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(National Journal)   Voters have hit the mute button on President Obama. They are no longer listening to him, and his approval numbers seem to be dropping by about a point every three weeks   (nationaljournal.com) divider line 206
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2013-07-31 10:31:22 AM  

Aristocles: Obama doesn't, never has, and never will be able to effectively govern.

He's a career campaigner, and nothing else.

That's why all you Farklibs have been enthralled with him for the past 5 years, you're duped by charm and can't resist his turns of phrase. Meanwhile, all of America suffers.


You've already jumped the shark with this log-in.  You were pretty funny in the "RZA" thread, but it's gone downhill from there.
 
2013-07-31 10:31:34 AM  
This "National Journal" seems very... concerned.
 
2013-07-31 10:32:02 AM  
He is kinda a disappointment on some issues. He seems to be having that chased by a bear mentality where he feels like he only has to outrun the republicans who are morbidly obese and riding a hoverround with a bad wheel.
 
2013-07-31 10:32:02 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Two Greeks arguing about rhetoric. And so it goes...


It's "meta."
 
2013-07-31 10:32:29 AM  

Diogenes: Aristocles: Obama doesn't, never has, and never will be able to effectively govern.

He's a career campaigner, and nothing else.

That's why all you Farklibs have been enthralled with him for the past 5 years, you're duped by charm and can't resist his turns of phrase. Meanwhile, all of America suffers.

Given what he has managed to accomplish despite the unprincipled opposition, I'd have to say he's governed even better than many of his priors.

But seriously, I'm growing to suspect you don't even believe the nonsense you post.  You're just playing a little game.


He doesn't. See http://www.fark.com/comments/7856783/85539614#c85539614 and http://www.fark.com/comments/7856783/85540067#c85540067  for admissions.
 
2013-07-31 10:32:53 AM  

qorkfiend: It's going to take me a long time to forgive the Democratic voters who decided the 2010 midterms weren't important and stayed home on election day.


I curse them regularly. Also, I think the media played a large role in it. The backlash was less about Obamacare and mostly unemployment, although give credit to the Koch brothers and their 'grassroots' organization and getting out the vote. I hope the Democrats never forget the ground they gave up in 2010.
 
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2013-07-31 10:34:21 AM  

Aristocles: Obama doesn't, never has, and never will be able to effectively govern.

He's a career campaigner, and nothing else.

That's why all you Farklibs have been enthralled with him for the past 5 years, you're duped by charm and can't resist his turns of phrase. Meanwhile, all of America suffers.



You left out "Jesus Cried"
blog.zap2it.com
 
2013-07-31 10:35:21 AM  

Poopspasm: GoldSpider: MindStalker: Has any president in modern history gone on to run for any other electable office?

Next Democratic president nominates Obama to the SCOTUS.  Book it, done.  Heads will explode!  It will be farking great!

Honest question: do you have to be a federally appointed judge at some lower level prior to being nominated for SCOTUS?


Nope.  You don't have to be any sort of judge.  Or go to law school.  Or be literate.  You just have to be alive.  The confirmation process may be difficult though.
 
2013-07-31 10:35:38 AM  

Felgraf: As a warning, Aristocles is not posting in good faith, and is a self-admitted troll (though he wound up outing himself in a thread that got un-greenlit).

http://www.fark.com/comments/7856783/85539614#c85539614 and http://www.fark.com/comments/7856783/85540067#c85540067  for admissions.

Just, you know, before you waste any time on him.


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2013-07-31 10:36:31 AM  

Diogenes: Aristocles: Obama doesn't, never has, and never will be able to effectively govern.

He's a career campaigner, and nothing else.

That's why all you Farklibs have been enthralled with him for the past 5 years, you're duped by charm and can't resist his turns of phrase. Meanwhile, all of America suffers.

Given what he has managed to accomplish despite the unprincipled opposition, I'd have to say he's governed even better than many of his priors.

But seriously, I'm growing to suspect you don't even believe the nonsense you post.  You're just playing a little game.


Game or no game, I whole-heartedly believe Obama's number 1 strength is campaigning, a distant second is killing foreign enemies.
 
