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2013-07-31 09:34:24 AM
Don't use your religion to hate and don't hide behind it like a shield when you're called out for said hate.

That was easy.
 
2013-07-31 09:58:26 AM
When will Texas stop persecuting Christians?
 
2013-07-31 10:04:15 AM
Derp tends to happen when you live in the South.
 
2013-07-31 10:04:51 AM
I understand the spirit of the law, but you can't bar a person from office because he said awful things in the past.  Especially if there is no time limit.

You can make it illegal for them to do it going forward, but it is up to the voters to decide if they feel the person has reformed.
 
2013-07-31 10:05:38 AM

vernonFL: When will Texas stop persecuting Christians?


Wouldn't the bigger question be are there any Christians in Texas? The ones we hear most often about in the state don't seem to follow any of the teachings of Jesus.
 
2013-07-31 10:08:11 AM
Businesses don't have religious views because they are not people. IBM can't go to church.

Their owners and CEOs loft their views on others and cry foul.
 
2013-07-31 10:08:44 AM

EvilEgg: I understand the spirit of the law, but you can't bar a person from office because he said awful things in the past.  Especially if there is no time limit.

You can make it illegal for them to do it going forward, but it is up to the voters to decide if they feel the person has reformed.


Also if anyone has protested against war/troops they can't serve either.
 
2013-07-31 10:09:08 AM
You're oppressing us because we want to oppress others.

The ironing is delicious.
 
2013-07-31 10:09:26 AM
It sounds like they're just adding some more classes to an existing statute, so ostensibly they already prohibit seats and contracts based on prior discrimination against sex, race, etc.
 
2013-07-31 10:09:57 AM
Note the source of the article - one of the derpiest super-far-right fundamentalists out there.
 
2013-07-31 10:10:44 AM

EvilEgg: you can't bar a person from office because he said awful things in the past


Sure you can.

/Have you never watched a Senate confirmation hearing?
 
2013-07-31 10:11:06 AM
Texas is the official derp state.

They have the highest ratio of how retarded they are to how special they think they are.
 
2013-07-31 10:11:40 AM

cjoshuav: Note the source of the article - one of the derpiest super-far-right fundamentalists out there.


That's what I was thinking. When your first quote is from a member of a designated hate group, you're probably doing something wrong.
 
2013-07-31 10:15:13 AM

cjoshuav: Note the source of the article - one of the derpiest super-far-right fundamentalists out there.


Yeah, stopped reading when the second sentence was "Join the author in fighting the culture wars!"
 
2013-07-31 10:16:32 AM
As a social liberal, this proposed law is terrible.  Barring individuals from running for city council based on their viewpoints?  If you don't like them, don't vote for them.  It's simple.
 
2013-07-31 10:17:36 AM

limeyfellow: Wouldn't the bigger question be are there any Christians in Texas? The ones we hear most often about in the state don't seem to follow any of the teachings of Jesus



Oh, I'm pretty sure that this is *exactly* what Jesus had in mind!


www.toomanymornings.com
 
2013-07-31 10:18:30 AM
Barring bigots from an office where said bigotry would hurt innocent people is "full derp," subby? Really?

i560.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-31 10:20:01 AM
But all liberals do is "go full derp." Without that they'd have to look for jobs or find something productive to do.
 
2013-07-31 10:20:15 AM

EvilEgg: I understand the spirit of the law, but you can't bar a person from office because he said awful things in the past.  Especially if there is no time limit.

You can make it illegal for them to do it going forward, but it is up to the voters to decide if they feel the person has reformed.


according to the city councilman leading the effort, this rule already exists in city law. this proposal just expands what is considered awful.

http://www.ksat.com/news/changes-to-san-antonios-antidiscrimination- or dinance-draws-fire/-/478452/21171514/-/126m8txz/-/index.html

Dallas passed the same rule a decade ago, and christians still have positions in that city's government.
 
2013-07-31 10:21:09 AM
But no one gets upset when Fox News bans reality.
 
