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(World Review)   Islamist government experiments in Egypt and Turkey seem similar, but are actually polar opposites. Turkey has the political mechanisms to survive recent social upheaval. Egypt will continue to listen to the language of violence   (worldreview.info) divider line 14
    More: Sad, Islamists, antipodal point, Turkey, Egypt, street protesters, religious fundamentalism, mechanisms, experiments  
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2013-07-31 10:34:07 AM
Accurate headline with no humor means I don't have to read the article?  Thanks subby.
 
2013-07-31 10:41:38 AM
Turkey is going to experience Islamic fundamentalism from the inside out. It's been a slow process and I think the pro-western population will just get tired of fighting and say "as long as it stays out of my neighborhood, I'm okay with it".
 
2013-07-31 10:42:31 AM
It helps that Turkey has a working Democracy and hasn't had a coup for 100% of it's elected president's so far.

It probably also doesn't help that Egypt's military does things like massacre protesters supporting said deposed president.
 
2013-07-31 10:44:45 AM
Subby left out the CIA backed military
 
2013-07-31 10:57:48 AM

dehehn: It helps that Turkey has a working Democracy and hasn't had a coup for 100% of it's elected president's so far.

It probably also doesn't help that Egypt's military does things like massacre protesters supporting said deposed president.


If you think Turkey hasn't had a coup for its elected presidents you may have forgotten about the half-dozen they've had over the past few decades.
 
2013-07-31 10:58:46 AM

dehehn: It helps that Turkey has a working Democracy and hasn't had a coup for 100% of it's elected president's so far.

It probably also doesn't help that Egypt's military does things like massacre protesters supporting said deposed president.


That's not true at all, the military in Turkey is seen as a protector of the secular state and has engaged in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey#Republic_of_Turkey">numero us coups</a>. In Egypt they were likely hoping for the military to play a similar role, but it seems they are just trying to consolidate their power in the new situation.
 
2013-07-31 10:59:20 AM
Egypt = Early 20th Century Ireland who's waiting for their Michael Collins.
 
2013-07-31 11:12:41 AM

Matrix Flavored Wasabi: dehehn: It helps that Turkey has a working Democracy and hasn't had a coup for 100% of it's elected president's so far.

It probably also doesn't help that Egypt's military does things like massacre protesters supporting said deposed president.

That's not true at all, the military in Turkey is seen as a protector of the secular state and has engaged in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey#Republic_of_Turkey">numero us coups</a>. In Egypt they were likely hoping for the military to play a similar role, but it seems they are just trying to consolidate their power in the new situation.

find leadership that isn't going to send them to die in an Ethiopian jungle.

/ftfy
 
2013-07-31 11:25:05 AM
Turkey's Islamists will gradually die out just like Egypt's. The support base for Egypt's Islamists, however, is not ideologues, it's the poor, and the poor only support the Islamists because the Islamists have a history of helping them out. The situation in Egypt is not as dire as it seems, though the military's not really making things better at the moment.

 

dehehn: It helps that Turkey has a working Democracy and hasn't had a coup for 100% of it's elected president's so far.

It probably also doesn't help that Egypt's military does things like massacre protesters supporting said deposed president.


Well, it helps that no one cares about the President of Turkey because the position is virtually powerless.
 
2013-07-31 11:38:14 AM
The enemy of my enemy is friend,
The enemy of my enemy is friend,
The enemy of my enemy is friend,
The enemy of my enemy is friend,
The enemy of my enemy is friend,

...keep repeating that!
 
2013-07-31 12:11:01 PM

RevCarter: dehehn: It helps that Turkey has a working Democracy and hasn't had a coup for 100% of it's elected president's so far.

It probably also doesn't help that Egypt's military does things like massacre protesters supporting said deposed president.

If you think Turkey hasn't had a coup for its elected presidents you may have forgotten about the half-dozen they've had over the past few decades.


And don't forget the half-dozen or so attempted genocides on the Kurds, Armenians and anybody else who tried to go a different direction.
 
2013-07-31 12:48:25 PM
Everyone knows a Democracy isn't a true Democracy if the US doesn't like the outcome.
 
2013-07-31 01:15:38 PM

Matrix Flavored Wasabi: dehehn: It helps that Turkey has a working Democracy and hasn't had a coup for 100% of it's elected president's so far.

It probably also doesn't help that Egypt's military does things like massacre protesters supporting said deposed president.

That's not true at all, the military in Turkey is seen as a protector of the secular state and has engaged in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey#Republic_of_Turkey">numero us coups</a>. In Egypt they were likely hoping for the military to play a similar role, but it seems they are just trying to consolidate their power in the new situation.


I did say 100% of its elected presidents.
 
2013-07-31 03:45:38 PM

Rwa2play: Egypt = Early 20th Century Ireland who's waiting for their Michael Collins.


That's because they don't drink in Egypt.

/Ataturk is the better analogy
 
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