2013-07-31 10:36:53 AM  

chiett: Instead of Obama blaming everything on others why doesn't he just come out and say it.
"I cannot govern in a two party environment"


Of course you have to ignore that his party had control of both houses for two years.


But...But....Bush,  But.....But.....those mean old Republicans.


Are you counting the 6+ months that Al Franken couldn't sit in the Senate because Norm Coleman is not a fan of democracy when it doesn't go his way? Are you actually saying Ben Nelson and Evan Bayh are the same as Ron Wyden and Bernie Sanders? Are you actually counting Joe Lieberman as a Democrat?
 
2013-07-31 10:37:49 AM  

Diogenes: TheShavingofOccam123: Two Greeks arguing about rhetoric. And so it goes...

It's "mfeta."

 
2013-07-31 10:38:45 AM  

Felgraf: As a warning, Aristocles is not posting in good faith, and is a self-admitted troll (though he wound up outing himself in a thread that got un-greenlit).

http://www.fark.com/comments/7856783/85539614#c85539614 and http://www.fark.com/comments/7856783/85540067#c85540067  for admissions.

Just, you know, before you waste any time on him.


You forgot to copy/paste the date info from my profile. Farkers need to know that Aristocles is just a troll, sock-puppet, republican, teahadist, alt account created earlier this month.
 
2013-07-31 10:39:43 AM  
Obama will be fine. His supporters will continue to blame republicans for all of Obama's failings.
 
2013-07-31 10:40:41 AM  
Obama's approval ratings have not made any huge changes since he took office. They've usually ebbed and flowed about 5-10 points either direction of right in the middle.

Congress, on the other hand, has dove into single digits and has pretty consistently stayed below 20 percent ever since the big 2010 wave. Republicans, of course, deflect responsibility for that or blame the LIBERAL MEEEDIA.

Obama has been a B/B+ President, but being hamstrung by an obstructionist Congress will be how history sees his presidency. One wonders what the REAL reason Republicans have opposed every single thing he's tried to do is...
 
2013-07-31 10:42:00 AM  

GoldSpider: MindStalker: Has any president in modern history gone on to run for any other electable office?

Next Democratic president nominates Obama to the SCOTUS.  Book it, done.  Heads will explode!  It will be farking great!


THAT will kill Rush Limbaugh, for sure.
 
2013-07-31 10:42:17 AM  

verbaltoxin: MindStalker: Marcus Aurelius: I convinced that I'll never vote for the man ever again.

Has any president in modern history gone on to run for any other electable office?

Andrew Johnson was elected to the US Senate, and William Howard Taft was appointed to the Supreme Court.


John Quincy Adams was a member of the House of Representatives for something like 16 years.
 
2013-07-31 10:42:26 AM  

Mrbogey: Obama will be fine. His supporters will continue to blame republicans for all of Obama's failings.


If they didn't suck so hard he would have to step up his game too?
 
2013-07-31 10:42:51 AM  

Mrbogey: Obama will be fine. His supporters will continue to blame republicans for all of Obama's failings.


Like his failure to get laws passed in the House?
 
2013-07-31 10:44:06 AM  
One third of the country thinks most everything he says is the truth.  That's not accurate.

One third of the country thinks every other sentence he utters is a lie.  That's not accurate either.

The other third doesn't give a shiat for a variety of reasons.

I started out in the first group, dropped to the second, and have finally settled in with the latter.
 
2013-07-31 10:45:56 AM  

Aristocles: You forgot to copy/paste the date info from my profile. Farkers need to know that Aristocles is just a troll, sock-puppet, republican, teahadist, alt account created earlier this month.


Eh, I don't  know if you're a teahadist, but I do know you have no interest, apparently, in arguing in good faith, so it's not fair for folks to waste their time with you.

Life's so unfair that people call you out on your bullshiat, I know.
 
2013-07-31 10:47:08 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: One third of the country thinks most everything he says is the truth.  That's not accurate.

One third of the country thinks every other sentence he utters is a lie.  That's not accurate either.

The other third doesn't give a shiat for a variety of reasons.

I started out in the first group, dropped to the second, and have finally settled in with the latter.


Wow, and all it took was 5 years of throwing a hissy fit every day until you needed a nap. Am I supposed to start the slow clap now? I'm new at this.
 