2013-07-31 10:24:17 AM
So subby submits a link to a mainstream Conservative hate site, which serves as the media wing of a mainstream Conservative hate group, which quotes a representative from a mainstream Fundamentalist hate group, in defense of Conservative Christians' right to hate, centered in Texas, the Hate State. Did I miss anything?
 
2013-07-31 10:24:34 AM
Right wing religious nuts aren't going to be able to spew their hatred and bigotry as elected officials. This is what passes for derp to conservatives.
 
2013-07-31 10:25:44 AM
radio.foxnews.com? Seems legit and totally unimpeachable a source.
 
2013-07-31 10:25:49 AM
fsmfacepalm.jpg
 
2013-07-31 10:26:41 AM

Wellon Dowd: The ironing is delicious.


GIS for delicious ironing:
www.southphillyblocks.org
/missed my breakfast
 
2013-07-31 10:30:27 AM

EvilEgg: I understand the spirit of the law, but you can't bar a person from office because he said awful things in the past.  Especially if there is no time limit.

You can make it illegal for them to do it going forward, but it is up to the voters to decide if they feel the person has reformed.


This is more than that. If TFA is accurate, the law bars you from office for having unapproved opinions on some issues. Presumably you could be asked to fill out a questionnaire and one wrong answer, you're out. Once that Rubicon is crossed, there's no reason it couldn't be extended to all employment, university admission, or whatever else the government decides. This is exactly why we have a first amendment.
 
2013-07-31 10:32:43 AM

SpectroBoy: Texas is the official derp state.

They have the highest ratio of how retarded they are to how special they think they are.


memedepot.com

Ratios do not work that way!

high number:high number ~ low number:low number

A high ratio would be something like how special they think they are to how special they actually are.
 
2013-07-31 10:32:50 AM
a move that had critics accusing the council of playing politics with the military.

They do realize the military is entirely political, right? They are a part of the government, the commander-in-chief is the top politician of the country, they get funded by the taxpayers... There is nothing apolitical about the military.
 
2013-07-31 10:33:07 AM

jjorsett: EvilEgg: I understand the spirit of the law, but you can't bar a person from office because he said awful things in the past.  Especially if there is no time limit.

You can make it illegal for them to do it going forward, but it is up to the voters to decide if they feel the person has reformed.

This is more than that. If TFA is accurate, the law bars you from office for having unapproved opinions on some issues. Presumably you could be asked to fill out a questionnaire and one wrong answer, you're out. Once that Rubicon is crossed, there's no reason it couldn't be extended to all employment, university admission, or whatever else the government decides. This is exactly why we have a first amendment.


This law has been in the books for decades. It's just being expanded to include sexual orientation along with race, age, etc.

Why was it completely ok up until the decision to include sexual orientation?
 
2013-07-31 10:35:05 AM
San Antonio Proposal Could Bar Christians From City Council

Wow, that's pretty bad. Christians specifically, huh? How did they think that they would sneak this one...

Oh, wait...

The proposed change would add "sexual orientation" and "gender identity" to the city's discrimination ordinance. It would protect gays, lesbians, transgender, and veterans - a move that had critics accusing the council of playing politics with the military.

Really? I want to get this straight here..l. They're being "persecuted" because the city is adding protections to keep a group from getting persecuted? Texas? You're a bunch of assholes. Subby? You're an illiterate moron. There's no problem here, people are NOT trying to keep Christians off of the city council, as TFA's headline(And you) implies...
 
2013-07-31 10:37:05 AM

SpectroBoy: Texas is the official derp state.

They have the highest ratio of how retarded they are to how special they think they are.


I lived there for a brief time. That is a highly accurate statement.
 
2013-07-31 10:37:45 AM
No, this does NOT ban Christians.

It bans Christians that "engaged in discrimination or demonstrated a bias, by word or deed, against any person, group or organization on the basis of race, color, religion, national origin, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, veteran status, age or disability"

As the Catholic Church itself has pointed out in recent days; they believe that homosexuality is a sin but their catechism teaches that homosexuals should be treated with dignity, respect and compassion.

A proper Christian would never engage in descrimination or demonstrate bias because it goes against their teaching; one of tolerance.

Unfortunately SO MANY Christians are poor ones that don't understand their own religion.
 
