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(National Journal)   Voters have hit the mute button on President Obama. They are no longer listening to him, and his approval numbers seem to be dropping by about a point every three weeks   (nationaljournal.com) divider line 206
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2013-07-31 01:05:43 PM  

mediablitz: chiett: MisterRonbo: chiett: Diogenes:
Governing in a two party environment requires a principled opposition.  His opposition has no principles.

Yeah, almost as bad as Nancy Pelosi!

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and not assume you're one of the many righties with a reflexive irrational hate for Pelosi.  Since she was my representative for about 16 years, I'm very familiar with her record. I'm not aware of her doing anything that could be called unprincipled.

So please do provide some examples.

Oh, and if you trot out that "pass it to find out what's in it" quote that gets taken out of context, you will look like an idiot.

Please proceed, chiett.

Okay, How's this jewel. "We need to pass it to find out whats in it"

Of course since you are one of the people who keep re-electing her, then I guess you are to blame also. So who is dumber the person who would expect people to swallow that line, or the one who does.

farking CLASSIC! Got an actual spit-take laugh.


O.M.G.  Did he really just do that?
 
2013-07-31 01:10:44 PM  

chiett: Well if I can't fix it myself it's my fault for hiring a mechanic who sucks!


Yeah, that's where your mangling of the analogy kind of shows just how inapt you've made it, don't you think?
 
2013-07-31 01:11:56 PM  
01/26/09 Obama's approval rating drops 15 percent in one week
04/06/09 The Obama honeymoon is officially over
04/28/09 Second-least-popular president in 40 years
07/09/09 Mr. Obama's popularity appears to be dropping
07/16/09 Obama's poll numbers dropping faster than an Air France jet in a thunderstorm
08/27/09 Obama's poll numbers continue to go down faster than Rosie O'Donnell chasing a fallen doughnut
12/23/09 Obama now more loathed than Bush was at the end of his second term.
01/02/10 As Obama's descending approval rating sets new records, Democrats whine about the pollster
10/21/10 News: Obama's approval ratings plummet to lowest ever. Fark: Still ahead of Clinton and Reagan
12/08/10 George W. Bush is more popular than Obama, this is not a repeat from 2008
03/30/11 Obama's popularity poll drops to record low. Again
06/27/11 Obama's poll numbers plunge to the lowest levels yet recorded on an index the author of this article seems to have just made up
08/16/11 Obama's approval rating - 40%, disapproval rating - 52%. At this point even Sarah Palin is starting to look pretty good
08/22/11 Obama says his low rating is ... *shakes Magic 8-ball* ... reflection of public unhappiness with Congress
06/18/13 The bad news: Poll data reveals President Obama's approval ratings are plunging. The good news: He most likely knew that already from PRISM data
07/31/13 Voters have hit the mute button on President Obama. They are no longer listening to him, and his approval numbers seem to be dropping by about a point every three weeks

He must be in the negatives by now
 
2013-07-31 01:20:25 PM  

MisterRonbo: So please do provide some examples.

Oh, and if you trot out that "pass it to find out what's in it" quote that gets taken out of context, you will look like an idiot.

Please proceed, chiett.


chiett: Okay, How's this jewel. "We need to pass it to find out whats in it"


workplacechoice.org
 
2013-07-31 01:20:27 PM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: He must be in the negatives by now


And yet, he will never ever be as unpopular as the Republicans in Congress.

Ever.
 
2013-07-31 01:42:59 PM  
Diogenes:

Oh, that's right.  I forgot we were living in Bizarro World where we measure accomplishment but how much we don't get done.

No, by how much we repeal!

And... wait, we haven't repealed anything?  Well, all these votes count as symbolic repealings, which is the best kind of repealing.
 
2013-07-31 01:49:13 PM  
Has anyone else mentioned that they won't vote for Obama in 2016, given his lousy poll numbers?
 
2013-07-31 01:51:15 PM  

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Has anyone else mentioned that they won't vote for Obama in 2016, given his lousy poll numbers?


