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(ESPN)   If you had the end of July 2013 for the date "Honey Badger" would go back to his old ways, come claim your prize   (espn.go.com) divider line 45
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2013-07-31 11:05:12 AM  
I kinda like the guy and hope he puts all the stupid shiat he did behind himself and does OK in the NFL. He sure is small for a safety though.
 
2013-07-31 11:07:00 AM  

mikaloyd: I kinda like the guy and hope he puts all the stupid shiat he did behind himself and does OK in the NFL. He sure is small for a safety though.


What stupid shiat? He was a weed smoker. I never heard of him being a trouble maker.

It's going to be fun watching him play.
 
2013-07-31 11:10:28 AM  

ongbok: mikaloyd: I kinda like the guy and hope he puts all the stupid shiat he did behind himself and does OK in the NFL. He sure is small for a safety though.

What stupid shiat? He was a weed smoker. I never heard of him being a trouble maker.

It's going to be fun watching him play.


You have to be a real piece of shiat to get kicked off an SEC team.
 
2013-07-31 11:13:42 AM  

ongbok: What stupid shiat? He was a weed smoker.


He must have smoked a lot to need ten baggies full in his room.
 
2013-07-31 11:17:19 AM  

Champion of the Sun: ongbok: mikaloyd: I kinda like the guy and hope he puts all the stupid shiat he did behind himself and does OK in the NFL. He sure is small for a safety though.

What stupid shiat? He was a weed smoker. I never heard of him being a trouble maker.

It's going to be fun watching him play.

You have to be a real piece of shiat to get kicked off an SEC team.


Enough pot to almost make it a federal case will do it too.
 
2013-07-31 11:17:48 AM  

mikaloyd: ongbok: What stupid shiat? He was a weed smoker.

He must have smoked a lot to need ten baggies full in his room.


I'm guessing Honey Badger didn't give a shiat.

/Had to.
//Sorry.
 
2013-07-31 11:21:02 AM  

mikaloyd: I kinda like the guy and hope he puts all the stupid shiat he did behind himself and does OK in the NFL. He sure is small for a safety though.


I'm sure he'll fly high.
 
2013-07-31 11:25:15 AM  
The headline makes no sense.  Did he get caught with weed again or not?
 
2013-07-31 11:25:22 AM  
His main strength has been making big plays against college level special teams players and stripping the ball from college level wide receivers.  Maybe those skills will translate to the NFL for him.  They nerve really have for anyone else.  Of course there we guys who were great return men in college and kept it up as pros.  I can't think of a single one who wasn't a very good offensive or defensive player also.
 
2013-07-31 11:26:44 AM  

mikaloyd: ongbok: What stupid shiat? He was a weed smoker.

He must have smoked a lot to need ten baggies full in his room.


 Police said seven of the 10 bags were found inside a backpack that belonged to Bryant, the only one booked with intent to distribute.

Get your facts straight. 10 bags of weed were found. 7 in the bag of the guy who was arrested for intent to distribute, and there were 2 other people there besides him and that guy. So doesn't it make sense that he bought a bag and the other two bought a bag each? But that would destroy your whole "He's a horrible person" claim.
 
2013-07-31 11:39:50 AM  

ongbok: mikaloyd: I kinda like the guy and hope he puts all the stupid shiat he did behind himself and does OK in the NFL. He sure is small for a safety though.

What stupid shiat? He was a weed smoker. I never heard of him being a trouble maker.

It's going to be fun watching him play.


That's all we heard about but I'm guessing there's much, much more to this.  After all, Warren Sapp only smoked weed and dropped a few spots in the first round.  All we knew about Aaron Hernandez was that he smoked weed, but UF and NFL teams knew there was more to it - gang-related stuff, nothing coming close to what he's done since - so he dropped to late in the draft.  Hell, Hernandez didn't even get kicked off the team like Matthieu did.  There's clearly more to the story than we know.

But I do hope he keeps his nose clean, if he pans out he could be very fun to watch.
 
2013-07-31 11:44:22 AM  

Champion of the Sun: ongbok: mikaloyd: I kinda like the guy and hope he puts all the stupid shiat he did behind himself and does OK in the NFL. He sure is small for a safety though.