2013-07-31 10:39:56 AM
I love the fact that no matter how obviously stupid the subject or event is, half will angrily disagree as long as you assign blame to liberals/conservatives
 
2013-07-31 10:40:10 AM
"It's extremely dangerous," said Ken Klukowski, of the Family Research Council.

That guy's one K away from being a cross burnin', night ridin' dangerous human trafficking, drug dealing domestic terrorist son of a biatch.
 
2013-07-31 10:40:47 AM

scottydoesntknow: jjorsett: EvilEgg: I understand the spirit of the law, but you can't bar a person from office because he said awful things in the past.  Especially if there is no time limit.

You can make it illegal for them to do it going forward, but it is up to the voters to decide if they feel the person has reformed.

This is more than that. If TFA is accurate, the law bars you from office for having unapproved opinions on some issues. Presumably you could be asked to fill out a questionnaire and one wrong answer, you're out. Once that Rubicon is crossed, there's no reason it couldn't be extended to all employment, university admission, or whatever else the government decides. This is exactly why we have a first amendment.

This law has been in the books for decades. It's just being expanded to include sexual orientation along with race, age, etc.

Why was it completely ok up until the decision to include sexual orientation?


Because the queerfolk are all satanists who want to rape your babies the minute they pop out of a woman's filthy unmentionalble place.
 
2013-07-31 10:41:29 AM

Mikey1969: San Antonio Proposal Could Bar Christians From City Council

Wow, that's pretty bad. Christians specifically, huh? How did they think that they would sneak this one...

Oh, wait...

The proposed change would add "sexual orientation" and "gender identity" to the city's discrimination ordinance. It would protect gays, lesbians, transgender, and veterans - a move that had critics accusing the council of playing politics with the military.

Really? I want to get this straight here..l. They're being "persecuted" because the city is adding protections to keep a group from getting persecuted? Texas? You're a bunch of assholes. Subby? You're an illiterate moron. There's no problem here, people are NOT trying to keep Christians off of the city council, as TFA's headline(And you) implies...


"No person shall be appointed to a position if the city council finds that such person has, prior to such proposed appointment, engaged in discrimination or demonstrated a bias, by word or deed, against any person, group or organization on the basis of race, color, religion, national origin, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, veteran status, age or disability, stuff we can be sued for in civil court" the ordinance reads.

FTFY
 
2013-07-31 10:41:32 AM

SpectroBoy: Texas is the official derp state.

They have the highest ratio of how retarded they are to how special they think they are.


true - I get the impression that people from Kansas know deep down that it sucks. Texans keep bleating about 'God's country' and other such nonsense where they claim they live in the best place in the world despite that being hilariously obviously untrue. The only other group I have seen do this to the same level are Clevelanders.
 
2013-07-31 10:42:08 AM

Deathfrogg: scottydoesntknow: jjorsett: EvilEgg: I understand the spirit of the law, but you can't bar a person from office because he said awful things in the past.  Especially if there is no time limit.

You can make it illegal for them to do it going forward, but it is up to the voters to decide if they feel the person has reformed.

This is more than that. If TFA is accurate, the law bars you from office for having unapproved opinions on some issues. Presumably you could be asked to fill out a questionnaire and one wrong answer, you're out. Once that Rubicon is crossed, there's no reason it couldn't be extended to all employment, university admission, or whatever else the government decides. This is exactly why we have a first amendment.

This law has been in the books for decades. It's just being expanded to include sexual orientation along with race, age, etc.

Why was it completely ok up until the decision to include sexual orientation?

Because the queerfolk are all satanists who want to rape your babies the minute they pop out of a woman's filthy unmentionalble place.


That's what I figured jjorsett was going to say, he just couldn't articulate it as well as you did.
 
2013-07-31 10:42:34 AM

abfalter: No, this does NOT ban Christians.

It bans Christians that "engaged in discrimination or demonstrated a bias, by word or deed, against any person, group or organization on the basis of race, color, religion, national origin, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, veteran status, age or disability"

As the Catholic Church itself has pointed out in recent days; they believe that homosexuality is a sin but their catechism teaches that homosexuals should be treated with dignity, respect and compassion.

