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(Daily Mail)   Are you smarter than an 8th grader?   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 64
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2013-07-31 11:02:54 AM
Am I smarter than an 8th grader...yes.  But, when happy hour starts, all bets are off.
 
2013-07-31 11:09:59 AM

yanoosh: I like to collect old math books from the early 1900s, I can say emphatically that the math requirements were much more rigorous back then. When I was in grade school in Toronto we had mental arithmatic quizzes every week. Kids now adays can't even make change. I don't think children were more intellegent back then just better educated, they were held responsible for learning the material. If they didn't they were held back a grade or two. I can remember at the start of every new school year looking to see who advanced to the next grade and who was held back. Kids today aren't allowed to fail.


I don't know where you live, but we're in a really shiatty school district and the kids around here in 4th or 5th grade could answer just about every one of those math problems. I do not like the school system but the whole "Kids are dumb these days" shiat really just seems to be about people that don't remember hearing the same crap from their elders ten to thirty years prior.

Here's what it's really about: Kids aren't less intelligent or poorly educated comparatively, you're just getting old.
 
2013-07-31 11:13:09 AM

Hand Banana: Gonz: Would I struggle to answer some of those? Probably.

If I had a time machine, and took some basic Perl or HTML code back to Bullitt County in 1912, would people struggle to comprehend it? I think it's fair to say yes.

Times change.

So because we have HTML now we don't need to know math or geography?


Not as much.

Seriously, it's less necessary. I carry on my person at all times a handheld device that allows me to access a calculator, maps, and vast libraries of, essentially, all mankind's collective knowledge. My only limitation is in the terms I ask it to look for.

//I use this device to argue with strangers and show people pictures of cats.
 
2013-07-31 11:15:28 AM
Well 'eneeavor' in the spelling would have messed me up for sure.
 
2013-07-31 11:35:19 AM

Gonz: Hand Banana: Gonz: Would I struggle to answer some of those? Probably.

If I had a time machine, and took some basic Perl or HTML code back to Bullitt County in 1912, would people struggle to comprehend it? I think it's fair to say yes.

Times change.

So because we have HTML now we don't need to know math or geography?

Not as much.

Seriously, it's less necessary. I carry on my person at all times a handheld device that allows me to access a calculator, maps, and vast libraries of, essentially, all mankind's collective knowledge. My only limitation is in the terms I ask it to look for.

//I use this device to argue with strangers and show people pictures of cats.


Your device is like the tribal rememberers in an oral culture. If the infrastructure of your knowledge "dies" or breaks down, what then? The device should be an aid to the mind, not a substitute for it.
 
2013-07-31 12:01:00 PM

pxlboy: Walker: Kids today can't even tell the difference between "there", "their" and "they're". Although their biggest problem seems to be figuring out the difference between "your" and "you're"
Their response to me? "Well your a looser!"

I notice a lot of adults can't tell when to use "seen" or "saw" and say things like "I seen him! I seen him over there! Then I seen him come out the store."
They also have problem with "was" and "were" as in "We was coming out the Walmart the other day, then we seen the guy that done it"
How does this even remotely sound correct when saying it?

I see people my age and older committing the same spelling sins as the teenagers we're always disparaging.

Stupidity is everywhere.


But they graduated high school, some even went to college. How do they continue to make these
mistakes?
 
2013-07-31 02:01:31 PM

Walker: Kids today can't even tell the difference between "there", "their" and "they're". Although their biggest problem seems to be figuring out the difference between "your" and "you're"
Their response to me? "Well your a looser!"

I notice a lot of adults can't tell when to use "seen" or "saw" and say things like "I seen him! I seen him over there! Then I seen him come out the store."
They also have problem with "was" and "were" as in "We was coming out the Walmart the other day, then we seen the guy that done it"
How does this even remotely sound correct when saying it?


You forgot "then" for "than" and vice versa. It is so prevalent on any blog, forum, board, etc.
 
2013-07-31 02:58:40 PM

TheGreatGazoo: There has always been and will probably always be smart kids and stupid kids.

One of my classmates in high school came in as a freshman speaking 5 languages including Greek.  Other kids graduate high school without being able to read the diploma.

Back in 1912, 8th grade was often the end of the road for schooling.  After that you went to work to help support your family.


This. They still have traditional 8th grade graduation ceremonies in the small town where my Mom lives. My grandfather left school at 12 to drive a truck for a grocery company to help support the family. Anything beyond 8th grade was almost  the equivalent of going to grad school today. This was the high school, back in 1904:
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/Of course, it was torn down and replaced with a crappy 70s-style concrete box.
 
2013-07-31 03:35:10 PM
Yeah um... I could have passed that test in the 8th grade.  Particularly the math part...
 
2013-07-31 04:40:28 PM
Yes, especially the ones dumb enough to get in my van to eat all the free candy I promised them
 
2013-07-31 05:47:17 PM
Other than not knowing the cubic volume of a cord off the top of my head, I would get the rest of them right.
 
2013-07-31 06:37:51 PM
They're not that smart since they move on to the the 9th grade.

/8th grade was the best 4 years of my life.
 
2013-07-31 07:40:22 PM
Current 8th grade math test:

http://www.ncpublicschools.org/docs/accountability/testing/releasedf or ms/g8mathpp.pdf

Yea; it looks hard because most people never use that stuff again once they leave school.
 
2013-08-01 10:28:22 AM

Walker: Kids today can't even tell the difference between "there", "their" and "they're". Although their biggest problem seems to be figuring out the difference between "your" and "you're"
Their response to me? "Well your a looser!"

I notice a lot of adults can't tell when to use "seen" or "saw" and say things like "I seen him! I seen him over there! Then I seen him come out the store."
They also have problem with "was" and "were" as in "We was coming out the Walmart the other day, then we seen the guy that done it"
How does this even remotely sound correct when saying it?



To be completely honest, I often intentionally dumb down my language slightly because I'm self conscious about appearing like a know-it-all prick around people with poor language skills.

I also respond with "good" when asked how I am doing, and feel judgemental of people who respond "I am well."

/Just hand me my farking coffee, educated barista.
 
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