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(Daily Mail)   Are you smarter than an 8th grader?   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 64
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2013-07-31 09:25:24 AM
Hasn't this test been out a while?
 
2013-07-31 09:28:35 AM
Kids today can't even tell the difference between "there", "their" and "they're". Although their biggest problem seems to be figuring out the difference between "your" and "you're"
Their response to me? "Well your a looser!"

I notice a lot of adults can't tell when to use "seen" or "saw" and say things like "I seen him! I seen him over there! Then I seen him come out the store."
They also have problem with "was" and "were" as in "We was coming out the Walmart the other day, then we seen the guy that done it"
How does this even remotely sound correct when saying it?
 
2013-07-31 09:30:46 AM
Yes
 
2013-07-31 09:32:46 AM
If I was, would I be reading Fark?
 
2013-07-31 09:32:58 AM
Do we know the results of the 1912 testing?
 
2013-07-31 09:33:39 AM
Posted on Lew Rockwell...

No thanks, I'll pass.
 
2013-07-31 09:33:51 AM
Kids are smarter today.
They put iodine in the salt.
This is good for 15 IQ points.

It also explains failing to be able to reason with some radicals,
because in Pakistan 85% of the population does not eat it.
They think it is someWestern plot to make them infertile.
No shocker, conspiracy theories are the national sport there.
 
2013-07-31 09:35:05 AM

Gunny Highway


Do we know the results of the 1912 testing?


Sadly, the score sheets sank with the Titanic and were never recovered.
 
2013-07-31 09:36:18 AM
No, but I get laid more.
 
2013-07-31 09:37:48 AM

Aristocles: Yes


Why?
 
2013-07-31 09:38:32 AM

Walker: Kids today can't even tell the difference between "there", "their" and "they're". Although their biggest problem seems to be figuring out the difference between "your" and "you're"
Their response to me? "Well your a looser!"

I notice a lot of adults can't tell when to use "seen" or "saw" and say things like "I seen him! I seen him over there! Then I seen him come out the store."
They also have problem with "was" and "were" as in "We was coming out the Walmart the other day, then we seen the guy that done it"
How does this even remotely sound correct when saying it?


"Seen" and "saw" and "was" and "were" seem to be more of a Southern US thing. The other ones you highlighted seem to just be the ignorance of the texting generation.
 
2013-07-31 09:41:53 AM
I enjoyed listening to an ad on the radio yesterday, talking about
how this girl is so smart and  spins records at dances and she is taking tests for college.

Then she says '...do good on my test" .

/snort
 
2013-07-31 09:41:57 AM
Sorry, I was distracted by Helen Flanagan's boobs. What was the question?
 
2013-07-31 09:42:28 AM

Walker: Kids today can't even tell the difference between "there", "their" and "they're". Although their biggest problem seems to be figuring out the difference between "your" and "you're"
Their response to me? "Well your a looser!"

I notice a lot of adults can't tell when to use "seen" or "saw" and say things like "I seen him! I seen him over there! Then I seen him come out the store."
They also have problem with "was" and "were" as in "We was coming out the Walmart the other day, then we seen the guy that done it"
How does this even remotely sound correct when saying it?


....so kids back then were smarter?
 
2013-07-31 09:42:48 AM
Education used to be for only two groups:  1)The truly gifted.  2) The rich.  Today we've managed to whittle that list down to just #2.
 
2013-07-31 09:43:03 AM
I think kids are smarter today then they were 100 years ago. The problem is I am dumber than I was 30 seconds ago because I read an article from the Daily Fail. Life and consequences and all that.
 
2013-07-31 09:45:18 AM
What the fark is the Jezebel writer saying "she did poorly but because now we know the truth...." Wait, what? History changed since you were in school or just it has been revised to fit your viewpoint?

You are a dummy lady, history didn't change and kids are a lot dumber now about social sciences which is odd in politically correct society.
 
2013-07-31 09:47:28 AM
not without my coffee I'm not...
 
2013-07-31 09:49:33 AM
One commenter noted: 'Most of these questions are memorization-based. They prompt memorized answers with specific words that would have been used in classes back then.
'There are very little critical thinking questions or any other questions that require more than rote memorization to complete.'
Another woman, under the name of Leah Jaclyn, agreed, writing: 'Often people who think our kids are dumb fail to realise that rote memorisation is a skill that is not often required anymore.'
But several commenters put emphasis on the value of learning certain things by rote.


I'm glad the Daily Fail was able to summarize the comments from Jezebel for me. I'm wondering what  "Miss Ogyny", "Riot Grrl", and "Eve Ensler" had to say about this.
 
2013-07-31 09:50:24 AM
Not yet, but I'm working on it.
 