2013-07-31 10:47:21 AM  

Aristocles: Obama doesn't, never has, and never will be able to effectively govern.

He's a career campaigner, and nothing else.

That's why all you Farklibs have been enthralled with him for the past 5 years, you're duped by charm and can't resist his turns of phrase. Meanwhile, all of America suffers.


My 401k and brokerage account could not disagree with you more. Suffer away you poor oppressed conservatives and just remember the war on Christmas starts soon so you better go buy some more guns and ammo.
 
2013-07-31 10:48:27 AM  

Mrbogey: Obama will be fine. His supporters will continue to blame republicans for all of Obama's failings.


What are his failings?  LIST THEM.
 
2013-07-31 10:49:40 AM  

Yes please: Poopspasm: GoldSpider: MindStalker: Has any president in modern history gone on to run for any other electable office?

Next Democratic president nominates Obama to the SCOTUS.  Book it, done.  Heads will explode!  It will be farking great!

Honest question: do you have to be a federally appointed judge at some lower level prior to being nominated for SCOTUS?

Nope.  You don't have to be any sort of judge.  Or go to law school.  Or be literate.  You just have to be alive.  The confirmation process may be difficult though.


So we'd have to have a filibuster proof majority first?
 
2013-07-31 10:50:34 AM  

chiett: Instead of Obama blaming everything on others why doesn't he just come out and say it.
"I cannot govern in a two party environment"


Of course you have to ignore that his party had control of both houses for two years.


But...But....Bush,  But.....But.....those mean old Republicans.


I see we are back to the ineffectual empty suit narrative.

Don't worry. Tomorrow, he will be the craft socialist imposter ramming health care reform down our throats and sending out his goon squads to implement international socialism to kill all the white people.
 
2013-07-31 10:51:47 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: One third of the country thinks most everything he says is the truth.  That's not accurate.

One third of the country thinks every other sentence he utters is a lie.  That's not accurate either.

The other third doesn't give a shiat for a variety of reasons.

I started out in the first group, dropped to the second, and have finally settled in with the latter.


...or, many people voted for him knowingly full well the man wasn't perfect, and could solve all of the country's problems within a 4-8 year period, but voted for him anyway because he seemed like the best choice of the running candidates, and the parties they represented.

Not everyone must alternate between absolutes and apathy. I think you should adjust your expectations of politics.
 
2013-07-31 10:52:30 AM  
I voted third party in the last election because I didn't want to support either candidate. Both of them had me terrified that they were going to further bad policies and continue to let Congressional status quos run rampant.

And here we are.

The most disappointing thing about Obama has been how he came in as a candidate who had a certain academic understanding of the US Constitution while also having an ability to connect with people and inspire leadership. He seemed like a modern JFK in 2008, and though I didn't buy into his hype then either (having already endured him as a senator in Illinois where he did next to nothing for his constituents aside from prep to run for president), I was optimistic that a national platform might do good things for him.

Instead, he's continued a lot of bad policies from the Bush era, shown an inability to get along with or to stand down an obstructionist Congress, and he's done the opposite of many of the points he campaigned on. It's pretty clear that the man is either a giant hypocrite or that he's beholden to the people who put him into power and that all of his rhetoric about hope and change was never a part of the plan. He's contributed to many millenials' lack of faith or interest in government (after inspiring them to get involved in 2008) and he's going to be remembered as a president who couldn't get anything accomplished aside from cracking down on whistle-blowers.

I wish Americans could learn from this and stop putting their faith in either of the two big parties. They're just two sides of the same coin, and both of them will do and say anything to hold on to their power. Next time, vote for the presidential candidate who stands up for what you believe in, not the guy (or gal) who got into the big money machine in exchange for his or her obedience.
 
2013-07-31 10:52:30 AM  

Mrbogey: all of Obama's failings.


which ones?  be specific.
 
2013-07-31 10:53:23 AM  

ManateeGag: Mrbogey: all of Obama's failings.

which ones?  be specific.


Failure to "lead".

/DRINK!
 
2013-07-31 10:55:26 AM  

coeyagi: Mrbogey: Obama will be fine. His supporters will continue to blame republicans for all of Obama's failings.

What are his failings?  LIST THEM.