2016? Hell, I'm not even voting for him in '014.
 
2013-07-31 01:55:26 PM  

NeverDrunk23: If any left/liberal/center/moderate is making dozens of alts pretending to be the right and attack anything left of them, who do you possibly think you are actually helping in the end?


The third option doesn't preclude the possibility that it's a plain old AW
 
2013-07-31 02:03:45 PM  

mediablitz: chiett: MisterRonbo: chiett: Diogenes:
Governing in a two party environment requires a principled opposition.  His opposition has no principles.

Yeah, almost as bad as Nancy Pelosi!

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and not assume you're one of the many righties with a reflexive irrational hate for Pelosi.  Since she was my representative for about 16 years, I'm very familiar with her record. I'm not aware of her doing anything that could be called unprincipled.

So please do provide some examples.

Oh, and if you trot out that "pass it to find out what's in it" quote that gets taken out of context, you will look like an idiot.

Please proceed, chiett.

Okay, How's this jewel. "We need to pass it to find out whats in it"

Of course since you are one of the people who keep re-electing her, then I guess you are to blame also. So who is dumber the person who would expect people to swallow that line, or the one who does.

farking CLASSIC! Got an actual spit-take laugh.


media1.break.com
 
2013-07-31 02:08:34 PM  

bdub77: Diogenes: I would imagine some of this is natural during this point in any prez' second term.  And it might also explain Obama's increased public speaking.

Being a president means that every bill or decision you don't like is magnified by a voter's perception. For example I really don't like his blatant continuation of the Patriot Act policies.

Having said that, Obama has been an awfully good president who has been very obviously hamstrung by the Republican surge in 2010 and the resulting Republican stalemate and gerrymandering agenda.

Also, your blog sucks.


Won't win any arguments on the internet like THAT! He's either literally the worst person to ever exist or the greatest leader this, or any, country has ever had!

/there is no median
//there is only STRAWMAN!
 
2013-07-31 02:23:37 PM  

h0lmesdaddy: chiett: Instead of Obama blaming everything on others why doesn't he just come out and say it.
"I cannot govern in a two party environment"


Of course you have to ignore that his party had control of both houses for two years.


But...But....Bush,  But.....But.....those mean old Republicans.


FTFY: Of course you have to ignore that his party had control of both houses for two years 65 Days.

There was a Super Majority for 65 days before the 60th vote got ill.  Then, ignoring the will of the people and spreading blatant lies (Death Panels) that persist to this day, the GOP resisted and the Senate filibustered every attempt at voting on anything remotely important. Facts have a liberal Bias I know.  Republicans have also set records for filibusters. shiat, Mitch McConnell Filibustered himself.  Obama has done a lot to clean up the mess of the W term.  Don't even try to pretend there hasn't been baltant obstructionism that is completely unprecedented  in the History of our Country.  Since then, Republicans/Libertarians/Fascists have sacrificed our credit rating because they didn't know what it meant.

If you would like I can create a coloring book for you and your like to understand stuff.  Just repeating shiat doesn't make it true.


Good takedown of the blatant troll...+1 sir
 
2013-07-31 02:49:34 PM  
Paging Dr. Chiett, Dr. Chiett, please report to thread 7867738.  It appears you left a pair of scissors in the patient's stomach prior to suture.
 
2013-07-31 02:51:47 PM  
to a farklib, "troll" means "someone who likes something I don't like"
 
2013-07-31 03:12:06 PM  

chiett: Instead of Obama blaming everything on others why doesn't he just come out and say it.
"I cannot govern in a two party environment"


Of course you have to ignore that his party had control of both houses for two years.


But...But....Bush,  But.....But.....those mean old Republicans.


January 20, 2009- President Obama was sworn in with 58 Democratic Senators.
April 29, 2009-Senator Arlen Specter switches to Democrat. 59 Senators.
May 18, 2009-Senator Robert Bird is hospitalized. 58 Senators.
July 7, 2009-Senator Al Franken finally sworn in, after the GOP contested it for seven months. 59 Senators.
August 25, 2009-Senator Edward Kennedy dies. 58 Senators.
September 24, 2009-Paul Kirk fills in for Kennedy until elections can be held. 59 Senators.
February 4, 2010-Scott Brown (R) is sworn in. 58 Senators.