What stupid shiat? He was a weed smoker. I never heard of him being a trouble maker.

It's going to be fun watching him play.

You have to be a real piece of shiat to get kicked off an SEC team.


Or just be the sacrificial lamb to cover up for the even worse shiat the SEC team is invariably up to.
 
2013-07-31 11:55:47 AM  

Weigard: Champion of the Sun: ongbok: mikaloyd: I kinda like the guy and hope he puts all the stupid shiat he did behind himself and does OK in the NFL. He sure is small for a safety though.

What stupid shiat? He was a weed smoker. I never heard of him being a trouble maker.

It's going to be fun watching him play.

You have to be a real piece of shiat to get kicked off an SEC team.

Or just be the sacrificial lamb to cover up for the even worse shiat the SEC team is invariably up to.


No doubt the SEC team is up to worse shiat, but don't confuse a vomit-eating mutt with a 'lamb'.
 
2013-07-31 11:56:56 AM  

ongbok: mikaloyd: ongbok: What stupid shiat? He was a weed smoker.

He must have smoked a lot to need ten baggies full in his room.

 Police said seven of the 10 bags were found inside a backpack that belonged to Bryant, the only one booked with intent to distribute.

Get your facts straight. 10 bags of weed were found. 7 in the bag of the guy who was arrested for intent to distribute, and there were 2 other people there besides him and that guy. So doesn't it make sense that he bought a bag and the other two bought a bag each? But that would destroy your whole "He's a horrible person" claim.


He never said he is a horrible person. He literally said he hopes he succeeds.

The Honey Badger is not going to sleep with you.
 
2013-07-31 12:00:48 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: ongbok: mikaloyd: I kinda like the guy and hope he puts all the stupid shiat he did behind himself and does OK in the NFL. He sure is small for a safety though.

What stupid shiat? He was a weed smoker. I never heard of him being a trouble maker.

It's going to be fun watching him play.

That's all we heard about but I'm guessing there's much, much more to this.  After all, Warren Sapp only smoked weed and dropped a few spots in the first round.  All we knew about Aaron Hernandez was that he smoked weed, but UF and NFL teams knew there was more to it - gang-related stuff, nothing coming close to what he's done since - so he dropped to late in the draft.  Hell, Hernandez didn't even get kicked off the team like Matthieu did.  There's clearly more to the story than we know.

But I do hope he keeps his nose clean, if he pans out he could be very fun to watch.


He was kicked off the team for repeatedly testing positive for weed, and not like 3 or 4 times, were talking about the double digits. And after the news of him getting kicked off the team, or the news about him getting arrested at his apartment, with him being the main sports story for a while, don't you think if there was anything else it would have come out then?

Aaron Hernandez was never a main national sports story while he was in college for anything negative. I sure if he was, or got kicked off the team for a failed drug test, somebody would have dug into his background and found something.
 
2013-07-31 12:02:04 PM  

babysealclubber: ongbok: mikaloyd: ongbok: What stupid shiat? He was a weed smoker.

He must have smoked a lot to need ten baggies full in his room.

 Police said seven of the 10 bags were found inside a backpack that belonged to Bryant, the only one booked with intent to distribute.

Get your facts straight. 10 bags of weed were found. 7 in the bag of the guy who was arrested for intent to distribute, and there were 2 other people there besides him and that guy. So doesn't it make sense that he bought a bag and the other two bought a bag each? But that would destroy your whole "He's a horrible person" claim.

He never said he is a horrible person. He literally said he hopes he succeeds.

The Honey Badger is not going to sleep with you.


You mean his implying that he was a drug dealer isn't trying to say he is a horrible person?
 
2013-07-31 12:05:59 PM  

ongbok: You mean his implying that he was a drug dealer isn't trying to say he is a horrible person?


While implying someone is a drug dealer isn't exactly intended as a ringing endorsement, I doubt his intent was to specifically say he was a bad person.
 
2013-07-31 12:06:51 PM  

ongbok: babysealclubber: ongbok: mikaloyd: ongbok: What stupid shiat? He was a weed smoker.

He must have smoked a lot to need ten baggies full in his room.

 Police said seven of the 10 bags were found inside a backpack that belonged to Bryant, the only one booked with intent to distribute.