1. Usurpation of Power
2. Worldwide apology tour.
3. Take guns. (GUNS!)
4. Socialism, Obamacare, governement in medicare
5. 9/11
6. gay marriage, sharia law, killing god etc
 
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2013-07-31 10:55:26 AM  

coeyagi: Mrbogey: Obama will be fine. His supporters will continue to blame republicans for all of Obama's failings.

What are his failings?  LIST THEM.


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1) He's kinda wobbly...
2) He could provide more back support...
3) He's foreign made...
 
2013-07-31 10:55:38 AM  

Ned Stark: Wise people these voters. He's utterly unlistenable. Read the transcripts if you must know what's going on.


He is a better public speaker than George W Bush, admittly that is not a high bar. but it is something.
 
2013-07-31 10:57:43 AM  
NSA spying something something ....

Not kicking republican ass and not being aggressive enough with them.
 
2013-07-31 10:58:04 AM  

spongeboob: He is a better public speaker than George W Bush, admittly that is not a high bar. but it is something.


If I dare say something positive about GWB, his self-deprecation of his public speaking ability was usually pretty funny.
 
2013-07-31 10:58:06 AM  

Aristocles: Felgraf: As a warning, Aristocles is not posting in good faith, and is a self-admitted troll (though he wound up outing himself in a thread that got un-greenlit).

http://www.fark.com/comments/7856783/85539614#c85539614 and http://www.fark.com/comments/7856783/85540067#c85540067  for admissions.

Just, you know, before you waste any time on him.

You forgot to copy/paste the date info from my profile. Farkers need to know that Aristocles is just a troll, sock-puppet, republican, teahadist, alt account created earlier this month.


Well, it makes the choice between marking you in piss-yellow 3 with the label "troll and moron" and outright iggy so much easier.
 
2013-07-31 10:58:07 AM  

chiett: Instead of Obama blaming everything on others why doesn't he just come out and say it.
"I cannot govern in a two party environment"


Of course you have to ignore that his party had control of both houses for two years.


But...But....Bush,  But.....But.....those mean old Republicans.


Yeaaaaah no.  Given that Franken wasn't sworn in until July 7th, Ted Kennedy's vote wasn't available until September 24th when Paul Kirk replaced him (giving the Dems 60 votes), and Brown won Kennedy's seat in Early 2010, they had a filibuster proof senate for about 14 weeks.  Given the GOP's penchant for filibustering pretty much everything, that doesn't leave all that much time to take advantage of said control.
 
2013-07-31 10:58:25 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: One third of the country thinks most everything he says is the truth.  That's not accurate.

One third of the country thinks every other sentence he utters is a lie.  That's not accurate either.

The other third doesn't give a shiat for a variety of reasons.

I started out in the first group, dropped to the second, and have finally settled in with the latter.


Curiosity makes me wonder what happened that you went from believing him to never believing him. Like, from a mindset type of perspective, how does this change actually happen?
 
2013-07-31 10:58:54 AM  

Gulper Eel: Can we get 535 more mute buttons?


Based on their knowledge level, I'd say 90% of the public come with a universal mute button pre-installed in their heads.
 
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2013-07-31 10:59:36 AM  
manbart:

heh-- Nice timing.
 
2013-07-31 11:00:23 AM  

chiett: Instead of Obama blaming everything on others why doesn't he just come out and say it.
"I cannot govern in a two party environment"


Of course you have to ignore that his party had control of both houses for two years.


But...But....Bush,  But.....But.....those mean old Republicans.


Oh STFU till you do something about punks like Steve Kind, Ted Cruz, Louie Gohmert, etc.
 
2013-07-31 11:00:58 AM  
www.iruntheinternet.com
 
2013-07-31 11:01:30 AM  

Triple Oak: Zeb Hesselgresser: One third of the country thinks most everything he says is the truth.  That's not accurate.

One third of the country thinks every other sentence he utters is a lie.  That's not accurate either.

The other third doesn't give a shiat for a variety of reasons.

I started out in the first group, dropped to the second, and have finally settled in with the latter.

Curiosity makes me wonder what happened that you went from believing him to never believing him. Like, from a mindset type of perspective, how does this change actually happen?