A proper Christian would never engage in descrimination or demonstrate bias because it goes against their teaching; one of tolerance.

Unfortunately SO MANY Christians are poor ones that don't understand their own religion.


We could get into a No True Scotsman argument here, but my position is that Christianity does, in fact, proscribe homosexuality, and the "true" Christians are the bigots who are taking the Bible at its word. Rather than watering down Christianity, turning it into a form that can stick around to find some other social issue to pester us about, I'd rather it stay extreme so it can be done away with completely all the sooner.
 
2013-07-31 10:42:51 AM

JSam21: Also if anyone has protested against war/troops they can't serve either.


There are so many things wrong with this statement I can't even count that high. I'll just start by saying that if you conflate protesting against a war with protesting against its troops then fark you.
 
2013-07-31 10:43:42 AM
Something tells me that even though a lot of people have already pointed out that this law already exists, and they are just adding sexual orientation to an existing list of things you can't be a bigot over, that point is going to be generally ignored by the right-leaning Farkers who comment here.
 
2013-07-31 10:46:31 AM
"In the long run, we know this is an attack against people who think that homosexuality is wrong."
Said the pastor, with a straight face.
/pun intended

The proposal is really dumb because it just violates the freedom of religion principle but, to me, that whole "persecution of christians" thing is just about a bunch of nosey bigots who fancy themselves as heroic half-nude warriors facing lions rather than the pasty white paper-pushers they really are.

I might give their whinings any consideration the day they'll have to sit in the back of buses, get sent to psych ward for their sexual orientations or burnt at stakes for the populace's shiat and giggles.

/at least Starnes used the term 'LGBT' instead of 'fa**ots'
//might be some auto-correct software proper to Fox News
 
2013-07-31 10:49:04 AM

Tigger: SpectroBoy: Texas is the official derp state.

They have the highest ratio of how retarded they are to how special they think they are.

true - I get the impression that people from Kansas know deep down that it sucks. Texans keep bleating about 'God's country' and other such nonsense where they claim they live in the best place in the world despite that being hilariously obviously untrue. The only other group I have seen do this to the same level are Clevelanders.


What, nothing about New Yorkers?
 
2013-07-31 10:50:20 AM
Sorry, everyone, but this is America and bigoted assholes have the right to be bigoted assholes.
 
2013-07-31 10:50:25 AM
Man Smashes Balls with Hammer Repeatedly, Was A Liberal


"Bullshiat! That's nothing compared to stupid ass teabaggers who are..."
 
rpm
2013-07-31 10:53:29 AM

Dancis_Frake: The proposal is really dumb because it just violates the freedom of religion principle


And there are religious sects that believe that people are black because of the mark of cain and are sinful. Should race be removed from the law? If not, why not, and how is it any different?
 
2013-07-31 10:59:03 AM

Tommy Moo: abfalter: No, this does NOT ban Christians.

It bans Christians that "engaged in discrimination or demonstrated a bias, by word or deed, against any person, group or organization on the basis of race, color, religion, national origin, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, veteran status, age or disability"

As the Catholic Church itself has pointed out in recent days; they believe that homosexuality is a sin but their catechism teaches that homosexuals should be treated with dignity, respect and compassion.

A proper Christian would never engage in descrimination or demonstrate bias because it goes against their teaching; one of tolerance.

Unfortunately SO MANY Christians are poor ones that don't understand their own religion.

We could get into a No True Scotsman argument here, but my position is that Christianity does, in fact, proscribe homosexuality, and the "true" Christians are the bigots who are taking the Bible at its word. Rather than watering down Christianity, turning it into a form that can stick around to find some other social issue to pester us about, I'd rather it stay extreme so it can be done away with completely all the sooner.


We live in a secular democracy.
 
2013-07-31 10:59:04 AM
OK - you got 'em. The score is now Conservatives 8451258, Liberals 1.
 
2013-07-31 10:59:25 AM
I wish proposal would ban christians from government, but it doesn't.  Just more faux outrage from Faux News.
 
2013-07-31 10:59:36 AM
foxnews huh?

no clicky for you
 
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