2013-07-31 09:52:42 AM
I'm not worried about the History section.  I would expect children in 1912 to know more about events from the previous 100 years than I would children in 2013 to know about events from over 100 years ago.  It's not an apples-apples comparison.

Your parents knew more about WWII than you do.  Are you stupid?  You will know more about Vietnam than your children.  Are your children stupid?
 
2013-07-31 09:53:40 AM
This stuff looks easier than what they test kids for now.
 
2013-07-31 09:54:28 AM

Rapmaster2000: I'm not worried about the History section.  I would expect children in 1912 to know more about events from the previous 100 years than I would children in 2013 to know about events from over 100 years ago.  It's not an apples-apples comparison.

Your parents knew more about WWII than you do.  Are you stupid?  You will know more about Vietnam than your children.  Are your children stupid?


Note that the math portion was listed first in the article.

/also math-tarded
//well, sort-of
 
2013-07-31 09:55:11 AM
There has always been and will probably always be smart kids and stupid kids.

One of my classmates in high school came in as a freshman speaking 5 languages including Greek.  Other kids graduate high school without being able to read the diploma.

Back in 1912, 8th grade was often the end of the road for schooling.  After that you went to work to help support your family.
 
2013-07-31 09:55:46 AM

Walker: Kids Farkerstoday can't even tell the difference between "there", "their" and "they're". Although their biggest problem seems to be figuring out the difference between "your" and "you're"
Their response to me? "Well your a looser!"



FTFY.  Do you read the comments around here?
 
2013-07-31 09:56:16 AM
Would I struggle to answer some of those? Probably.

If I had a time machine, and took some basic Perl or HTML code back to Bullitt County in 1912, would people struggle to comprehend it? I think it's fair to say yes.

Times change.
 
2013-07-31 09:57:05 AM
I can afford a smart phone. That makes me better than you, and I don't need to bother with smart anymore. Smart is boring and low-class.
 
2013-07-31 09:57:21 AM

Walker: Kids today can't even tell the difference between "there", "their" and "they're". Although their biggest problem seems to be figuring out the difference between "your" and "you're"
Their response to me? "Well your a looser!"

I notice a lot of adults can't tell when to use "seen" or "saw" and say things like "I seen him! I seen him over there! Then I seen him come out the store."
They also have problem with "was" and "were" as in "We was coming out the Walmart the other day, then we seen the guy that done it"
How does this even remotely sound correct when saying it?


I see people my age and older committing the same spelling sins as the teenagers we're always disparaging.

Stupidity is everywhere.
 
2013-07-31 09:58:27 AM
Wasn't this a fake, or was that a different test like this?
 
2013-07-31 09:59:14 AM

Nutsac_Jim: I enjoyed listening to an ad on the radio yesterday, talking about
how this girl is so smart and   spins records at dances and she is taking tests for college.

Then she says '...do good on my test" .

/snort


if you look out of your window you may see some no good punk kids on your lawn
 
2013-07-31 10:01:29 AM
Yea, if you can't do basic math like on that test you probably shouldn't make it to high school. Adding, subtracting, multiplying and dividing shouldn't be complicated to adults.
 
2013-07-31 10:02:26 AM

gweilo8888: If I was, would I be reading Fark?


Thread over!

*golf clap
 
2013-07-31 10:04:54 AM
If they knew what "kalsomining" was I guess they are smarter than me.
 
2013-07-31 10:05:16 AM

Walker: "We was coming out the Walmart the other day, then we seen the guy that done it"


Those people aren't 'having problems with it' they're just idiots and they were taught how to speak by their idiot families.
 
2013-07-31 10:08:28 AM
Society has changed.
In a whole I dont think intelligence has changed. Just what people see as important has shifted.

If you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid
 
2013-07-31 10:10:09 AM
The existence of the Daily Mail has made the entire planet four percentage points dumber.
 
2013-07-31 10:12:45 AM

pxlboy: Rapmaster2000: I'm not worried about the History section.  I would expect children in 1912 to know more about events from the previous 100 years than I would children in 2013 to know about events from over 100 years ago.  It's not an apples-apples comparison.

Your parents knew more about WWII than you do.  Are you stupid?  You will know more about Vietnam than your children.  Are your children stupid?

Note that the math portion was listed first in the article.

/also math-tarded
//well, sort-of


Doesn't really bother me either.
1.  There seems to be a heavy emphasis on business math with the % sections.  That would have been expected with a lot of these children (remember, we keep ALL children in school through 8th grade).  Only the smart kids hung around in 1912 in Kentucky.
2.  I was taking Algebra in 8th grade.  My nephew is taking it in 7th grade.