And because Obama never actually had a supermajority, these happened:

healthcaretrends.files.wordpress.com
msnbctv.files.wordpress.com

 But please, do go on about how the GOP doesn't obstruct our government.
 
2013-07-31 03:12:33 PM  

Aristocles: to a farklib, "troll" means "someone who likes something I don't like"


Weak troll, 1/10
 
2013-07-31 03:15:19 PM  
HAY I BET HE ISNT GOING TO WIN THE NEXT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IF HE KEEPS THIS UP, AMIRITE GUYS?!!@!@

/BECAUSE YOU CANT BE PRESIDENT MORE THAN TWICE!
//SEE THE JOKE? ITS A JOKE!LOL!
 
2013-07-31 03:16:08 PM  
i'm starting to feel bad for the obama diehards. they've become so pathetic and wretched.

we get it. you were promised so much. you've become so emotionally invested. watching the downward spiral must be so devastating. but it's ok. it's all going to be... ok.
 
2013-07-31 03:18:23 PM  

ThatDarkFellow: HAY I BET HE ISNT GOING TO WIN THE NEXT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IF HE KEEPS THIS UP, AMIRITE GUYS?!!@!@

/BECAUSE YOU CANT BE PRESIDENT MORE THAN TWICE!
//SEE THE JOKE? ITS A JOKE!LOL!


omg i get it that's a good one lolroflbbq ^__^
 
Bf+
2013-07-31 03:22:46 PM  

Aristocles: to a farklib, "troll" means "someone who likes something I don't like"


And to longer-term Farkers,
www.pawsru.org

You've already admitted that you're a troll, but why don't you try harder?
It couldn't possibly be that difficult.
 
2013-07-31 03:23:46 PM  

the_dude_abides: i'm starting to feel bad for the obama diehards. they've become so pathetic and wretched.

we get it. you were promised so much. you've become so emotionally invested. watching the downward spiral must be so devastating. but it's ok. it's all going to be... ok.


From Gallup

Bush - July 25-28, 2005:  44%

Obama - July 22-28, 2013   46%

Also, From Gallup:

Obama has lost 4 points since April.

That "downward spiral" settles it, potato afficianado: i am not voting for him into a third term!

Keep derpy, Farkcons, keep derpy.
 
2013-07-31 03:33:13 PM  

the_dude_abides: we get it. you were promised so much.


No kidding! Maybe I expected too much, but by now I figured the war in Iraq would be over, Bin Laden would be dead, we'd have passed major health care reform, the economy would be growing, and the deficit would be cut in half.

Deep down I knew it was over for Obama when he couldn't produce his long-form birth certificate.
 
2013-07-31 03:40:35 PM  
The thing I can see happening with Obama is that he becomes more forceful his last 2 years than most POTUS (depending on 2014 and if republicans keep digging their own graves).  Of course, that also requires democrats to not sit by just because it is a mid-term election.
 
2013-07-31 03:45:34 PM  
i understand your frustration. it's ok, your misguided self-righteousness and your snarky sense of humor will help you get through it. you're on the right side of history. this is just a rough patch.
 
2013-07-31 03:46:37 PM  

OhioUGrad: The thing I can see happening with Obama is that he becomes more forceful his last 2 years than most POTUS (depending on 2014 and if republicans keep digging their own graves).  Of course, that also requires democrats to not sit by just because it is a mid-term election.


I've already informed my derptastic Rep that I'll be voting against him in the primary and actual elections next time around.
 
2013-07-31 03:48:16 PM  

the_dude_abides: i understand your frustration. it's ok, your misguided self-righteousness and your snarky sense of humor will help you get through it. you're on the right side of history. this is just a rough patch.