Get your facts straight. 10 bags of weed were found. 7 in the bag of the guy who was arrested for intent to distribute, and there were 2 other people there besides him and that guy. So doesn't it make sense that he bought a bag and the other two bought a bag each? But that would destroy your whole "He's a horrible person" claim.

He never said he is a horrible person. He literally said he hopes he succeeds.

The Honey Badger is not going to sleep with you.

You mean his implying that he was a drug dealer isn't trying to say he is a horrible person?


I never saw him say that. Only that 10 bags is a lot of weed to smoke, and that it was stupid. No where did I see it implied that made him a horrible person. Not everyone thinks pot dealing is reprehensible.
 
2013-07-31 12:17:02 PM  
Really wanted my team to draft that guy, hope he re adopts the nickname cause its just too much fun to say
 
2013-07-31 12:23:59 PM  
Patrick Peterson mentors Tyrann....

perhaps the biggest factor in the Cards picking Mathieu was the relationship he already had with 3rd year CB / returner Patrick Peterson. Peterson has taken Methieu in literally and figuratively, and by every account their relationship is tremendous.

also, TM signed a heavily incentive-based deal, with I believe voluntary drug testing above and beyond what the CBA calls for. He appears to be bona fide about putting his past behind him. wish him well.
 
2013-07-31 12:31:52 PM  

ongbok: You mean his implying that he was a drug dealer isn't trying to say he is a horrible person?


I didn't infer anything about being a horrible person.  Granted, a lot of drug dealers are horrible people, but I didn't even get that he was suggesting he was a drug dealer.  I thought the implication was that he made horrible decisions, put himself in front of the team, and prioritized short time fun over long term success.
 
2013-07-31 12:42:02 PM  
i read the article.

so, i guess by old ways, you mean being called honey badger.
 
2013-07-31 02:15:58 PM  

babysealclubber: ongbok: babysealclubber: ongbok: mikaloyd: ongbok: What stupid shiat? He was a weed smoker.

He must have smoked a lot to need ten baggies full in his room.

 Police said seven of the 10 bags were found inside a backpack that belonged to Bryant, the only one booked with intent to distribute.

Get your facts straight. 10 bags of weed were found. 7 in the bag of the guy who was arrested for intent to distribute, and there were 2 other people there besides him and that guy. So doesn't it make sense that he bought a bag and the other two bought a bag each? But that would destroy your whole "He's a horrible person" claim.

He never said he is a horrible person. He literally said he hopes he succeeds.

The Honey Badger is not going to sleep with you.

You mean his implying that he was a drug dealer isn't trying to say he is a horrible person?

I never saw him say that. Only that 10 bags is a lot of weed to smoke, and that it was stupid. No where did I see it implied that made him a horrible person. Not everyone thinks pot dealing is reprehensible.


not really.  how big were the bags? nickels, dimes, quarters, ounces?
 
2013-07-31 02:30:24 PM  
As Rick James said; Cocaine is one hell of a drug.

I hope this guy does bounce back. He was a great ball player at LSU and has potential to be a strong pro if he does not go back down the drug road. I suspect if he did the NFL would blackball him fast.
 
2013-07-31 02:46:01 PM  
He's gonna get burned all day long.
 
2013-07-31 03:20:15 PM  
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2013-07-31 03:22:29 PM  
Much like Aaron Hernandez, he gets to stop smoking pot for a year or two. In time, once the random drug tests stop, he'll be back to smoking the reefer.

As for his abilities? He's undersized, but fast, and plays with reckless abandon. We'll see how long that lasts when a few running backs use him as a speed bump. The big difference between college and pros is in the pros, you don't get a cupcake schedule all year, every team is stocked with the best players in the league... except the Jags and Browns.
 
2013-07-31 03:28:27 PM  

uknowzit: He's gonna get burned all day long.


Say what you will about him, he knows how to deliver the hits.
 
2013-07-31 04:02:15 PM  

HST's Dead Carcass: Much like Aaron Hernandez, he gets to stop smoking pot for a year or two. In time, once the random drug tests stop, he'll be back to smoking the reefer.

