP in the defense industry.  Bid goes out, responses come back, initial winner picked, told to get started.

The losers then get to pick over the contract.  They look at every clause, every responded specification.  If they find even one line item where their proposal was "better" they then challenge the contract.  Now the people who put out the bid have to go through contract challenge process.  Basically a huge paperwork exercise.  Raytheon will then be allowed to weigh in on their merits.  A contract arbitrator will make sure all the Is were crossed, Ts dotted, forms correctly filed, reviewed pondered and refuted.  BAE will then be told suck a nut.  Raytheon then gets the team back together, and starts moving forward again.

Happens on every major bid, unless someone pulls strings and gets an immediate action no-bid award handed out because something has to happen right farking now.  Next Gen anything means contract wars.  Nothing of any interest here.


Pretty much this.

I would add that there is also the option of the "winner" to add the "loser" as a subcontractor if it would cost less than the dispute fight.

I have seen it done when I was at NASA.
 
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