Right side of history?  There isn't a specific issue being discussed here, you (insert word here to denote a lack of intelligence).  Presidents are put into a ranking, so there isn't a right or wrong attributed to it, you (insert another word here to denote a deficiency in mental faculties).
 
2013-07-31 03:51:48 PM  
that's the spirit, comrades! nancy will take back the house! and obama will become stronger than ever! and... and... THEN WE'LL SHOW EVERYBODY!
 
2013-07-31 04:03:03 PM  
Okay! All aboard the bananana boat!!

i466.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-31 04:13:05 PM  
I don't believe all you people who are threatening not to vote for Obama in 2016. You'll do it.
 
2013-07-31 04:21:23 PM  
FTA: I outlined five metrics to watch...: presidential job approval, consumer confidence, attitudes toward the Affordable Care Act, favorable and unfavorable attitudes toward the Democratic and Republican parties, and finally, the generic congressional ballot test. [Obama's] approval numbers seem to be dropping by about a point every three weeks.


Well, let's take a look at those metrics, shall we?

[Presidential Job Approval]
Not according to Rasmussen, or Gallup, or these guys

[Consumer Confidence]
Lynn Franco, Director of Economic Indicators at The Conference Board: "Consumer Confidence fell slightly in July, precipitated by a weakening in consumers' economic and job expectations. However, confidence remains well above the levels of a year ago. Consumers' assessment of current conditions continues to gain ground and expectations remain in expansionary territory despite the July retreat. Overall, indications are that the economy is strengthening and may even gain some momentum in the months ahead."
(Source: The Conference Board Consumer Confidence Survey

The Conference Board's index decreased to 80.3, the second-highest level since January 2008....
(Source: Bloomberg)

[Affordable Health Care Act]
A new CBS News poll finds more Americans than ever want the Affordable Care Act repealed. According to the poll, 36 percent of Americans want Congress to expand or keep the health care law while 39 percent want Congress to repeal it - the highest percentage seen in CBS News polls.
(Source: CBS)

Forty-two percent (42%) of Likely U.S. Voters have at least a somewhat favorable opinion of the health care law, while 53% view it unfavorably, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.
(Source: Rasmussen)

[Attitudes toward the Democratic and Republican parties]
Americans still rate the Republican Party less favorably than the Democratic Party, 39% vs. 46%. But both parties' ratings are down from November 2012. The Democrats' rating dropped more, from 51% just after President Barack Obama won re-election. Americans' ratings of the Democratic Party are now more on par with readings earlier in 2012, while their ratings of the GOP are the lowest since May 2010.
(Source: Gallup)

The poll asked both self-described Democrats and Republicans - including "leaners" - if they think their own parties are taking things in the right or wrong direction. Democrats approved of their party's direction, with 72% saying leadership was taking the party in the right direction to just 21% who said it was taking things in the wrong direction.

But Republicans largely disapprove of their own party's leadership, as has been the case for quite some time now. Just 37% of self-identified Republicans and Republican "leaners" say leadership is taking the party in the right direction. Meanwhile, 52% say it's taking things in the wrong direction.

That's a big change from last August, when Republicans approved of their leadership by a 58-32 margin.
(Source: Pew)

[Congressional Ballot Test]
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 39% of Likely U.S. Voters would vote for the Democrat in their district's congressional race if the election were held today, while 38% would choose the Republican instead. The week before, Democrats led by two - 40% to 38%.
(Source: Rasmussen)

So, that's 1 out of 5 he got correct. Heck, I'll be nice and give him 2/5, since the Congressional Ballot test was so close and the Dems only just got that slim 1-point lead.

Either way: no.
 
2013-07-31 05:52:01 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Well, let's take a look at those metrics, shall we?


you just wasted a bunch of time defending claims that were never made by cook. i know that you're in an emotional frenzy and have some misguided need to protect the president you've swooned over, but please, let's stick to reality. turn the rabid defense down and use your brain.

here's your false quote:

"I outlined five metrics to watch...: presidential job approval, consumer confidence, attitudes toward the Affordable Care Act, favorable and unfavorable attitudes toward the Democratic and Republican parties, and finally, the generic congressional ballot test. [Obama's] approval numbers seem to be dropping by about a point every three weeks."

that last bolded part appears much later in the article. you added it, out of sequence, to create a false context. why? oh yeah, because you're an intellectually dishonest twat like every other obama defender on fark. please do us all a favor and stop lying.
 