As for his abilities? He's undersized, but fast, and plays with reckless abandon. We'll see how long that lasts when a few running backs use him as a speed bump. The big difference between college and pros is in the pros, you don't get a cupcake schedule all year, every team is stocked with the best players in the league... except the Jags and Browns.


And they're heads and shoulders above the best college football teams.
 
2013-07-31 04:45:18 PM  

Arkanaut: uknowzit: He's gonna get burned all day long.

Say what you will about him, he knows how to deliver the hits.


In college sure.  too many 6 foot 2 WR in the NFL  that are faster then him and stronger.
midget DB's don't last in the modern NFL.
 
2013-07-31 04:52:16 PM  

uknowzit: Arkanaut: uknowzit: He's gonna get burned all day long.

Say what you will about him, he knows how to deliver the hits.

In college sure.  too many 6 foot 2 WR in the NFL  that are faster then him and stronger.
midget DB's don't last in the modern NFL.


Oh.  I thought that you were going for a marijuana pun.
 
2013-07-31 05:15:40 PM  

uknowzit: too many 6 foot 2 WR in the NFL that are faster then him and stronger.
midget DB's don't last in the modern NFL.



true, but there's a perspective to Mathieu that needs to be addressed.  It isn't like the Cards took him, you know, #5 overall the way we did Peterson:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9306034/tyrann-mathieu-signs-deal- ar izona-cardinals

Mathieu, drafted by Arizona in the third round of April's draft, signed a four-year deal that includes a fully guaranteed signing bonus worth $662,500, league sources told ESPN's Ed Werder.
Mathieu will only receive $265,000 upfront and will receive the rest of the money in the way of annual roster bonuses, a source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

In addition to the $265,000, Mathieu will receive conditional roster bonuses of $99,000 in 2013 and $102,000 in 2014, and a salary guarantee of $196,000 in 2014, the source told Schefter.


he was 69th overall.  If he fails a drug test or just flat out doesn't produce on the field, what have we lost?  Those numbers are at best, pedestrian, in terms of what he's getting.  He's only going to get a max contract if he lasts 4 years in the NFL.

if he does produce, and makes even one Pro Bowl, I'm not saying it is Tom Brady in the 6th or Tony Romo going undrafted, but......if you get a Pro Bowl pick out of the 3rd round, that's saying something.
 
2013-07-31 05:38:49 PM  

rickythepenguin: if he does produce, and makes even one Pro Bowl, I'm not saying it is Tom Brady in the 6th or Tony Romo going undrafted, but......if you get a Pro Bowl pick out of the 3rd round, that's saying something.


He'll never even be the best at his position in his division. If he plays CB he'll never even be the best on his team. Hey, he'll never even be the best on his team from LSU.
 
2013-07-31 06:19:58 PM  

IAmRight: He'll never even be the best at his position in his division. If he plays CB he'll never even be the best on his team. Hey, he'll never even be the best on his team from LSU.



i will invoke the Tao Of Parcells ("let's not put this kid in Canton just yet") but all i'm saying is, if there was the implication from dude's post above that a smallish corner won't last in the NFL, the Cardinals didn't exactly break the bank or "over draft" him.  if he's out of the NFL within, say, 3 years, for any reason, who cares?

conversely, if he does produce -- independently of the 'best in the West' / 'best out of his college analsys -- on any level, whether pro bowl or not, meaning, if he can be a 3 or 4 year starter, it would be a fantastic value pick.

not a direct comparison, but take what the cards did with DRC.  first rounder, something like 13th, 17th overall.  traded to Philly in the Kolb deal, underperformed, now he's with the Donks or Raiders or some shiat.  Not a great career and in retrospect, certainly not a first round pick.  If TM can give us 14 games a  year for 4 years and start, huge value.  that's all i'm saying.
 
2013-07-31 07:11:29 PM  
The difference between the NCAA and the NFL is simple. On Saturday you are playing against teams where 90% of the players will not make it to the NFL and are more than likely more concerned about the biology exam on Monday than the game. In the NFL, the guy lined up across from you is nothing more than a paid assassin and on every play will do whatever it takes to destroy you and your career with a single hit.

He's quick, but I wonder how he'll do against a 300 lb lineman leading a running play.
 