This is telling me that the smart kids in 1912 are no better than the smart kids in 2013.  I know this is hard to believe for the "society is dying" crowd, but the thing about society is that it keeps rolling on despite the dire warnings.
 
2013-07-31 10:15:46 AM
FTA: One commenter noted: 'Most of these questions are memorization-based. They prompt memorized answers with specific words that would have been used in classes back then.
'There are very little critical thinking questions or any other questions that require more than rote memorization to complete.'


... which is *completely* different from the BS they're ramming into students today? While children may be more "intelligent" today than a century ago, some certainly go to great lengths to hide it. Ignorance and apathy abound in schools today (in teachers as well as students).
 
2013-07-31 10:15:53 AM
Seriously, I read that over (test not the article's dribble) and the math is certainly easier than it was in 8th grade for me, more like 6th grade or even lower for some of it (%s were beaten to death in 4th grade). The rest were all pretty standard by today's standards I'd say, except history. Though one must remember they are leaving out about 100 years of it compared to today. In fact most of it I was tested on or its equivalent at some point.
 
2013-07-31 10:22:51 AM
Kids today aren't taught. They're programmed.
 
2013-07-31 10:23:23 AM

Walker: Kids today can't even tell the difference between "there", "their" and "they're". Although their biggest problem seems to be figuring out the difference between "your" and "you're"
Their response to me? "Well your a looser!"

I notice a lot of adults can't tell when to use "seen" or "saw" and say things like "I seen him! I seen him over there! Then I seen him come out the store."
They also have problem with "was" and "were" as in "We was coming out the Walmart the other day, then we seen the guy that done it"
How does this even remotely sound correct when saying it?


I get emails all the time from  my underlings confusing "advise" & and "advice" as in "here's a problem - please advice"
 
2013-07-31 10:27:07 AM

fonebone77: If they knew what "kalsomining" was I guess they are smarter than me.


Kalsomining was, apparently, a mixture of clear glue, Paris white ( a type of purified chalk used as pigment) and water. It was used to paint walls in the mid/late 19th century and was somewhat expensive.
 
2013-07-31 10:34:56 AM

fonebone77: If they knew what "kalsomining" was I guess they are smarter than me.


I knew what it was, but only because I read a lot of material from that time period. Funny thing is, we can find out obscure things like this quite easily today.

/Favorite books as a kid were from a series called "The Boy Allies"  by Clair W. Hayes
//Link is to Gutenberg
///My copies were printed 1914-1916
 
2013-07-31 10:36:41 AM
Smarter? No. But I'll beat the ever-loving shiat out of most.
 
2013-07-31 10:38:07 AM
I like to collect old math books from the early 1900s, I can say emphatically that the math requirements were much more rigorous back then. When I was in grade school in Toronto we had mental arithmatic quizzes every week. Kids now adays can't even make change. I don't think children were more intellegent back then just better educated, they were held responsible for learning the material. If they didn't they were held back a grade or two. I can remember at the start of every new school year looking to see who advanced to the next grade and who was held back. Kids today aren't allowed to fail.
 
2013-07-31 10:39:58 AM

OhioUGrad: Walker: Kids today can't even tell the difference between "there", "their" and "they're". Although their biggest problem seems to be figuring out the difference between "your" and "you're"
Their response to me? "Well your a looser!"

I notice a lot of adults can't tell when to use "seen" or "saw" and say things like "I seen him! I seen him over there! Then I seen him come out the store."
They also have problem with "was" and "were" as in "We was coming out the Walmart the other day, then we seen the guy that done it"
How does this even remotely sound correct when saying it?

"Seen" and "saw" and "was" and "were" seem to be more of a Southern US thing. The other ones you highlighted seem to just be the ignorance of the texting generation.


Seen/saw, was/were are frequently affectations.  The kids using them improperly in speech understand the difference perfectly in class. It's cool to sound like a moron.
 
2013-07-31 10:41:27 AM

Gonz: Would I struggle to answer some of those? Probably.

If I had a time machine, and took some basic Perl or HTML code back to Bullitt County in 1912, would people struggle to comprehend it? I think it's fair to say yes.

Times change.


So because we have HTML now we don't need to know math or geography?
 
2013-07-31 10:45:08 AM

cwheelie: I get emails all the time from  my underlings confusing "advise" & and "advice" as in "here's a problem - please advice"


Well, just do the needful and move on.
 
2013-07-31 10:58:50 AM
Q. What's 'kalsomining'?

8th grader 100 years ago: recites prepared answer about its composition and purposes

8th grader 20 years ago: "I don't know."

8th grader today: Googles it, within 10 seconds is reading off a prepared answer about its composition and purposes
 
2013-07-31 10:59:08 AM
Todays kids are smarter because all they have to do is Google the answers.
 
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