2013-07-31 06:09:19 PM  
The commentators on that site are actually saying that Obama's socialist policies are the cause for this.

I'm going to go bang my head against the wall until unconscious.
 
2013-07-31 06:13:01 PM  
Jesus. Wrong thread.

Banging my head against the wall again.

/Meant for the Investors article
 
2013-07-31 06:17:55 PM  

the_dude_abides: i'm starting to feel bad for the obama diehards. they've become so pathetic and wretched.

we get it. you were promised so much. you've become so emotionally invested. watching the downward spiral must be so devastating. but it's ok. it's all going to be... ok.


No substance, all butthurt.
 
2013-07-31 06:28:06 PM  

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: No substance, all butthurt.


really? so obama hasn't taken a major hit since the election? and his supporters aren't disappointed?
 
2013-07-31 06:43:20 PM  

the_dude_abides: ArcadianRefugee: Well, let's take a look at those metrics, shall we?

you just wasted a bunch of time defending claims that were never made by cook. i know that you're in an emotional frenzy and have some misguided need to protect the president you've swooned over, but please, let's stick to reality. turn the rabid defense down and use your brain.

here's your false quote:

"I outlined five metrics to watch...: presidential job approval, consumer confidence, attitudes toward the Affordable Care Act, favorable and unfavorable attitudes toward the Democratic and Republican parties, and finally, the generic congressional ballot test. [Obama's] approval numbers seem to be dropping by about a point every three weeks."

that last bolded part appears much later in the article. you added it, out of sequence, to create a false context. why? oh yeah, because you're an intellectually dishonest twat like every other obama defender on fark. please do us all a favor and stop lying.


Wait, sorry: you're right; I forgot a farking ellipsis. So go ahead and insert them yourself, or feel free to insert a closing quote and another opening quote so as to separate them as two, distinct quotations.

Now, how does that change anything, you reality-denying douche?

The claim, based on his 5 metrics, is wrong. Obama's numbers have not gone down "1 point every three weeks"; his job approval rating has fallen 4 points since two quarters ago (Gallup). Consumer confidence is up. Democrats are happier with their party than are Republicans with theirs, although both are just as likely (1 point is negligible) to vote for their party in their district's congressional race if the election were held today.

About the only thing people don't seem to like the Dems and Obama for, based on his 5 metrics, is the Healthcare Act.

So, what is your argument? That, somehow, lacking an ellipsis, my analysis of his 5 metrics:

ArcadianRefugee: Well, let's take a look at those metrics, shall we?


is wrong? That his declaration that "voters increasingly seem to have hit the mute button on President Obama" and "are no longer listening to him" is somehow made an accurate reflection of reality because of my missed punctuation? You have no defense against any of the accusations, so you attack my grammar? Really?!

Megyn Kelly's question to Karl Rove, "Is this just math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?" seems to have a friend; it's not only math, but language you idiots use to make yourselves feel better.

Holy hell, you are an ijjit.
 
2013-07-31 06:45:06 PM  

the_dude_abides: that last bolded part appears much later in the article. you added it, out of sequence


PS: If "that last bolded part appears much later in the article" then how the fark can it be "out of sequence", you moran?
 
2013-07-31 06:53:00 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Wait, sorry: you're right; I forgot a farking ellipsis. So go ahead and insert them yourself, or feel free to insert a closing quote and another opening quote so as to separate them as two, distinct quotations.

Now, how does that change anything, you reality-denying douche?


because he's not saying every one of those metrics has gone down by 1 point every 3 to 4 weeks. he's saying obama's job approval rating has fallen by 1 point every 3 to 4 weeks since mid-january (which is, by the way, true). of course, you didn't catch that because you were in full-on froth mode. you still don't seem to comprehend that you've made a stupid straw argument. stop frothing and learn how to read better.
 