2013-07-31 07:41:53 PM  

rickythepenguin: IAmRight: He'll never even be the best at his position in his division. If he plays CB he'll never even be the best on his team. Hey, he'll never even be the best on his team from LSU.


i will invoke the Tao Of Parcells ("let's not put this kid in Canton just yet") but all i'm saying is, if there was the implication from dude's post above that a smallish corner won't last in the NFL, the Cardinals didn't exactly break the bank or "over draft" him.  if he's out of the NFL within, say, 3 years, for any reason, who cares?

conversely, if he does produce -- independently of the 'best in the West' / 'best out of his college analsys -- on any level, whether pro bowl or not, meaning, if he can be a 3 or 4 year starter, it would be a fantastic value pick.

not a direct comparison, but take what the cards did with DRC.  first rounder, something like 13th, 17th overall.  traded to Philly in the Kolb deal, underperformed, now he's with the Donks or Raiders or some shiat.  Not a great career and in retrospect, certainly not a first round pick.  If TM can give us 14 games a  year for 4 years and start, huge value.  that's all i'm saying.


Oh, I don't think it was a bad pick. I'm just criticizing and I hope he fails because he's a Cardinal.

/and because he's from LSU
 
2013-07-31 07:44:03 PM  

babysealclubber: The Honey Badger is not going to sleep with you.


Honey Badger isn't going to sleep with anyone because Honey Badger doesn't give a fark.
 
2013-07-31 08:10:37 PM  

Yes please: His main strength has been making big plays against college level special teams players and stripping the ball from college level wide receivers.  Maybe those skills will translate to the NFL for him.  They nerve really have for anyone else.  Of course there we guys who were great return men in college and kept it up as pros.  I can't think of a single one who wasn't a very good offensive or defensive player also.


Besides the midget that returns kicks for the Broncos?  Or Devin Hester?
 
2013-07-31 08:36:40 PM  
No offense to this guy, but I kind of hope that he fails in the NFL.

He would probably be a stellar fit up north in the CFL. Fast guys too small for the NFL have often been the top CFL players (when they can play their position to start with). Plus he would likely be entertaining as hell and smaller opponents on a bigger field can only help.

That said, I wish him all the luck in the NFL.
 
2013-07-31 08:49:04 PM  
That's not a honey badger
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This is a honey badger!
 
2013-07-31 09:19:14 PM  

elguerodiablo: Yes please: His main strength has been making big plays against college level special teams players and stripping the ball from college level wide receivers.  Maybe those skills will translate to the NFL for him.  They nerve really have for anyone else.  Of course there we guys who were great return men in college and kept it up as pros.  I can't think of a single one who wasn't a very good offensive or defensive player also.

Besides the midget that returns kicks for the Broncos?  Or Devin Hester?


Trindon Holliday?  He's been in the league three seasons, two years on IR/practice squad, cut once, had half a season with the Broncos and a couple of big returns.  Let's not call the Hall of Fame yet.
 
2013-08-01 02:48:45 AM  
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Honey Badger gets arrested for 10 bags of weed and kicked off the team?  Honey Badger don't care.
 
2013-08-01 08:47:39 AM  

elguerodiablo: Besides the midget that returns kicks for the Broncos? Or Devin Hester?


Darren Sproles is only 5' 6".
 
2013-08-01 08:58:52 AM  

uknowzit: too many 6 foot 2 WR in the NFL that are faster then him and stronger.
midget DB's don't last in the modern NFL.


Reed's listed at 5' 11".  Whitner, Bryd and Polamalu are listed at 5' 10".

Mathieu's listed at 5' 9".

I'm not predicting the Pro Bowl for Mathieu, but I think he was worth the risk of a third round pick.
 
2013-08-01 10:54:30 AM  

Slow To Return: uknowzit: too many 6 foot 2 WR in the NFL that are faster then him and stronger.
midget DB's don't last in the modern NFL.

Reed's listed at 5' 11".  Whitner, Bryd and Polamalu are listed at 5' 10".

Mathieu's listed at 5' 9".

I'm not predicting the Pro Bowl for Mathieu, but I think he was worth the risk of a third round pick.


LOL  I trolled a little.   3rd round pick is about right.  He'll be fine as a safety.  He is a bit short but that is more of a problem at cornerback.
 
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