He stares into the beautiful vapid eyes of Fox and Friends Floozies and is seduced by the power of derp to believe that Obama is the Anti-Christ and that his farts are the most toxic poison the world has ever seen or something.
 
2013-07-31 11:03:09 AM  

jjorsett: Gulper Eel: Can we get 535 more mute buttons?

Based on their knowledge level, I'd say 90% of the public come with a universal mute button pre-installed in their heads.


I think that is the Dean Chambers school of skewing there.

I'd make it 70%, or 40% Republican, 20% Democrat and 10% Independent.
 
2013-07-31 11:03:57 AM  

Aristocles: Felgraf: As a warning, Aristocles is not posting in good faith, and is a self-admitted troll (though he wound up outing himself in a thread that got un-greenlit).

http://www.fark.com/comments/7856783/85539614#c85539614 and http://www.fark.com/comments/7856783/85540067#c85540067  for admissions.

Just, you know, before you waste any time on him.

You forgot to copy/paste the date info from my profile. Farkers need to know that Aristocles is just a troll, sock-puppet, republican, teahadist, alt account created earlier this month.


Thanks I just Farked you as Aristocles is just a troll, sock-puppet, republican, teahadist, alt account  and I was able to copy and paste your own words.
 
2013-07-31 11:05:24 AM  

Waldo Pepper: ManateeGag: chiett: Instead of Obama blaming everything on others why doesn't he just come out and say it.
"I cannot govern in a two party environment"


Of course you have to ignore that his party had control of both houses for two years.


But...But....Bush,  But.....But.....those mean old Republicans.

let me put it this way for you

You need your car to get to work.  Your car doesn't start one day and you can't get to work.  Now, is it the car's fault for not starting or your fault because you can't drive a car that won't start?

Did you try turning the key?


Have you checked the air in the tires lately?
 
2013-07-31 11:09:28 AM  

coeyagi: Mrbogey: Obama will be fine. His supporters will continue to blame republicans for all of Obama's failings.

What are his failings?  LIST THEM.


Are you implying that Obama doesn't have any failings?
 
2013-07-31 11:09:31 AM  

secularsage: I voted third party in the last election because I didn't want to support either candidate. Both of them had me terrified that they were going to further bad policies and continue to let Congressional status quos run rampant.

And here we are.

The most disappointing thing about Obama has been how he came in as a candidate who had a certain academic understanding of the US Constitution while also having an ability to connect with people and inspire leadership. He seemed like a modern JFK in 2008, and though I didn't buy into his hype then either (having already endured him as a senator in Illinois where he did next to nothing for his constituents aside from prep to run for president), I was optimistic that a national platform might do good things for him.

Instead, he's continued a lot of bad policies from the Bush era, shown an inability to get along with or to stand down an obstructionist Congress, and he's done the opposite of many of the points he campaigned on. It's pretty clear that the man is either a giant hypocrite or that he's beholden to the people who put him into power and that all of his rhetoric about hope and change was never a part of the plan. He's contributed to many millenials' lack of faith or interest in government (after inspiring them to get involved in 2008) and he's going to be remembered as a president who couldn't get anything accomplished aside from cracking down on whistle-blowers.

I wish Americans could learn from this and stop putting their faith in either of the two big parties. They're just two sides of the same coin, and both of them will do and say anything to hold on to their power. Next time, vote for the presidential candidate who stands up for what you believe in, not the guy (or gal) who got into the big money machine in exchange for his or her obedience.


Oh look. It's THIS guy. A case study of why we are in the mess we are.
 
2013-07-31 11:10:39 AM  

Yes please: coeyagi: Mrbogey: Obama will be fine. His supporters will continue to blame republicans for all of Obama's failings.

What are his failings?  LIST THEM.

Are you implying that Obama doesn't have any failings?


No, not any more than I am implying that your mother is a whore just because I respond back to you with a curt, insensitive response such as this.
 
2013-07-31 11:12:28 AM  

chiett: Instead of Obama blaming everything on others why doesn't he just come out and say it.
"I cannot govern in a two party environment"


Of course you have to ignore that his party had control of both houses for two years.


But...But....Bush,  But.....But.....those mean old Republicans.


Why do you have to repeat known lies about controlling both houses for two years?
 
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