2013-07-31 06:57:57 PM  

Poopspasm: chiett: ManateeGag: You need your car to get to work.  Your car doesn't start one day and you can't get to work.  Now, is it the car's fault for not starting or your fault because you can't drive a car that won't start?

 Well if I can't fix it myself it's my fault for hiring a mechanic who sucks!

This is very possibly the stupidest thing ever written in the English language.


On the other hand, he hints at a solution I'd like to see implemented.

I'd like to see Obama hire a "mechanic"... to "fix" Congress.

Surely he has a few drone pilots in his employ...?
 
2013-07-31 08:10:35 PM  

the_dude_abides: Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: No substance, all butthurt.

really? so obama hasn't taken a major hit since the election? and his supporters aren't disappointed?


No, not really. I mean, have you seen his approval ratings since 2009? They've been relatively steady around this margin.

Perhaps you should harmonize your statistical quirks, maybe study it out. Have you tried unskewing your polls?
 
2013-07-31 08:57:23 PM  

chiett: Okay, How's this jewel. "We need to pass it to find out whats in it"


www.gabitogrupos.com
 
2013-07-31 08:57:27 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I convinced that I'll never vote for the man ever again.


At the rate he's going, nobody will vote for him come 2014.
 
2013-07-31 09:16:40 PM  

verbaltoxin: HeartBurnKid: verbaltoxin: bgddy24601: verbaltoxin: MindStalker: Marcus Aurelius: I convinced that I'll never vote for the man ever again.

Has any president in modern history gone on to run for any other electable office?

Andrew Johnson was elected to the US Senate, and William Howard Taft was appointed to the Supreme Court.

John Quincy Adams was a member of the House of Representatives for something like 16 years.

That's right! I thought there had to be another. The President's post-Executive lives could be quite interesting. Most retired, but a few mounted attempts for 2nd or 3rd terms, and some remained political meddlers until the ends of their lives.

Considering Obama's relatively young, as presidents go, and seems to believe wholeheartedly in public service, I could see him going back to the Senate.  Then again, with the crap he's had to deal with for 8 years, I wouldn't blame him if he just embraced obscurity and we never heard from him again.

Kingmaker. The Clintons have been doing it for years, and Obama is their successor. Should Hilary run again, she'll have the one-two punch of Bill and Barack on the campaign trail, raising tons of cash - the very best thing Obama does as a politician.


That and winning elections, right?
 
2013-07-31 09:19:20 PM  
he's pretty much failed hope and change

though republicans can share in aiding that failure.

Basically Obama is just proof that it doesn't matter who's president, cuz money rules your 'democracy' anymore.
 
2013-07-31 09:20:59 PM  

mrEdude: he's pretty much failed hope and change

though republicans can share in aiding that failure.

Basically Obama is just proof that it doesn't matter who's president, cuz money rules your 'democracy' anymore.


Good lord, how old are you, fourteen? Anyone who hasn't known this since 1968 is either just hatched or really retarded.
 
2013-07-31 09:23:47 PM  

the_dude_abides:
because he's not saying every one of those metrics has gone down by 1 point every 3 to 4 weeks. he's saying obama's job approval rating has fallen by 1 point every 3 to 4 weeks since mid-january (which is, by the way, true).


Oh, so now it's "three to four" weeks? Since January? Neither the number nor word "four" appear in his article, excepting as it appears as a digit in a larger number. Nor does the word "January", though I suppose if you do combine those two his statement is correct as far as numbers go. Let's see.

Gallup poll: Quarter 16 (from Nov 20th to Jan 20th I am guessing) to Quarter 18 ("which ran from April 20-July 19") shows a drop from 51.9 to 47.9 -- a drop of 4 points. 4. There's your 4. 4 times 3 = 12. Hell, we'll give you another 4: 4 * 4 = 16. 16 weeks; that brings us back to the end of March. What happened to everything before that? Wanna make it every five weeks? Six? If we start mid-Jan, his numbers should have dropped by 6.6 to 8.5 points; they haven't according to this poll. To make it "by about a point every three weeks" you'd have to go down to about 0.7 points per four weeks, giving you 4.55 points. So I suppose if you wanna round to your heart's content, that works.

Rasmussen gives you a little better: 56-57% in January, to 46% now. OK, so 10 points. Ouch; given that even a 3 point spread on both sides (raising him now, lowering him then) still results in a 4 point drop over that span. So that shows in his (the article's author's) favor.

But then we take a look at RealClearPolitics average; sure, he's dropped since mid-January. And before that he'd been up since Oct 2011. But that was down from the prior May.

So yes: factually, Obama's numbers are down since mid-January.

[Insert Futurama 'technically correct' image here]

But, "They are no longer listening to him"? Uh huh. They only "seem to have hit the mute button" in this guy's mind. Obama's numbers are still higher than they were in Oct '11 . . . which I will admit is pretty easy, considering how low they were then . . . but it looks like his numbers are simply fluctuating, and someone is just taking the part at the end. That's like the climate-change deniers who say "look! it's getting cooler" because the past could of years show a slight dip, despite the fact that the trend has been upward overall for the past 100 years.*

of course, you didn't catch that because you were in full-on froth mode.

You obviously don't know me if you think I froth. I'm not an "Obamabot" any more than I was a "Bushbot". But when I see people claim stuff that I feel is false, I look up data and I correct them. If "someone on the internet is wrong" is "frothy" to you, so be it; you may as well say it's pudding for all that it matters at that point.

What I am is bored and in front of a computer. And not yet drunk.

Also, I never claimed he was "saying every one of those metrics has gone down by 1 point every 3" (or 4) weeks; I merely posted them and then said, "no".

The article was simply meaningless; "it is far too soon to make any conclusions about what kind of election we will see" and "there is a chance they just might cancel each other out".

The headline? Trollerific (since it ignores the rest of the article, which bashes both sides (so vote Republican?)). And you

learn how to read better.

I'm thinking you should take your own advice.

So I am sorry if I ruffled your feathers by not realizing the guy was meaning four weeks instead of three, unless he was rounding 0.7 way the hell up for a measurement that works in tenths. I'm sorry that my regurgitation of factual data, along with the word "no" bothered some deep-rooted anxiety of yours.

So go have a drink. Hell have two. And stop trying to argue a point that doesn't exist.

And stop moving the goal posts.

* also note that I am not saying "global warming" is man-made, irreversible, or anything else; just saying it's occurring and illustrating how people cherry-pick data to "prove" their point
 
2013-07-31 09:41:33 PM  

Aristocles: to a farklib, "troll" means "someone who likes something I don't like"


No, it means "we're giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you aren't actually stupid enough to really believe the stupid shiat you just posted".
 
2013-07-31 09:57:02 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Oh, so now it's "three to four" weeks? Since January? Neither the number nor word "four" appear in his article, excepting as it appears as a digit in a larger number. Nor does the word "January", though I suppose if you do combine those two his statement is correct as far as numbers go.


go watch the vid, he says it all very clearly within the first 40 seconds. i'm not moving the goal posts and i'm not trying to be the word police. i'm just letting you know that you're wrong because you rushed to judgment.

here it is again, what you missed because you were busy having a frothy, kneejerk reaction: "number one, obviously, you watch the president's approval ratings. because midterm elections, they are to a certain extent, a referendum on the incumbent president. and he's been dropping, since say mid-january, about a point every 3 to 4 weeks."
 
2013-07-31 10:22:13 PM  
I think we can all agree that President Obama will be look at historically as one of the greatest Presidents in the history of the United States of America.
 
2013-07-31 10:27:56 PM  

the_dude_abides: that's the spirit, comrades! nancy will take back the house! and obama will become stronger than ever! and... and... THEN WE'LL SHOW EVERYBODY!


No, we should totally vote for Republicans. They are so darn good at governing.
 
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